Re: New member with an IRT-33P

2022-05-06 Thread Tim Ziegler
Mine is the WC MA but can check the manual I have to see if anything is
like, but Mike Pung would really be the guy to ask.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 11:51 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> [image: Inline image]
> I bought a woodchuck model IRT-33P on ebay. The manual is useless and
> there are no photos. Does anyone in the group have this model and would
> they be willing to help me with questions. Any help would be greatly
> appreciated.
> Thank you Robert Seliger
>
> THE HISTORY PAGE.
> https://ornamentalmills.com/history/index.html
>
> Hello Robert.
> I have only see a few photos of this machine.  It is the very First OM
> Legacy/Phantom made.
>
> It is limited to what it can do, But I'm sure with a little help from our
> members we should be able to help you make the best out of what you have.
> If you don't mind, Please try send us some photo's of what you have,  The
> IRT was sold as a kit, and there were a number of up-grades they made for
> this machine. depending on what you own.
>
> Looking forward to seeing more.
>
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G.
>
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RE: New member introduction

2021-11-30 Thread bulkeley
Always worth a look Denson thank you, please post the link

 

Bill

 

From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Wednesday, 1 December 2021 7:55 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Hi gentlemen,

Don’t know is this helps but I found acme 5/8-4 taps both left and right hand 
on eBay. They are a little pricey.

Denson

 

Sent from Denson's iPhone





On Nov 30, 2021, at 5:59 AM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



So is someone trying to reach out to Joe?

One of you guys that have been here since the beginning 

should have his contact info? Does Curt. 

At least you'd know all's well?


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:12 PM M.W.Foscue mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Bill,

 

Yep!   Thanks.

I'm pretty the were one of the two I found. 

I did remember that they were out of New York.

The may even be the one that Joe Biuno referred us to as well.

Thanks.

Mac


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-Original Message-
From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Sent: Nov 29, 2021 11:03 PM
To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: RE: New member introduction

 

Ok https://www.dependableacme.com/class/#screw

Third one down I think this is it

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 2:50 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: New member introduction

 

I and at least one other found it. It was not easy.

I am unable to find it again - but I believe the other Group member that 
sourced it was Joe Biuno - in New York.  Have not heard from him in a 
L-o-o-o-o-o-o-n-n-n-g time.  Have to pray that he is ok - and just VERY busy 
making custom drapery rods - and otherwise staying happy & HEALTHY!  Hi Joe!! 

 

I remember the "catch" was that it was made and sold in something like 12' 
lengths.

That meant you had to find a source hat would cut it to the length you needed - 
still paying for the 12 feet even though all you needed was 8 feet.  The other 
issue was S

You might end up paying an extra "over-size" charge - on top of an already 
rather pricey piece of threaded rod!

Cheers!

Mac

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-Original Message-
From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:56 PM
To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: RE: New member introduction

 

I remember some one on the group finding legacy leadscrew threaded bar 
somewhere but I cant remember look in the archived the post will be there 
somewhere 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:17 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Thanks Tim, don’t go out of your way on my account. If you happen upon them, 
please send them over. 

 

I do have some short rails so support ideas to handle the extra length/weight 
are welcome.

 

 I am still on the fence on joining two lead screws or finding a longer 
continuous one verses flipping the work but I have some time before that spring 
project has to be started.

 

Jeff from Connecticut

 

On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

OK I will dig a bit and come up with them. 

I finished the job and took it down until the next time. 

Just keep the rails and brackets handy for the next time and push the machine 
back 

to its home. 

Like I said I flipped my parts. 

 

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Tim,

 

Pictures would be great, if you have them.

Jeff from Connecticut

 

On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hey Jeff, 

I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM connectors 

to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller stand 
modified 

with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put holes in 
walls 

like other's did lol. 

 

I can try to find pix if you'd like???

 

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

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Re: New member introduction

2021-11-30 Thread Tim Ziegler
thanks Jeff, at least I don't feel so alone.
So these finds maybe we could look at splitting up the machine between the
two of us. I have
several needs so if you want to message me seperate and send me the links
I'd take a look.
I'm building a Hybrid and it requires many items on the lom X 2 because of
what I am doing to it.
So give that some thought. I have to head back out and run the laser for a
couple hours and glue
a door together for a customer so I'll be out for a while but sure would
like to find the parts.

