AW: Suse + servlets + J2SE or J2EE?

2003-10-03 Thread Fuchur
EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Suse + servlets + J2SE or J2EE? Hi all! Well this might not be a true linux-problem, but anyway. To run tomcat and apache and making fancy servlets, does I need to install J2EE...? I run 1.4.2 J2SE and I cant find javax.servlet in JBuilder. Some small lines about how to ge

Suse + servlets + J2SE or J2EE?

2003-10-02 Thread Fredrik Petersson
Hi all! Well this might not be a true linux-problem, but anyway. To run tomcat and apache and making fancy servlets, does I need to install J2EE...? I run 1.4.2 J2SE and I cant find javax.servlet in JBuilder. Some small lines about how to get med started would be nice! Thanx! //Fredde

Re: Servlets...

2000-09-25 Thread Mark Ogden
Does anyone have experience of using Tomcat, Jakarta and JServ? How do these differ from Enhydra? -- Save the whales. Collect the whole set. [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pogden -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, emai

Re: Servlets...

2000-09-24 Thread Man Chi Ly
http://www.apl.jhu.edu/~hall/java/Servlet-Tutorial/ On Sun, 24 Sep 2000, Mark Ogden wrote: > Can anybody point me to any decent resources on the web to help me learn > more about Java Servlets? Also, are there any O'Reilly books on the > subject? > > Cheers in advance...

Re: Servlets...

2000-09-24 Thread Weiqi Gao
Mark Ogden wrote: > > Can anybody point me to any decent resources on the web to help me learn > more about Java Servlets? Also, are there any O'Reilly books on the > subject? O'Reilly has published a wonderful book on Java Servlets, "Java Servlet Programming" b

Servlets...

2000-09-24 Thread Mark Ogden
Can anybody point me to any decent resources on the web to help me learn more about Java Servlets? Also, are there any O'Reilly books on the subject? Cheers in advance... -- Save the whales. Collect the whole set. [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://homepage.ntlworld.com/p

Re: running servlets as different UID?!

2000-07-21 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
> the web server runs as UID "nobody", as well as jserv. i do not want to > change that; i only want one single servlet to have root privileges. It's not posible to do that. You might want to isolate the code needing those privileges and run it in a separate VM, accessed with RMI. Even so, the J

running servlets as different UID?!

2000-07-21 Thread karin
hi! i've come across a problem i cannot find anything about in the documentation. what i'd like to do is have a java servlet run under a different effective UID than "nobody", which is my default webserver user. i'm running apache jserv 1.2.2b (jdk 1.2.2) / apache 1.3.9 on a redhat linux 2.2

Re: applets, servlets (communication)

2000-07-07 Thread Sven . Daumann
 Marcos Lloret <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]07.07.2000 10:04 To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: bcc: Subject: applets, servlets (communication) hi,    i want to pass some parameters (strings, matrix, ...) into aservlet.    how can i do it?  I

applets, servlets (communication)

2000-07-07 Thread Marcos Lloret
hi, i want to pass some parameters (strings, matrix, ...) into a servlet. how can i do it? Is the same way to send parameters between applets? thanks in advance, marcos [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email t

Re: servlets sharing i/o file

2000-07-06 Thread Rousseau, John
On Thursday Jul 6, 2000, Marcos Lloret wrote: > hi, > > i have running a sevlets that reads from a file a number and it adds > one more. after changes it saves. > i want to use the same file from another servlet. any problem?? if > both servlets try to open and sav

servlets sharing i/o file

2000-07-06 Thread Marcos Lloret
hi, i have running a sevlets that reads from a file a number and it adds one more. after changes it saves. i want to use the same file from another servlet. any problem?? if both servlets try to open and save at the same time. file = 4455 servlet 1

[Fwd: Help to configure Servlets Programming Environment]

2000-06-04 Thread Walter G. da Cruz
e.org     Walter     "Mario Jaramillo R." wrote:     Greetings     I am a teacher in UNIVERSIDAD DE ANTIOQUIA in the arena of     Networks  and Programming , and I am very interested in to     begin to work with Servlets Programming.    

