Re: KDE at Qt World Summit 2017 - let's make it the best yet!

2017-08-08 Thread Helio Chissini de Castro
I will go, so I'm stepping up to help. On Tue, Aug 8, 2017, 20:04 Eike Hein wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Berlin, Germany will once again host a Qt World Summit this year, on > October 10th through 12th. This follows on from the Qt Contributor > Summit on October 9th and 10th. > >

Re: radical proposal: move IRC to Rocket.Chat

2017-08-08 Thread Eike Hein
FWIW, I didn't keep up with Matrix to well in recent times, but I remember having a look at it back when it made its first splash (the LWN article at all) and at the time I considered it the most promising-looking IRC replacement attempt yet. It had some of the traits of other attempts that

Re: radical proposal: move IRC to Rocket.Chat

2017-08-08 Thread Martin Klapetek
On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Christian Loosli wrote: > Am Dienstag, 8. August 2017, 20:17:08 CEST schrieb Cristian Baldi: > > Hey there, > > Hello hello, > > > [Various Issues I agree with] > > > Rocket.Chat does not have an official mobile client as of today, again > >

Re: Collecting requirements for a KDE-wide instant messaging solution

2017-08-08 Thread Jonathan Frederickson
On 08/08/2017 06:19 PM, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > - Support for a decent set of Emoji (not just the ones you can create using > ASCII chars). > Using Unicode to display them is probably okay, as long as users can choose > them from a menu in the client instead of having to paste them from >

Re: radical proposal: move IRC to Rocket.Chat

2017-08-08 Thread Jonathan Frederickson
On 08/08/2017 05:57 PM, Eike Hein wrote: > But what I don't want us to do is abandon IRC without retaining > what made IRC successful and good. Some of these things areed > technical points that form our most basic requirements: > > - Free > - Protocol spec > - Self-hostable > - Federated > -

Collecting requirements for a KDE-wide instant messaging solution (was: Re: radical proposal: move IRC to Rocket.Chat)

2017-08-08 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hi everyone, now that hopefully most of the emotional arguments in fiery support of one protocol or another have been exchanged, I'd suggest we move things towards a practical approach and ask ourselves: What are the requirements that KDE has for an instant messaging / chat system for it to be

Re: radical proposal: move IRC to Rocket.Chat

2017-08-08 Thread Eike Hein
I guess as KDE's "IRC guy" (I maintain Konversation) I should chime in here. I like IRC. I regard IRC as important. I think without IRC none of the past 20 years of KDE would have happened, and the reasons for IRC being a successful technology for us and many others start with "chatting is nice"

Re: radical proposal: move IRC to Rocket.Chat

2017-08-08 Thread Christian Loosli
Am Dienstag, 8. August 2017, 21:52:12 CEST schrieb Jonathan Riddell: > On 8 August 2017 at 19:51, Christian Loosli wrote: > > Out of interest: what exactly does IRC lack? There are 4 things coming to > > mind > > for me, all of them with my personal opinion: > Option for full

Re: radical proposal: move IRC to Rocket.Chat

2017-08-08 Thread Nicolás Alvarez
2017-08-08 17:52 GMT-03:00 Jonathan Riddell : > On 8 August 2017 at 19:51, Christian Loosli wrote: >> Out of interest: what exactly does IRC lack? There are 4 things coming to >> mind >> for me, all of them with my personal opinion: > > Option for full names,

Re: radical proposal: move IRC to Rocket.Chat

2017-08-08 Thread Jonathan Riddell
On 8 August 2017 at 21:46, Elvis Angelaccio wrote: > I'm not sure I get this argument. Do we have evidence that new contributors > are scared by IRC? How is signin up on RocketChat/Telegram/whatever easier > than using http://webchat.freenode.net/ ? Teams including VDG,

Re: radical proposal: move IRC to Rocket.Chat

2017-08-08 Thread Jonathan Riddell
On 8 August 2017 at 19:51, Christian Loosli wrote: > Out of interest: what exactly does IRC lack? Would be worth asking the teams who don't use IRC why they don't. Sysadmins use Slack, VDG uses Hangouts, Promo uses Telegram... anyone from those teams able to tell us why?

Re: KDE at Qt World Summit 2017 - let's make it the best yet!

2017-08-08 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2017-08-08, Eike Hein wrote: > Berlin, Germany will once again host a Qt World Summit this year, on > October 10th through 12th. This follows on from the Qt Contributor > Summit on October 9th and 10th. > > I've stepped up to coordinate KDE's presence at QtWS this year. Sune, >

Re: KDE at Qt World Summit 2017 - let's make it the best yet!