I have a friend that actually restores really old stuff for equipment. I'
don't do a lot of old stuff, unless
it's' an old Oliver tractor lol

More in a bit.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 3:18 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

> Hi Tim,
>
> I did reach out to Curt on the rotary table. Hopefully that will work out.
> I have seen a couple of other ( longer than my 900 )legacy machines for
> sale on Craigslist / Facebook Marketplace with accessories including one
> with a rotary table (a 1000EX for $875 and a 1500EX for $1200 ) but they
> didn’t want to part the accessories out separately and I don’t need another
> machine “yet”.
>
> Regarding your legacy collection, I confess to the same addition though I
> stay more local and until this point, it has been focused on various other
> woodworking equipment. Possibly in the realm of “Tool Rescue, Restoration,
> and Adoption” since it is far more involved than just buying a new tool and
> I can never seem to part with them after. 路‍♂️
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:37 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> Thanks Jeff,
>
> Yes I had to search for a rotary table too and found one on the Router
> Forum I belong too.
> However trying to get any response on there is like pulling teeth. Like
> Curt says "Crickets"
> I'd have to check the miles on that one. Wow.
> But I sent my kids all the way to Texas for my first LOM, my Wood
> Chuck was in my back door.
> then Wisconsin for one, and finally South Dakota for the last one nice
> 1200 that I'm making into
> a REVO HYBRID. I'll be posting more on that here in a while.  Its a
> shorten up 1200 but will have
> 2 different area's to turn. In front like the Revo and in the middle like
> the basic LOM's are.
> I put a drive on it today so its a work in progress. I had to rob peter to
> pay paul on that one.
> So enough on me and my bad habits lol.
> We are looking forward to your progress and if I recall someone out there
> does have a rotary table for sale.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 4:09 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> Thanks for the welcome. I can relate to adopting the whole tool but the
>> challenge ever increases trying to find another corner in the garage to put
>> them. I will have to dig up some photos.
>>
>> I believe Belchertown is in central Massachusetts which is about a 1 hour
>> drive from me in Northeast CT.
>>
>> I am still looking for a rotary table accessory, I wished I had bought
>> one when Legacy was still offering them but it was close to $300 back then.
>> I was only doing a few spindles / candlesticks at the time so it wasn’t a
>> definitive need. The search continues……
>>
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>
>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 2:50 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hey Jeff,
>>
>> Welcome,
>> Yeah good old Wood Chuck, a few of us actually have them. I may inquire
>> for the drive.
>> So yeah I'm one looking for parts all the time and everytime I purchase
>> another machine its
>> too good to take parts from so then my search continues. . I robbed my
>> drive off my WoodChuck to
>> but on my 1200 LOM.
>> I figured the stench would be a bit tough turning that stuff, but my
>> sense of smell has been hampered by
>> covid I had in september  so now would be the time to turn it right. no
>> smeller lol.
>> Where is Belcher Town
>> Well very nice to meet you and hope to hear more from you.
>> Feel free to drop pix in from time to time to we'd all love to hear from
>> you.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 11:57 AM Jeff Richmond 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>
>>> I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a
>>> Legacy Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and
>>> its capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your
>>> experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides.
>>>
>>> To add a little input to the recent group conversations
>>>
>>> Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which
>>> were well seasoned (dry) 

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-30 Thread Tim Ziegler
Yes Sir and both happy to help you out Jeff.
We are a family here so any time.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 2:57 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

> Thanks Tim,
>
> I am happy for experience in any and all formats but a picture is worth a
> thousand words and a video is worth a thousand pictures. It sure helps
> knuckleheads like me peer through the fog. Lol
>
> Thanks Curt for your reply as well.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 30, 2021, at 6:59 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> thats what I explained too and added pics of my splice.
> thats why I actually bought the longer machine was to do longer parts
> but I have my pet 1200 and preferred milling in the shop and not where
> I have my other machine set up.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 12:16 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
>> Wow! this topic has taken off.
>>
>> I've made a split nut for the Legacy before.  I own two taps 5/8x4 one is
>> a home made ,( made out of a part of an old leadscrew). and the other is
>> one that I found on E-bay a while back.
>> The nut is not hard to make.
>>
>> As far as Bills leadscrew, I personally did not think it would work. and
>> I told him so. (He/Bill went a long way to prove me wrong!) ;-p ( Good for
>> him. and as he said that was a long time ago.)
>>
>> When I extended my Legacy, I just left the leadscrew the same, When and
>> if I need, I can always just flip the part over and cut the remaining wood
>> on the Flip-side. ;-p
>> To be serious, The only long jobs that I've done, I just needed the
>> length to hold the part. the cuts were only done in the mid section and the
>> ends were left square.
>> And when I did my sail boat mast, (in the archives, a 14' wooden mast.) I
>> just used the carriage for the travel and did not use the screw at all.
>> I had a plan "B" (but never used it.) I have a 5/8" round stock, I planed
>> to use it to bridge the gap difference , and just move the leadscrew when I
>> needed.  My acme screw is held in place with couplings, all I planed to do,
>> was slip the rod in between the couplings and add another to extend the
>> screw.
>>
>> So Jeff there is always more then one way to "skin a cat" so to speak. ;-)
>>
>> Have a good night.
>> talk to you and all tomorrow.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>> On Monday, November 29, 2021, 09:36:46 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
>> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks Bill, I wouldn’t have considered it previously but I should be
>> able make delrin replacements with this tool. I do not have metal milling
>> capabilities but plastic drilling/tapping should be doable.
>>
>> As a related question….Has anyone tried making or buying brass split nuts
>> verses the delrin?
>>
>> Pros/cons?
>>
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 8:40 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> The taps are still out there
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/174986834390?hash=item28be0731d6:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a
>>
>>
>>
>> Because your only tapping plastic or at worst brass these cheap Chinese
>> taps will work
>>
>>
>>
>> I think it would be possible to make leadscrew nuts for the legacy on the
>> legacy
>>
>> I did that with the top hats but that is just my opinion
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:01 PM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>>
>>
>>
>> Curt or Bill may post to that comment about the acme nuts from Delrin.
>> They have taps and make their own.
>>
>> Stay tuned someone will jump in. LOM was making them but the last time I
>> asked Cindy from Legacy they
>>
>> where not making them but maybe things changed.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-30 Thread Tim Ziegler
Nice find just the same Denson, and great hearing from you.
Please join in on the coming discussion on Sanding on the LOM too.
I think that needs a post in it's self though.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 2:55 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 wrote:

