RE: [lace] Miss Channer's mat

2003-08-29 Thread Ruth Budge
I have a copy of the original book - published by Methuen Co, 36 Essex Street, W.C., London in 1900. However, the mat does not appear in that book. A photo of it appears in In the Cause of English Lace, which was published by Ruth Bean in 1991. The mat was designed by Miss Channer, but the

Re: [lace] The Mat Controversy

2003-08-29 Thread Pene Piip
Adele wrote: (By the way, the Australian and Canadian legislation is that copyright ends 50 years after the end of the year in which the creator died, so The Mat was copyright-free at the beginning of 2000) Then why don't the Australian Lace Guild a Canadian lace guild republish the pattern for

[lace] Re: I forgot to mention...Milanese workshop

2003-08-29 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Thursday, Aug 28, 2003, at 10:21 US/Eastern, Celtic Dream Weaver (Sherry) wrote: I will be in Ithaca,New York and will be taking the Milanese Workshop Sat-Monday. [...] Is there anyone else on the list that will be in this workshop too... *Not* the same workshop, but I got into the

[lace] Copyright -- again :)

2003-08-29 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Thursday, Aug 28, 2003, at 10:25 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Devon)wrote: I had the interesting experience of writing an article for the IOL Bulletin and later receiving a request to translate it into German for publication in a German Lace Mag. I had no idea what the legal status of

[lace] Re: copyright and copying magazines

2003-08-29 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
Sorry for the PS; ought to have included it with my previous, long, message... On Thursday, Aug 28, 2003, at 15:07 US/Eastern, Jane Partridge wrote: As I understand it - in terms of British copyright, anyway, in this sort of case the author/designer holds copyright to the article/pattern but

[lace] RE: Channer's Mat-boring-challenging etc

2003-08-29 Thread Ian Chelle Long
Gidday Vivienne and all, the people on this soap box have never seen the mat, second it is quite boring, third they couldn't do it and finally the only thing that excites people is the number of bobbins! As someone planning to make Miss Marple's Bathmat very soon (VBG) I have to disagree. Of

[lace] challange

2003-08-29 Thread Diana Smith
I can only agree with, I think it was, ?Aurelia who said why not take a look at the Sivewright/Pope book published by Springetts which includes some really beautiful 'fine' Bucks, which the Channer mat is not unless it is reduced considerably, when I made it 10 years ago I used a Mimosa 60 thread

Re: [lace] Copyright -- again :)

2003-08-29 Thread Clive and Betty Ann Rice
Tamara, You do have a way with wordsAnd, we're going to miss you at Sweet Briar in October... B.A. Tamara P. Duvall wrote: -- her customers didn't know a URL from a U-Haul... I finally said that I wasn't ready to enter the tax quagmire for the cut I might be expected to get, and she gave

Re: [lace] Copyright -- again :)

2003-08-29 Thread palmhaven
You are right, Tamara, I don't think the name has a ring I would want to be associated with. Besides there can't be that many legal questions to lace. Your reasoning is sound about the tax quagmire. It is not worth it. Unless you can show a profit every five years it is considered a hobby

[lace] confused about thread

2003-08-29 Thread Whitham
Hello lacemakers, I have a few questions about thread. I found a pattern that I want to do, it is a pattern by Karen Trend Nissen. On the pattern it has a note: 24 par tr. nr. 80/3 B. I think it means 24 pairs, thread # 80/3 Bomuld (cotton). Is this correct? Could anyone please tell me what

Re: [lace] Niven Flanders Pattern 11 Observation and Question

2003-08-29 Thread Lorelei Halley
Marcie I haven't got that far in Niven yet, but I looked at the book. What I would do is just omit one of the dots on the pricking, and just treat it as a printing press stutter. That seems the simplest solution. Treating it as a two point exchange would require a ring pair, which there isn't.

[lace] Fall weekend/lace day at Sweet Briar

2003-08-29 Thread Clay Blackwell
Hi Spiders! As many of you heard while you were at IOLI, a wonderful new resource for lacemakers and lace historians is being established at Sweet Briar College in Virginia. The J. Margaret Barber-Jane Connin Lace Study Collection is going to be joining the Sweet Briar Collection this weekend,

RE: [lace] confused about thread

2003-08-29 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Whitham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I went to my thread collection and found linen Goldchilds Nel 80/3, Nm 50/3, which at first I thought I could use until I decided that the B meant bomuld (cotton). Now I am really confused. Why the 2 numbers on the thread? Are linen and cotton threads

Re: [lace] Miss Channer's Mat URL

2003-08-29 Thread Viv Dewar
I've just had another look and, 1) Gosh it looks hard 2) I know exactly what Tamara means 3) -most important Has anyone made a pattern I can beg, or borrow but not steal of the dolphin-over-bobbin motif? Viv - Original Message - From: Patricia Dowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

[lace] just wanted to say hello again

2003-08-29 Thread susan
i have been away at navy bootcamp, so i havn't been able to check my emails. forgot to unsubscribe before i left, and just found about 1000 email messages in my email. oh well! hope everyone is doing great, and i hope to find some nice lace shops in florida where i'll be going for school. if

[lace] dolphin

2003-08-29 Thread Barron
3) -most important Has anyone made a pattern I can beg, or borrow but not steal of the dolphin-over-bobbin motif? Viv Could replies be posted to the list, the dolphin leaping over a midland bobbin is the emblem of my lace group (Moray Lacemakers) and I'd love to make the emblem in lace but

[lace] Dolphin and bobbin

2003-08-29 Thread Jean Nathan
Jenny wrote: Could replies be posted to the list, the dolphin leaping over a midland bobbin is the emblem of my lace group (Moray Lacemakers) Is there some significance in the relationship between the dolphin and bobbin lacemaking? I ask because the emblem for Poole Bobbin Lace Circle is a

[lace] Pompi Parry

2003-08-29 Thread Diane Williams
Does anyone have an email address for Pompi Parry or can ask her to reply to me? I have a question about some of the photos in her book about the history of Downton Lace. Thank you! = Diane Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galena Illinois USA __ Do you Yahoo!?

