Am 28.02.2012 08:14, schrieb Michael Schnell:
On 02/28/2012 12:00 AM, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
a stable D7 compatible version/branch is required,
IMHO a compiler switch (Lazarus Project menu option) should be provided
(D7 compatibility or non-Unicode or something like this)
There are
Am 28.02.2012 08:22, schrieb Michael Schnell:
On 02/27/2012 09:51 PM, Martin Schreiber wrote:
A side mark: I don't think using the old ansistring as combined binary
and character buffer is such a bad thing.
+ 1/2
It would be better to have a type that 1:1 allows for all the well known
Am 27.02.2012 21:02, schrieb Marco van de Voort:
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 02:53:21PM +0100, Sven Barth wrote:
http://rpmfind.net/
Found 157 RPM for fpc
Found 3 RPM for gpc (all of them in very old Mandriva versions)
You can't even find GPC packages in newer distributions.
See also:
Am 28.02.2012 01:31, schrieb Ing. Héctor F. Fiandor Rosario:
Dear colleagues:
i have used por many years the upx for compact the executable files.
Really, it have worked pretty well.
today, i have tried to compact an executable but i have obtained a nom
good result.
previously i have used the
On 28-2-2012 9:43, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
But summing up, more then yet another discussion on this topic, what
really helps is contributions. If you think that Pascal needs better
support for the Internet, well, then just write some tutorials about
fpweb, write a usage statistics
Well, i think all pascal developers should do something about it and, all
the fpc/lazarus team is doing a wonderfull work!
William de Oliveira Ferreira
Bacharel em Sistemas de Informação
2012/2/28 Graeme Geldenhuys graemeg.li...@gmail.com
I believe that is a
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys
graemeg.li...@gmail.com wrote:
I believe that is a lost cause, because Pascal doesn't exist, or
Pascal is just uncool. :-(
I think not necessarely. Last year I complained a bit and they were
quite open about it, and apparently they changed
От: Lukasz Sokol
Относно: Re: [Lazarus] Why the Java became so strong?
До: lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org
Изпратено на: Вторник, 2012, Февруари 28 11:08:16 EET
On 27/02/2012 11:49, Rigel Rigel wrote:
[snip]
Sorry for cutting all of this out, but [to the OP]:
As you can see
i've installed the editortoolbar0.4 and configured it but i wanna change
the toolbar's buttons glyph to what they mean. How can i do?
my toolbar looks like this:
http://imagebin.org/201188
and on it i have a cut/copy/paste button, toggle comment on selection,
etc...
Thanks for answers, but you know when you begin with Web programing. Before
anything was written in other languages and will be difficult to change
people's understanding. Which mobile devices are the bes for Lazarus programing?
And after Lukasz Sokol blame me for troll no sense to
I know the mailing list is the standard today, in many places not just
here. But is unclear in his lack of formated data, maybe something like the
bug tracker to discuss inprovements in which that info like the one you
just sended about the TLabel and FocusControl could be added as notes.
Would be
My company also tried (and abandoned) Kylix:
http://port2laz.blogspot.com/2005/12/from-clx-to-vcl.html
2012/2/28 zeljko zel...@holobit.net
**
On Tuesday 28 of February 2012 08:23:35 Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
I'm not saying Kylix 3 is still a booming product (it isn't), I'm just
saying
On 02/28/2012 10:24 AM, Sven Barth wrote:
Am 28.02.2012 08:22, schrieb Michael Schnell:
In my projects I usually do something like Type ByteString =
AnsiString for a future migration :) .
type
TByteArray = array of Byte;
???
array of Byte AnsiString.
You can't do +, there is not
Same here.
Kylix had a great debugger, something that still doesnt work nice in
Lazarus, but other than that Lazarus is exceptional and the support is
very good. Try to get any support out of Borland and their successors.
Even earlier years before Delphi, they failed to fix RT-200 for pentium
Am 28.02.2012 14:00, schrieb Michael Schnell:
On 02/28/2012 10:24 AM, Sven Barth wrote:
Am 28.02.2012 08:22, schrieb Michael Schnell:
In my projects I usually do something like Type ByteString =
AnsiString for a future migration :) .
type
TByteArray = array of Byte;
???
array of Byte
On 02/28/2012 02:13 PM, Sven Barth wrote:
Did you even look at my code?
