Re: [kde-community] Proposal: KDE Manifesto wording revision

2013-11-12 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Tuesday 12 November 2013 23:11:54 Eike Hein wrote: On Tuesday 12 November 2013 22:53:18 Thomas Zander wrote: All these may actually exclude the stuff that is used to create the deliverables. If you use gimp to draw, the gimp file is imporant, but the asset and deliverable is typically

Re: [kde-community] HIG compliance testing via Google Code-in

2013-12-05 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Thursday 05 December 2013 10:16:56 Shantanu Tushar Jha wrote: Plasma Media Center would love to have more usability feedback, as usual :) PMC would surely be interesting to test. The only issue I see is: Which HIGs should it be tested against? It's neither really a Desktop nor an Active

Re: [kde-community] HIG compliance testing via Google Code-in

2013-12-05 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Wednesday 04 December 2013 16:14:26 Jeremy Whiting wrote: I wouldn't mind getting usability information about knewstuff (used in many applications), kanagram, and/or Jovie. thanks, Jeremy Sure! Could you handle feedback for all three? ;) ___

Re: [kde-community] HIG compliance testing via Google Code-in

2013-12-06 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Thursday 05 December 2013 14:26:36 Jeremy Whiting wrote: On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Thomas Pfeiffer colo...@autistici.org wrote: On Wednesday 04 December 2013 16:14:26 Jeremy Whiting wrote: I wouldn't mind getting usability information about knewstuff (used in many applications

Re: [kde-community] KDE Essential Applications - was - Re: Applications in KDE Generation 5

2014-01-16 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Thursday 16 January 2014 11:56:08 Sebastian Kügler wrote: On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 23:46:29 Adriaan de Groot wrote: On Wednesday 15 January 2014 23:13:11 Albert Astals Cid wrote: Besides how would you define this KDE Essential Applications group? I mean a tarball? An XML file

Re: [kde-community] Sad news (fwd)

2014-08-27 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Wednesday 27 August 2014 09:00:04 Jens Reuterberg wrote: Thats terrible news. As a community would it be appropriate to write up a short retrospective of Mojtaba? Perhaps combined with a photo, some information about him, his work and his life and post it on one of the larger KDE blogs?

Re: [kde-community] Your Akademy take-away?

2014-09-12 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Friday 12 September 2014 14:02:39 Lydia Pintscher wrote: Hey folks :) What are the most important things you took away from this year's Akademy? Mine are: * We are an amazing community that really pulls together when needed. Carrying someone up all the way to the castle because they

Re: [kde-community] Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is.....

2014-09-13 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Thursday 11 September 2014 15:56:01 Arjun Ak wrote: How about having something similar to the eudyptula challenge (http://eudyptula-challenge.org/) ? Please don't take this personally, Arjun, but the challenge you linked to serves as the ideal example of how we should _not_ do this ;) Its

[kde-community] Using software created by KDE and KDE-related communities/companies for KDE infrastructure

2014-09-15 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hi everyone, this is a topic that has been going around my head for quite some now, and now I finally decided to actually try and get the ball rolling on it: I think we are quite good at eating our own dog food when it comes to desktop software: Most KDE contributors use Plasma as our desktop

Re: [kde-community] Using software created by KDE and KDE-related communities/companies for KDE infrastructure

2014-09-15 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Monday 15 September 2014 15:04:17 Eike Hein wrote: On 15.09.2014 14:58, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: Where we don't use many of our own products, though, is on the infrastructure side. That's not actually true, btw: - identity.kde.org is us - ballot (the e.v. voting software) is us

Re: [kde-community] Using software created by KDE and KDE-related communities/companies for KDE infrastructure

2014-09-15 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Monday 15 September 2014 16:24:55 Aleix Pol wrote: Hi Thomas, Hi Aleix, First of all, I'd like to say I mostly agree with you. I would add a bit of a twist though, I think we must ensure the services we rely on are free and open as possible, they don't need to be our own (or in a tier2

Re: [kde-community] Give People Access to Great Technology - a possible vision

2014-09-23 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Tuesday 23 September 2014 16:06:36 Stuart Jarvis wrote: What’s making this more confusing is that the VDG are now discussing branding some apps along the lines of ‘Made for…’ I'd be very concerned about this, for any but the most basic components deeply entwined in the desktop shell