> Hi gentlemen,
> Don’t know is this helps but I found acme 5/8-4 taps both left and right
> hand on eBay. They are a little pricey.
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
> On Nov 30, 2021, at 5:59 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> So is someone trying to reach out to Joe?
> One of you guys that have been here since the beginning
> should have his contact info? Does Curt.
> At least you'd know all's well?
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:12 PM M.W.Foscue 
> wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>>
>>
>> Yep!   Thanks.
>>
>> I'm pretty the were one of the two I found.
>>
>> I did remember that they were out of New York.
>>
>> The may even be the one that Joe Biuno referred us to as well.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 11:03 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: RE: New member introduction
>>
>>
>>
>> Ok https://www.dependableacme.com/class/#screw
>>
>> Third one down I think this is it
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 2:50 PM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: New member introduction
>>
>>
>>
>> I and at least one other found it. It was not easy.
>>
>> I am unable to find it again - but I believe the other Group member that
>> sourced it was Joe Biuno - in New York.  Have not heard from him in a
>> L-o-o-o-o-o-o-n-n-n-g time.  Have to pray that he is ok - and just VERY
>> busy making custom drapery rods - and otherwise staying happy & HEALTHY!
>> Hi Joe!!
>>
>>
>>
>> I remember the "catch" was that it was made and sold in something like
>> 12' lengths.
>>
>> That meant you had to find a source hat would cut it to the length you
>> needed - still paying for the 12 feet even though all you needed was 8
>> feet.  The other issue was S
>>
>> You might end up paying an extra "over-size" charge - on top of an
>> already rather pricey piece of threaded rod!
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:56 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: RE: New member introduction
>>
>>
>>
>> I remember some one on the group finding legacy leadscrew threaded bar
>> somewhere but I cant remember look in the archived the post will be there
>> somewhere
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:17 PM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Tim, don’t go out of your way on my account. If you happen upon
>> them, please send them over.
>>
>>
>>
>> I do have some short rails so support ideas to handle the extra
>> length/weight are welcome.
>>
>>
>>
>>  I am still on the fence on joining two lead screws or finding a longer
>> continuous one verses flipping the work but I have some time before that
>> spring project has to be started.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> OK I will dig a bit and come up with them.
>>
>> I finished the job and took it down until the next time.
>>
>> Just keep the rails and brackets handy for the next time and push the
>> machine back
>>
>> to its home.
>>
>> Like I said I flipped my parts.

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-30 Thread Jeff Richmond
Hi Tim,

I did reach out to Curt on the rotary table. Hopefully that will work out. I 
have seen a couple of other ( longer than my 900 )legacy machines for sale on 
Craigslist / Facebook Marketplace with accessories including one with a rotary 
table (a 1000EX for $875 and a 1500EX for $1200 ) but they didn’t want to part 
the accessories out separately and I don’t need another machine “yet”.

