Re: [JAWS-Users] skype
Hello David, You don't have to remove earlier versions and you can even update from within your presently installed skype's update menu option. The advantage not to uninstall previous version first, is that all your present skype settings, or almost all, are transferred as is and you don't have to re-enter your profile. However, I still find 3.8 less cumbersome to use than version 4, even with the scripts and scripts are also out for 4.1, but the last time I heard, 4.1 was still a beta, although improved on version 4. On the skype topic, can someone please indicate, using jaws 9 and/or 10, how to hide call and chat history from showing and also how to enable it when necessary? I preferably want to do this in version 3.8, but tips to accomplish it in version 4 would also be welcome. Thanks and regards Riana -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ibby Karbhari Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] skype That is correct it works for me all the time. Kindest Regards, Ibby Karbhari - The Skype lounge moderator To Join: If you know anyone that would like to become a member of this virtual Skype lounge, tell them to send a blank message to: theskypevirtuallounge-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.uk Skype Name: IbbyKar Email: ib...@mmt.demon.co.uk -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: 15 July 2009 17:39 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] skype Refresh my memory please somebody, it seems to me that there is no need to remove an earlier version of skype before installing a new version. Is this correct? David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com VIP Conduit Tech Support www.vipconduit.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ NB: This email and its contents are subject to our email legal notice which can be viewed at http://www.doj.gov.za/about_web/disclaimer.htm If you are unable to access the Disclaimer, send an email request for the disclaimer to webmas...@justice.gov.za and we will send you a copy of the Disclaimer. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] skype
I can confirm that skype 4.1 is out of beta and has been officially released. Aiden - Original Message - From: Van Der Walt Riana rivanderw...@justice.gov.za To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] skype Hello David, You don't have to remove earlier versions and you can even update from within your presently installed skype's update menu option. The advantage not to uninstall previous version first, is that all your present skype settings, or almost all, are transferred as is and you don't have to re-enter your profile. However, I still find 3.8 less cumbersome to use than version 4, even with the scripts and scripts are also out for 4.1, but the last time I heard, 4.1 was still a beta, although improved on version 4. On the skype topic, can someone please indicate, using jaws 9 and/or 10, how to hide call and chat history from showing and also how to enable it when necessary? I preferably want to do this in version 3.8, but tips to accomplish it in version 4 would also be welcome. Thanks and regards Riana -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ibby Karbhari Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] skype That is correct it works for me all the time. Kindest Regards, Ibby Karbhari - The Skype lounge moderator To Join: If you know anyone that would like to become a member of this virtual Skype lounge, tell them to send a blank message to: theskypevirtuallounge-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.uk Skype Name: IbbyKar Email: ib...@mmt.demon.co.uk -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: 15 July 2009 17:39 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] skype Refresh my memory please somebody, it seems to me that there is no need to remove an earlier version of skype before installing a new version. Is this correct? David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com VIP Conduit Tech Support www.vipconduit.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ NB: This email and its contents are subject to our email legal notice which can be viewed at http://www.doj.gov.za/about_web/disclaimer.htm If you are unable to access the Disclaimer, send an email request for the disclaimer to webmas...@justice.gov.za and we will send you a copy of the Disclaimer. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] how do I turn off type over mode in word 2003
Hi Barry, thanks for that. I had forgotten about that command. Rebooting this morning, seemed to fix the problem. But at least now, I have an idea how on Earth I got myself into that situation in the first place smile. Best wishes Jason - Original Message - From: Barry G lis...@possable.co.uk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:31 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how do I turn off type over mode in word 2003 You probably hit the control/alt key immediately to the right of the space bar at the same time as the letter I. ctrl/alt + I toggles between insert and overtype modes so hitting the same key combination should switch you back. Jaws normally announces this change, although it might not in some verbosity settings. Hope that helps all the best, Barry G - Original Message - From: jason smith thisi...@picknowl.com.au To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 5:12 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] how do I turn off type over mode in word 2003 Hi list, today I was typing up something in MS word 2003. After having been typing for a while, I had something odd happen. Instead of any texts I began typing, being inserted infront of the character I was typing at. It deleted that character and replaced it with the one I just typed. Years ago, this used to be referred to as type over mode. I didn't even know it still existed. I have no idea how I turned it on. But how do I turn it off, and get it back to inserting the character I type, rather than typing over any existing text? I am using XP home, Jaws 10 and Ms word 2003 like I said. Thanks Jason For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4246 (20090715) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4246 (20090715) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4247 (20090715) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 7 upgrade purchase
You can install the upgrade over XP so long as the copy of XP is genuine. This won't apply for the EU since their copies will have an E at the end, meaning no internet browser, so the option to upgrade will be disabled in all cases. In all cases! You'll have to do a clean install since there's no upgrade path from XP. -- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 - Original Message - From: Leonard Morris lmorris1...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:26 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 7 upgrade purchase If I order and purchase the microsoft windows 7 upgrade whne it comes out in October, do I have to install Vista first or can I install it over Xp? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 7 upgrade purchase
