On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Melinda Shore melinda.sh...@gmail.comwrote:
On 8/6/13 11:58 AM, Joe Abley wrote:
For what it's worth (not much) I would miss the line at the mic.
There are useful conversations that happen within the line that I
think we would lose if the mic followed the
Just thinking out aloud
What about a web-cam (maybe a wireless one? Never tried to use
them...) right under the mic, so that it takes a picture of the badge
and shows it on the screen? Everyone (right?) in a meeting has a
badge wit his/her/its :) name and affiliation, so privacy concerns
On 08/07/2013 02:26 AM, Riccardo Bernardini wrote:
Just thinking out aloud
What about a web-cam (maybe a wireless one? Never tried to use
them...) right under the mic, so that it takes a picture of the badge
and shows it on the screen? Everyone (right?) in a meeting has a
badge wit
On Aug 6, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Martin Rex m...@sap.com wrote:
Maybe attaching such a sign to the MIC from the start could
additionally improve the situation.
There were signs like this attached to all the mics in all the rooms at this
IETF. I never looked at them, and I doubt anybody else did
Ted Lemon wrote:
Ironically, this IETF everyone who stayed at the Intercontinental was
walking around with an RFID key in their pocket the whole meeting.
Could there be a conflict if IETF badges also have RFID tags attached,
eg we get Room 1283 at the mic?
P.
Joe Abley wrote:
Or perhaps future IETFers.app releases could talk using bluetooth to a
transponder duct-taped to the mic stand and realise the same outcomes
(and if you don't like that, you can always touch no in the
appropriate place on your phone).
Instead of requiring additional hardware
On Aug 7, 2013, at 2:26 AM, Riccardo Bernardini framefri...@gmail.com wrote:
Just thinking out aloud
What about a web-cam (maybe a wireless one? Never tried to use
them...) right under the mic, so that it takes a picture of the badge
and shows it on the screen? Everyone (right?) in a
would this mandate wearing badges only in certain locations, e.g. over the left
breast?
/bill
On 6August2013Tuesday, at 23:26, Riccardo Bernardini wrote:
Just thinking out aloud
What about a web-cam (maybe a wireless one? Never tried to use
them...) right under the mic, so that it
On 8/5/2013 2:15 AM, Dan York wrote:
On the topic of badge-sensing at the mic, I seem to recall that we had this
working at an IETF sometime back in the RAI working groups. It was maybe 4 or 5
years ago and I think it may have been some student(s) under Henning
Schulzrinne at Columbia... but
On the topic of badge-sensing at the mic, I seem to recall that we had this
working at an IETF sometime back in the RAI working groups. It was maybe 4 or 5
years ago and I think it may have been some student(s) under Henning
Schulzrinne at Columbia... but I am not sure about that. I remember
Dave Crocker d...@dcrocker.net wrote:
An entirely different approach would be to have all speakers make a
'reservation' into a single meetecho (or whatever) online queue, and then
get
called in order, whether local or remote and independent of what
microphone
they are at.
On 2013-08-06, at 11:27, Dave Crocker d...@dcrocker.net wrote:
On 8/5/2013 2:15 AM, Dan York wrote:
[...] I remember that when you went to the mic you put your badge up to
this sensor and your name appeared in the jabber room.
... and the main screen in the room, if we're thinking about
On Aug 6, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Dave Crocker d...@dcrocker.net wrote:
It was an experiment. It was awkward and inaccurate. It also raised basic
privacy concerns, what with wearing something that can be tracked as you move
around.
Ironically, this IETF everyone who stayed at the
On Aug 6, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Dave Crocker d...@dcrocker.net wrote:
An entirely different approach would be to have all speakers make a
'reservation' into a single meetecho (or whatever) online queue, and then get
called in order, whether local or remote and independent of what microphone
Ironically, this IETF everyone who stayed at the Intercontinental was walking
around
with an RFID key in their pocket the whole meeting. How many of us put them
in
faraday cages?
I put all of my cards in a faraday cage, but perhaps that's just me,
and because I carry an RFID passport card.
