Re: [Imports] Import DAE for Belgium

2018-03-08 Thread Remo Moro
Dear Openstreetmap community, time ago I discovered a friend who implementated a simple bot for telegram to find easily some AED ( *automated external defibrillator) **already present into OSM database. * *Then I realized that in Belgium that

Re: [Imports] Worldwide fuel stations import, 59k objects

2018-03-08 Thread James
why is everyone complaining about qgis, it opens in JOSM too with the geojson plugin. On Mar 8, 2018 2:55 PM, "Andy Townsend" wrote: > On 08/03/2018 17:31, Clifford Snow wrote: > > > Andy, > Ilya did provide a geojson [1] of the entire proposed import. If you look > back in

Re: [Imports] Worldwide fuel stations import, 59k objects

2018-03-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 8. Mar 2018, at 19:51, Christoph Hormann wrote: > > I understand your point but i have to strongly disagree here. IMO the > English language dominance is one of the biggest structural problems of > OSM in total and the biggest long term obstacle in

Re: [Imports] Worldwide fuel stations import, 59k objects

2018-03-08 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Ilya, Am 07.03.2018 um 18:27 schrieb Ilya Zverev: > Here is the GeoJSON file for the import (42 MB — don't try to open it in > geojson.io, use QGIS): https://transfer.sh/12oTYj/fuel.json Thank you for offering the GeoJSON file for download. I opened in QGIS but I am confused about the

Re: [Imports] Worldwide fuel stations import, 59k objects

2018-03-08 Thread Andy Townsend
On 08/03/2018 17:31, Clifford Snow wrote: Andy, Ilya did provide a geojson [1] of the entire proposed import. If you look back in the thread, IIya replied to my request. While large, it opens in QGIS nicely. [1] https://transfer.sh/12oTYj/fuel.json Indeed, but that's not really very

Re: [Imports] Worldwide fuel stations import, 59k objects

2018-03-08 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Thursday 08 March 2018, Frederik Ramm wrote: > [...] > > So even when we talk about desirable diversity goals, we have to > remain practical; the goal of "a working OSM" is more important than > the goal of "a diverse OSM" and diversity must take the back seat > when it would make working in

Re: [Imports] Worldwide fuel stations import, 59k objects

2018-03-08 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 8:51 AM, Andy Townsend wrote: > On 07/03/2018 17:07, Ilya Zverev wrote: > >> You can see the numbers and check a few stations yourself at the >> validation website (it will be very slow, please bear with it): >> >>

Re: [Imports] Worldwide fuel stations import, 59k objects

2018-03-08 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, the following might be a bit confusing to the casual reader because I'm arguing in favour of Ilya's import even though I'd really prefer us to have less imports, not more. But I think Ilya's proposal is being criticised for the wrong reasons. On 08.03.2018 17:07, Martin Koppenhoefer

Re: [Imports] Worldwide fuel stations import, 59k objects

2018-03-08 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/03/2018 17:07, Ilya Zverev wrote: You can see the numbers and check a few stations yourself at the validation website (it will be very slow, please bear with it): http://audit.osmz.ru/project/navads_fuel Unfortunately it's not possible to provide any useful feedback at the moment

Re: [Imports] Worldwide fuel stations import, 59k objects

2018-03-08 Thread Jason Remillard
Hi, I checked 20 or so stations in Massachusetts, they all look good. Jason On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:07 PM, Ilya Zverev wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Following the recent UK Shell stations import, I've got ahold of the > entire NavAds dataset. A major part of it are fuel

Re: [Imports] Worldwide fuel stations import, 59k objects

2018-03-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-03-08 15:03 GMT+01:00 Ilya Zverev : > Import Guidelines points to make me do tons of extra community work, > like finding communication channels for ~20 countries and convincing every > single mapper on these, in their local languages. maybe we can improve the

Re: [Imports] Worldwide fuel stations import, 59k objects

2018-03-08 Thread Blake Girardot
On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 4:38 PM, Levente Juhász wrote: > Thanks for the clarifications, Ilya. I started typing my response as I read > your original mail and gave my first impressions. Some questions got > answered after checking the data and reading through your entire mail

Re: [Imports] Worldwide fuel stations import, 59k objects

2018-03-08 Thread Levente Juhász
Thanks for the clarifications, Ilya. I started typing my response as I read your original mail and gave my first impressions. Some questions got answered after checking the data and reading through your entire mail but remained in my response. Anyway, 2nd round below: As for 0), I was thinking

Re: [Imports] Worldwide fuel stations import, 59k objects

2018-03-08 Thread Tommy Bruce
To be fair I think it is important that importa are a little difficult. The review process should take some legwork. And steering new mappers away from imports is a good idea. Imports can really screw up the map when they are done wrong. Making mappers create wiki pages and contact other

Re: [Imports] Worldwide fuel stations import, 59k objects

2018-03-08 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Thursday 08 March 2018, Ilya Zverev wrote: > It hurts me a bit that instead of clearly and unambigously saying "I > am against this and any other cross-country imports, regardless of > their nature and sources", you are pulling all the obscure Import > Guidelines points to make me do tons of

Re: [Imports] Worldwide fuel stations import, 59k objects

2018-03-08 Thread Ilya Zverev
Hi Levente, Thanks for reviewing the import. You have many valid points, which mostly come from the lack of documentation on my side. 0) Why do you think this import overrides any work? Adding new fuel stations certainly does not, so does adding phones and websites hurt the mappers? I'd be

Re: [Imports] Worldwide fuel stations import, 59k objects

2018-03-08 Thread Ilya Zverev
It hurts me a bit that instead of clearly and unambigously saying "I am against this and any other cross-country imports, regardless of their nature and sources", you are pulling all the obscure Import Guidelines points to make me do tons of extra community work, like finding communication

Re: [Imports] Worldwide fuel stations import, 59k objects

2018-03-08 Thread Mike N
On 3/8/2018 2:28 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Paying brands will be fully covered even in areas with no mapping activity, smaller independent stations and non-paying brands will only be covered in areas where a mapper happened to add them. In my US state at least, the import will add no new