hi Chris. question, do i still have to bye windows 7 if i have a genuine vista key and all? Or could i just upgrade? and what do i do with my vista? -- From: Chris Hallsworth christopher...@googlemail.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:18 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 7 upgrade purchase You can install the upgrade over XP so long as the copy of XP is genuine. This won't apply for the EU since their copies will have an E at the end, meaning no internet browser, so the option to upgrade will be disabled in all cases. In all cases! You'll have to do a clean install since there's no upgrade path from XP. -- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 - Original Message - From: Leonard Morris lmorris1...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:26 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 7 upgrade purchase If I order and purchase the microsoft windows 7 upgrade whne it comes out in October, do I have to install Vista first or can I install it over Xp? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ David La Caille For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] skype
It's a lot of car to drive version 4.1. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com VIP Conduit Tech Support www.vipconduit.com - Original Message - From: Van Der Walt Riana rivanderw...@justice.gov.za To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:38 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] skype Hello David, You don't have to remove earlier versions and you can even update from within your presently installed skype's update menu option. The advantage not to uninstall previous version first, is that all your present skype settings, or almost all, are transferred as is and you don't have to re-enter your profile. However, I still find 3.8 less cumbersome to use than version 4, even with the scripts and scripts are also out for 4.1, but the last time I heard, 4.1 was still a beta, although improved on version 4. On the skype topic, can someone please indicate, using jaws 9 and/or 10, how to hide call and chat history from showing and also how to enable it when necessary? I preferably want to do this in version 3.8, but tips to accomplish it in version 4 would also be welcome. Thanks and regards Riana -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ibby Karbhari Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] skype That is correct it works for me all the time. Kindest Regards, Ibby Karbhari - The Skype lounge moderator To Join: If you know anyone that would like to become a member of this virtual Skype lounge, tell them to send a blank message to: theskypevirtuallounge-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.uk Skype Name: IbbyKar Email: ib...@mmt.demon.co.uk -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: 15 July 2009 17:39 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] skype Refresh my memory please somebody, it seems to me that there is no need to remove an earlier version of skype before installing a new version. Is this correct? David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com VIP Conduit Tech Support www.vipconduit.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ NB: This email and its contents are subject to our email legal notice which can be viewed at http://www.doj.gov.za/about_web/disclaimer.htm If you are unable to access the Disclaimer, send an email request for the disclaimer to webmas...@justice.gov.za and we will send you a copy of the Disclaimer. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Vista
Can anyone tell me why I should upgrade to Vista from XPPro? What are advantages, enhanced features, ETC. Thanks, Stewart Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista
Just my opinion of course, don't do it. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com VIP Conduit Tech Support www.vipconduit.com - Original Message - From: Stewart A Overbey Jr. saover...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:00 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vista Can anyone tell me why I should upgrade to Vista from XPPro? What are advantages, enhanced features, ETC. Thanks, Stewart Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] internet radio and music web sites
Hi Winamp has independent volume control. Marsha For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Jaws 4.1
Hi Could someone tell me what the advantages of Skype 4.1 might be? Which Jaws version works best with Skype? Marsha For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista
in my case i've got vista here . but wish i was on xp but i'm hoping to upgrade to windows 7 if i can. i not too impressed with vista chat soon hannah -- Hannah E-mail hannahday1...@googlemail.com Msn hannahday1...@hotmail.co.uk Skype hannahday - Original Message - From: Stewart A Overbey Jr. saover...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:00 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vista Can anyone tell me why I should upgrade to Vista from XPPro? What are advantages, enhanced features, ETC. Thanks, Stewart Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista
Thanks David, those were my thoughts, but, wanted to see if there were any proponents of vista Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:13 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista Just my opinion of course, don't do it. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com VIP Conduit Tech Support www.vipconduit.com - Original Message - From: Stewart A Overbey Jr. saover...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:00 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vista Can anyone tell me why I should upgrade to Vista from XPPro? What are advantages, enhanced features, ETC. Thanks, Stewart Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista
Thanks so much for your input. Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Hannah Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista in my case i've got vista here . but wish i was on xp but i'm hoping to upgrade to windows 7 if i can. i not too impressed with vista chat soon hannah -- Hannah E-mail hannahday1...@googlemail.com Msn hannahday1...@hotmail.co.uk Skype hannahday - Original Message - From: Stewart A Overbey Jr. saover...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:00 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vista Can anyone tell me why I should upgrade to Vista from XPPro? What are advantages, enhanced features, ETC. Thanks, Stewart Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] which Microsoft suites are most Jaws accessible?