Re: [kde-community] FOSDEM Organisation

2014-12-08 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Saturday 06 December 2014 08:36:35 Carl Symons wrote: At least some of the FOSDEM organizers believe that it's important. They have a social conduct policy. It's published in the front of the program brochure. Apparently John doesn't think that it is proper (whatever that means): Social

Re: [kde-community] Blacklisting of free.fr

2015-10-24 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Sunday 27 September 2015 09:32:32 Ben Cooksley wrote: > Hi all, > > In 48 hours, i'll be blacklisting the entire of free.fr from KDE email > infrastructure. This is necessary as it has become apparent that the > security of @free.fr addresses is quite poor - allowing for > subscribers accounts

Re: [kde-community] Greetings Everyone

2015-10-04 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Sunday 04 October 2015 18:19:46 Tanzim Rizwan wrote: > Hello everyone,I just joined in this mailing list to get to know how can I > contribute this community with code, I know c,c++ and python. But I don't > know where do I start. Please anybody show me the path. Hello Tanzim, first of all:

[kde-community] Final review for the KDE Mission survey

2016-06-12 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hi everyone, thank you again for the feedback on the KDE Mission survey! I have tried to implement the feedback to the best of my abilities. You can find the updated survey (still) here: http://survey.kde.org/index.php/858172/lang-en In order to get the survey out the door soon, I'd prefer to

Re: [kde-community] Final review for the KDE Mission survey

2016-06-14 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 13.06.2016 22:42, Alexander Neundorf wrote: A few comments: I think the questions should be pointing a bit more toward the future path, i.e. instead "How useful is it or would it be for KDE's ..." maybe "How useful is it for KDE's future to..." ? The way the questions and answers were

[kde-community] Please participate in our survey for input on KDE's Mission

2016-06-16 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Dear fellow KDE contributors, as already hinted at in the article about KDE's Vision [1], the next step in setting our path into the future is defining KDE's Mission statement. Right after our Vision was published, a group of people started drafting a Mission statement and discussing it on the

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this! : Feedback on survey draft

2016-06-18 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 16.06.2016 13:32, sabayon11 wrote: Very interesting survey. I found some issues very controversial. > ...reach as many users as possible, regardless of which operating systems, applications or services they currently use I say no, focus on quality. Be realistic. Don't take to much on your

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - an alternative draft for discussion

2016-02-06 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Samstag, 6. Februar 2016 16:47:31 CET Ingo Klöcker wrote: > Yes. I think the vision statement needs to be complemented by a mission > statement. But I think, before we tackle the mission statement, we should > nail down the vision. That exactly was our (the "inclusive vision group") plan. And

Re: [kde-community] RFC: Distribution outreach program

2016-02-05 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hi Neofytos! On Dienstag, 2. Februar 2016 23:40:44 CET tetr...@openmailbox.org wrote: > I would like to propose a middle ground solution hoping it will > contribute to the discussion. It will imho serve everyone's interests; > KDE, distributions and users. > > The way I see it, the issue breaks

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - first draft for discussion

2016-02-12 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Freitag, 12. Februar 2016 12:07:27 CET Alexander Dymo wrote: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 1:04 AM, Martin Graesslin wrote: > > Why should there be a line? > > I've been managing software development organizations since 2008. I > attest to the importance of drawing a line.

[kde-community] Vision, mission and manifesto - what is their definition and purpose?

2016-02-09 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hey everyone, analyzing the current discussions around the KDE Vision, I have identified one problem which could underlie much of the tension: It's still unclear what we mean by "vision", "mission" and "manifesto". We cannot really consult a dictionary or encyclopedia to answer this, because

Re: [kde-community] Vision, mission and manifesto - what is their definition and purpose?

2016-02-09 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Dienstag, 9. Februar 2016 23:35:38 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 22:56:32 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > ... > > > That's why I'd suggest that, before discussing the vision any further, we > > should agree on a definition

[kde-community] Distribution outreach program: Where do we go from here?