Re: [lace] Niven Flanders Pattern 11 Observation and Question

2003-08-29 Thread Steph Peters
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:48:52 -0400, Marcie wrote: I have begun the process of turning the pricking for Pattern 11 in Niven's Flanders Lace book (pgs. 52 - 53 in the new edition) into a rectangular mat and have been going over the diagram vs. my semi-finished product. While I was at it I noticed

Re: [lace] Copyright -- again :)

2003-08-29 Thread Joy Beeson
At 01:23 AM 8/29/03 -0400, Tamara P. Duvall wrote: In many-messages-ago, Clay asked how one could possibly measure the 15-20% of skew, when it came to an original (artistic) design... You don't. If I change it X%, then it's mine is one of the most-persistent of the myths listed at

Re: [lace] Copyright -- again :)

2003-08-29 Thread Patsy A. Goodman
This reminds me of something my husband used to say to me when I used to say well, at least it keeps me out of the bars. He would always reply I wish you'd go to the bar, at least someone might buy you a drink, when was the last time someone bought you some thread or bobbins. LOL Patsy A.

RE: [lace] Dolphin and bobbin

2003-08-29 Thread Patricia Dowden
. . . I think we chose well, dolphins are beautiful, do a lot of talking and can be stroppy! jenny barron Scotland Oh Jenny, I am delighted. Please tell us what 'stroppy' means. Patty Dowden - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL

[lace] FYI: So. CAL Bobbin lace class

2003-08-29 Thread Jean Nathan
YSandra wrote: Fee is right (depending on age $10.00 or $20.00 for the younger under 50 crowd- sometimes it pays to be older). Is that typical of the cost of lacemaking classes run by school districts in the adult education department? Through adult education, I've got a choice of a 2 hour x 24

[lace] Stroppy

2003-08-29 Thread Jean Nathan
I always understood 'stroppy' to be short for obstreperous, which means turbulent or unruly, but my dictionary says it's origin is unknown, and that it means bad tempered or awkward to deal with (which means the same thing as obstreperous). Jean in Poole - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL

[lace] RE: lace classes

2003-08-29 Thread Barbara Filippone
The price for the adult school lace class being discussed is typical of California classes. Clearly it is well under-priced for the value. I have been in this class for a few years. The teacher is incredible and we have 25-30 students every week. Many of the students are very experienced

Re: [lace] Copyright -- again :)

2003-08-29 Thread palmhaven
Joy, one should never quote themselves. The skew, using your words is a factual question and would go to a jury. Whether Buck's pricking of the Channer Mat is even copyrightable by Bean or Buck is a thorny legal question, since Channer had published the mat previously and it was already in the

[lace-chat] Re: photo

2003-08-29 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Thursday, Aug 28, 2003, at 09:12 US/Eastern, Sof wrote: Just funny : http://www.anniecicatelli.com/liens.htm As my knowledge of French is limited to the word merde, I used it... g Could you please enlighten me (and other morons like me) as to what the caption says? And is it, could it be,

[lace-chat] :) Fwd: The Clinton bashing continues....but this one did make me smile!

2003-08-29 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
From: A.N. When Bill and Hillary first got married, Bill said, I am putting a box under the bed. You must promise never to look in it. In all their 30 years of marriage Hillary never looked. However, on the afternoon of their 30th Anniversary, curiosity got the best of her. She lifted the lid

Re: [lace-chat] Re: photo

2003-08-29 Thread Margot Walker
Above the photo, it says 'Links'. Below it says 'Seen on the net'. Looks like Prince Charles to me. On Thursday, August 28, 2003, at 09:38 PM, Tamara P. Duvall wrote: http://www.anniecicatelli.com/liens.htm As my knowledge of French is limited to the word merde, I used it... g Could you

[lace-chat] :) Fwd: Songs of the 60s.

2003-08-29 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
From: R.P. The old folks here will be happy to know that some of the artists from the 60's are re-releasing their hits with new lyrics to accommodate our advancing age: Led Zeppelin - Chair Lift to Heaven AC/DC - Whole Lotta Rolaids Joe Walsh - My Maserati does 185, I lost my vision and now I

[lace-chat] :) Fwd: top News stories 2035

2003-08-29 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
From: R.P. 1. Castro finally dies at age 112; Cuban cigars can now be imported legally, but President Chelsea Clinton has banned all smoking. 2. Last remaining Fundamentalist Muslim dies in the American Territory of the Middle East (formerly known as Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon). 3.

[lace-chat] *Beyond* the Wonderland and the Looking Glass...

2003-08-29 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
Gentle Spiders, There's nothing I like better than manifestations of the absurd and the bizarre in *real life*; they're the chuckles that give my face character instead of old-age wrinkles Growing up in the communist system provided me with an almost daily dose of those, but living in the

[lace-chat] hello to everyone on lace chat again

2003-08-29 Thread susan
i have been away at boot camp, and i wasn't able to read or write any emails until now. i just found about a 1000 emails in my mail today, and i realized i didn't unsubscribe before i left. i wish i had time to read them, but i couldn't even skim over them there were so many. i hope you are all

[lace-chat] Re: Suggestions for linens in 1949

2003-08-29 Thread Louise Hume
Am way behind in reading lace chat, but felt need to respond. Some of my visitors will -- after a single night at the Hotel Duvall -- make up the bed, to make it look like it's fresh; I was taught proper guest etiquette required one to make up bed each morning one was a guest, until last day,