Regarding your legacy collection, I confess to the same addition though I stay 
more local and until this point, it has been focused on various other 
woodworking equipment. Possibly in the realm of “Tool Rescue, Restoration, and 
Adoption” since it is far more involved than just buying a new tool and I can 
never seem to part with them after. 路‍♂️

Jeff from Connecticut

> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:37 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Jeff, 
> 
> Yes I had to search for a rotary table too and found one on the Router Forum 
> I belong too.
> However trying to get any response on there is like pulling teeth. Like Curt 
> says "Crickets"
> I'd have to check the miles on that one. Wow. 
> But I sent my kids all the way to Texas for my first LOM, my Wood Chuck was 
> in my back door. 
> then Wisconsin for one, and finally South Dakota for the last one nice 1200 
> that I'm making into 
> a REVO HYBRID. I'll be posting more on that here in a while.  Its a shorten 
> up 1200 but will have 
> 2 different area's to turn. In front like the Revo and in the middle like the 
> basic LOM's are. 
> I put a drive on it today so its a work in progress. I had to rob peter to 
> pay paul on that one. 
> So enough on me and my bad habits lol. 
> We are looking forward to your progress and if I recall someone out there 
> does have a rotary table for sale. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 4:09 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:
>> Hi Tim, 
>> 
>> Thanks for the welcome. I can relate to adopting the whole tool but the 
>> challenge ever increases trying to find another corner in the garage to put 
>> them. I will have to dig up some photos.
>> 
>> I believe Belchertown is in central Massachusetts which is about a 1 hour 
>> drive from me in Northeast CT. 
>> 
>> I am still looking for a rotary table accessory, I wished I had bought one 
>> when Legacy was still offering them but it was close to $300 back then. I 
>> was only doing a few spindles / candlesticks at the time so it wasn’t a 
>> definitive need. The search continues……
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>> 
>>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 2:50 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey Jeff, 
>>> 
>>> Welcome, 
>>> Yeah good old Wood Chuck, a few of us actually have them. I may inquire for 
>>> the drive. 
>>> So yeah I'm one looking for parts all the time and everytime I purchase 
>>> another machine its
>>> too good to take parts from so then my search continues. . I robbed my 
>>> drive off my WoodChuck to 
>>> but on my 1200 LOM.
>>> I figured the stench would be a bit tough turning that stuff, but my sense 
>>> of smell has been hampered by 
>>> covid I had in september  so now would be the time to turn it right. no 
>>> smeller lol. 
>>> Where is Belcher Town
>>> Well very nice to meet you and hope to hear more from you. 
>>> Feel free to drop pix in from time to time to we'd all love to hear from 
>>> you. 
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> 
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> 
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 11:57 AM Jeff Richmond  
>>> wrote:
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy 
 Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its 
 capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your 
 experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides. 
 
 To add a little input to the recent group conversations
 
 Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were 
 well seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin / 
 fingernail during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I 
 prefer to focus on.
 
 Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and 
 accessories for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need 
 another (at least that what I have to keep telling myself) but in my 
 searching, I did bump into this one if anyone wants to expand their 
 capability. It is a little older but it appears to have a variety of gears 
 as well as the manuals and instructional videos ( including a VHS player ) 
  Legacy ( Woodchuck ) Ornamental Mill - tools - by owner - sale 
 (craigslist.org)
 
 Jeff from Connecticut
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Re: New member introduction

2021-11-30 Thread Jeff Richmond
Thanks Tim, 

I am happy for experience in any and all formats but a picture is worth a 
thousand words and a video is worth a thousand pictures. It sure helps 
knuckleheads like me peer through the fog. Lol

Thanks Curt for your reply as well.