Sorry, I did not want to be rude, but I understand that this is in fact
_your_ code and not supplied by the RTL which is what this part of the
discussion was about.
Thanks anyway,
-Michael
--
Am Montag, den 27.02.2012, 10:13 +0100 schrieb Sven Barth:
Am 27.02.2012 10:03, schrieb Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho:
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
felipemonteiro.carva...@gmail.com wrote:
Here is the website of the FreeX magazine:
On 28/02/2012 12:11, Rigel R. wrote:
I do not understand why insulting me. Maybe because you are stupid
and do not understand what I write? All described applications using
CGI or others languages who are not written in Pascal. Now you
understand or you need more explanations? If so, read the
My intend in start this thread was in order to make visible the potential
of the FPC/Lazarus, that i believe is more than Java.
2012/2/28 Lukasz Sokol el.es...@gmail.com
On 28/02/2012 12:11, Rigel R. wrote:
I do not understand why insulting me. Maybe because you are stupid
and do not
2012/2/28 Everton Vieira tonvie...@gmail.com
I know the mailing list is the standard today, in many places not just
here. But is unclear in his lack of formated data, maybe something like the
bug tracker to discuss inprovements in which that info like the one you
just sended about the TLabel
On 28/02/2012 15:01, John Repucci wrote:
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:53:38 +0100
From: Bart bartjun...@gmail.com mailto:bartjun...@gmail.com
Subject: [Lazarus] SourceEditor: strange gap on right hand side
To: Lazarus mailing list lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org
Sven Barth schrieb:
Before Delphi 2009 you might have been right, but with that version
Embarcadero did a cut and we now need to adapt and live with that.
I dare to disagree. A ByteString only requires a dedicated encoding
(value), which makes it incompatible with other encodings, and thus
Am 28.02.2012 16:15, schrieb Martin:
On 28/02/2012 15:11, Sven Barth wrote:
Am 28.02.2012 15:53, schrieb Bart:
Hi,
After upgrading from r34833 to r35612 I noticed that the SourceEditor
now had a strange gap on the right hand side, see attached
screenshot.
Anybody knwos what it is, or why it
Il 28/02/2012 16:01, Hans-Peter Diettrich ha scritto:
Yes, much time is spent on the *code*, on mass instead of quality.
No, the *documentation* is in an horrible state.
Every possible user will need some documentation, before he starts to
write code. As he doesn't find such documentation,
Am 28.02.2012 16:13, schrieb Sven Barth:
Am 28.02.2012 15:40, schrieb Hans-Peter Diettrich:
Sven Barth schrieb:
Before Delphi 2009 you might have been right, but with that version
Embarcadero did a cut and we now need to adapt and live with that.
I dare to disagree. A ByteString only
Am Dienstag, den 28.02.2012, 16:01 +0100 schrieb Hans-Peter Diettrich:
William Oliveira Ferreira schrieb:
Well, i think all pascal developers should do something about it and,
all the fpc/lazarus team is doing a wonderfull work!
+-1
Yes, much time is spent on the *code*, on mass
Am 28.02.2012 15:31, schrieb Martin Schreiber:
Am 28.02.2012 16:13, schrieb Sven Barth:
Am 28.02.2012 15:40, schrieb Hans-Peter Diettrich:
Sven Barth schrieb:
Before Delphi 2009 you might have been right, but with that version
Embarcadero did a cut and we now need to adapt and live with
On 2/28/12, Sven Barth pascaldra...@googlemail.com wrote:
Yay!!! The overview gutter is finally here by default :D
Make some changes in the file, save it, make more changes and place some
breakpoints.
I can see little green squared dots when I change a line, but they do
not appear at/near
Am 28.02.2012 16:52, schrieb Sven Barth:
Did you look at the 2.7.1 or 2.6.0 implementation of these procs? If the
2.6.0 one then I suggest you to look at the 2.7.1 ones and reconsider
your statement ;)
True. :-)
Do you think 2.7.1 FPC string handling is an improvement compared with
FPC
Am 28.02.2012 16:53, schrieb Bart:
On 2/28/12, Sven Barthpascaldra...@googlemail.com wrote:
Yay!!! The overview gutter is finally here by default :D
Make some changes in the file, save it, make more changes and place some
breakpoints.
