Re: [lace] Linen thread

2020-11-02 Thread lynrbailey
Dear Sue et al, This has been discussed already on Arachne several years ago. I am one who is patiently waiting to make my Tonder lace in linen. Alex Stillwell told me it was due to the fact that linen thread is now made exclusively by machine, and those machines won't accept the very long fib

Re: [lace] Linen thread

2020-11-02 Thread LacySuzette
Thanks for weighing in on this issue Brenda! I’ve annotated my Threads for Lace accordingly. My search has identified all kinds of linen threads/yarns that I’d never heard of. Most of them are heavier weight to please the knitters & book binders. BUT, perhaps I’ve hit a nerve here. Lacemakers a

Re: [lace] Linen thread

2020-11-02 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Knox’s and J Harris & Sons were discontinued many years ago, as were DMC linen threads and the finer C&F. I thought that the best chance of still getting a fine linen thread would be from Bart and Francis, but their 130/2 isn’t showing on their website. Several years ago they were looking at

Re: [lace] Linen thread

2020-11-01 Thread lynrbailey
Pulling out my Paternoster/6, I see the following linen threads are in range:Bart & Francis 130/2, 34wpc; Bouc 110, 37wpc and 140, 46wpc; C&F 120, 37 wpc, 140, 46wpc; DMC Lin Floche150, 40wpc; DMC Lin pour Dentelles, 70, 40wpc; Fresia 140/2, 36wpc; J Harris & Sons Pure Flax Lace Thread 140, 44wp

Re: [lace] Linen thread

2020-11-01 Thread LacySuzette
To follow up—apparently Bockens has discontinued 120/2 linen (34wcm) so Holly is offering Fil au Chinois, 1500m. Seems like a 3 lifetime supply plus I was aiming for a slightly finer thread. I’ve been working with YLI Fine metallics (39wcm) on a 3mm isometric grid. It’s a good fit for that scal

Re: [lace] Linen thread

2020-11-01 Thread Sue Babbs
Doesn't anyone in the US stock Moravia linen any more? That's sad! https://www.kloeppelshop.de/en/Yarn-Wire/Linen-Yarn/Moravia/Moravia-Linen-Yarn-Colored-NeL-40-2.html Sue suebabbs...@gmail.com -- Original Message -- From: "LacySuzette" To: "Arachne" Sent: 11/1/2020 1:22:44 PM Subject

Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

2016-11-14 Thread Lin Hudren
i live in the desert in southern Nevada USA and at the most humid we get to about 45%. we only get 12" of rain each year (mostly within two months). storing threads like linen (and cotton) is a challenge so i mostly use silk and when i need the others, i only order what i need so i don't have to

Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

2016-11-14 Thread Brenda Paternoster
That’s a lot dryer than UK - we are 70%-90% relative humidity. A fine mist of water into the atmosphere around the cabinet, not directly onto the linen, from time to time should help especially in the drier/summer months. Acid free tape and an acid free marker sound fine to me. Brenda > On 14

Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

2016-11-14 Thread Tregellas Family
Hi Joseph, As you know I live in Adelaide and we have an extremely dry climate with quite low humidity. This is fatal when using linen threads in our summer as they tend to just disintegrate very quickly. I refrain from using linen threads during our summer months. Cheers, Shirley T. -

Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

2016-11-14 Thread Joseph Young
I live in South Australia. We dont live in the desert, we have an average humidity of 35-55%. I wouldnt know how to rate that as dry or mildly damp. I have a small cabinet that has a mesh front, and a couple of shelves. It will fit in the bathroom. I will make some trays to put the thread in. H

Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

2016-11-14 Thread Brenda Paternoster
> We live in a single story house, with no attic or basement. > > What is the best way to keep moisture in the thread? Is there a device that i > can keep with the thread when it has been property prepared for storage? > > At my last resort, i can put a small cabinet in the bathroom too keep the >

Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

2016-11-13 Thread Joseph Young
Thanks for your reply. I am looking at buying Freesia Linen and Bocken's Linen, I am open to any recommendations for other linen threads. We live in a single story house, with no attic or basement. What is the best way to keep moisture in the thread? Is there a device that i can keep with the th

Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

2016-11-09 Thread Jeriames
Dear Joseph, A couple years ago, I heard from someone with a museum lace collection that they had determined that some varieties of Acid Free tissue were drying. And so, they were changing their procedures. Perhaps Devon can share some light on the subject. The other thing to consider i

Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

2016-11-09 Thread Joseph Young
Thank you Brenda, We don't live in a centrally heated house, so that's not a problem. I can install a small ventilated cabinet in the bathroom if need be. I was more thinking about some sort of humidor. I have some Acid-Free tissue on order at the moment. Thanks again. -- Regards, Joseph "T

Re: [lace] Linen Thread Storage

2016-11-09 Thread Brenda Paternoster
> > I would like to start buying some linen thread as i really like the texture and the while concept of a fiber that you can grow (other than cotton and the likes). I do know that linen threads store really well, but are difficult to store. Like any textile fibre linen is best stored in the dark.