Re: Help to configure Servlets Programming Environment

2000-06-01 Thread Peter Pilgrim
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Greetings > > I am a teacher in UNIVERSIDAD DE ANTIOQUIA in the arena of > > Networks and Programming , and I am very interested in to > begin to work with Servlets Programming. > > At cu

Help to configure Servlets Programming Environment

2000-06-01 Thread Mario Jaramillo R.
Greetings I am a teacher in UNIVERSIDAD DE ANTIOQUIA in the arena of Networks and Programming , and I am very interested in to begin to work with Servlets Programming. At current time I dispose of the following environment in my PC: .LINUX

JDBC ODBC Servlets on JWS

1999-12-10 Thread Amit
i was attempting to use the JDBC ODBC driver along with Java Servlets operating on a Java Web Server. I have been getting an error when attempting to concurrently access the same servlet accessing a stored procedure in Oracle 8 which i have not been able to figure out. the details of the error

Re: Moving datbase access servlets built with Jbuilder3 to Linux/Apache(jserv)/JRE

1999-10-08 Thread Rachel Greenham
Ola Samuelson wrote: > > Hi! > I am moving servlets accessing databases(jdbc) to Linux plattform with > Apache(jserv) and I am unsure > whether this will work or not. > > I am using a lot of com.borland.dx classes as well as others. > Speaking generally: Will it work, p

Moving datbase access servlets built with Jbuilder3 to Linux/Apache(jserv)/JRE

1999-10-08 Thread Ola Samuelson
Hi! I am moving servlets accessing databases(jdbc) to Linux plattform with Apache(jserv) and I am unsure whether this will work or not. I am using a lot of com.borland.dx classes as well as others. Speaking generally: Will it work, provided that I also move required classes? I guess that my

Re: JNI & servlets

1999-09-17 Thread Juergen Kreileder
>>>>> Nathan Meyers writes: >> I have been trying how I can use JNI from within a servlet. I >> have tried the code that comes with Apache-jserv. Servlets >> compile and run without any problem. The problem is with javah. >> After a succes

Re: JNI & servlets

1999-09-17 Thread Nathan Meyers
devrim baris acar wrote: > > Hi, > I have been trying how I can use JNI from within a servlet. I have tried the > code that comes > with Apache-jserv. Servlets compile and run without any problem. The problem > is with javah. > After a successful compilation (i hope) w

JNI & servlets

1999-09-17 Thread devrim baris acar
Hi, I have been trying how I can use JNI from within a servlet. I have tried the code that comes with Apache-jserv. Servlets compile and run without any problem. The problem is with javah. After a successful compilation (i hope) when I try to make a C header file, it gives the error below. I

Re: Migrating Applets to Servlets

1999-07-26 Thread Daniel W. Dulitz x108
ble to use any classes from the java.awt or javax.swing packages. > That's basically what you have to do. That's not completely true. There are several commercial solutions that allow you to port some types of graphics-intensive applets to servlets with reduced effort. The basic i

Re: Migrating Applets to Servlets

1999-07-26 Thread Nathan Meyers
-0700 > > From: Nathan Meyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Matt Zagni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Migrating Applets to Servlets > > > > > > Matt Zagni wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > >

Re: Migrating Applets to Servlets

1999-07-26 Thread Matt Zagni
Jul 1999 08:46:37 -0700 > From: Nathan Meyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Matt Zagni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Migrating Applets to Servlets > > > Matt Zagni wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I think this has been as

Re: Migrating Applets to Servlets

1999-07-26 Thread Nathan Meyers
Matt Zagni wrote: > > Hi, > > I think this has been asked before perhaps many times > however I am unable to find it in the archive listing. > > Question. > > I have an application written in java applets. > I would like to migrate it to be a servlet based application > however I don't realy w

Migrating Applets to Servlets

1999-07-26 Thread Matt Zagni
Hi, I think this has been asked before perhaps many times however I am unable to find it in the archive listing. Question. I have an application written in java applets. I would like to migrate it to be a servlet based application however I don't realy wish to rewrite the original app again. I

Re: Servlets + JSP on linux (fwd)

1999-07-19 Thread Chris Woods
Tim Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If anyone has a tarball of jwdk 1.0 lying around anyplace, I'd VERY much > appreciate it if they could send it my way. Or, if anyone knows of an > obscure page on Sun's website that lists archived versions of their > products, I'd love to know about it.