I have worked with Microsoft Word extensively. Word 2007 has a learning curve, but is very accessible with JAWS, especially if you are using JAWS 10. I am very pleased with it, and did not find the new style of menus very difficult to learn. Blessings, Tom Get your dream car or truck. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTLa8wB1yBRszjckFiRyKrWnrBfqYhXbH4lWutleEG1k34MmILznHa/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] folder options in vista
Thanks very much. control A works well. - Original Message - From: Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:54 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] folder options in vista Hello John, For some reason, Microsoft didn't include showing total size of a folder on the status bar in Vista like it was shown in XP. There are a couple things you can do. Perhaps the easiest is to select all while in the list of files and then read the status bar. It is an extra step and you have to be careful of course when selecting all files, but the status bar does give total folder size when you select all files, which you can do with CTRL+A. The other thing that can be done is to turn on the mouse tips in folder options. You can do this by opening the control panel and typing in folder options in the search box (without the quotes). Use tab key until you find the folder options choice and press enter key. Move to the view page of the dialog by using CTRL+Tab key. Use tab key into the list of options. use down arrow in the list to the display file size information in folder tips choice and make sure it is checked. use spacebar to check it if it isn't checked and then OK out of dialogs. While in the music folder bring up the JAWS configuration manager by using JAWS key with 6. Go into settings menu by using Alt+S and arrow down to verbosity settings. Press enter key to open the verbosity settings. Tab to the beginner settings and press enter key. In the list of options use end key to move to the bottom of the list. Use spacebar on the choice for announcing tool tips. Tab to and use apply or OK button until out of the dialog box. Use CTRL+S to save changes. When this is done you will hear the tool tips as you move over subfolders in the music folder. You will need to use backspace and arrow up or down across the music folder to hear its size. However, when you open the music folder you should hear folder size for the subfolders and files as you move up and down the list with arrow keys. Sometimes after moving on to an item with the arrow keys there is a slight delay until the tooltip is spoken. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net - Original Message - From: john frei...@295.ca To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:57 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] folder options in vista A few months ago I switched from XP to Vista, and thought I had imported all my normal settings. Now when I open a folder with multiple mp3 files in it, when I do an insert3, I hear the number of files in the folder, and free space remaining on the disc, but not the total sise of the folder, which I like to know prior to burning this to a cd. If I select one of the mp3 files , I do get the size of that specific file. I have made sure the file size in the view tab of the folder options menu is checked for the folder, as well as the file size in the choose details option in the view menu.On XP I would get a total size for the folder as well as each specific file in the status bar. Any idea what I have done wrong? Thanks in advance. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista
aww know probs any time chat soon hannah -- Hannah E-mail hannahday1...@googlemail.com Msn hannahday1...@hotmail.co.uk Skype hannahday - Original Message - From: Stewart A Overbey Jr. saover...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista Thanks so much for your input. Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Hannah Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista in my case i've got vista here . but wish i was on xp but i'm hoping to upgrade to windows 7 if i can. i not too impressed with vista chat soon hannah -- Hannah E-mail hannahday1...@googlemail.com Msn hannahday1...@hotmail.co.uk Skype hannahday - Original Message - From: Stewart A Overbey Jr. saover...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:00 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vista Can anyone tell me why I should upgrade to Vista from XPPro? What are advantages, enhanced features, ETC. Thanks, Stewart Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista
Totally agree. XP was much easier to use and many more useful features than vista. Also note if you have some older scanners software etc there may not be aa driver upgrade. This happened to me with a perfectly good 4 year old HP scanner, which was not supported for vista by HP. I suspect this may happen with 7.1 as well. - Original Message - From: Hannah hannahday1...@googlemail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:23 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista in my case i've got vista here . but wish i was on xp but i'm hoping to upgrade to windows 7 if i can. i not too impressed with vista chat soon hannah -- Hannah E-mail hannahday1...@googlemail.com Msn hannahday1...@hotmail.co.uk Skype hannahday - Original Message - From: Stewart A Overbey Jr. saover...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:00 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vista Can anyone tell me why I should upgrade to Vista from XPPro? What are advantages, enhanced features, ETC. Thanks, Stewart Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista
know what you mean. think vista is a money making thing. ok a new operating system. but it has made moast of us pay a lot of money to buy soft ware chat soon hannah -- Hannah E-mail hannahday1...@googlemail.com Msn hannahday1...@hotmail.co.uk Skype hannahday - Original Message - From: john frei...@295.ca To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista Totally agree. XP was much easier to use and many more useful features than vista. Also note if you have some older scanners software etc there may not be aa driver upgrade. This happened to me with a perfectly good 4 year old HP scanner, which was not supported for vista by HP. I suspect this may happen with 7.1 as well. - Original Message - From: Hannah hannahday1...@googlemail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:23 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista in my case i've got vista here . but wish i was on xp but i'm hoping to upgrade to windows 7 if i can. i not too impressed with vista chat soon hannah -- Hannah E-mail hannahday1...@googlemail.com Msn hannahday1...@hotmail.co.uk Skype hannahday - Original Message - From: Stewart A Overbey Jr. saover...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:00 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vista Can anyone tell me why I should upgrade to Vista from XPPro? What are advantages, enhanced features, ETC. Thanks, Stewart Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista
John, thanks for your input. Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of john Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:41 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista Totally agree. XP was much easier to use and many more useful features than vista. Also note if you have some older scanners software etc there may not be aa driver upgrade. This happened to me with a perfectly good 4 year old HP scanner, which was not supported for vista by HP. I suspect this may happen with 7.1 as well. - Original Message - From: Hannah hannahday1...@googlemail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:23 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista in my case i've got vista here . but wish i was on xp but i'm hoping to upgrade to windows 7 if i can. i not too impressed with vista chat soon hannah -- Hannah E-mail hannahday1...@googlemail.com Msn hannahday1...@hotmail.co.uk Skype hannahday - Original Message - From: Stewart A Overbey Jr. saover...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:00 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vista Can anyone tell me why I should upgrade to Vista from XPPro? What are advantages, enhanced features, ETC. Thanks, Stewart Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista
hi it depends on why you where thinking of it to begin with. I had to buy a new pc couple days ago because my xp machine crashed. So was left with two choices, buy a new computer with vista and get on with it, or don't have a computer. might as well chop my arms off than have no computer. *smiles* I figured might as well get used to vista since I had to purchase a new machine any way. yes, I'll agree vista is different to xp, but in a lot of ways, exactly the same. you still have a desktop, you still have email, you still have menues. windows mail was outlook express, but honestly if you could use the latter then you sure can use the former. I.E is version 7 so that the same as XP. I would strongly recommend anyone wishing to go for vista, takes a look at the daisy files from freedom scientific. it does explain a lot and how to manage the new layout of the desktop, what the vista gadgets are etc. so meaning no di respect to anyone, I totally disagree with people when they say don't upgrade, it's not accessible load of rubbish and gives a total wrong impression. what is good for one might not work for another, but I would say try it out as you might find it is easier to use than what you currently have. and, you might like it. I'm sorry if this upset anyone, this was not my intention. I for one was scared off from upgrading by the so called experts I am not pointing any fingers here. my last comments here are, ask yourself your own questions? why do you want to upgrade? Thanks Elaine - Original Message - From: Stewart A Overbey Jr. saover...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista Thanks David, those were my thoughts, but, wanted to see if there were any proponents of vista Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:13 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista Just my opinion of course, don't do it. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com VIP Conduit Tech Support www.vipconduit.com - Original Message - From: Stewart A Overbey Jr. saover...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:00 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vista Can anyone tell me why I should upgrade to Vista from XPPro? What are advantages, enhanced features, ETC. Thanks, Stewart Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista
Although, I run vista here, I've been running it for about a year and a half. I've found it to be less stable, but maybe it's just me. I like the new features, but hate the instability. Thanks. Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. - Brian W. Kernighan - Original Message - From: Elaine elaine.d...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista hi it depends on why you where thinking of it to begin with. I had to buy a new pc couple days ago because my xp machine crashed. So was left with two choices, buy a new computer with vista and get on with it, or don't have a computer. might as well chop my arms off than have no computer. *smiles* I figured might as well get used to vista since I had to purchase a new machine any way. yes, I'll agree vista is different to xp, but in a lot of ways, exactly the same. you still have a desktop, you still have email, you still have menues. windows mail was outlook express, but honestly if you could use the latter then you sure can use the former. I.E is version 7 so that the same as XP. I would strongly recommend anyone wishing to go for vista, takes a look at the daisy files from freedom scientific. it does explain a lot and how to manage the new layout of the desktop, what the vista gadgets are etc. so meaning no di respect to anyone, I totally disagree with people when they say don't upgrade, it's not accessible load of rubbish and gives a total wrong impression. what is good for one might not work for another, but I would say try it out as you might find it is easier to use than what you currently have. and, you might like it. I'm sorry if this upset anyone, this was not my intention. I for one was scared off from upgrading by the so called experts I am not pointing any fingers here. my last comments here are, ask yourself your own questions? why do you want to upgrade? Thanks Elaine - Original Message - From: Stewart A Overbey Jr. saover...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista Thanks David, those were my thoughts, but, wanted to see if there were any proponents of vista Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:13 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista Just my opinion of course, don't do it. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com VIP Conduit Tech Support www.vipconduit.com - Original Message - From: Stewart A Overbey Jr. saover...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:00 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vista Can anyone tell me why I should upgrade to Vista from XPPro? What are advantages, enhanced features, ETC. Thanks, Stewart Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista
David, and all, I truly appreciate your comments. I am glad to hear, at least one person suggest the upgrade. I have used it with JAWS, when trouble shooting friends computers, and found it accessible if not cumbersome.. I'm sure It wouldn't be so once I learned to use it, but I have a great computer, and am not in the market for a new computer. I was considering, and still am, the upgrade, so that when Windows 7 comes out, I will be able to upgrade more easily. With Microsoft's track record for releasing operating systems prematurely, I believe I'll wait for a year after windows 7 is out to consider upgrading. Thanks again all! Stewart Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Derek Roberts Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:50 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista Although, I run vista here, I've been running it for about a year and a half. I've found it to be less stable, but maybe it's just me. I like the new features, but hate the instability. Thanks. Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. - Brian W. Kernighan - Original Message - From: Elaine elaine.d...