2016-02-13 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hi everyone, now with neon having been announced, and some members of some distributions fearing that their distribution might become a "second-class citizen" for KDE software due to the less direct communication with KDE, I think that it's more important than ever to publicly reach out to all

Re: [kde-community] RFC: Distribution outreach program

2016-01-30 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Freitag, 29. Januar 2016 21:46:25 CET Luca Beltrame wrote: > Il Fri, 29 Jan 2016 18:09:23 +0100, Thomas Pfeiffer ha scritto: > > Maybe the speed of upgrading as such is not the actual point. What I > > care about is the speed with which bugfixes reach end users. If a > >

Re: [kde-community] RFC: Distribution outreach program

2016-01-29 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Freitag, 29. Januar 2016 16:44:49 CET Luca Beltrame wrote: > Il Fri, 29 Jan 2016 17:06:14 +0100, Thomas Pfeiffer ha scritto: > > I believe that we can improve the situation by intensifying our > > cooperation with distributions even further. On the other hand, however, > &g

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

2016-02-24 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
> KDE: control your digital life and > KDE - Be in control of your digital life. are both fantastic taglines, but not really visions. They sound like KDE already allows that _today_, it's not talking about a goal for the future to aim for. We should keep one of those as a tagline for KDE,

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

2016-02-29 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Montag, 22. Februar 2016 23:05:49 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > On Monday, February 15, 2016 18:36:18 Lydia Pintscher wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > A bit less than two weeks ago we sent the first draft for the > > community vision for KDE. We have gotten a lot of useful feedback and > >

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

2016-02-26 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Freitag, 26. Februar 2016 18:58:49 CET Alexander Dymo wrote: > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote: > > Note that our slogan is: "A safe home for all your data" > > "Access & share your files, calendars, contacts, mail & more from any > > device, on your

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

2016-02-15 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Montag, 15. Februar 2016 21:49:58 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > On Monday, February 15, 2016 18:36:18 Lydia Pintscher wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > A bit less than two weeks ago we sent the first draft for the > > community vision for KDE. We have gotten a lot of useful feedback and > >

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

2016-02-15 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Montag, 15. Februar 2016 21:37:49 CET Laszlo Papp wrote: > In which case, what if digital life is not the future? If the world goes completely back to pen and paper, I fear KDE becomes obsolete, because I don't think we could adapt to that world.

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

2016-02-16 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
hat's what the mission is for. > > On Monday, February 15, 2016 22:27:14 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > > If, say, 10 years down the road, hard- and software is so much > > > intertwined that we cannot influence the future with software alone > > > anymore, we don

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

2016-02-17 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Dienstag, 16. Februar 2016 21:20:25 CET Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > I think it could be stated more gracefully. How about: > > KDE aspires to a world where all users of our technology experience > freedom, privacy and control over their digital lives. But doesn't that mean we don't care how

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

2016-02-17 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Mittwoch, 17. Februar 2016 12:06:06 CET you wrote: > On Wednesday, 17 February 2016 12:46:26 GMT Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > On Dienstag, 16. Februar 2016 21:20:25 CET Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > > > I think it could be stated more gracefully. How about: > > > > &g

Re: [kde-community] Vision, mission and manifesto - what is their definition and purpose?

2016-02-10 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Mittwoch, 10. Februar 2016 21:42:31 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > In the past, the KDE usability team (namely Björn, Heiko and I) have at > > least twice suggested to create a common vision for KDE's products. > > This approach has received mostly negative comments every time, with the > >

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - final version

2016-03-14 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Montag, 14. März 2016 22:39:13 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > On Monday, March 14, 2016 14:58:57 Lydia Pintscher wrote: > ... > > > * collect input for our mission statement. Alexander and others have > > already collected a lot of that. I have created a page on-wiki for > > this here:

[kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

2016-03-30 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hi everyone, now that we've finally agreed on a vision for KDE [1] and have that out of the way, we can fully focus on how we want work towards that vision. Alex has already set up a Wiki page for brainstorming notes [2], so it would be great if everyone who has opinions or ideas about how we

Re: [kde-community] KDE e.V. Community Report for 1st Half of 2015

2016-04-08 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Freitag, 8. April 2016 19:31:18 CEST Sandro Andrade wrote: > On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Clemens Toennies > > wrote: > > On Freitag, 8. April 2016 02:47:12 CEST Sandro Andrade wrote: > >>> I'm happy to inform you that we have just published the KDE e.V > >>>