Re: [lace] Linen thread

2016-10-18 Thread Brenda Paternoster
> I seem to remember many years ago reading that the cultivars of flax that made the finest threads were deliberately destroyed during the French Revolution, along with any saved seeds. However, all may not be lost! Flax is a diploid plant with perfect flowers, an inbreeding system, and an annual h

Re: [lace] Linen Thread

2016-10-18 Thread Brenda Paternoster
>> The size of >> the linen is size 50, 60, and 70. The brand is Campbell' s made in Ireland. >> What type of lace would you recommend for this linen I also acquired a few >> skeins of linen years ago 6 skeins size 60 thread W. J. Knox LTP LC on the >> label and 3 size 20 with the same maker. Wh

Re: [lace] Linen thread as it was before World War I

2016-10-17 Thread catherinebar...@btinternet.com
Sent from my iPad Catherine Barley Needlelace www.catherinebarley.com > On 17 Oct 2016, at 16:23, Jeriames@AOL. > > Thank you Jeri for once again taking the time and trouble to post a lengthy > email full of interesting history about lace related facts. I'm sure that > many of us who complai

Re: [lace] Linen thread as it was before World War I

2016-10-17 Thread Jeriames
Original October 16 question: Hello All! May I ask what brand linen thread you are using & why? I'm a bit steamed to find big hunks of lint stuck in 90/2 linen thread & unsure of whether to pick it out & risk breaking the thread or cutting it out & adding a new bobbin. While I realize th

Re: [lace] Linen thread

2016-10-17 Thread Clay Blackwell
I have seen many fine old Binche pieces in the German Lace Guild's museum, and the threads were extremely fine. Even a tiny slub would have affected the quality of the lace! In the old flax, not only were the fibers much finer, but they were also much longer, so that allowed fine threads which

Re: [lace] Linen thread

2016-10-17 Thread Clay Blackwell
My perspective is that there a variety of qualities of linen that give us multiple options when planning a project. Some threads are fairly smooth, and others have lots of slubs. The art of matching the thread to the design is part of the fun! Clay Sent from my iPad > On Oct 16, 2016, at 2:

Re: [lace] Linen thread

2016-10-17 Thread Jean Leader
On 17 Oct 2016, at 09:12, Kathleen Harris wrote: > They told me that the old varieties of flax, which were used to produce linen > thread fine enough to make, for instance, Binche lace, have been lost. > Today's flax varieties just do not have fine enough fibres. I have heard that too, but won

Re: [lace] Linen thread

2016-10-17 Thread Kathleen Harris
I have spun flax into linen thread, fine enough to make lace, but only just! I made a small owl with it (Gill Dye's design?). I have discussed linen thread with tutors from the Kantcentrum in Bruges. They told me that the old varieties of flax, which were used to produce linen thread fine enough

Re: [lace] Linen thread

2016-10-16 Thread lacel...@frontier.com
Not all brands of linen are the same.  I used Fresia brand linen in the tablecloth I finished this year.  It was quite smooth.  The few slubs were far apart.  I think the Fresia thread was made for lacemaking.  The linen that is full of slubs was probably made for weaving, and the slubs were i

Re: [lace] Linen thread

2016-10-16 Thread Susan
Thank you Adele! I particularly appreciate your reference to linen clothing as there as some very fine linen clothes out there. Beautiful to wear & launder--& they last for years. Others are unsuitable for much of anything & they don't last long even on delicate cycle! So It seems that finel

Re: [lace] Linen thread

2016-10-16 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Susan: True story - in London the mid-1960s, linen manufacturers worked and worked to get the slubs (that’s what those big hunks of lint are called) out of the linen thread used to make fabric, because people wanted smooth linen for high-quality dressmaking. Then the 60s fashion revolution h

Re: [lace] Linen thread and winter

2014-01-25 Thread Dmt11home
My first teacher advised taking a paper towel, wetting it, wringing it out and sort of arranging it in a three dimensional shape with lots of surfaces, under the cover cloth which is held up with pins. This creates sort of a vapor chamber that is not air tight and that does not have the dam

Re: [lace] Linen thread and winter

2014-01-25 Thread Clay Blackwell
Hi Lynn... Years ago, there was an extensive series of discussions about this issue. Our Polar Vortex has really affected the threads with which we work! You are right to add moisture to your threads when the humidity is so low in our heated homes. As I recall, the collective advice was to

Re: [lace] Linen thread questions cross post

2011-09-08 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hi Sherry Knox was a leading manufacturer of lace thread until sometime mid 20th century, so if your thread is still in good condition and hasn't dried out and become week you can use it for bobbinlace. Size 20 measures 18 wraps/cm and between Perle 8 and Perle 12 in thickness. You need a (to

Re: [lace] linen thread on ebay

2005-09-20 Thread Brenda Paternoster
ds to the pound... It was a single ply. This is the one I was curious about! Clay -Original Message- From: Brenda Paternoster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sep 18, 2005 6:34 PM To: Clay Blackwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Jenny Brandis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, lace@arachne.com Su

Re: [lace] linen thread on ebay

2005-09-18 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Clay None of these are particularly fine; even the 30 lea would only compare to NeL 60/2, about 24 or 25 wraps/cm and the two thicker ones are stated to be tow linen and therefore pretty slubby. Linen tow is all the bits and pieces left over after the best fibres have been used - rathe

RE: [lace] linen thread on ebay

2005-09-18 Thread Clay Blackwell
With our talk about the books by Brenda Paternoster and Martina Wolter-Kampmann still fresh in our minds, it's interesting to see these cones of linen on eBay. It looks like the cones were manufactured for millwork - surely lacemakers would not have ordinarily bought so much at one time, and excep