RE: Servlets + JSP on linux (fwd)

1999-07-19 Thread Tim Reilly
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:43:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: John N. Alegre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Servlets + JSP on linux Unfortunately no, I have not gotten a response about this. I originally posted

Re: Java2D Servlets on Linux

1999-07-16 Thread dan
servlet", you need > > to set it for the Unix process under which the servlet is running - > > meaning the JVM. > > But isn't this a bit crap? I mean, does this mean that all java > processes running on a Linux box (whether they be servlets or > applications) have

Re: Java2D Servlets on Linux (Apache/JServ)

1999-07-16 Thread Robbie Baldock
Jacek Laskowski wrote: >> I'm uncertain if this helps, but give that a try: > >> wrapper.env=DISPLAY=:1 >Robbie> Tried it - it can't connect. Actually, I tell a lie - it is now connecting (on DISPLAY=:1)! (I wasn't waiting long enough for Apache and JServ to restart.) However, the servlet is

Re: Java2D Servlets on Linux (Apache/JServ)

1999-07-16 Thread Robbie Baldock
Ulli Kortenkamp wrote: > > > "Robbie" == Robbie Baldock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Robbie> Jacek Laskowski wrote: > >> I'm uncertain if this helps, but give that a try: > > >> wrapper.env=DISPLAY=:1 > > Robbie> Tried it - it can't connect. > > Could it be that the virt

Re: Java2D Servlets on Linux (Apache/JServ)

1999-07-16 Thread Ulli Kortenkamp
> "Robbie" == Robbie Baldock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Robbie> Jacek Laskowski wrote: >> I'm uncertain if this helps, but give that a try: > >> wrapper.env=DISPLAY=:1 Robbie> Tried it - it can't connect. Could it be that the virtual framebuffer denies the permission to the

Re: Java2D Servlets on Linux (Apache/JServ)

1999-07-16 Thread Robbie Baldock
Jacek Laskowski wrote: > I'm uncertain if this helps, but give that a try: > wrapper.env=DISPLAY=:1 Tried it - it can't connect. Robbie -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: Java2D Servlets on Linux (Apache/JServ)

1999-07-16 Thread Jacek Laskowski
Robbie Baldock wrote: > [...] > by putting something like this: > > wrapper.env=DISPLAY=localhost:1.1 > > in the jserv.properties file. > > However... I'm now getting this error message: > > java.lang.InternalError: Can't connect to X11 window server using > 'localhost:1.1' as the value of th

Re: Java2D Servlets on Linux (Apache/JServ)

1999-07-16 Thread Robbie Baldock
After the various helpful suggestions on how to proceeed with my GIF generating servlet, I've discovered that I can prevent the worrying error message I was getting: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: sun/awt/X11GraphicsEnvironment at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) by putting something lik

Re: Java2D Servlets on Linux

1999-07-15 Thread Chris Abbey
>> >> java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: sun/awt/X11GraphicsEnvironment >> >> at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) >> > You're right, that's not the message you'd see with an unset DISPLAY >> > variable. That class should be in rt.jar... I wonder why you're not >> > finding it. >> >> Mmm indee

Re: Java2D Servlets on Linux

1999-07-15 Thread Nathan Meyers
he servlet", you need > > to set it for the Unix process under which the servlet is running - > > meaning the JVM. > > But isn't this a bit crap? I mean, does this mean that all java > processes running on a Linux box (whether they be servlets or > applications)

Re: Java2D Servlets on Linux

1999-07-15 Thread Robbie Baldock
ss under which the servlet is running - > meaning the JVM. But isn't this a bit crap? I mean, does this mean that all java processes running on a Linux box (whether they be servlets or applications) have to share the same DISPLAY settings?! >> java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: sun/awt/X1

Servlets + JSP on linux

1999-07-15 Thread Tim Reilly
Can someone please give me a hand here? I need (1) to get a servlet to pass some data to a JSP page via a Bean, and then (2) "hit" that JSP page to get back a nicely formatted HTML page to send back to the user. To accomplish this, I am using the following tools: Blackdown JDK 1.1.7 v3 Apach