Re: [kde-community] KDE e.V. Community Report for 1st Half of 2015

2016-04-08 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Freitag, 8. April 2016 02:47:12 CEST Sandro Andrade wrote: > Hi there, Hi Sandro, > I'm happy to inform you that we have just published the KDE e.V > Community Report for 1st half of 2015: Thank you for doing this... > http://ev.kde.org/reports/ev-quarterly-2014_Q4.pdf ...this is the

Re: [kde-community] Looking for new doors to open for KDE

2016-04-11 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Montag, 11. April 2016 23:39:57 CEST Agustin Benito (toscalix) wrote: > Hi all, > > I was unsure if this is the the right list for this since I a not > subscribed to plasma ML.. If not, apologies. > > The last few months I have been working on a project that could be an > interesting

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

2016-04-11 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Donnerstag, 31. März 2016 23:12:15 CEST Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > I'd suggest that we let the brainstorming phase last until Friday and then > > start discussing the ideas collected on that Wiki page. > > two days is quite short (I just saw it right now). > Let's have a week at least, i.e.

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - final version

2016-03-19 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Samstag, 19. März 2016 21:52:09 CET Michael Brade wrote: > Am 19.03.2016 um 21:30 schrieb Alexander Neundorf: > > On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 22:53:03 David Jarvie wrote: > > ... > > > >> This may read a bit better, although it does slightly alter the emphasis: > >> > >> "A world in which

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - final version

2016-03-27 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Dienstag, 22. März 2016 17:24:40 CEST Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2016-03-15, David Jarvie wrote: > >>> > "A world in which everyone enjoys freedom and privacy and has > >> > >>control > >> > >>> > over their digital life." > > "A world in which everyone has control over their

Re: [kde-community] Our new project metadata system

2016-04-01 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Freitag, 1. April 2016 21:54:10 CEST Ben Cooksley wrote: > Out of curiosity, how are the Appstream files accessed by tools such > as the various app centers? > I presume some kind of repository exists? Nope, actually distributions extract the appstream data from the source code of each

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

2016-04-28 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hi everyone, as we've found during the vision creation process that having a concrete draft to work from can streamline the discussion, I tried to come up with one. It goes quite into detail, but I think this is necessary in order to be useful as practical guidance. To fulfill our vision, KDE

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

2016-04-29 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Freitag, 29. April 2016 14:32:33 CEST Olivier Churlaud wrote: > > As Aleix said, what do you mean exactly with that ? > > I could interpret it as > > - sources are available > > - it is easy to build > > - it's highly configurable > > - data is stored in easily accessible formats (text, or

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

2016-04-29 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Donnerstag, 28. April 2016 22:43:02 CEST Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > Does the order of the sections imply priorities ? > E.g. "tinkering" comes before "presence on all device classes" ? Not really, I just put them in the order they came to my mind. If you think a different order makes

Re: [kde-community] A new home for Mozilla Thunderbird at KDE?

2016-04-26 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Dienstag, 26. April 2016 16:03:43 CEST Jos van den Oever wrote: > Hello KDE-ers, > > Mozilla Thunderbird is looking for a new home [1]. They are evaluating a > number of options. KDE was not in the initial list of options, but I think > KDE and Thunderbird would be an excellent fit. > > This

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this! : Feedback on survey draft

2016-05-20 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Freitag, 20. Mai 2016 00:14:36 CEST Alexander Neundorf wrote: > Hi, > > On Wednesday 18 May 2016 23:43:12 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > ... > > > I have created a survey draft at > > http://survey.kde.org/index.php/858172/lang-en > > > > Now please every

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this! : Feedback on survey draft

2016-05-23 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Montag, 23. Mai 2016 17:03:11 CEST Martin Graesslin wrote: > On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 11:43:12 PM CEST Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > I have created a survey draft at > > http://survey.kde.org/index.php/858172/lang-en > > > > Now please everybody click through it an

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this! : Feedback on survey draft

2016-05-18 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Dienstag, 17. Mai 2016 22:06:30 CEST you wrote: > > Hi Alex, > > thank you for reminding me of the email I had been wanting to write today: > > To be honest, I don't think the reach of this mailing list is the problem. > > I've heard from quite a few people who have been following this > >