I can see little green squared dots when I change a
Am 28.02.2012 16:09, schrieb Martin Schreiber:
Am 28.02.2012 16:52, schrieb Sven Barth:
Did you look at the 2.7.1 or 2.6.0 implementation of these procs? If the
2.6.0 one then I suggest you to look at the 2.7.1 ones and reconsider
your statement ;)
True. :-)
Do you think 2.7.1 FPC string
Am 28.02.2012 17:25, schrieb William Oliveira Ferreira:
sometimes all lazarus' users wanna see core team do something that
themselves can
Thank you for speaking that out aloud :)
writing a basic article of how to compile a basic application, how
compiler directives affects the way fpc manage
That's just the way i understand the meaning of community and opensource
projects: Everyone helping with what they can (if they want), not just a
little group...
Today, i simply can't get the lazarus' source and solve a bug because i
have a limted knowledge of how it works internally but i can
Am Dienstag, den 28.02.2012, 13:25 -0300 schrieb William Oliveira
Ferreira:
sometimes all lazarus' users wanna see core team do something that
themselves can
I absolutely agree with you. Because I do I'd like to ask you to do two
things:
1. Please answer to the mail you're referring to - which
I'm always looking for ways of more participation and, please, believe me,
today is not clear. If you work on a company, by example, embarcadero, is
very clear the way the work is done. There's a very well knew structure of
how that happens. Here, i'm on a small company making software and the
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 08:35:55AM +0100, Michael Schnell wrote:
dead,
They (unfortunately) did not follow FPC on the path to Object Pascal
(Delphi and Apple style). If FPC programs could be compiled using gcc,
we could port Lazarus / FPC programs to any CPU architecture.
More likely, we
Since yesterday I have problems compiling Lazarus with FPC trunk.
Regards, Darius
Compiling .widgetsetwsgrids.pp
dbgrids.pas(1991,31)
Error: Incompatible types: got Pointer expected
AnsiString
dbgrids.pas(3828,54) Error: Incompatible type for arg no.
1: Got Pointer, expected AnsiString
2012/2/28 Marc Santhoff m.santh...@web.de
2. Do not top post, instead try to reply inline, so anyone can
understand, what part of the mail you are talking about.
Sorry about that. I do it 'cos gMail do it automatically and i just follow,
but i'll try to stop...
--
I understand what you want to help but i don't think it's too hard as i
understand how. Exaclty how you wanna help? As i can see, if you found a
bug and solved it in your pc, you can submit a patch generated by a svn
tool in bugtracker. If you wanna enter in the core staff, well, the current
staff
On 2/28/12 12:27 PM, Everton Vieira wrote:
I'm always looking for ways of more participation and, please, believe
me, today is not clear. If you work on a company, by example,
embarcadero, is very clear the way the work is done. There's a very
well knew structure of how that happens. Here, i'm
I'll try once more to tell on what i'm refering: project managemant of the
development. All that i have to say about it is in that. Who some day had
worked with project management and has the insight of how could be done in
the open source enviroment knows on what i'm talking about it.
2012/2/28
Hi again,
since there were multiple complaints about missing documentation, where
can I find a list of what is missing exactly in detail?
Is there a wiki page about it? Or a docs page collecting empty
descriptions or the like?
Sometimes I'm bored, maybe there are items I'm able to add
a couple
Sven Barth wrote:
Am 28.02.2012 16:53, schrieb Bart:
On 2/28/12, Sven Barthpascaldra...@googlemail.com wrote:
Yay!!! The overview gutter is finally here by default :D
Make some changes in the file, save it, make more changes and place some
breakpoints.