Re: Java2D Servlets on Linux

1999-07-15 Thread Nathan Meyers
Robbie Baldock wrote: > > I'm still trying to get Java2D to work on Linux. My latest strategy is > to run my GIF generation program as a servlet. > > What I'm doing is firing up Xvfb to simulate an X environment but then > of course I need to set the DISPLAY environment variable for the servlet

Java2D Servlets on Linux

1999-07-15 Thread Gregory Steuck
t;export DISPLAY"); Robbie> Which I suspect is the wrong way to do it as this should be Robbie> done before the servlet starts. So the question is, how do Robbie> I set this environment variable just for the servlet? What you need to do is set DISPLAY variable for JVM

Java2D Servlets on Linux

1999-07-15 Thread Robbie Baldock
I'm still trying to get Java2D to work on Linux. My latest strategy is to run my GIF generation program as a servlet. What I'm doing is firing up Xvfb to simulate an X environment but then of course I need to set the DISPLAY environment variable for the servlet and I'm unclear as to how I shou

Re: [Java Servlets: getting started on Linux]

1999-07-07 Thread Chris Woods
Hendrik Schreiber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That's nice to hear. Anyway, if you want to use your current copy of the server and >servlets > you might consider buying a plugin such as JRun by Live Software > (http://www.livesoftware.com/) or ServletExec

Re: [Java Servlets: getting started on Linux]

1999-07-07 Thread Hendrik Schreiber
using > JRun on my web site. > > Thanks, > > Rob > > > -Original Message- > > From: Hendrik Schreiber [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 4:39 AM > > To: Yuwin Fei; Blackdown > > Subject: Re

RE: [Java Servlets: getting started on Linux]

1999-07-07 Thread Schlackman, Robert (IBK-NY)
07, 1999 4:39 AM > To: Yuwin Fei; Blackdown > Subject: Re: [Java Servlets: getting started on Linux] > > Yuwin Fei wrote: > > >Secondly, Netscape is coming up with a new Enterprise Server > supporting the > > latest servlets (JSDK2.1). > > That&#x

Re: [Java Servlets: getting started on Linux]

1999-07-07 Thread Hendrik Schreiber
Yuwin Fei wrote: >Secondly, Netscape is coming up with a new Enterprise Server supporting the > latest servlets (JSDK2.1). That's nice to hear. Anyway, if you want to use your current copy of the server and servlets you might consider buying a plugin such as JRun by Live Sof

Re: [Java Servlets: getting started on Linux]

1999-07-06 Thread Nick Lawson
ity to a .java source is simply placing the jsdk.jar in > the CLASSPATH, right? Documentation says that javac compiles servlets, > applets, scriptlets no sweat. I have no fancy Borland or MS tools. > > But other documentation says it is included in the JDK v2.0 > ..problem is t

Re: [Java Servlets: getting started on Linux]

1999-07-06 Thread Yuwin Fei
I'll answer the ones that I can: First, you can't find servlet classes in your rcompile. Set your CLASSPATH like this: set CLASSPATH=..://servlet.jar Secondly, Netscape is coming up with a new Enterprise Server supporting the latest servlets (JSDK2.1). -- Yueyin

Java Servlets: getting started on Linux

1999-07-05 Thread Pat Trainor
I am looking for someone who has actually gotten servlets to compile on a libc5 slackware installation. I have not made the jump to 6, as it is not coupled with the migration of all supporting libraries. I develop on my laptop(Toshiba Tecra with crappy winmodem I can't use, yet?):

Re:RE: Newbie question.... Servlets on Linux

1999-06-05 Thread Steve Nguyen
Our web-mail interface engine was written in servlets and is supporting hundreds of concurrent users with ease. A showcase is running on Linux 5.2 with Apache/JServ 1.0b5. It's good combination for good. Steve Nguyen KBMail Software & Service Provider http://www.kbmail.com