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista hi it depends on why you where thinking of it to begin with. I had to buy a new pc couple days ago because my xp machine crashed. So was left with two choices, buy a new computer with vista and get on with it, or don't have a computer. might as well chop my arms off than have no computer. *smiles* I figured might as well get used to vista since I had to purchase a new machine any way. yes, I'll agree vista is different to xp, but in a lot of ways, exactly the same. you still have a desktop, you still have email, you still have menues. windows mail was outlook express, but honestly if you could use the latter then you sure can use the former. I.E is version 7 so that the same as XP. I would strongly recommend anyone wishing to go for vista, takes a look at the daisy files from freedom scientific. it does explain a lot and how to manage the new layout of the desktop, what the vista gadgets are etc. so meaning no di respect to anyone, I totally disagree with people when they say don't upgrade, it's not accessible load of rubbish and gives a total wrong impression. what is good for one might not work for another, but I would say try it out as you might find it is easier to use than what you currently have. and, you might like it. I'm sorry if this upset anyone, this was not my intention. I for one was scared off from upgrading by the so called experts I am not pointing any fingers here. my last comments here are, ask yourself your own questions? why do you want to upgrade? Thanks Elaine - Original Message - From: Stewart A Overbey Jr. saover...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista Thanks David, those were my thoughts, but, wanted to see if there were any proponents of vista Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:13 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista Just my opinion of course, don't do it. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com VIP Conduit Tech Support www.vipconduit.com - Original Message - From: Stewart A Overbey Jr. saover...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:00 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vista Can anyone tell me why I should upgrade to Vista from XPPro? What are advantages, enhanced features, ETC. Thanks, Stewart Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista
I agree, my experience with Vista Business and Home Premium is the same ever since I upgraded in January 08. For new users it is not worth the hassle when XP does the job quite admirably. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Derek Roberts Sent: 16 July 2009 18:50 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista Although, I run vista here, I've been running it for about a year and a half. I've found it to be less stable, but maybe it's just me. I like the new features, but hate the instability. Thanks. Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. - Brian W. Kernighan - Original Message - From: Elaine elaine.d...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista hi it depends on why you where thinking of it to begin with. I had to buy a new pc couple days ago because my xp machine crashed. So was left with two choices, buy a new computer with vista and get on with it, or don't have a computer. might as well chop my arms off than have no computer. *smiles* I figured might as well get used to vista since I had to purchase a new machine any way. yes, I'll agree vista is different to xp, but in a lot of ways, exactly the same. you still have a desktop, you still have email, you still have menues. windows mail was outlook express, but honestly if you could use the latter then you sure can use the former. I.E is version 7 so that the same as XP. I would strongly recommend anyone wishing to go for vista, takes a look at the daisy files from freedom scientific. it does explain a lot and how to manage the new layout of the desktop, what the vista gadgets are etc. so meaning no di respect to anyone, I totally disagree with people when they say don't upgrade, it's not accessible load of rubbish and gives a total wrong impression. what is good for one might not work for another, but I would say try it out as you might find it is easier to use than what you currently have. and, you might like it. I'm sorry if this upset anyone, this was not my intention. I for one was scared off from upgrading by the so called experts I am not pointing any fingers here. my last comments here are, ask yourself your own questions? why do you want to upgrade? Thanks Elaine - Original Message - From: Stewart A Overbey Jr. saover...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista Thanks David, those were my thoughts, but, wanted to see if there were any proponents of vista Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:13 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista Just my opinion of course, don't do it. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com VIP Conduit Tech Support www.vipconduit.com - Original Message - From: Stewart A Overbey Jr. saover...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:00 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vista Can anyone tell me why I should upgrade to Vista from XPPro? What are advantages, enhanced features, ETC. Thanks, Stewart Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista
max out the ram and that will go away. At 01:49 PM 7/16/2009, you wrote: Although, I run vista here, I've been running it for about a year and a half. I've found it to be less stable, but maybe it's just me. I like the new features, but hate the instability. Thanks. Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. - Brian W. Kernighan - Original Message - From: Elaine elaine.d...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista hi it depends on why you where thinking of it to begin with. I had to buy a new pc couple days ago because my xp machine crashed. So was left with two choices, buy a new computer with vista and get on with it, or don't have a computer. might as well chop my arms off than have no computer. *smiles* I figured might as well get used to vista since I had to purchase a new machine any way. yes, I'll agree vista is different to xp, but in a lot of ways, exactly the same. you still have a desktop, you still have email, you still have menues. windows mail was outlook express, but honestly if you could use the latter then you sure can use the former. I.E is version 7 so that the same as XP. I would strongly recommend anyone wishing to go for vista, takes a look at the daisy files from freedom scientific. it does explain a lot and how to manage the new layout of the desktop, what the vista gadgets are etc. so meaning no di respect to anyone, I totally disagree with people when they say don't upgrade, it's not accessible load of rubbish and gives a total wrong impression. what is good for one might not work for another, but I would say try it out as you might find it is easier to use than what you currently have. and, you might like it. I'm sorry if this upset anyone, this was not my intention. I for one was scared off from upgrading by the so called experts I am not pointing any fingers here. my last comments here are, ask yourself your own questions? why do you want to upgrade? Thanks Elaine - Original Message - From: Stewart A Overbey Jr. saover...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista Thanks David, those were my thoughts, but, wanted to see if there were any proponents of vista Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:13 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista Just my opinion of course, don't do it. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com VIP Conduit Tech Support www.vipconduit.com - Original Message - From: Stewart A Overbey Jr. saover...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:00 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vista Can anyone tell me why I should upgrade to Vista from XPPro? What are advantages, enhanced features, ETC. Thanks, Stewart Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista
