Yes, many Javascript libraries involvedin Ketcher -- things may get
complicated.
@Philip:
The design of Ketcher interface is not very flexible -- I don't like
much these systems whose functionality relies on modern html
(javascript, html5 canvas, SVG) and yet rely on a fixed-size
interface
Hi all
I have an image echo. It's working at its full size, but now I need to
(conditionally) reduce its size. The doc says this is possible using a scaling
factor option in font size. However, I am unable to male it work:
set echo formula 0 0;
font echo 22 sans plain 0.75;
set echo image
Ok, solved it using
set echo scale 0.75
I found that using Google, at
http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-12/new.htm
number 10
However, the doc should then be fixed since it says otherwise
http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/?ver=13.0#font
Hi
I have some long scripts running (from spt files) in a JmolApplet within a
webpage.
I would like to include buttons in the page that pause and resume the running
script.
Pause works, but resume seems to be impossible to achieve from the page
(it works from the applet's console).
I have
Hi Rolf
Since labels are attached to atoms, I think this is the way it works. When
atoms are not visible, labels go off.
Still, I think I have some trace-only models with labels. I will need to find
out.
An alternative could be to use 3D-attached echos.
My feeling is that !quit is a radical end everything.
I vote for it stopping all efects: animation, vibration,
minimization...
How about spinning? I am seeing that at least quit does not stop
spinning. Permanent spinning is irritating to me, so I'd be happy
that it is also stopped by one or
in Jmol app !quit does stop spinning. Also in HTML5 and Java applet.
Maybe you have an older version?
No. I've being typing quit, no !quit
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I think that using Jmol for just displaying several 2D structures is overkill.
From your MOLfiles many pieces of software can offer a display. For
example, JME is much ligther than Jmol. Or you probably should try some of
the html+javascript based viewers that do not rely on Java.
There are a few 2D viewer applications that could be used to display
the MOLfiles as flat structure images.
For example, ChemDoodle WebComponents may well do it:
http://web.chemdoodle.com/installation/download
http://web.chemdoodle.com/tutorial/2d-structure-canvases/viewer-canvas
@LMH,
see for example a simple demo of table with images of structures generated
on the fly from MOLdata:
http://biomodel.uah.es/en/DIY/ChemDoodle/2d-viewer_4.7.0/test1.htm
That should be easy to connect to whatever you use to generate the html
page and table, right?
Bob:
It's ChemDoodle Viewer -- simple enough, and small js files. Not interactive
at all. It reads the MOLfile data which seems to be what is available for LMH.
LMH:
You will have to read the documentation available at the ChemDoodle
WebElements website. There are a lot of choices for
Hello Wayne
I've done something of the sort in one of my tests.
Don't recall the exact details now, but it was along this line:
The output console that rolls many text lines during initialization
is defined in the Info object, by default it is located in the same
position where the JSmol goes
glad I asked because I would have been somewhat stymied by the link
on that page at the wiki that does not let one download a functional
version.
Wayne, can you explain that? Which is that link? I can fix it
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I am running several scripts in pages using JSmol (downloaded on 21st
Dec.). Those involving draw commands are raising a series of alerts.
I guess it is some debug commands left over in one of the JS files.
For example,
draw pep45 scale 1.2 color yellowTint (4:B.CA) (4:B.O) (5:B.CA)
Hi all
While working on an updated version of export an image from Jmol applet
that will be compatible with the new Jmol-JSO method and applet
surrogates, I see that the image fallback alternative is not working at
http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/jsmol/test2.htm
On the other hand I cannot find
OK. I was trying to cover all known variations.
Interestingly, I found that by loading a PNG+Jmol file (saved from the app)
instead of the PDB file, when I specify image as the only option in Info, the
png image is indeed displayed. Nice!
Dear Bob,
Thanks for the comprehensive summary on the state of Jmol applet and
JSmol.
First of all, a huge thanks for the tremendous effort you have put in such a
short time and the extraordinary product you have achieved to make. We all
owe you much.
A few notes of my own to share with
OK, so I have an update of my former Exporting from Jmol applet an image
of the current view method,
http://biomodel.uah.es/Jmol/export-image/
that is now compatible with Jmol-JSO-HTML5 (JSmol), Jmol-JSO-Java and
Jmol-JSO-WebGL
it is temporarily located at
I have not had any problems with this, at least with Firefox. I think what
you say is true for MSIE.
It's also possible that I set some sort of flag to allow that.