RE: Newbie question.... Servlets on Linux

1999-06-05 Thread Marcel Ruff
> I'd also like to see comments from those who have installed/run all > of the servlet stuff or have atempted it. > > Many thanks in advance !! > > Phil Butler > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Servlets are running without any problems on Linux. The combination apache/jserv is very

Re: Servlets and Such

1999-05-30 Thread John N. Alegre
On 14-May-99 Jeff Galyan wrote: > > The book "Core Java WebServer" has just over half of its pages dedicated > to the Servlet API. > What is the exact Title, Author, Publisher you are refereing to here? Searching Amazon.com for "Core Java WebServer" yeilded nada. john ---

RH5.2 - Apache1.3.6 - servlets

1999-05-21 Thread bill . wandrack
Hello, I am running RH5.2 with jdk 1.1.7v3 and Apache. I have several servlets running, and one of them needs to go out and make a pop3 connection to a mail server. When it attempts this I get the following error: [21/05/1999 08:33:25 EDT]: java.net.SocketException: errno: 4, error: Interrupted

Re: Servlets and Such

1999-05-14 Thread Jeff Galyan
"Robert H. Thompson" wrote: > > Anybody out there can suggest a good servlet tutorial. I've just > downloaded Sun's Java Web Server and I am writting some servlets > using Blackdown's java1.2 port. I know this is a little off topic > but I'd appr

Re: Servlets and Such

1999-05-14 Thread Dimitris Vyzovitis
"Robert H. Thompson" wrote: > Anybody out there can suggest a good servlet tutorial. I've just > downloaded Sun's Java Web Server and I am writting some servlets > using Blackdown's java1.2 port. I know this is a little off topic > but I'd appreci

Servlets and Such

1999-05-13 Thread Robert H. Thompson
Anybody out there can suggest a good servlet tutorial. I've just downloaded Sun's Java Web Server and I am writting some servlets using Blackdown's java1.2 port. I know this is a little off topic but I'd appreciate any references I can get. The Java Web Server is so new the

Re: jdk servlets on Linux

1999-04-16 Thread Kowshik Podder
Camilo Wilson wrote: > > Using Apache Jserv for servlets does work, but it requires a good dose > of masochism. Much, much easier is to use the Java Web Server from Sun > (free evaluation, under $300), Solaris version. About 1/10 the > configuration time, in my experience. You wil

Re: jdk servlets on Linux

1999-04-14 Thread Oliver Fels
> I don't think I'm a masochist, but I found no difficulty in installing > Jserv for Apache. I've never used Sun's server so I can't comment on > relative speed or simplicity, but I guess I saved myself $300 at least... Same here, based on my experience. In most cases, there are requirements whic

Re: jdk servlets on Linux

1999-04-14 Thread Michael Lorton
On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Matt Duckham wrote: > Camilo Wilson wrote: > > > > Using Apache Jserv for servlets does work, but it requires a good dose > > of masochism. Much, much easier is to use the Java Web Server from Sun > I don't think I'm a masochist, but I

Re: jdk servlets on Linux

1999-04-14 Thread Matt Duckham
Camilo Wilson wrote: > > Using Apache Jserv for servlets does work, but it requires a good dose > of masochism. Much, much easier is to use the Java Web Server from Sun > (free evaluation, under $300), Solaris version. About 1/10 the > configuration time, in my experience. You wil

Re: jdk servlets on Linux

1999-04-14 Thread Camilo Wilson
Using Apache Jserv for servlets does work, but it requires a good dose of masochism. Much, much easier is to use the Java Web Server from Sun (free evaluation, under $300), Solaris version. About 1/10 the configuration time, in my experience. You will need the JSDK classes from Sun too. We have

Re: jdk servlets on Linux

1999-04-13 Thread Kowshik Podder
Steven Rock wrote: > Just made the leap from wintel to Lunix. I would like to use java > servlets instead of dusting off my Perl-CGI books. Has it been ported to > Linux yet? Use the Apache Jserv - a module you can compile for use as a servlet engine with Apache. Check out java.apache.o

Re: jdk servlets available on Linux

1999-04-12 Thread Mario Camou
Steve, Check out http://java.apache.org/ -Mario. Steven Rock wrote: > > Just made the leap from wintel to Lunix. I would like to use java > servlets instead of dusting off my Perl-CGI books. Has it been ported to > Linux yet?