Jeff from Connecticut

> On Nov 30, 2021, at 6:59 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> thats what I explained too and added pics of my splice. 
> thats why I actually bought the longer machine was to do longer parts
> but I have my pet 1200 and preferred milling in the shop and not where
> I have my other machine set up.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 12:16 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
>> Wow! this topic has taken off. 
>> 
>> I've made a split nut for the Legacy before.  I own two taps 5/8x4 one is a 
>> home made ,( made out of a part of an old leadscrew). and the other is one 
>> that I found on E-bay a while back.
>> The nut is not hard to make.
>> 
>> As far as Bills leadscrew, I personally did not think it would work. and I 
>> told him so. (He/Bill went a long way to prove me wrong!) ;-p ( Good for 
>> him. and as he said that was a long time ago.)
>> 
>> When I extended my Legacy, I just left the leadscrew the same, When and if I 
>> need, I can always just flip the part over and cut the remaining wood on the 
>> Flip-side. ;-p
>> To be serious, The only long jobs that I've done, I just needed the length 
>> to hold the part. the cuts were only done in the mid section and the ends 
>> were left square. 
>> And when I did my sail boat mast, (in the archives, a 14' wooden mast.) I 
>> just used the carriage for the travel and did not use the screw at all.  
>> I had a plan "B" (but never used it.) I have a 5/8" round stock, I planed to 
>> use it to bridge the gap difference , and just move the leadscrew when I 
>> needed.  My acme screw is held in place with couplings, all I planed to do, 
>> was slip the rod in between the couplings and add another to extend the 
>> screw.
>> 
>> So Jeff there is always more then one way to "skin a cat" so to speak. ;-)
>> 
>> Have a good night.
>> talk to you and all tomorrow.
>> 
>> C.A.G.
>> On Monday, November 29, 2021, 09:36:46 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks Bill, I wouldn’t have considered it previously but I should be able 
>> make delrin replacements with this tool. I do not have metal milling 
>> capabilities but plastic drilling/tapping should be doable.
>> 
>> As a related question….Has anyone tried making or buying brass split nuts 
>> verses the delrin? 
>> 
>> Pros/cons?
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>> 
>>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 8:40 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> The taps are still out there 
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/174986834390?hash=item28be0731d6:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Because your only tapping plastic or at worst brass these cheap Chinese taps 
>> will work
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I think it would be possible to make leadscrew nuts for the legacy on the 
>> legacy
>> 
>> I did that with the top hats but that is just my opinion
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:01 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: New member introduction
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Curt or Bill may post to that comment about the acme nuts from Delrin. They 
>> have taps and make their own. 
>> 
>> Stay tuned someone will jump in. LOM was making them but the last time I 
>> asked Cindy from Legacy they 
>> 
>> where not making them but maybe things changed. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> 
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:14 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, there is a good amount of surface area but that must be also some good 
>> epoxy. Thanks for sharing.
>> 
>>  
>&g

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-30 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
Hi gentlemen,
Don’t know is this helps but I found acme 5/8-4 taps both left and right hand 
on eBay. They are a little pricey.
Denson

Sent from Denson's iPhone

> On Nov 30, 2021, at 5:59 AM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> So is someone trying to reach out to Joe?
> One of you guys that have been here since the beginning 
> should have his contact info? Does Curt. 
> At least you'd know all's well?
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:12 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:
>> Bill,
>>  
>> Yep!   Thanks.
>> I'm pretty the were one of the two I found.
>> I did remember that they were out of New York.
>> The may even be the one that Joe Biuno referred us to as well.
>> Thanks.
>> Mac
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 11:03 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: RE: New member introduction
>> 
>>  
>> Ok https://www.dependableacme.com/class/#screw
>> 
>> Third one down I think this is it
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
>> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 2:50 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: New member introduction
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I and at least one other found it. It was not easy.
>> 
>> I am unable to find it again - but I believe the other Group member that 
>> sourced it was Joe Biuno - in New York.  Have not heard from him in a 
>> L-o-o-o-o-o-o-n-n-n-g time.  Have to pray that he is ok - and just VERY busy 
>> making custom drapery rods - and otherwise staying happy & HEALTHY!  Hi Joe!!
>>  
>> I remember the "catch" was that it was made and sold in something like 12' 
>> lengths.
>> That meant you had to find a source hat would cut it to the length you 
>> needed - still paying for the 12 feet even though all you needed was 8 feet. 
>>  The other issue was S
>> You might end up paying an extra "over-size" charge - on top of an already 
>> rather pricey piece of threaded rod!
>> Cheers!
>> Mac
>>  
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:56 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: RE: New member introduction
>> 
>>  
>> I remember some one on the group finding legacy leadscrew threaded bar 
>> somewhere but I cant remember look in the archived the post will be there 
>> somewhere
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
>> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:17 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: New member introduction
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks Tim, don’t go out of your way on my account. If you happen upon them, 
>> please send them over. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I do have some short rails so support ideas to handle the extra 
>> length/weight are welcome.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  I am still on the fence on joining two lead screws or finding a longer 
>> continuous one verses flipping the work but I have some time before that 
>> spring project has to be started.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> OK I will dig a bit and come up with them. 
>> 
>> I finished the job and took it down until the next time. 
>> 
>> Just keep the rails and brackets handy for the next time and push the 
>> machine back 
>> 
>> to its home. 
>> 
>> Like I said I flipped my parts. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> 
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Pictures would be great, if you have them.
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hey Jeff, 
>> 
>> I actually made two angle iron brac

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-30 Thread Jeff Richmond
Hi Ron, 

I am over in Eastford, it’s in the northeast corner.

