Re: [lace] Le Pompe patterns/Wire Lace

2007-02-02 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Hello Everybody, Today I looked through all my material about Goldlace from the time of Rennaissance and I asked two ladies which are specialiced for that subject. The material they used in that time wasn't, in Europe, not gold- or silver-wire. It was pur gold or silver thread ovr a soul of

Re: [lace] Le Pompe patterns, shorter

2007-02-01 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Hello everybody, I am wondering why you are discussing to work the patterns in Le Pompe with wire. As far as I know they didn't work the gold laces in former time with the wire some of us, I too, use today. I must add I don't know these patterns I don't have the book and I don't know what sort

[lace] Le Pompe patterns/wire

2007-02-01 Thread Dmt11home
Some of the interest in the Le Pompe patterns is being spurred by the desire to use wire in lace making. Some wire is very beautiful, it works up nicely, doesn't unravel and there is a general feeling that lace was originally made in wire of precious metal, but it has not survived. In

Re: [lace] Le Pompe patterns, shorter

2007-02-01 Thread Ilske Thomsen
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Re: [lace] Le Pompe patterns/Wire Lace

2007-02-01 Thread Jeriames
In a message dated 2/1/07 12:51:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the museum collection that I work in, there are some examples of metallic laces dating from @1600 but none of wire laces. (Of course, a wire lace might not be stored in a textile facility!) There are

Re: [lace] Le Pompe patterns/Wire Lace

2007-02-01 Thread Dmt11home
In a message dated 2/1/2007 5:00:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How far do you want to go with the wire lace exploration? Maybe Arline Fisch (about whom I've written to Arachne several times) has some answers in her research. She is a foremost international

RE: [lace] Le Pompe patterns, shorter

2007-01-30 Thread Sue
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RE: [lace] Le Pompe patterns, shorter

2007-01-30 Thread lists
I'm going to have to read these messages more in depth when I'm not doing a quick e-mail check from work. I'm really interested in seeing how you guys are doing this pattern without sewings since when I started working on this project about a year ago I didn't have a clue on how these verticals

RE: [lace] Le Pompe patterns, shorter

2007-01-30 Thread purple lacer
Tamera asked How much interest is there, *among the IOLI members*, in reproductions of old plaited laces (in thread or in wire or both)? I know SCA-affiliated lacemakers might be interested, because, with their cut-off date being 1600, their sources of patterns, especially BL ones, are

Re: [lace] Le Pompe patterns

2007-01-30 Thread Debora Lustgarten
Dear Tamara and others in the list, As a SCAdian and novice lacemaker, I'd say *YES* to any and all offers of pre- and post-1600 patterns or interpretations of patterns, or any piece of information on techniques, materials, *anything*!!! :-) it would be a dream come true if an

Re: [lace] Le Pompe patterns, shorter

2007-01-30 Thread Dmt11home
In a message dated 1/30/2007 11:15:48 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I personally don't have (at this time) much interest in recreating authentic lace for SCA. I am probably not entitled to an opinion on this subject because I am actually a staffer of the IOLI

Re: [lace] Le Pompe patterns, shorter

2007-01-30 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Ellen On 30 Jan 2007, at 05:06, Ellen Winnie wrote: Most modern metallic threads just don't work. Most modern metallic threads have no metal in them, and are too fine in diameter. Most modern metallic threads are made from polyester coated aluminium foil. Aluminium *IS* metal. I do

[lace] Le Pompe patterns

2007-01-30 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
I find these old patterns delightful, and plan to do some - when I get other projects finished!! On Saturday I bought the Brigitte Bellon book on BL Reticella. Some of the patterns will be able to be worked on my little travel roller pillow, and I can even do some of them in NL! As the book

[lace] Le Pompe patterns, very long again

2007-01-30 Thread Tamara P Duvall
On Jan 30, 2007, at 0:06, Ellen Winnie wrote: This subject is dragging me out of lurk mode ;-) Always happy to be of service :) Glad you did; new voices are always welcome -- and interesting I have worked some of the Le Pompe patterns and I would never work from the woodcut. I don't

[lace] Le Pompe patterns, part 1, long

2007-01-29 Thread Tamara P Duvall
On Jan 28, 2007, at 22:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Orla) wrote: Yep, it came from Le Pompe (pattern B on page 17). That's Le Pompe Book I, BTW, for those who have the Levey/Payne version of Le Pompe that Jeri wrote about. While Levey/Payne reproduced all the woodcuts from book I and only

[lace] Le Pompe patterns, shorter

2007-01-29 Thread Tamara P Duvall
To go back to Orla's original posting: It looks like it's about 20 pairs of bobbins and is made of Kreinik cord - which has become my favorite thing to use for metallics. The biggest pain for it is that there are sewings all over the place. Every vertical line in the footside requres sewings

Re: [lace] Le Pompe patterns, shorter

2007-01-29 Thread Ellen Winnie
This subject is dragging me out of lurk mode ;-) I have been working almost exclusively with pre-1600 laces, and I agree with Tamara that there are no or very few sewings. With the heavier threads used for many of those laces, sewings would just be too bulky. I have worked some of the Le

Re: [lace] Le Pompe patterns, shorter

2007-01-29 Thread Alice Howell
--- Tamara P Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, my question is this: How much interest is there, *among the IOLI members*, in reproductions of old plaited laces It is very interesting to read about this right now. I just got an email from a person writing a novel that includes a