No, seriously. I'm using Firefox and the JS libraries do not finish loading
from
local files. I gave up trying to understand
Thank you, Pino
I thought that was updated to the last version, but maybe not. I will check the
files again.
I did have some problems loading some pdb files that gave
format-not-recognised errors. I played a bit with file extensions and gzipped
or not, so I may have it broken.
Right now, both
Quick question:
Can the (recently implemented) pop-up menu in JSmol be
disabled/enabled?
It would be good to have that feature and, if possible, to use
something similar to the applet method, i.e. set disablePopupMenu
TRUE in script
Another choice would be some tag in the Info variable
I'll share my experience in Windows on this issue:
Today my Firefox also started blocking the Java plugin I had.
After an update from java.com, the plugin is not fully blocked but
Firefox is asking for permission to run each instance of Jmol applet
(unsigned) -- at least on first use of that
Hello, Henry
Yes, that is becoming a nuisance.
For me (Windows), although copy does not work, selecting the text and
dragging it to a text editor works, depending on the precise text editor
(cannot give a rule for them, even Word may accept the drag).
A colleague using Mac reported this
Dear Eric, glad to hear from you
In Windows 7, I find huge speed differences between browsers for
JSmol. Sorry if this has already been reported.
I am also seeing this, although I haven't done a systematic analysis.
I understand all comes down to the Javascript engine or
implementation of
not comparing Jmol to
this or that software, but it seems that Jmol would adopt canonical
selection rules that coincide with the PDB formatting style.
Is the segid in the PDB specification? I never saw it
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Hello again
I suspect this is an issue of different terminology, but the functionality you
ask for is likely there.
Some pointers:
http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/#atomexpressionsfunctions
see WITHIN SEQUENCE
e.g.
select within(PGATG,*) //would select all atoms in that peptide sequence
Hi
So this is a question of file format.
PDB file format specification has not any hint of columns 72-75 or the segID
field, either in the current Version 3.3: July, 2011 / Nov. 21, 2012
http://www.wwpdb.org/documentation/format33/sect9.html#ATOM
or in the oldest referenced in wwPDB, Version
I'm pretty sure I can help you out, Eric, but not right now. You'll
need to give me some time.
First shot: have to tried to wrap the jmolApplet() call in a div that
has style float?
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need to give me some time.
First shot: have to tried to wrap the jmolApplet() call in a div that
has style float?
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I'm just curious...
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I am reading it's got Chrome -- it should run!
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Hi Pino
Nothing to do with my site or with Jmol/JSmol.
It's an issue of Java version and browser version and policies.
Nasty indeed. Anyway, for me once I accept the alert the applet loads fine in
Firefox 13, IE 9, and Chrome (Java 1.7.0_11)
And the JSmol boxes should be working fine, right?
Mike, I downloaded it like 2 hours ago and it unzipped well
(Windows, WinZip)
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Hi Jonathan
I don't think that download or ftp will be your problem. It is a
zipfile, so the contents will not be altered during file retrieval.
Make sure you are downloading the correct file,
http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/jsmol.zip
Then it might be a question of how it is unzipped, but I
http://myweb.brooklyn.liu.edu/jgough/ChemResources/example3.htm
I am not sure, but it is possible that this line within Info in your page
j2sPath: j2s,
is read as find the files in subfolder j2s of the current (i.e. this page)
folder
So it's no surprise that it does not load
I think you
Hi Jonathan
I have no experience with MO, but some with surfaces.
Although you can include color and translucency in the same surface
command, I' ve found it tricky and the safest is to do it separately. You must
give a name to each surface first. Try this:
isosurface surf1 mo 6;
isosurface
I find that Java 7 (1.7.0_11) on Windows is very sluggish. So slow that it
could well drive away
most users of complex Jmol pages (e.g. Proteopedia, FirstGlance in Jmol).
That's strange, Eric.
I've been using Java 7 for a long time in one of my PCs and have not noticed
this problem. It
In Windows, since a week or so when this Java danger started, Firefox
blocks all applets but allows you to activate them by one click -- until next
time a page is loaded, then you must do it again.
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Thanks. It seems to be working now for me.
Great! And the solution was...?
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I'm afraid I have no experience in building apps, but as a first line of attack
I'd
ask: is this problem restricted to the use of 2 JmolPanels?
To me it seems indeed that the path is not being properly parsed and you get
a mixture of the base path + the chosen path.