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this! : Feedback on survey draft

2016-05-22 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Sonntag, 22. Mai 2016 15:38:39 CEST Agustin Benito (toscalix) wrote: > One of our historical problems, in my opinion, has been our little > engagement with the "commercial world". Words can help or holding us > back from turning up side down our current situation. > > Two examples: > > I

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this! : Feedback on survey draft

2016-05-23 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Montag, 23. Mai 2016 07:37:49 CEST Martin Graesslin wrote: > On Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:29:22 PM CEST Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > > 1.- I believe that mobile/desktop convergence is not an emerging trend > > > anymore. > > > > > > 2.- We do an innov

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this! : Feedback on survey draft

2016-05-24 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Dienstag, 24. Mai 2016 01:01:13 CEST Riccardo Iaconelli wrote: > Hi, > > On 23 May 2016 at 19:28, Thomas Pfeiffer <thomas.pfeif...@kde.org> wrote: > > 3. Added another question for the contributors "Which category or > > categories of projects have you contribut

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this! : Feedback on survey draft

2016-05-21 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Samstag, 21. Mai 2016 17:25:06 CEST Marta Rybczynska wrote: > I get: > Error > > We are sorry but you don't have permissions to do this. Ah yes, sorry, I had deactivated it to make changes and then forgot to activate it again. Should work again now!

Re: [kde-community] possible foss alternative to telegram/slack

2016-05-20 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Dienstag, 17. Mai 2016 12:33:25 CEST Nicolás Alvarez wrote: > 2016-05-17 5:55 GMT-03:00 Marco Martin : > > Hi all, > > Right now many groups are using Telegram as their primary communication > > medium due to some limitations in IRC (mainly due to the ease of pasting > >

Re: [kde-community] Open Public Consultation: Revision of the European Interoperability Framework

2016-05-11 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Mittwoch, 11. Mai 2016 11:25:00 CEST Jos van den Oever wrote: > The EU is asking input from its citizens on the next version of the European > Interoperability Framework. > > KDE has a traditional position in Europe and would benefit from a clear > direction towards completely open standards

Re: [kde-community] Open Public Consultation: Revision of the European Interoperability Framework

2016-05-11 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Mittwoch, 11. Mai 2016 15:20:29 CEST you wrote: > On Mittwoch, 11. Mai 2016 11:25:00 CEST Jos van den Oever wrote: > > The EU is asking input from its citizens on the next version of the > > European Interoperability Framework. > > > > KDE has a traditional position in Europe and would benefit

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

2016-05-16 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Montag, 16. Mai 2016 22:59:59 CEST you wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > On Tuesday 10 May 2016 22:48:01 Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 17:18:39 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > ... > > > > Both positions are perfectly valid, of course. Now the problem i

Re: [kde-community] Does KDE attempt to attract experienced contributors?

2016-05-13 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Freitag, 13. Mai 2016 11:06:18 CEST Laszlo Papp wrote: > On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Eike Hein wrote: > > On 05/13/2016 06:50 PM, Laszlo Papp wrote: > >> I do not mean to drag KDE experts away, but it seems that freelancing > >> platforms have become more and more common.

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

2016-05-10 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Montag, 9. Mai 2016 22:49:15 CEST Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > Let's finish our mission before we lose interest ;) > > thanks for pushing :-) > > No objections from my side, just a few thoughts, in no specific order: Glad to hear :) > * I don't like the term "reach where they are", to me

Re: [kde-community] user stats for Neon

2016-04-15 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Freitag, 15. April 2016 17:46:45 CEST Albert Vaca wrote: > What's the problem with pinging the Neon servers? Any system already does > way more than that when checking for updates, not to mention when you > connect to a website, or even IRC. > > How can this ping be violating any privacy if we

Re: [kde-community] user stats for Neon

2016-04-20 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Mittwoch, 20. April 2016 15:49:12 CEST Agustin Benito (toscalix) wrote: > Hi, > > (long mail) > > I went through this same discussions a few years ago in openSUSE. Let > me outline my personal experience/point of view through that > experience. > > At some point, openSUSE was in crossroad