On 06/08/13 18:31, Michael Richardson wrote:
Dave Crocker d...@dcrocker.net wrote:
An entirely different approach would be to have all speakers make
a
'reservation' into a single meetecho (or whatever) online queue,
and then get
called in order, whether local or remote and
On 8/6/2013 12:15 PM, Ted Lemon wrote:
On Aug 6, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Dave Crocker d...@dcrocker.net wrote:
An entirely different approach would be to have all speakers make a
'reservation' into a single meetecho (or whatever) online queue, and then get
called in order, whether local or remote
On 8/6/13 11:58 AM, Joe Abley wrote:
For what it's worth (not much) I would miss the line at the mic.
There are useful conversations that happen within the line that I
think we would lose if the mic followed the speaker, and I also think
that pipelining the people at the mic promotes more
On 2013-08-06, at 15:54, Aaron Yi DING aaron.d...@cl.cam.ac.uk wrote:
On 06/08/13 18:31, Michael Richardson wrote:
And move the microphones to the people, rather than the other way around.
This is indeed friendly, although standing up to walk a bit is also good, at
least f2f
On Aug 6, 2013, at 1:31 PM, Michael Richardson mcr+i...@sandelman.ca wrote:
We can easily have three or four microphones that can play leap-frog around
the room.
+1
Of course, then we need a facilitator to wrest it away from filibusterers or
simply a mechanism for the chairs to mute a mic.
On Aug 6, 2013, at 4:05 PM, Paul Aitken pait...@cisco.com wrote:
Could there be a conflict if IETF badges also have RFID tags attached, eg we
get Room 1283 at the mic?
No. Only known IDs would register. The RFID badge just has a number—it
doesn't say Room 1283.
[to no one in particular]
Uhhh... I can't tell if you folks are being serious about this idea or not, but
in case you are being serious... ISTM there's such a thing as too much
technology being a bad thing. If you think technical glitches now-and-then
cause issues with remote participants
On Aug 6, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Hadriel Kaplan hadriel.kap...@oracle.com wrote:
If the problem is we don't know who's speaking, then fix that problem. In
WGs I go to, both the WG chairs and the jabber scribes regularly yell NAME!
if someone forgets to say it. Unlike DNS Ops, this isn't rocket
On 08/06/2013 01:46 PM, Ted Lemon wrote:
On Aug 6, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Hadriel Kaplan hadriel.kap...@oracle.com wrote:
If the problem is we don't know who's speaking, then fix that problem. In WGs I go to,
both the WG chairs and the jabber scribes regularly yell NAME! if someone forgets to
say
On 08/06/2013 12:58 PM, Joe Abley wrote:
For what it's worth (not much) I would miss the line at the mic. There are
useful conversations that happen within the line that I think we would lose if
the mic followed the speaker
If the conversations are useful, should they not be happening as
On 08/06/2013 04:03 PM, Melinda Shore wrote:
On 8/6/13 11:58 AM, Joe Abley wrote:
For what it's worth (not much) I would miss the line at the mic.
There are useful conversations that happen within the line that I
think we would lose if the mic followed the speaker, and I also think
that
Doug Barton wrote:
Ted Lemon wrote:
M, Hadriel Kaplan hadriel.kap...@oracle.com wrote:
If the problem is we don't know who's speaking, then fix that problem.
This doesn't work very well. [...] nobody likes getting yelled at.
I certainly don't like _having_ to yell.
Then come up with an
On Aug 6, 2013, at 4:46 PM, Ted Lemon ted.le...@nominum.com wrote:
On Aug 6, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Hadriel Kaplan hadriel.kap...@oracle.com wrote:
If the problem is we don't know who's speaking, then fix that problem. In
WGs I go to, both the WG chairs and the jabber scribes regularly yell
Yes, a group from my lab did this, using short-range RFID. (The range was about
1-2 inches.) It required a bit of a setup which made it hard to replicate at
scale, but it worked reasonably well.
Privacy concerns are an issue, but you'd have to be very close to the person to
sense the card (and
Ironically, this IETF everyone who stayed at the Intercontinental was
walking around with an RFID key in their pocket the whole meeting.
How many of us put them in faraday cages?
one. i made it a habit
I thought the experiment in Hiroshima went well
count me in the privacy concerns camp
In article m2li4ew2nk.wl%ra...@psg.com you write:
Ironically, this IETF everyone who stayed at the Intercontinental was
walking around with an RFID key in their pocket the whole meeting.
How many of us put them in faraday cages?
one. i made it a habit
Two. I have a wallet with a built-in
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