I can see little green squared dots
Am Dienstag, den 28.02.2012, 13:23 -0500 schrieb Rich Saunders:
Today, i simply can't get the lazarus' source and solve a bug
because i have a limted knowledge of how it works internally but
i
can submit bugs on mantis, that's a way that i can help. On my
environment, with
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 19:43:48 +0100
Marc Santhoff m.santh...@web.de wrote:
Hi again,
since there were multiple complaints about missing documentation, where
can I find a list of what is missing exactly in detail?
Is there a wiki page about it? Or a docs page collecting empty
descriptions
On 28/02/2012 18:50, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Sven Barth wrote:
As said it presents a complete overview of the current file to you.
You see where you changed something (yellow and green like on the
left) and where you put breakpoints. In the future there might be
icons to indicate compilation
2012/2/28 Everton Vieira tonvie...@gmail.com
I'll try once more to tell on what i'm refering: project managemant of
the development. All that i have to say about it is in that. Who some day
had worked with project management and has the insight of how could be done
in the open source
On 28/02/2012 19:42, Martin wrote:
On 28/02/2012 18:50, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Sven Barth wrote:
As said it presents a complete overview of the current file to you.
You see where you changed something (yellow and green like on the
left) and where you put breakpoints. In the future there
I create a new thread because this is not related to the original Why Java
got popular thread...
2012/2/28 Everton Vieira tonvie...@gmail.com
I'll try once more to tell on what i'm refering: project managemant of
the development. All that i have to say about it is in that. Who some day
had
The bug tracker works perfectly for the bugs, i would only suggest to make
a front-end in the IDE in order to make him more visible, or at least by
start a simple link in the help menu of the IDE would be enough. This is a
patch so small and simple that i'm even with shame to do it :p.
2012/2/28
On 2/28/12 2:53 PM, Juha Manninen wrote:
2012/2/28 Everton Vieira tonvie...@gmail.com
mailto:tonvie...@gmail.com
I'll try once more to tell on what i'm refering: project
managemant of the development. All that i have to say about it is
in that. Who some day had worked with
On 28/02/2012 20:04, Rich Saunders wrote:
As a newcomer I would like to see on the web site a team organization
chart. The current contributors would appear in the roles they
currently play. Open positions would be identified with links to pages
where you can find out more about what is
About the documentation i had the idea of make centralized data help that
could generate the off-line as well the on-line help versions. And to
elegantly show the contributor who did the examples and so on.
2012/2/28 Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com
I create a new thread because this is
2012/2/28 Everton Vieira tonvie...@gmail.com
The bug tracker works perfectly for the bugs, i would only suggest to make
a front-end in the IDE in order to make him more visible, or at least by
start a simple link in the help menu of the IDE would be enough. This is a
patch so small and simple
On 2/28/12 2:53 PM, Juha Manninen wrote:
2012/2/28 Everton Vieira tonvie...@gmail.com
mailto:tonvie...@gmail.com
I'll try once more to tell on what i'm refering: project
managemant of the development. All that i have to say about it is
in that. Who some day had worked with
About the project management is something like the bug tracker but not for
bugs. With all that richness that has a project management: projects,
teams, head members, status of it, code already done, code to be
done, ideas about it, discussions on, notes from everyone, and so on.
2012/2/28 Juha
Op 28 februari 2012 21:01 heeft Everton Vieira tonvie...@gmail.com
het volgende geschreven:
The bug tracker works perfectly for the bugs, i would only suggest to make a
front-end in the IDE in order to make him more visible, or at least by start
a simple link in the help menu of the IDE would
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:52 PM, waldo kitty wkitt...@windstream.net wrote:
why did they reject? do they, too, think that pascal is dead?
No reason was provided.
--
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
--
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Lazarus mailing list
2012/2/28 Juha Manninen juha.mannine...@gmail.com
2012/2/28 Everton Vieira tonvie...@gmail.com
It is already there for a long time: Help - Reporting a Bug
Is true, my fall, but the idea of the front-end is still up.
You can perhaps make such front-end yourself as a contribution. :)
It is
Marc Santhoff schrieb:
since there were multiple complaints about missing documentation, where
can I find a list of what is missing exactly in detail?
Is there a wiki page about it? Or a docs page collecting empty
descriptions or the like?
You can checkout e.g. rev. 34110, and search for ?]
