Something I don't get here is why you need an external evergreen-client to
manage updates, and can't just get this running from within Jenkins.

I also wonder how you manage jenkins.war version here, which is bundled in
the docker image vs upgrades. Does this mean the image comes with a default
jenkins.war but won't override when used on an existing JENKINS_HOME ? And
then upgrading and restarting service won't actually reflect a core upgrade

2018-02-14 19:26 GMT+01:00 R. Tyler Croy <>:

> (replies inline)
> On Wed, 14 Feb 2018, nicolas de loof wrote:
> >
> > I haven't found any references to supervisord in JEP pull request,
> neither
> > about kubernetes - did I miss something ?
> > Anyway I tend to agree with this comment about packaging supervisord with
> > jenkins essential within a docker image as a bad practice. I don't think
> > this has anything to relate to running this as plain docker or with some
> > orchestrator, this just makes the docker image a mutable instance, which
> > should be avoided. Without much details on where this discussion comes
> from
> > I can't really tell much about alternatives.
> Surya was referring to the second document in this thread which I sent out:
> I understand the "bad practice" argument against this approach but I
> haven't
> yet seen a counter-proposal which accomplishes what jenkins/evergreen
> needs to
> accomplish, without using supervisord in the "basic" container case, or a
> Kubernetes-like thing in the "advanced" case. I'm personally comfortable
> with
> being less dogmatic about what goes into the container, understanding that
> there's a future on the horizon filled with Kubernetes :)
> As to the concern about the image mutability, the evergreen-client would
> only
> be effectively changing content in the mapped `/var/jenkins_home` which
> must by
> the very nature of Jenkins be mutable. I'll update JEP-301 to make that
> more
> explicit.
> Thanks for taking a look-see.
> - R. Tyler Croy
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