Another thng to
There's probably no updated API documentation written anywere
Bob may tell you for sure what's the state, or towhat extent you can keep
using the old one.
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Hi David
I don't know about doing this at the development level, but with scripting he
regular app or applet:
xyz format does not provide connectivity (bonds)
mol format is also quite simple and does include bond information
Simone, do you have a url we can test?
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http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=jmol-users
is the official archive, but I agree there is no apparent way of
searching through it
There are several mirrors, e.g. I regularly use
http://www.mail-archive.com/jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net/maillist.
html
that
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You may be interested on reading this -- it is offered for free by ACS
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Hi Tony
As the test report says, Safari should be compatible. The most likely cause
for your problem is recent policies of blocking Java applets due to the
vulnerabilities reported. In particular, Apple remotely forces applet disabling
in Safari.
I'm not a Mac user, so I cannot offer specific
Hi Bob
We had some problems with MSIE 9, but that should be fixed. If someone would
try this with
Safari 5.1, I would appreciate it. Particularly the link down on the middle
column, load k04041.cif
{1 1 1}
http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/jsmol/jsmol.htm
Works in Safari 5.1.7 (Windows
Dear Eric,
I cannot reproduce your problem.
Fixing the monitor line with the mouse also fails at
http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-12/simple.htm
(Jmol 13.1.11 signed applet).
That works correctly for me. I can set monitors for distance and angle using
the mouse.
Firefox 18,
This feature sounds interesting. Simplistic protein rendering! :-)
I think you are suggesting:
ellipsoid {atom set}
Should we give that a try? Oliver, would it be useful to allow an
option that includes atomic masses?
I had a request (off-list) recently as to how to find the center of
El 13 Feb 2013 a las 18:00, Eric Martz escribió:
This restructuring of FirstGlance HTML was
greatly facilitated by the resizable Jmol
template B generously provided by Angel Herráez
http://biomodel.uah.es/Jmol/resizable/inicio.htm
I am deeply thankful to Angel!
So glad to pay you back
Jonathan, I'd say that has nothing to do with JSmol but with server
configuration.
I saw that for JSmol pages, being all js loaded into the browser, gets a
different behaviour than with Java. For example, from my server the
extension also raised different behaviours when loading (I don't
I agree with Otis regarding the use of txt. I still try to avoid using txt
systematically (beacuse I quite prefer to know what's in a file) but it may be
a
sensible mesure.
Served file suffixes have to be registered. I don't understand why this would
be browser
dependent, however.
Well,
If a file is a binary type, some browsers simply won't be able to
read it ever from your hard drive. But they will from a server,
provided you have the jsmol.php file installed there, which will
convert the binary file to BASE64 and pass it back to those
binary-incapable browsers in that
Hello Simone
#1
I believe (but am not sure) that with the latest versions you only
need to call JSmol.min.js
The call to j2sjmol.js will be done internally based on the path
specufied in the Info variable.
#2
Information in the Wiki is not up-to-date (must find time to do it,
and the WIki was
Ah, OK
JSmol distribution is still not well roganized, I'm afraid. There's
also a bit of confusion between Jmol-JSO and JSmol (which I'm
planning to sort out and explain in the wiki)
I suggest that you download from StOlaf. The link is in the wiki
http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php/JSmol
(there
Robert Hanson wrote:
draw scale 500 arc ... 5-Angstrom diameter
500 == not 5 angstrom, I'd say ?
* What's the best way to draw a line without an arrow head? Use 'draw
cylinder'?
Yes, I think so.
There is draw line (polyline) and draw curve, which is useful e.g. for
arbitrary curves
On 23 Feb 2013 at 15:36, Robert Hanson wrote:
with unreleased updates going to
http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/jsmol/jsmol.zip
That should be
http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/jsmol.zip
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, these behaviors are still present in 13.0. Thanks for updating,
Andreas.
Thanks,
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On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 3:38 AM, Angel Herráez angel.herr...@uah.es
wrote:
Robert Hanson wrote:
draw scale 500 arc ... 5-Angstrom diameter
500 == not 5 angstrom, I'd say
El 24 Feb 2013 a las 20:29, Robert Hanson escribió:
Anybody know if that's the case? -- That if you access your local
machine via localhost and an apache server, you can access files that
are not downstream of the path of the HTML page?
I'm not sure right now if in my case the paths resemble
right -- let's get that clarified on the wiki.
OK, I will do it.