Marc Santhoff schrieb:
rant
If poeple would stop ranting or complaining, real work could be getting
done. Why do discussions like this end up in the same complaints any
time?
/rant
Right, the customers are the brake-shoes in every business. Simply
ignoring them will increase the in-house
Marc Santhoff schrieb:
Am Dienstag, den 28.02.2012, 16:01 +0100 schrieb Hans-Peter Diettrich:
William Oliveira Ferreira schrieb:
Well, i think all pascal developers should do something about it and,
all the fpc/lazarus team is doing a wonderfull work!
+-1
Yes, much time is spent on the
Juha Manninen schrieb:
Improving the documentation is now a hot topic. I think more people
should get write access to the doc directory in the repository, if only
there are people willing to take the effort.
IMO this is not a good idea, for several reasons:
I already removed so much crap
On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 22:17:45 +0100
Hans-Peter Diettrich drdiettri...@aol.com wrote:
Marc Santhoff schrieb:
since there were multiple complaints about missing documentation, where
can I find a list of what is missing exactly in detail?
Is there a wiki page about it? Or a docs page
2012/2/28 Everton Vieira tonvie...@gmail.com
About the project management is something like the bug tracker but not for
bugs. With all that richness that has a project management: projects,
teams, head members, status of it, code already done, code to be
done, ideas about it, discussions on,
Everton Vieira schrieb:
About the documentation i had the idea of make centralized data help
that could generate the off-line as well the on-line help versions.
What's missing from the current documentation tools?
And
to elegantly show the contributor who did the examples and so on.
Am Dienstag, den 28.02.2012, 21:56 +0100 schrieb Hans-Peter Diettrich:
Marc Santhoff schrieb:
rant
If poeple would stop ranting or complaining, real work could be getting
done. Why do discussions like this end up in the same complaints any
time?
/rant
Right, the customers are the
Mattias Gaertner schrieb:
You can checkout e.g. rev. 34110, and search for ?] in the xml files.
These are the places where I couldn't find reliable infos myself.
There were all converted to notes, were they not?
Even if so, moving a note out of its context invalidates the note.
E.g. the
Am Dienstag, den 28.02.2012, 21:45 +0100 schrieb Hans-Peter Diettrich:
Marc Santhoff schrieb:
Am Dienstag, den 28.02.2012, 16:01 +0100 schrieb Hans-Peter Diettrich:
William Oliveira Ferreira schrieb:
Well, i think all pascal developers should do something about it and,
all the
From: Hans-Peter Diettrich drdiettri...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Lazarus] Project management
Everton Vieira schrieb:
And
to elegantly show the contributor who did the examples and so on.
Right, sometimes it would be nice to know whom to ask specific questions.
DoDi
As much as I would
2012/2/28 William Oliveira Ferreira :
i've installed the editortoolbar0.4 and configured it but i wanna change the
toolbar's buttons glyph to what they mean. How can i do?
my toolbar looks like this:
http://imagebin.org/201188
and on it i have a cut/copy/paste button, toggle comment on
2012/2/28 Everton Vieira tonvie...@gmail.com
About the documentation i had the idea of make centralized data help that
could generate the off-line as well the on-line help versions. And to
elegantly show the contributor who did the examples and so on.
Again, you clearly have not studied the
Em 28/02/2012, às 21:13, Juha Manninen escreveu:
2012/2/28 Everton Vieira tonvie...@gmail.com
About the documentation i had the idea of make centralized data help that
could generate the off-line as well the on-line help versions. And to
elegantly show the contributor who did the examples
2012/2/28 Rich Saunders saunders.richar...@gmail.com
Another idea is for someone to summarize a lengthy exchange in a mailing
list. The summary would be something along the lines of: The idea of X has
been brought up and discussed at length. There appear to be 3 options for
moving forward. A
2012/2/29 John Repucci john.repu...@gmail.com
As much as I would like to get answers directly (and promptly) from the
source experts, I would prefer that the developers be allowed to focus on
development (if that is their passion). I would rather have a set of SMEs
(subject matter experts)
Em 28/02/2012, às 19:02, Juha Manninen escreveu:
2012/2/28 Everton Vieira tonvie...@gmail.com
About the project management is something like the bug tracker but not for
bugs. With all that richness that has a project management: projects, teams,
head members, status of it, code already
On 2/28/12 7:22 PM, Juha Manninen wrote:
2012/2/28 Rich Saunders saunders.richar...@gmail.com
mailto:saunders.richar...@gmail.com
Another idea is for someone to summarize a lengthy exchange in a
mailing list. The summary would be something along the lines of:
The idea of X has
John Repucci schrieb:
As much as I would like to get answers directly (and promptly) from the
source experts, I would prefer that the developers be allowed to focus
on development (if that is their passion).