jdk servlets available on Linux

1999-04-12 Thread Steven Rock
Just made the leap from wintel to Lunix. I would like to use java servlets instead of dusting off my Perl-CGI books. Has it been ported to Linux yet? -Steve __ Steven W. Rock Mokonet, Inc. Internet Technology Consulting 212.269.1565

Apache 1.3.3 & JServ(soporte para servlets de Java)

1999-03-24 Thread Marcos Mart\mnez
Si alguien ha tenido que instalar Apache 1.3, así como la extensión para soportar los famosos Servlets (JServ 1.0b3), agradecería un montón que me guiara en dicho proceso. Y si no, ¿sabe alguien que herramientas puedo utilizar para montar un servidor para Linux con soporte para los famosos

Servlets Mapping

1999-03-09 Thread Ajay Vij
Hi Folks I am writing Servlets using JRun Pro 2.3 and Apache 1.3. I have a problem in placing the Servlets Source files in different dir other than the JRun Pro default Servlets dir. I even tried doing the same with the Java Web Server 1.1.3. But could not map the Servlets dir to a different dir

Re: JavaLinux for servlets [off-topic]

1999-02-18 Thread vextor
>The comments regarding applets have nothing to do with C or JNI. Again I'm >trying to say that applets do not make sense in the context of HTML. It's >not Java's fault, it's just how things are. I don't see how this is true. HTTP is supposed to be a stateless, object- oriented protocol which

RE: JavaLinux for servlets, who to make templates?

1999-02-18 Thread Yuri Saveliev
Message- > From: Marcel Ruff [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, 17 February 1999 19:45 > To: Robert Ritchy; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: JavaLinux for servlets, who to make templates? > > Hi > > you wrote about servlets and html-templates. > What p

Re: JavaLinux for servlets (die die die)

1999-02-18 Thread Augusto Sellhorn
> > 4. Linux evangelists : Linux is the future. Java is a fad that will > >probably be overtaken by something else eventually. Think that Java > >does not have the best licensing model (it's not GPL). Java is slow > >because Perl kicks ass in CGI (have never hear

Re: JavaLinux for servlets [off-topic]

1999-02-18 Thread wyrd
Chris Huebsch wrote: > AFAIK unix doesn't support real threads. Are you sure you want to make such a generalization about Unix? I've got a couple of books that cover threads programming on Solaris. Is there something "unreal" about Solaris ( or UnixWare ) threads? -- wYRd.:|:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: JavaLinux for servlets

1999-02-17 Thread Raju Karia
My original posting (entitled Java-linux enthusiasts) was about categorizing Java developers as belonging to one or more groups of users of particular platforms. I mentioned servlets in passing. I had no intention of starting a debate on servlets. Now, why don't we stop bickering about wh

Re: JavaLinux for servlets

1999-02-17 Thread John Goerzen
uture. Java is a fad that will >probably be overtaken by something else eventually. Think that Java >does not have the best licensing model (it's not GPL). Java is slow >because Perl kicks ass in CGI (have never heard of servlets). Can't >understand why we

RE: JavaLinux for servlets

1999-02-17 Thread Steve Byrne
esday, February 17, 1999 11:09 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: JavaLinux for servlets > > > On Wed, Feb 17, 1999 at 01:17:43AM -0800, Steve Byrne wrote: > > > >

Re: NO MORE--JavaLinux for servlets

1999-02-17 Thread Brett W. McCoy
On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, Jason Hoffman wrote: > PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE! Take this offline... This list has a SPECIFIC > purpose, and this discussion is NOT it. Please reply directly to the sender, > AND NOT THE LIST. On the other hand, it's breathed some life into the list and distracted us fr

Re: JavaLinux for servlets [off-topic]

1999-02-17 Thread Brett W. McCoy
On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Nathan Meyers wrote: > Whoa... how did this discussion suddenly become religious? Whenever you mention a foreign language in a mailing list devoted to a certain language, it *always* becomes religious. Brett W. McCoy http:/