Re: [kde-community] user stats for Neon

2016-04-14 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Donnerstag, 14. April 2016 14:36:21 CEST Jonathan Riddell wrote: > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 04:18:30PM +0200, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > Any potentially privacy-sensitive information transfer should be opt-in, > > not opt-out. > > I'd assume that the vast majority of users

Re: [kde-community] Telegram Relay Service

2016-05-09 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Freitag, 6. Mai 2016 17:58:46 CEST Boudhayan Gupta wrote: > Hi all, > > KDE Sysadmin is excited to announce the availability of a Telegram <-> > IRC relay service. We now have the capability to sync messages both > ways between an IRC channel and a Telegram group. > > Currently, this service

Re: [kde-community] Telegram Relay Service

2016-05-09 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Montag, 9. Mai 2016 20:07:02 CEST Bhushan Shah wrote: > On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 8:03 PM, Thomas Pfeiffer <thomas.pfeif...@kde.org> wrote: > > Stupid question: How does one file a ticket for sysadmin via Phabricator? > > All I've ever used to file sysadmin tickets is > &g

Re: [kde-community] KDE Sysadmin and GPG Encryption

2016-07-27 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 27.07.2016 00:17, Jeff Mitchell wrote: I would avoid reading much, if anything at all, into what Boudhayan wrote, both from the perspective of the sysadmin team and even Boudhayan himself. --Jeff I don't see any "reading into" in any of the replies so far. People have just reacted to

Re: [kde-community] Results from the Mission Survey

2016-07-29 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
For those who follow these lists only through archives or digests and therefore did not get the attachment, here's the link to the PDF: https://share.kde.org/index.php/s/JAefwOmCRSB6qp9 and the original ODP: https://share.kde.org/index.php/s/O3KZRDECua8h9wF Cheers, Thomas

Re: [kde-community] Results from the Mission Survey

2016-07-29 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 29.07.2016 08:57, Mirko Boehm - KDE wrote: Hello Thomas, On 29 Jul 2016, at 01:04, Thomas Pfeiffer <thomas.pfeif...@kde.org> wrote: I'm sorry for taking so long with the survey analysis (analysis and documentation of survey results always end up taking longer than expected), bu

Re: [kde-community] Results from the Mission Survey

2016-07-30 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 29.07.2016 23:27, Alexander Neundorf wrote: Yes, probably. How to interpret other results ? E.g. "Importance of goals". Do we consider the difference between 4.5 ("read as many users as possible" and "convince users to switch away from proprietary") and 5.5 ("do our part to promote

Re: [kde-community] Results from the Mission Survey

2016-08-01 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 01.08.2016 11:20, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Thank you for doing this. I am baffled by the extreme coherence between answers of contributors and of users. Seems like a perfect match. Indeed, I was equally surprised by that. It is true, though (I've just re-checked the data to be 100% sure).

Cleaning up mailing lists?

2016-08-10 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hi everyone, recently I went through lists.kde.org and saw that there are lots of lists there for some short-term projects in the past, or for projects which have long since been abandoned. Given that it probably doesn't give a good impression if someone subscribes to one of those lists only

Re: [kde-community] Randa Meetings fundraising - please spread

2016-07-06 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hi Sandro, going to the fundraiser website, I noticed that it is out of date: It still talks about Randa 2016 being in the future. Shouldn't it be updated, and instead of talking about what we _will_ do there, talk about what _has been done_ there, and than changing the message to "If you

Re: [kde-community] DigitalOcean is now a sponsor!

2016-07-06 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 05.07.2016 21:36, Boudhayan Gupta wrote: Hi Guys, I'm excited to announce that DigitalOcean is sponsoring the KDE Community. Under their open source software sponsoring programme [1], they've very kindly set us up to use computing resources free of charge. Awesome news! Is this sponsorship

Re: KDE at FOSDEM 2017 wrapup

2017-02-06 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Montag, 6. Februar 2017 18:04:16 CET Lydia Pintscher wrote: > On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 1:16 PM, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > Sadly no women at the party again which was commented on social media, > > la presidencia stood us up for VLC. > > Important diplomatic mission ;-)

Re: [kde-community] Results from the Mission Survey

2016-08-21 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 21.08.2016 22:17, Alexander Neundorf wrote: On Monday 01 August 2016 12:05:25 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: On 01.08.2016 11:20, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Thank you for doing this. I am baffled by the extreme coherence between answers of contributors and of users. Seems like a perfect match

Re: [kde-community] Results from the Mission Survey

2016-09-21 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 12.09.2016 18:18, Alexander Neundorf wrote: Hi, On Thursday 01 September 2016 16:54:32 Lydia Pintscher wrote: On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 12:14 AM, Ingo Klöcker wrote: I don't think so. On https://akademy.kde.org/ there's no BoF registered for working on the mission. Thomas

Creating a map of KDE contributors?

