Re: Accelerating Jenkins development with Jenkins Essentials

2018-02-15 Thread Baptiste Mathus
Le 15 févr. 2018 21:29, "Baptiste Mathus" a écrit : +1, very exciting to make Jenkins operatable by newcomers in a matter of minutes. Having had very recently to drive a newbie to use Jenkins, even if he was very motivated, I think this is a great initiative. The flexibility of Jenkins is a great

Re: Accelerating Jenkins development with Jenkins Essentials

2018-02-15 Thread Baptiste Mathus
+1, very exciting to make Jenkins operatable by newcomers in a matter of minutes. Having had very recently to drive a newbie to use Jenkins, even if he was very motivated, I think this is a great initiative. The flexibility of Jenkins is a great strength for advanced users, but a real difficulty fo

Re: Accelerating Jenkins development with Jenkins Essentials

2018-02-14 Thread nicolas de loof
ok, starting to get your point. But then I wonder why you don't just get evergreen to be the process to start jenkins and control it as a child process, so you don't need extra supervisord 2018-02-14 21:06 GMT+01:00 R. Tyler Croy : > (replies inline) > > On Wed, 14 Feb 2018, nicolas de loof wrot

Re: Accelerating Jenkins development with Jenkins Essentials

2018-02-14 Thread R. Tyler Croy
(replies inline) On Wed, 14 Feb 2018, nicolas de loof wrote: > Something I don't get here is why you need an external evergreen-client to > manage updates, and can't just get this running from within Jenkins. This is covered under "Alternative Approaches" here: https://github.com/jenkinsci/

Re: Accelerating Jenkins development with Jenkins Essentials

2018-02-14 Thread nicolas de loof
Something I don't get here is why you need an external evergreen-client to manage updates, and can't just get this running from within Jenkins. I also wonder how you manage jenkins.war version here, which is bundled in the docker image vs upgrades. Does this mean the image comes with a default jen

Re: Accelerating Jenkins development with Jenkins Essentials

2018-02-14 Thread R. Tyler Croy
(replies inline) On Wed, 14 Feb 2018, nicolas de loof wrote: > > I haven't found any references to supervisord in JEP pull request, neither > about kubernetes - did I miss something ? > Anyway I tend to agree with this comment about packaging supervisord with > jenkins essential within a docker

Re: Accelerating Jenkins development with Jenkins Essentials

2018-02-14 Thread Jesse Glick
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:04 PM, R. Tyler Croy wrote: > I think making a container > orchestrator a requirement at this point would only inhibit adoption and > learning. I am instead erring on the side of "simple and fast" from a user > perspective, the closest we can get (IMHO) to the `java -jar

Re: Accelerating Jenkins development with Jenkins Essentials

2018-02-14 Thread nicolas de loof
2018-02-14 1:04 GMT+01:00 R. Tyler Croy : > (replies inline) > > On Thu, 08 Feb 2018, Surya Gaddipati wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > This is exciting new development. > > > > Couple of comments > > > > 1. Packaging supervisord with another executable is a docker anti > pattern. > > I assume any seriou

Re: Accelerating Jenkins development with Jenkins Essentials

2018-02-13 Thread R. Tyler Croy
(replies inline) On Thu, 08 Feb 2018, Surya Gaddipati wrote: > Hi, > > This is exciting new development. > > Couple of comments > > 1. Packaging supervisord with another executable is a docker anti pattern. > I assume any serious jenkins deployment is on a scheduler like > swarm/kuberne

Re: Accelerating Jenkins development with Jenkins Essentials

2018-02-13 Thread Kohsuke Kawaguchi
While this thread is quiet, between the previous rounds of discussions in Jenkins World contributor summit and the recent mailing list discussion, I think there's a consensus of the general problem space. I intend to accept this JEP here within several day

Re: Accelerating Jenkins development with Jenkins Essentials

2018-02-08 Thread Kohsuke Kawaguchi
Yay! I think this is an important step for the Jenkins project. I'm really excited. We started talking about this in some of the events adjacent to FOSDEM. I think people generally grok the idea and they are happy that we are attacking these challenges. On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 8:03 AM R. Tyler Cro

Re: Accelerating Jenkins development with Jenkins Essentials

2018-02-08 Thread Surya Gaddipati
Hi, This is exciting new development. Couple of comments 1. Packaging supervisord with another executable is a docker anti pattern. I assume any serious jenkins deployment is on a scheduler like swarm/kubernetes ect where supervisord is not necessary. 2. Scripting should be done via yam