ah. I have like 2 gigs and it's only using 50% of it normally. That of course changes if I start virtualBox and load something interesting in there, then it gets to around 80% or so. Still though, would that be enough to make it break? Thanks. Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. - Brian W. Kernighan - Original Message - From: tim z200...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista max out the ram and that will go away. At 01:49 PM 7/16/2009, you wrote: Although, I run vista here, I've been running it for about a year and a half. I've found it to be less stable, but maybe it's just me. I like the new features, but hate the instability. Thanks. Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. - Brian W. Kernighan - Original Message - From: Elaine elaine.d...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista hi it depends on why you where thinking of it to begin with. I had to buy a new pc couple days ago because my xp machine crashed. So was left with two choices, buy a new computer with vista and get on with it, or don't have a computer. might as well chop my arms off than have no computer. *smiles* I figured might as well get used to vista since I had to purchase a new machine any way. yes, I'll agree vista is different to xp, but in a lot of ways, exactly the same. you still have a desktop, you still have email, you still have menues. windows mail was outlook express, but honestly if you could use the latter then you sure can use the former. I.E is version 7 so that the same as XP. I would strongly recommend anyone wishing to go for vista, takes a look at the daisy files from freedom scientific. it does explain a lot and how to manage the new layout of the desktop, what the vista gadgets are etc. so meaning no di respect to anyone, I totally disagree with people when they say don't upgrade, it's not accessible load of rubbish and gives a total wrong impression. what is good for one might not work for another, but I would say try it out as you might find it is easier to use than what you currently have. and, you might like it. I'm sorry if this upset anyone, this was not my intention. I for one was scared off from upgrading by the so called experts I am not pointing any fingers here. my last comments here are, ask yourself your own questions? why do you want to upgrade? Thanks Elaine - Original Message - From: Stewart A Overbey Jr. saover...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista Thanks David, those were my thoughts, but, wanted to see if there were any proponents of vista Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:13 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista Just my opinion of course, don't do it. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com VIP Conduit Tech Support www.vipconduit.com - Original Message - From: Stewart A Overbey Jr. saover...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:00 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vista Can anyone tell me why I should upgrade to Vista from XPPro? What are advantages, enhanced features, ETC. Thanks, Stewart Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista
Hi I love vista and then I maxed out the RAM on my computer and still liked it. I guess you could say I am a fan of vista. God bless, Mark God loves you! My ham radio lists. http://groups.google.com/group/funhamradio-list MSS and MSP scripting list http://groups.google.com:80/group/msscripting?hl=en - Original Message - From: tim z200...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista max out the ram and that will go away. At 01:49 PM 7/16/2009, you wrote: Although, I run vista here, I've been running it for about a year and a half. I've found it to be less stable, but maybe it's just me. I like the new features, but hate the instability. Thanks. Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. - Brian W. Kernighan - Original Message - From: Elaine elaine.d...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista hi it depends on why you where thinking of it to begin with. I had to buy a new pc couple days ago because my xp machine crashed. So was left with two choices, buy a new computer with vista and get on with it, or don't have a computer. might as well chop my arms off than have no computer. *smiles* I figured might as well get used to vista since I had to purchase a new machine any way. yes, I'll agree vista is different to xp, but in a lot of ways, exactly the same. you still have a desktop, you still have email, you still have menues. windows mail was outlook express, but honestly if you could use the latter then you sure can use the former. I.E is version 7 so that the same as XP. I would strongly recommend anyone wishing to go for vista, takes a look at the daisy files from freedom scientific. it does explain a lot and how to manage the new layout of the desktop, what the vista gadgets are etc. so meaning no di respect to anyone, I totally disagree with people when they say don't upgrade, it's not accessible load of rubbish and gives a total wrong impression. what is good for one might not work for another, but I would say try it out as you might find it is easier to use than what you currently have. and, you might like it. I'm sorry if this upset anyone, this was not my intention. I for one was scared off from upgrading by the so called experts I am not pointing any fingers here. my last comments here are, ask yourself your own questions? why do you want to upgrade? Thanks Elaine - Original Message - From: Stewart A Overbey Jr. saover...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista Thanks David, those were my thoughts, but, wanted to see if there were any proponents of vista Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:13 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista Just my opinion of course, don't do it. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com VIP Conduit Tech Support www.vipconduit.com - Original Message - From: Stewart A Overbey Jr. saover...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:00 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vista Can anyone tell me why I should upgrade to Vista from XPPro? What are advantages, enhanced features, ETC. Thanks, Stewart Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista
it has much better security and if you max out the ram. it runs like a top. you can really tell when its a vista problem and when its a jaws problem. Ben running it for a year now and wouldn't go back to xp for anything. jaws crashed to much and trying to recover was always a reboot. Not with vista! Those that don't like it mostly use it with 1 gig of ram, and that worked fine for xp, but vista is not and I repeat not xp! At 08:00 AM 7/16/2009, you wrote: Can anyone tell me why I should upgrade to Vista from XPPro? What are advantages, enhanced features, ETC. Thanks, Stewart Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] folder options in vista