RE: JavaLinux for servlets

1999-02-17 Thread Lasorsa, Vince
PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: JavaLinux for servlets On Wed, Feb 17, 1999 at 01:17:43AM -0800, Steve Byrne wrote: > > But what techincal advantage do they really give? Java is slower, uses more > > system resources, etc. > >

Re: NO MORE--JavaLinux for servlets

1999-02-17 Thread John Goerzen
Shall we all send unsubscribe requests and 1.2 questions instead? :-) (Gotta keep the traffic up somehow, you know) Anyway, *cough* caps lock... On Wed, Feb 17, 1999 at 01:25:43PM -0600, Jason Hoffman wrote: > PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE! Take this offline... This list has a SPECIFIC > purpos

Re: JavaLinux for servlets

1999-02-17 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Feb 17, 1999 at 12:39:57PM -0700, Jeff Galyan wrote: > Pardon me, but you appear to be the ONLY person actually using mod_perl > or FastCGI in a production environment. I know of multiple organizations using mod_perl in a production environment. If memory serves, hotmail is one, but th

Re: JavaLinux for servlets

1999-02-17 Thread Jeff Galyan
Pardon me, but you appear to be the ONLY person actually using mod_perl or FastCGI in a production environment. As for my assumptions being "flawed", that would mean that the developers at Java Software (formerly JavaSoft) don't know what they're talking about either, nor do the course developer

Re: JavaLinux for servlets

1999-02-17 Thread Tom Jenkins
> Okay, time for me to step into the fray. > > Here's how this works: > No, that is how one way works... If you run Apache using either mod_perl, pyapache(aka mod_python) or FastCGI then the server does NOT spawn a new process for the cgi script. It passes the request to the cgi script *which

NO MORE--JavaLinux for servlets

1999-02-17 Thread Jason Hoffman
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE! Take this offline... This list has a SPECIFIC purpose, and this discussion is NOT it. Please reply directly to the sender, AND NOT THE LIST. PLEASE, JOHN! PLEASE, EVERYONE ELSE! Thank You!

Re: JavaLinux for servlets

1999-02-17 Thread John Goerzen
OK, this is about the 6th or 7th time I've said this and STILL people are ignoring it. Your whole argument is based on a flawed premise: that with CGI, a new process must be started for each request. This is plain and simply NOT correct. I have pointed this out time and time again. Any benchma

Re: JavaLinux for servlets

1999-02-17 Thread Ryan Sutter
Swing? Fine. Don't use it. However, don't just rip on it because you think it's junk without something to back it up other than "it's too slow". I'm working for a company in the final stages of a sizable commercial Java/Swing development project. We use Ja

Re: JavaLinux for servlets

1999-02-17 Thread Jeff Galyan
ng*, which then passes the servlet info to the JVM *which is already running* and the JVM spawns a Java thread on top of itself to handle the servlet request. This all happens in very short order. If I recall correctly, an ISP in San Francisco did some tests of Perl CGIs and Java servlets side-by-

Re: JavaLinux for servlets [off-topic]

1999-02-17 Thread Matthew Hunter
chanism to determine when to have a service visit? Or even one that allows you to talk to the tech support guy (assuming you have sound set up properly, a microphone, etc) and gives him the chance to poke around your system looking for the problem? There are uses for applets, believe me. R

Re: JavaLinux for servlets

1999-02-17 Thread Jan-Henrik Haukeland
John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >* > I have explained the areas in which I feel Java has an advantage > over other languages -- for example, development of large-scale > client GUIs. Yeah and you're wrong. Java sucks big time as a GUI frontend. (Just check out a fairly large system like

Re: JavaLinux for servlets [off-topic]

1999-02-17 Thread John Goerzen
You are correct, Alex. Both Solaris and Linux support "real" threads, as do several other Unix OSs. We can go into detail if need be, but I hope we can spare the list that :-) On Wed, Feb 17, 1999 at 01:32:38PM +0300, Alex Romadinoff wrote: > >AFAIK unix doesn't support real threads. For new r

Re: JavaLinux for servlets [off-topic]