Jeff from Connecticut 

> On Nov 30, 2021, at 7:39 AM, 'Ronald Kirchoff' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Jeff
> Where in Connecticut are you from. I grew up in Farmington. 
> Ron (the math guy)
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jeff Richmond 
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 29, 2021 9:10 pm
> Subject: Re: New member introduction
> 
> Yes, I am looking them over now, thank you. 
> 
> Jeff from Connecticut
> 
>>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 8:39 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Did the pix come through yet Jeff?
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:16 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:
>> Thanks Tim, don’t go out of your way on my account. If you happen upon them, 
>> please send them over. 
>> 
>> I do have some short rails so support ideas to handle the extra 
>> length/weight are welcome.
>> 
>>  I am still on the fence on joining two lead screws or finding a longer 
>> continuous one verses flipping the work but I have some time before that 
>> spring project has to be started.
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>> 
>>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> OK I will dig a bit and come up with them. 
>>> I finished the job and took it down until the next time. 
>>> Just keep the rails and brackets handy for the next time and push the 
>>> machine back 
>>> to its home. 
>>> Like I said I flipped my parts. 
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> 
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> 
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>> Pictures would be great, if you have them.
>>> 
>>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hey Jeff, 
>>>> I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM 
>>>> connectors 
>>>> to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller 
>>>> stand modified 
>>>> with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put 
>>>> holes in walls 
>>>> like other's did lol. 
>>>> 
>>>> I can try to find pix if you'd like???
>>>> 
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>> 
>>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Interesting. 
>>>> 
>>>> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you 
>>>> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>>>> 
>>>> Jeff from Connecticut 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 
>>>>> foot plus on my 1200 worked great just
>>>>> needed more supports. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>>> 
>>>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> Hello again Jeff
>>>>> 
>>>>> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take 
>>>>> some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and 
>>>>> using some time of object to hold the end of your stock. 
>>>>> I small hole in the

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-30 Thread Tim Ziegler
Good morning Ron the math guy.
You're relatively new to the group to right?
If so, welcome and we can all use a math teacher especially me.
Its great to get some new blood in for conversation and knowledge
look forward to hearing more from you both.


Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 6:39 AM 'Ronald Kirchoff' via Legacy Ornamental
Mills  wrote:

> Hi Jeff
> Where in Connecticut are you from. I grew up in Farmington.
> Ron (the math guy)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jeff Richmond 
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Mon, Nov 29, 2021 9:10 pm
> Subject: Re: New member introduction
>
> Yes, I am looking them over now, thank you. 
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 8:39 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> Did the pix come through yet Jeff?
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:16 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Tim, don’t go out of your way on my account. If you happen upon
> them, please send them over.
>
> I do have some short rails so support ideas to handle the extra
> length/weight are welcome.
>
>  I am still on the fence on joining two lead screws or finding a longer
> continuous one verses flipping the work but I have some time before that
> spring project has to be started.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> OK I will dig a bit and come up with them.
> I finished the job and took it down until the next time.
> Just keep the rails and brackets handy for the next time and push the
> machine back
> to its home.
> Like I said I flipped my parts.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> Pictures would be great, if you have them.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> Hey Jeff,
> I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM
> connectors
> to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller
> stand modified
> with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put
> holes in walls
> like other's did lol.
>
> I can try to find pix if you'd like???
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Interesting.
>
> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you
> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot
> plus on my 1200 worked great just
> needed more supports.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello again Jeff
>
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take
> some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and
> using some time of object to hold the end of your stock.
> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.
> Then latter I extended my rails.
> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck.
>
> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some
> snow coming down today.
>
> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock
> 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move
> around. I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their
> compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what
> generation to call these since Legacy improved something it seemed almost
> every year for a while and 

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-30 Thread 'Ronald Kirchoff' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
Hi JeffWhere in Connecticut are you from. I grew up in Farmington. Ron (the 
math guy)


-Original Message-
From: Jeff Richmond 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, Nov 29, 2021 9:10 pm
Subject: Re: New member introduction

Yes, I am looking them over now, thank you. 

Jeff from Connecticut

On Nov 29, 2021, at 8:39 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:



Did the pix come through yet Jeff?
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:16 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

Thanks Tim, don’t go out of your way on my account. If you happen upon them, 
please send them over. 
I do have some short rails so support ideas to handle the extra length/weight 
are welcome.
 I am still on the fence on joining two lead screws or finding a longer 
continuous one verses flipping the work but I have some time before that spring 
project has to be started.
Jeff from Connecticut

On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:



OK I will dig a bit and come up with them. I finished the job and took it down 
until the next time. Just keep the rails and brackets handy for the next time 
and push the machine back to its home. Like I said I flipped my parts. 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

Hi Tim,
Pictures would be great, if you have them.

Jeff from Connecticut

On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:



Hey Jeff, I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM 
connectors to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a 
roller stand modified with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did 
not have to put holes in walls like other's did lol. 
I can try to find pix if you'd like???
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

Interesting. 
When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you installing 
a longer one or joining them in some manner?