Turn tool tips on in the jaws verbosity settings and you get that info as you arrow down through the folders. it also works for files. At 01:54 AM 7/16/2009, you wrote: Hello John, For some reason, Microsoft didn't include showing total size of a folder on the status bar in Vista like it was shown in XP. There are a couple things you can do. Perhaps the easiest is to select all while in the list of files and then read the status bar. It is an extra step and you have to be careful of course when selecting all files, but the status bar does give total folder size when you select all files, which you can do with CTRL+A. The other thing that can be done is to turn on the mouse tips in folder options. You can do this by opening the control panel and typing in folder options in the search box (without the quotes). Use tab key until you find the folder options choice and press enter key. Move to the view page of the dialog by using CTRL+Tab key. Use tab key into the list of options. use down arrow in the list to the display file size information in folder tips choice and make sure it is checked. use spacebar to check it if it isn't checked and then OK out of dialogs. While in the music folder bring up the JAWS configuration manager by using JAWS key with 6. Go into settings menu by using Alt+S and arrow down to verbosity settings. Press enter key to open the verbosity settings. Tab to the beginner settings and press enter key. In the list of options use end key to move to the bottom of the list. Use spacebar on the choice for announcing tool tips. Tab to and use apply or OK button until out of the dialog box. Use CTRL+S to save changes. When this is done you will hear the tool tips as you move over subfolders in the music folder. You will need to use backspace and arrow up or down across the music folder to hear its size. However, when you open the music folder you should hear folder size for the subfolders and files as you move up and down the list with arrow keys. Sometimes after moving on to an item with the arrow keys there is a slight delay until the tooltip is spoken. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net - Original Message - From: john frei...@295.ca To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:57 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] folder options in vista A few months ago I switched from XP to Vista, and thought I had imported all my normal settings. Now when I open a folder with multiple mp3 files in it, when I do an insert3, I hear the number of files in the folder, and free space remaining on the disc, but not the total sise of the folder, which I like to know prior to burning this to a cd. If I select one of the mp3 files , I do get the size of that specific file. I have made sure the file size in the view tab of the folder options menu is checked for the folder, as well as the file size in the choose details option in the view menu.On XP I would get a total size for the folder as well as each specific file in the status bar. Any idea what I have done wrong? Thanks in advance. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] folder options in vista
you can't be in the folder to get total size, unless you use the control + a, select all command. my other post tell how to get this info. At 12:57 PM 7/15/2009, you wrote: A few months ago I switched from XP to Vista, and thought I had imported all my normal settings. Now when I open a folder with multiple mp3 files in it, when I do an insert3, I hear the number of files in the folder, and free space remaining on the disc, but not the total sise of the folder, which I like to know prior to burning this to a cd. If I select one of the mp3 files , I do get the size of that specific file. I have made sure the file size in the view tab of the folder options menu is checked for the folder, as well as the file size in the choose details option in the view menu.On XP I would get a total size for the folder as well as each specific file in the status bar. Any idea what I have done wrong? Thanks in advance. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] skype
Right, but if you do that from within skipe. Remember it will go to the release version on the site, not the next version of the next level. At 12:38 PM 7/15/2009, you wrote: Refresh my memory please somebody, it seems to me that there is no need to remove an earlier version of skype before installing a new version. Is this correct? David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com VIP Conduit Tech Support www.vipconduit.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Changing keyboard layout to other languages
Can someone refresh my memory on how this is done? I am interested in changing keyboard settings to United Kingdom, French and Spanish layouts. Francis Khan For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] application key
Hello Ann, I'm glad to have been able to help. When I see stuff on these lists that I think will be helpful to myself and others, I keep it for future use. God bless and have a great weekend ahead. in friendship, Fina peterrubin1...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Ann M. Medlar amedl...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] application key Hi Fina, right button locked right you are. Thanks a bunch. You are a friend. Thanks, Ann - Original Message - From: Fina Currey f.cur...@earthlink.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] application key Hello Ann, I can't b sure, but from what it sounds like, while you were routing PC to Jaws, you probably accidently hit the right mouse button instead by pressing the insert key and the right mouse button, which is located just to the left of the minus key which is what you use in conjunction with the insert key to switch back and forth between the PC and JAWS cursors. What you probably heard the computer say, was right button locked; so, all you have to do, is press the insert key and the right mouse button again and it will say: Right button unlocked and you're good to go. Hope this helps. In friendship, Fina peterrubin1...@gmail.com Just -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ann M. Medlar Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:26 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] application key Hi all, I was routing Jaws to PC cursor and hit a wrong key combo and heard Jaws state something locked. I did not know what I did but Now I am trying to unzip a file using application key and PC cursor only states contentsmenu with no applications available such as open, print, 7zip... I press Jaws key and Jaws speaks. Does anyone know what locked or how to undo my hasty mess? Thanks, Ann For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ NOD32 4247 (20090715) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ NOD32 4247 (20090715) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Setting up a application specific alternate say all
Hi listers I have tried to set up an application specific say all for internet explorer. The only way I have found is to set up a voice profile but when I move into a different application the speech profile doesn't change back to the default. Can anyone suggest a way of getting this to work? Thanks in advance For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista
Hi Elaine!! Its like you took the words right out of my mouth!! I just upgraded the other day to vista and got my new 1545. I was also scared out of upgrading because some people told me bad things too. I agree, you have to upgrade and get on with it. Vista isn't so bad. It like you said isn't much different from xp. It is kinda slower, but you get used to it. Just have a little patience. Not trying to offend anyone either! Sarah A. - Original Message - From: Elaine elaine.d...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista hi it depends on why you where thinking of it to begin with. I had to buy a new pc couple days ago because my xp machine crashed. So was left with two choices, buy a new computer with vista and get on with it, or don't have a computer. might as well chop my arms off than have no computer. *smiles* I figured might as well get used to vista since I had to purchase a new machine any way. yes, I'll agree vista is different to xp, but in a lot of ways, exactly the same. you still have a desktop, you still have email, you still have menues. windows mail was outlook express, but honestly if you could use the latter then you sure can use the former. I.E is version 7 so that the same as XP. I would strongly recommend anyone wishing to go for vista, takes a look at the daisy files from freedom scientific. it does explain a lot and how to manage the new layout of the desktop, what the vista gadgets are etc. so meaning no di respect to anyone, I totally disagree with people when they say don't upgrade, it's not accessible load of rubbish and gives a total wrong impression. what is good for one might not work for another, but I would say try it out as you might find it is easier to use than what you currently have. and, you might like it. I'm sorry if this upset anyone, this was not my intention. I for one was scared off from upgrading by the so called experts I am not pointing any fingers here. my last comments here are, ask yourself your own questions? why do you want to upgrade? Thanks Elaine - Original Message - From: Stewart A Overbey Jr. saover...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista Thanks David, those were my thoughts, but, wanted to see if there were any proponents of vista Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:13 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista Just my opinion of course, don't do it. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com VIP Conduit Tech Support www.vipconduit.com - Original Message - From: Stewart A Overbey Jr. saover...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:00 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vista Can anyone tell me why I should upgrade to Vista from XPPro? What are advantages, enhanced features, ETC. Thanks, Stewart Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista
Hi, Sarah again! I think if someone already has a computer with xp they should keep it. I would have got xp if it didn't cost so much more then vista. If I already had an xp computer, I wouldn't have upgraded, but since I had to, and didn't have the extra then obviously I had not much choice because I needed a computer before windows seven releases. Anyways, Vista doesn't seem as bad as people make it sound, as I wrote in my last email, but I also think that I would keep xp if I had it and only upgrade to vista if I was buying a new machine. Sarah A - Original Message - From: Sarah anson beccaj...@tconl.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista Hi Elaine!! Its like you took the words right out of my mouth!! I just upgraded the other day to vista and got my new 1545. I was also scared out of upgrading because some people told me bad things too. I agree, you have to upgrade and get on with it. Vista isn't so bad. It like you said isn't much different from xp. It is kinda slower, but you get used to it. Just have a little patience. Not trying to offend anyone either! Sarah A. - Original Message - From: Elaine elaine.d...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista hi it depends on why you where thinking of it to begin with. I had to buy a new pc couple days ago because my xp machine crashed. So was left with two choices, buy a new computer with vista and get on with it, or don't have a computer. might as well chop my arms off than have no computer. *smiles* I figured might as well get used to vista since I had to purchase a new machine any way. yes, I'll agree vista is different to xp, but in a lot of ways, exactly the same. you still have a desktop, you still have email, you still have menues. windows mail was outlook express, but honestly if you could use the latter then you sure can use the former. I.E is version 7 so that the same as XP. I would strongly recommend anyone wishing to go for vista, takes a look at the daisy files from freedom scientific. it does explain a lot and how to manage the new layout of the desktop, what the vista gadgets are etc. so meaning no di respect to anyone, I totally disagree with people when they say don't upgrade, it's not accessible load of rubbish and gives a total wrong impression. what is good for one might not work for another, but I would say try it out as you might find it is easier to use than what you currently have. and, you might like it. I'm sorry if this upset anyone, this was not my intention. I for one was scared off from upgrading by the so called experts I am not pointing any fingers here. my last comments here are, ask yourself your own questions? why do you want to upgrade? Thanks Elaine - Original Message - From: Stewart A Overbey Jr. saover...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista Thanks David, those were my thoughts, but, wanted to see if there were any proponents of vista Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:13 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista Just my opinion of course, don't do it. David Ferrin www.jaws-users.com VIP Conduit Tech Support www.vipconduit.com - Original Message - From: Stewart A Overbey Jr. saover...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:00 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vista Can anyone tell me why I should upgrade to Vista from XPPro? What are advantages, enhanced features, ETC. Thanks, Stewart Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless His holy name. Psalm 103:1 Stewart A Overbey sover...@sourcelight.org facebook: http://www.facebook.com/saoverbey 706-474-1336 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista
Hi David, I'm sorry, but this is rather unfair of you. You cannot simply say that this is your opinion and not justify it by not telling us why we shouldn't upgrade, I think it's just plain irresponsible, but that's just my opinion. Smile. In any case, seeing as how you're the owner of this list and it's sister website and accompanying list, Blind Computing, your opinion holds quite a bit of weight on this and the other list, so I think I, and many of others on this list would like to know why the owner of the Jaws users list is vehemently opposing the upgrade to Windows Vista. Victor For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista
Victor, Take this off-list! We are not going to engage in a debate because a post doesn't meet your expectations. Richard Q. Justice-list moderator blind-comput...@jaws-users.com jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: Victor victor.gouv...@rogers.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vista Hi David, I'm sorry, but this is rather unfair of you. You cannot simply say that this is your opinion and not justify it by not telling us why we shouldn't upgrade, I think it's just plain irresponsible, but that's just my opinion. Smile. In any case, seeing as how you're the owner of this list and it's sister website and accompanying list, Blind Computing, your opinion holds quite a bit of weight on this and the other list, so I think I, and many of others on this list would like to know why the owner of the Jaws users list is vehemently opposing the upgrade to Windows Vista. Victor For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