In a perfect world the specificiation preceeds the implementation :-]
What's so
On 2/28/12 7:28 PM, Juha Manninen wrote:
2012/2/29 John Repucci john.repu...@gmail.com
mailto:john.repu...@gmail.com
As much as I would like to get answers directly (and promptly)
from the source experts, I would prefer that the developers be
allowed to focus on development (if
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 08:16:14 +0100
zeljko zel...@holobit.net wrote:
Ok, just tell me if composition is ON or OFF so I can try to fix it.
It is not as easy as that. I tested different desktop environments with and
without compisiting.
There's no problem without compositing and there is no
2012/2/29 Rich Saunders saunders.richar...@gmail.com
Of course, the core developers would not be expected to do it unless they
chose to. I see it as a project management task.
Who is the project manager then? I have tried to explain in my mails that
you guys don't understand the reality here.
On 2/28/12 8:52 PM, Juha Manninen wrote:
2012/2/29 Rich Saunders saunders.richar...@gmail.com
mailto:saunders.richar...@gmail.com
Of course, the core developers would not be expected to do it
unless they chose to. I see it as a project management task.
Who is the project manager
2012/2/29 Everton Vieira tonvie...@gmail.com
Em 28/02/2012, às 19:02, Juha Manninen escreveu:
It may also be an illusion from your side that contributing code to a big
project becomes easy if only there was a project manager with a nice list
of tasks.
I think it would be easy with more
Em 28/02/2012, às 23:25, Juha Manninen escreveu:
2012/2/29 Everton Vieira tonvie...@gmail.com
Em 28/02/2012, às 19:02, Juha Manninen escreveu:
It may also be an illusion from your side that contributing code to a big
project becomes easy if only there was a project manager with a nice list
Same error I got about two days ago svn. I just crazily typecast the
problematic expression to the expected type and it compiles smoothly (and no
bug so far, because I haven't used the dbgrid :p)
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View this message in context:
On Wednesday 29 of February 2012 02:14:35 Reimar Grabowski wrote:
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 08:16:14 +0100
zeljko zel...@holobit.net wrote:
Ok, just tell me if composition is ON or OFF so I can try to fix it.
It is not as easy as that. I tested different desktop environments with and
without
2012/2/28 Martin
And WithTopInfo is also a normal feature now
If you are (caret pos) in a big class (or procedure) it shows you the name
Now this is going to be very useful, though I would have to get used
to how it is displayed... a bit confusing at first.
--
Regards,
- Graeme -
Hi,
I got a lazarus update this morning, and rebuilt the IDE via the Tools
menu. While it was compiling, I was scrolling the editor window. Then
suddenly the IDE froze up! Luckily I ran the IDE from a console
window, and saw the following warning message. In the end I had to
kill the Lazarus
On 02/28/2012 02:43 PM, Sven Barth wrote:
And with the way I described we can at least provide a type that
handles similar to good old AnsiString, but will continue to work even
if String should be changed to UnicodeString in the future.
I just did a component using Delphi 2009 (as I don't
On 02/28/2012 03:40 PM, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
ByteString only requires a dedicated encoding (value), which makes
it incompatible with other encodings, and thus disables all
conversions. Such an encoding doesn't break Delphi compatibility, but
allows to use all stringhandling functions
On 02/28/2012 04:13 PM, Sven Barth wrote:
And instead of introducing yet another type or another special
encoding we could just leverage the features FPC has today and use
TBytes.
I agree, if all features are in place:
- its available out of the box (in the RTL)
- it has all string functions
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