2017-08-08 Thread Adriaan de Groot
On Wednesday 09 August 2017 02:18:04 Eike Hein wrote: > - Helpers! Who wants to be an awesome person and go to QtWS and rep > KDE there? Who can make it to Berlin in the timeframe? (I know > there's a KDE Edu sprint and a Blue Systems dev sprint going on, > so no excuses! :P) I'll (almost

Re: KDE at Qt World Summit 2017 - let's make it the best yet!

2017-08-08 Thread Rohan Garg
Hey Everyone interested and willing to commit please speak up, or get in touch with me directly. You will be able to express a pre- ference for booth and talk chairing duty which we'll try to respect when drawing up the duty roster. You'll get lots of karma bonus points if you're

Re: radical proposal: move IRC to Rocket.Chat

2017-08-08 Thread Elvis Angelaccio
On martedì 8 agosto 2017 20:31:13 CEST, Helio Chissini de Castro wrote: I never heard before we have a Matrix enabled server. We don't (and that's the beauty of Matrix!). The reference Matrix server (matrix.org) is bridged with many big IRC networks including freenode, which means it is

Re: radical proposal: move IRC to Rocket.Chat

2017-08-08 Thread Andrea Scarpino
On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 7:08:14 PM CEST Luca Beltrame wrote: > -1 as well. As Luigi said, matrix.org is a better replacement because > the bridge is already up there. Also, it is federated, and FOSS. Another -1 from me. I use both KDE's BNC and Matrix. I started using Matrix as BNC, but I

Re: radical proposal: move IRC to Rocket.Chat

2017-08-08 Thread Cristian Baldi
There seems to be a native Qt/QML client for Matrix ( https://matrix.org/docs/projects/client/quaternion.html), it even seems to be developed by a fellow KDE member, judging from the screenshoot. On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:17 PM, Cristian Baldi wrote: > Hey there, > > I

Re: radical proposal: move IRC to Rocket.Chat

2017-08-08 Thread Jonathan Frederickson
+1 for Matrix - given that it's bridged to Freenode, all you have to do is give out Matrix links instead of linking people to IRC and they'll be able to participate in the same community. You might want to look into creating Matrix rooms manually if you want more control over the room (the

Re: radical proposal: move IRC to Rocket.Chat

2017-08-08 Thread Luigi Toscano
Il 08 agosto 2017 19:09:28 CEST, Eike Hein ha scritto: > > >On 08/09/2017 01:16 AM, Luigi Toscano wrote:> We have an alternative >already working, which bridges IRC (freenode.net and >> OFTC): matrix.org. >> I don't know how many times I should repeat this, but many people are

Re: radical proposal: move IRC to Rocket.Chat

2017-08-08 Thread Eike Hein
On 08/09/2017 01:16 AM, Luigi Toscano wrote:> We have an alternative already working, which bridges IRC (freenode.net and > OFTC): matrix.org. > I don't know how many times I should repeat this, but many people are already > using successfully (I monitor few channels, for example). > > So -1

Re: radical proposal: move IRC to Rocket.Chat

2017-08-08 Thread Luca Beltrame
Il giorno Tue, 08 Aug 2017 18:16:17 +0200 Luigi Toscano ha scritto: > So -1 for moving to Rocket.Chat. -1 as well. As Luigi said, matrix.org is a better replacement because the bridge is already up there. Also, it is federated, and FOSS. -- Luca Beltrame - KDE Forums

Re: radical proposal: move IRC to Rocket.Chat

2017-08-08 Thread Elvis Angelaccio
On martedì 8 agosto 2017 18:16:17 CEST, Luigi Toscano wrote: On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:52:00 CEST Jonathan Riddell wrote: Like all sensible open source communities we use IRC lots for real time communication essential to making low bandwidth decisions in a reasonable timeframe as well as

Re: radical proposal: move IRC to Rocket.Chat

2017-08-08 Thread Christian Loosli
Hi list, first of all a disclaimer: As someone heavily involved with IRC (I am freenode staff) I am of course slightly biased. However: various communities I am in, including freenode, frequently has a look as alternative protocols. They come and, compared to IRC, they also go.

Re: radical proposal: move IRC to Rocket.Chat

2017-08-08 Thread Luigi Toscano
On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 17:52:00 CEST Jonathan Riddell wrote: > Like all sensible open source communities we use IRC lots for real > time communication essential to making low bandwidth decisions in a > reasonable timeframe as well as socialising. > > 20 years ago IRC was cool but these days