2016-09-20 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hi everyone, I recently realized that unless you ask fellow KDE contributors personally where they live, you don't really know where over the world (or even in your home country) KDE is spread. I think this is a pity, given that knowing that would allow us to, among other things - show the

Re: Creating a map of KDE contributors?

2016-09-20 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 20.09.2016 13:49, Jonathan Riddell wrote: Gnome already do this https://wiki.gnome.org/GnomeWorldWide Nice! Though a zoomable map would be nicer, because on that map it's a bit difficult to distinguish cities in more crowded countries.

Re: Creating a map of KDE contributors?

2016-09-23 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 20.09.2016 14:06, Luigi Toscano wrote: On Tuesday, 20 September 2016 13:42:35 CEST Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: Hi everyone, I recently realized that unless you ask fellow KDE contributors personally where they live, you don't really know where over the world (or even in your home country) KDE

Re: KDE Licensing Policy Updates

2016-09-20 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Certainly not. AGPL is like GPL in that sense, with the extra rule that you must publish the source code even if you're only giving access over the network and not distributing binaries. I don't think an AGPL library makes much sense though. ​ALGPL makes sense then :) ​ On

Re: KDE Licensing Policy Updates

2016-09-20 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 20.09.2016 19:52, Nicolás Alvarez wrote: 2016-09-20 14:04 GMT-03:00 Jonathan Riddell : Added: ''Applications which are intended to be run on a server'' can be licenced under the GNU AGPL 3.0 or later Rationale: KDE Store code is under AGPL Question: should this be an

Official "Going to Akademy" banner by Ivan Čukić

2016-08-18 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Dear community, as most of you know, each year, there is a banner for people who go to Akademy to put into their blog posts (or on their social media profiles or wherever) so that the world sees which cool people they can meet there if they're going, and/or donate to KDE so those people can

We now have an Advisory Board

2016-09-27 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Dear KDE, in case you haven't read the Dot article [1] yet: KDE now has an Advisory Board, consisting of KDE e.V.'s Patrons as well as organizations using our software on a large scale (currently LiMux) and other NGOs with visions/missions similar to ours. The list of members is on the

Re: We now have an Advisory Board

2016-09-27 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 27.09.2016 17:52, victorhck wrote: in the article: https://dot.kde.org/2016/09/26/announcing-kde-advisory-board the LiMux link points to itself. Thanks, fixed. I removed the link because I could not find a proper project website for LiMux, and just linking to the Munich website feels too

Re: Kubuntu and other KDE distribution's use of KDE infrastructure

2017-01-14 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Donnerstag, 12. Januar 2017 11:18:07 CET Harald Sitter wrote: > Manifesto says one of our values is "Inclusivity to ensure that all > people are welcome to join us and participate;". Be inclusive, give > Kubuntu and Fedora a place on phab to manage their todos. Costs us > nothing, helps our

Re: Collecting requirements for a KDE-wide instant messaging solution (was: Re: radical proposal: move IRC to Rocket.Chat)

2017-08-15 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hey everyone, just a quick progress update: I have now cleaned up https://notes.kde.org/p/KDE_IM_requirements by removing duplicates, removing all discussion / comments (so only plain requirements are left) and rewording most requirements to that they have a somewhat common wording. The next

Re: Proposal: Have the Community Set Ambitious Goals for Itself

2017-08-14 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Dienstag, 15. August 2017 00:47:15 CEST Lydia Pintscher wrote: > On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 4:48 PM, Mirko Boehm - KDE wrote: > > I have seen only agreement and support for the porposal. What would be the > > required steps to make an official announcement, and encourage people to