Still I cannot grasp what is the exact limitation, all being
javascript any folder should be possible. We are not talking about
getting files from other server.
On 25 Feb 2013 at 13:27, Fred Ziegler wrote:
All:
Uploaded to the serverFEZtest5.html (subdirectory), and JSmol and
cyclohex.mol to the directory, one level up). Does not work. Used ../
annotation in three locations. What am I doing wrong. Fred
Fred, I tried your source code locally,
When is a bug not a bug?
I guess it depends on the number of legs it has :-D
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Working for me , too
(Firefox on WIn7)
Clear your cache, maybe
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Dear Jmolers,
Information about JSmol and Jmol JavaScript Object is more or less
complete and up-to-date now in the Wiki,
http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php/Jmol_JavaScript_Object
More details will be need to be added later, but I believe this now agrees with
the current state and, even if not
http://biology.kenyon.edu/BMB/jsmol/simple2.htm
Yes! Same result as Mike: first it loads the Java applet, but the HTML5 links
loads the JSmol version OK
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I am hitting my head against the wall. Cannot trace what's going on.
Can this error be due to location of files and folders?
Error: TypeError: b._script is not a function
Archivo de origen: http://localhost/jsmol_28feb/JSmol.min.js
Línea: 289
It's happening with both Jmol.Java and JSmol.HTML5
Rolf, you can check out
http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php/Protein_Community
Hope it is correct
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That error usually displays when the applet JAR files are not found,
either because of a wrong path or because you specify signed applet
and have only the unsigned files (or vice versa).
I don't think it has anything to do with Java policies. Maybe because
of the blocking dialog the
I would say:
1. you need an envelope div#1 or other element that has position:relative
(absolute will do too)
2. inside that div#1, you set div#2 with position:absolute; left:0;top:0;
3. inside div#1 and next (sibling) to div#2, you set div#3 also with
position:absolute; left:0;top:0;
div#3
Based on current (generated) source code in
http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/jsmol/jsmol.htm
this could be enough (portions in red added over the existing code):
div id=jmolApplet0_appletinfotablediv
style=width:300px;height:300px;position:relative;
div id=jmolApplet0_appletdiv etc
canvas
I can see how we might want two different images, one first and then one
during loading. A nice
animated GIF would be handy for the loading part.
My previous tests (but not with current JSmol) showed that the browser
cannot cope with animated GIFs while loading JSmol libraries. They just
Greg, this sounds very interesting. I hope you can succeed.
I have successfully included JSmol in our VLE pages
It would be interesting to the Jmol community if you could share some
guidance abbout that implementation. There is a section in the Jmol
Wiki,
Otis, have you tried
show PDBHEADER
?
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This problem comes back from time to time, I thought we could be
forgetting it.
All depends on whether the browser knows the encoding of the
JavaScript and JmolScript files.
You are using the Java applet, not JSmol, right?
First choice I would suggest is to make sure that all
El 11 Mar 2013 a las 9:04, Sérgio Ceroni da Silva escribió:
Already tried that using Notepad++, encoding in UTF-8 with and without
BOM. No success.
m... Weird
Do you have a link url I can see?
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Richard, my experience is that IE behaviour changes dramatically depending
on the (compatibility) mode it adopts --particularly for CSS-related things.
For
that, including a proper DOCTYPE in the page header is crucial.
But I'd expect IE8 to work correctly for most things also in JSmol.
That's great, Bob
Users: you may be also interested on my tests along this issue:
http://biomodel.uah.es/en/noJava/export-image/index.htm
Maybe it's the same technique Bob has implemented.
Note that page is not using the latest JSmol files.
Server-side processing is only needed for IE clients.
How do you tell? Is there a version number somewhere?
There is a number inside the files, and in the popup menu. Bob was
explaning this recently in another thread, maybe just yesterday.
I know it's a big download, but I cannot find an explanation to your problem,
so it might be a bug that
This is not an answer. It's a parallel question. Is this link the source for
the latest JSmol development update?
http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/jsmol.zip
Yes, it is that, Otis
Explained at
http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php/Jmol_JavaScript_Object#Installation
But the cartoons structure of my test applet looks not very smooth and has
jagged edges.
I am wondering if there are any other features to get smoother structure.
It may depend on your particular molecule, but yes you can control
smoothing of the cartoons. See the documentation:
Console:
The content text is in Spanish. The close link in the top yellow bar is in
English (probably rightly so), as well as the buttons at the bottom.