1999-02-17 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Feb 17, 1999 at 09:51:51AM +0100, Chris Huebsch wrote: > The first is a "non-java-at-all" Server. It has to create a new process > when a request arives. Where? The system is almost at the limit? It is NO. I keep saying this and apparently nobody is listening. Let me give you URLs then

Re: JavaLinux for servlets

1999-02-17 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Feb 17, 1999 at 01:17:43AM -0800, Steve Byrne wrote: > > But what techincal advantage do they really give? Java is slower, uses more > > system resources, etc. > > John, if you don't like Java, can you please tell us why you feel it's > necessary to clog this mailing list with your an

Re: JavaLinux for servlets [off-topic]

1999-02-17 Thread Christopher Rowan
Wht? Alex Romadinoff wrote: > > >AFAIK unix doesn't support real threads. For new requests a new instance > > ? > >of the CGI is created with fork() or something like that? Now imagine a > >server with a load

Re: JavaLinux for servlets [off-topic]

1999-02-17 Thread Alex Romadinoff
>AFAIK unix doesn't support real threads. For new requests a new instance ? >of the CGI is created with fork() or something like that? Now imagine a >server with a load around 99%. Are you sure ? What about 'clone

Re: JavaLinux for servlets

1999-02-17 Thread Steve Byrne
John Goerzen writes: > On Tue, Feb 16, 1999 at 04:34:03PM -0800, Kevin Hester wrote: > > > > > > I would certainly not use Java for CGI. libapache-mod-perl, FastCGI, etc. > > if necessary. > > > > I'd definitely encourage anyone to use s

Re: JavaLinux for servlets [off-topic]

1999-02-17 Thread Chris Huebsch
Hello, let me contribute a word or two to this discussion... John Goerzen wrote: > > This is not really the point. The point is that for a heavily-loaded > server, even a small difference in performance can make a tremendous > difference in the system -- possibly the difference between running

Re: JavaLinux for servlets, who to make templates?

1999-02-17 Thread Marcel Ruff
Hi you wrote about servlets and html-templates. What possibilities are there to make html-templates and where is there a good parser to build the final html file from the template? thanks, Marcel -- Marcel Ruff [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lake.de/home/lake/swand/

Re: JavaLinux for servlets

1999-02-17 Thread John Goerzen
On Tue, Feb 16, 1999 at 06:10:02PM -0700, Robert Ritchy wrote: > In addition to the above - portability. I just finished a complete a servlet > solution for a BIG company on my dinky pentium 75 linux laptop (apache/jrun). The > installation on their site (Solaris/NES/JRun Pro) was MINIMAL with

Re: JavaLinux for servlets [off-topic]

1999-02-17 Thread Nathan Meyers
Whoa... how did this discussion suddenly become religious? I daresay the readership of this group is here because they see a future for Java beyond its current problems. As a fan of both Java and Perl, I have absolutely no need to resolve the which-is-faster-and-better question once and for all;

Re: JavaLinux for servlets [off-topic]

1999-02-16 Thread John Goerzen
difference in the system -- possibly the difference between running well and not running at all. > less than Perl development time? For substantial apps, we have always > found that to be the case. Are Java servlets more maintainable over I do not disagree that Java's strong typing is

Re: JavaLinux for servlets

1999-02-16 Thread John Goerzen
On Tue, Feb 16, 1999 at 07:49:18PM -0500, David Harvill wrote: > Overall, the servlets do not use more system resources. CGI has to spawn > an entire new process (with full memory overhead) for each incoming > request. Java starts up the process (and memory overhead) only once, and

Re: JavaLinux for servlets

1999-02-16 Thread Robert Ritchy
David Harvill wrote: > Overall, the servlets do not use more system resources. CGI has to spawn > an entire new process (with full memory overhead) for each incoming > request. Java starts up the process (and memory overhead) only once, and > simply gives out a new Thread t

Re: JavaLinux for servlets [off-topic]

1999-02-16 Thread Daniel W. Dulitz x108
Kevin Hester writes: > John Goerzen writes: > > I would certainly not use Java for CGI. libapache-mod-perl, FastCGI, etc. > > if necessary. > > I'd definitely encourage anyone to use servlets with wild abandon. So easy > and clean - I haven't had to write CGI

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