Jeff from Connecticut 

On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:



Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot 
plus on my 1200 worked great justneeded more supports. 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

 Hello again Jeff
Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using some 
time of object to hold the end of your stock. I small hole in the wall in my 
garage did it first, to hold my live center.Then latter I extended my 
rails.Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 
When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
C.A.G.
On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
 wrote:  
 
 Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
coming down today. 
I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 900) 
but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move around. I am 
not familiar with the previous generation models and their compatibility with 
the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what generation to call these 
since Legacy improved something it seemed almost every year for a while and 
came out with yet another model / package to offer.
Jeff from Connecticut 


On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  
wrote:




Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt   I 
don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good filtered mask is a must.  
  The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by the 
owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with a 2 X 2 
That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in the big 
bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as we call 
them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still use my 
Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications when the 
center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have done 15 foot 
posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down to roping a tooth 
pick.  Welcome to the group that does not accept "limitations" Mike OK
  On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:
  
 Hello Everyone, 
  I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy 
Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its 
capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offerin

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-30 Thread Tim Ziegler
thats what I explained too and added pics of my splice.
thats why I actually bought the longer machine was to do longer parts
but I have my pet 1200 and preferred milling in the shop and not where
I have my other machine set up.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 12:16 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Wow! this topic has taken off.
>
> I've made a split nut for the Legacy before.  I own two taps 5/8x4 one is
> a home made ,( made out of a part of an old leadscrew). and the other is
> one that I found on E-bay a while back.
> The nut is not hard to make.
>
> As far as Bills leadscrew, I personally did not think it would work. and I
> told him so. (He/Bill went a long way to prove me wrong!) ;-p ( Good for
> him. and as he said that was a long time ago.)
>
> When I extended my Legacy, I just left the leadscrew the same, When and if
> I need, I can always just flip the part over and cut the remaining wood on
> the Flip-side. ;-p
> To be serious, The only long jobs that I've done, I just needed the length
> to hold the part. the cuts were only done in the mid section and the ends
> were left square.
> And when I did my sail boat mast, (in the archives, a 14' wooden mast.) I
> just used the carriage for the travel and did not use the screw at all.
> I had a plan "B" (but never used it.) I have a 5/8" round stock, I planed
> to use it to bridge the gap difference , and just move the leadscrew when I
> needed.  My acme screw is held in place with couplings, all I planed to do,
> was slip the rod in between the couplings and add another to extend the
> screw.
>
> So Jeff there is always more then one way to "skin a cat" so to speak. ;-)
>
> Have a good night.
> talk to you and all tomorrow.
>
> C.A.G.
> On Monday, November 29, 2021, 09:36:46 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Bill, I wouldn’t have considered it previously but I should be able
> make delrin replacements with this tool. I do not have metal milling
> capabilities but plastic drilling/tapping should be doable.
>
> As a related question….Has anyone tried making or buying brass split nuts
> verses the delrin?
>
> Pros/cons?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 8:40 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> The taps are still out there
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/174986834390?hash=item28be0731d6:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a
>
>
>
> Because your only tapping plastic or at worst brass these cheap Chinese
> taps will work
>
>
>
> I think it would be possible to make leadscrew nuts for the legacy on the
> legacy
>
> I did that with the top hats but that is just my opinion
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:01 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Curt or Bill may post to that comment about the acme nuts from Delrin.
> They have taps and make their own.
>
> Stay tuned someone will jump in. LOM was making them but the last time I
> asked Cindy from Legacy they
>
> where not making them but maybe things changed.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:14 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Wow, there is a good amount of surface area but that must be also some
> good epoxy. Thanks for sharing.
>
>
>
> I do have some concerns over what join method to use and how smooth the
> transition is in this area since those delrin nuts are not as tough as I
> hoped. (Should have gotten more spares)
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 6:52 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> Here is a pic of it just before I joined it .and at the time no one
> thought it would work but I have 2 leadscrews joined my this method and
> both have never ever moved and I have to look really closely to see the
> join. I have a background in engineering of over 20 years and we used this
> method where heat could not be used because of distortion problems.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-30 Thread Tim Ziegler
So is someone trying to reach out to Joe?
One of you guys that have been here since the beginning
should have his contact info? Does Curt.
At least you'd know all's well?
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:12 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Bill,
>
>
>
> Yep!   Thanks.
>
> I'm pretty the were one of the two I found.
>
> I did remember that they were out of New York.
>
> The may even be the one that Joe Biuno referred us to as well.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: 
> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 11:03 PM
> To: 
> Subject: RE: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Ok https://www.dependableacme.com/class/#screw
>
> Third one down I think this is it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 2:50 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: New member introduction
>
>
>
> I and at least one other found it. It was not easy.
>
> I am unable to find it again - but I believe the other Group member that
> sourced it was Joe Biuno - in New York.  Have not heard from him in a
> L-o-o-o-o-o-o-n-n-n-g time.  Have to pray that he is ok - and just VERY
> busy making custom drapery rods - and otherwise staying happy & HEALTHY!
> Hi Joe!!
>
>
>
> I remember the "catch" was that it was made and sold in something like 12'
> lengths.
>
> That meant you had to find a source hat would cut it to the length you
> needed - still paying for the 12 feet even though all you needed was 8
> feet.  The other issue was S
>
> You might end up paying an extra "over-size" charge - on top of an already
> rather pricey piece of threaded rod!
>
> Cheers!
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:56 PM
> To: 
> Subject: RE: New member introduction
>
>
>
> I remember some one on the group finding legacy leadscrew threaded bar
> somewhere but I cant remember look in the archived the post will be there
> somewhere
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:17 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Thanks Tim, don’t go out of your way on my account. If you happen upon
> them, please send them over.
>
>
>
> I do have some short rails so support ideas to handle the extra
> length/weight are welcome.
>
>
>
>  I am still on the fence on joining two lead screws or finding a longer
> continuous one verses flipping the work but I have some time before that
> spring project has to be started.
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>
>
> OK I will dig a bit and come up with them.
>
> I finished the job and took it down until the next time.
>
> Just keep the rails and brackets handy for the next time and push the
> machine back
>
> to its home.
>
> Like I said I flipped my parts.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
>
>
> Pictures would be great, if you have them.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>
>
> Hey Jeff,
>
> I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM
> connectors
>
> to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller
> stand modified
>
> with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put
> holes in walls
>
> like other's did lol.
>
>
>
> I can try to find pix if you'd like???
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Inte