The popup menu shows in Spanish allright
Firefox 19.0.2
navigator.userAgent = Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:19.0)
Gecko/20100101
TwirlyMol maybe?
14 kb!
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What is the language flag checked for enabling localization ?
I think Bob is using the language reported by the browser
navigator.language (Mozilla at least)
navigator.userLanguage (MSIE)
This is different to Jmol-Java which relies on Java, which reads the
operating system language,
I am seeing the same problem as Richard in my IE8, using StOlaf page
http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/jsmol/jsmol.htm
during loading, this error is presented and the page stalls
Object does not accept this property or method
core.z.js, Line 2789 Character 430
saying
More testing:
Firefox:
- all OK
Chrome:
- console and menu display in English
- J.i18n.GT.getLanguage() reports es
- popup menu reports Spanish option selected
- switching languages via menu does not work
Opera
- all OK:
- console and menu display in Spanish
- switching languages via
Correct. We do not support MSIE 8.
Oh, my bad
I understand why (the lack of canvas support), but at some stage I
became convinced that I had seen JSmol running on IE8 here.
Sorry for all the pointless discussion.
Hi Andrea
Since PQR format is so similar to PDB format, you must instruct Jmol to read
it as such. That could be the reason for your problem (or maybe not, but it is
worth a first try)
load pqr::myfile.pqr
(I wrote pqr, but the file extension is irrelevant; it's the prefix before the
::
Hi Andrea
Yes, I went quite mad to arrange the columns in the correct format.
Well, column positions in your example do NOT match what I take for
the correct format, as exemplified in
http://jmol.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/jmol/trunk/Jmol-datafiles/pqr/1
FAS.pqr
I had to shift your Q and R
Further clarification:
I am not sure how strict the Jmol reader for PQR will be for column
positions, but it is safer to stick to the standard.
This is what I have from PDB format specs:
1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8
This mean that the maximum radii ratio that can be visualized
correctly is about 18 (if the lengths are conveniently scaled). Is
there a solution if I would like to visualize packings of spheres
with very different radii, say for example 1:100 or more?
If this limitation is confirmed, you
Note: what is used is not the center of mass, but the geometric
center
See http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php/Recycling_Corner#Center_of_mass
if you want center of mass
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Andrea, this script seems to do what you want:
n1 = {*}.atomno.min;
n2 = {*}.atomno.max;
for (i=n1; i=n2; i++) {
m = s + i;
d = 2 * {atomno=i}.vanderwaals;
// print d;
draw id @m diameter @d {atomno=i};
}
spacefill off;
Tested with file:
REMARK 1 PQR
HETATM1 X-403.3
For consistency, I propose that
JSmol.lite.js should be called JSmol.lite.nojq.js
while
JSmol.lite.jq.js should be renamed JSmol.lite.js
The reason is that by default, both standard JSmol and lightweight
JSmol need jQuery. Since the standard has JSmol.min.nojq.js as an
exceptional alternative,
It seems that stereochemistry gets inverted in JSmol Lite.
I am loading a few amino acids (in MOL format) and they display as D
forms, not L.
Check for example getting alanine from NCI on
http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/jsmol/lite2.htm
versus
http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/jsmol/jsmol.htm
Yes, stereochemistry is OK now
Thanks
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But files in that SF folder cannot be downloaded -- they do not
exist.
I found a download for 0.6.1 in a Yahoo site.
Thinking about a museum of Jmol!
El 3 Apr 2013 a las 22:47, Egon Willighagen escribió:
Nice, but it does not beat Jmol 0.6 from March 2001:
jmol-0.6.1.tar.gz 2001-03-26 2.9 MB
Hello Shane
Should I do something to wait until the animation stops before calling
Jmol.script again? If so, is
there any state function that lets me know that it is okay to start executing
commands?
There is probably a way to do both of those, but it is not trivial.
Is there a reason
El 4 Apr 2013 a las 19:38, Shane Ó Conchúir escribió:
However, the alignment of the LG1 residue [...]
does not seem to work as well
[...]
I did notice that the order of the atoms
in LG1 is different between 1.1 and 2.1.
As a last resort, you can add a 1-to-1 matching list to the command.
Ciao Paolo
if after your commands you type
show draw
you will see this:
draw ID grid_box POLYGON 8 {18.908 -15.639 7.5060005} {34.658
-15.639 7.5060005} {34.658 -15.639 25.506} {18.908 -15.639 25.506}
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