Re: [kde-community] Re: radical proposal: move IRC to Rocket.Chat

2017-08-15 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
> On 15 Aug 2017, at 11:42, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 09:49:11PM +0900, Eike Hein wrote: >> >> I've given some more thought to Matrix as a contender and I'm >> increasingly liking this option among the available contenders. > > We have the

Re: [kde-community] Re: radical proposal: move IRC to Rocket.Chat

2017-08-15 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
> On 15 Aug 2017, at 12:09, Jonathan Riddell <j...@jriddell.org> wrote: > > On 15 August 2017 at 10:44, Thomas Pfeiffer <thomas.pfeif...@kde.org> wrote: >> The VDG has contributed to the Etherpad, so their requirements are covered >> in there. > > How

Re: radical proposal: move IRC to Rocket.Chat

2017-08-10 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
> On 10 Aug 2017, at 15:27, Marco Martin wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Albert Astals Cid wrote: >> You can't expect me to read a 200 messages backlog in 20 channels just in >> case >> something important was said while i was away. >> >> Also one

Re: radical proposal: move IRC to Rocket.Chat

2017-08-10 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Donnerstag, 10. August 2017 18:40:34 CEST Christian Loosli wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 10. August 2017, 17:25:14 CEST schrieb Jonathan Riddell: > > LibreOffice are having a similar discussion > > > > https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/projects/msg02257.html > > > > They want to continue

Re: How about an inclusive "and" approach instead of fighting IRC versus something new? (was: Re: Collecting requirements for a KDE-wide instant messaging solution)

2017-08-10 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
> On 10 Aug 2017, at 10:22, Luigi Toscano wrote: > > Il 10 agosto 2017 10:24:08 EEST, Martin Steigerwald ha > scritto: >> Martin Klapetek - 09.08.17, 16:12: But KDE is not a tech startup. As people correctly wrote, KDE has a >> very

Collecting requirements for a KDE-wide instant messaging solution (was: Re: radical proposal: move IRC to Rocket.Chat)

2017-08-08 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hi everyone, now that hopefully most of the emotional arguments in fiery support of one protocol or another have been exchanged, I'd suggest we move things towards a practical approach and ask ourselves: What are the requirements that KDE has for an instant messaging / chat system for it to be

Re: Collecting requirements for a KDE-wide instant messaging solution

2017-08-09 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Mittwoch, 9. August 2017 02:14:44 CEST Jonathan Frederickson wrote: > On 08/08/2017 06:19 PM, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > - Support for a decent set of Emoji (not just the ones you can create > > using > > ASCII chars). > > Using Unicode to display them is probably

Re: Collecting requirements for a KDE-wide instant messaging solution (was: Re: radical proposal: move IRC to Rocket.Chat)

2017-08-09 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Mittwoch, 9. August 2017 09:36:42 CEST Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On Mittwoch, 9. August 2017 01:59:00 CEST Christian Loosli wrote: > > PS: on the importance of emojis and (animated) stickers: I can see why > > people want them for friends and family, I love the stick

Re: Collecting requirements for a KDE-wide instant messaging solution (was: Re: radical proposal: move IRC to Rocket.Chat)

2017-08-09 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Mittwoch, 9. August 2017 01:59:00 CEST Christian Loosli wrote: > PS: on the importance of emojis and (animated) stickers: I can see why > people want them for friends and family, I love the sticker packs I have on > Telegram. But why it is mandatory in a somewhat more professional >

Re: radical proposal: move IRC to Rocket.Chat

2017-08-09 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Dienstag, 8. August 2017 23:52:40 CEST Christian Loosli wrote: > > Looking at #kde-devel just now it says: > > <-- swati_27 (uid130066@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-abaollxcgicrxgwg) > > has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) > > <-- nowrep (~david@kde/developer/drosca) has quit (Quit:

Re: Collecting requirements for a KDE-wide instant messaging solution (was: Re: radical proposal: move IRC to Rocket.Chat)

2017-08-09 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
> On 09 Aug 2017, at 09:57, Adriaan de Groot wrote: > > Can we please keep this thread limited to collecting-requirements, and > therefore arguing over which requirements are required or what their weight > is? That, rather than re-hashing the discussion elsewhere on which

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