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-30 Thread Tim Ziegler
Hey Bill thanks for that I can even check that out for future endeavors.
You never know those threaded rods are good for a lot of things.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:03 PM  wrote:

> Ok https://www.dependableacme.com/class/#screw
>
> Third one down I think this is it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 2:50 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: New member introduction
>
>
>
> I and at least one other found it. It was not easy.
>
> I am unable to find it again - but I believe the other Group member that
> sourced it was Joe Biuno - in New York.  Have not heard from him in a
> L-o-o-o-o-o-o-n-n-n-g time.  Have to pray that he is ok - and just VERY
> busy making custom drapery rods - and otherwise staying happy & HEALTHY!
> Hi Joe!!
>
>
>
> I remember the "catch" was that it was made and sold in something like 12'
> lengths.
>
> That meant you had to find a source hat would cut it to the length you
> needed - still paying for the 12 feet even though all you needed was 8
> feet.  The other issue was S
>
> You might end up paying an extra "over-size" charge - on top of an already
> rather pricey piece of threaded rod!
>
> Cheers!
>
> Mac
> ------
> --
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:56 PM
> To: 
> Subject: RE: New member introduction
>
>
>
> I remember some one on the group finding legacy leadscrew threaded bar
> somewhere but I cant remember look in the archived the post will be there
> somewhere
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:17 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Thanks Tim, don’t go out of your way on my account. If you happen upon
> them, please send them over.
>
>
>
> I do have some short rails so support ideas to handle the extra
> length/weight are welcome.
>
>
>
>  I am still on the fence on joining two lead screws or finding a longer
> continuous one verses flipping the work but I have some time before that
> spring project has to be started.
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>
>
> OK I will dig a bit and come up with them.
>
> I finished the job and took it down until the next time.
>
> Just keep the rails and brackets handy for the next time and push the
> machine back
>
> to its home.
>
> Like I said I flipped my parts.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
>
>
> Pictures would be great, if you have them.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>
>
> Hey Jeff,
>
> I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM
> connectors
>
> to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller
> stand modified
>
> with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put
> holes in walls
>
> like other's did lol.
>
>
>
> I can try to find pix if you'd like???
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Interesting.
>
>
>
> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you
> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>
>
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot
> plus on my 1200 worked great just
>
> needed more supports.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler Woo

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-30 Thread Tim Ziegler
Yeah I have to admit trying to find things in the archives is a bit
challenging.
I usually as for it to be resent. lol.

So shippers will not ship that long period.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 9:49 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> I and at least one other found it. It was not easy.
>
> I am unable to find it again - but I believe the other Group member that
> sourced it was Joe Biuno - in New York.  Have not heard from him in a
> L-o-o-o-o-o-o-n-n-n-g time.  Have to pray that he is ok - and just VERY
> busy making custom drapery rods - and otherwise staying happy & HEALTHY!
> Hi Joe!!
>
>
>
> I remember the "catch" was that it was made and sold in something like 12'
> lengths.
>
> That meant you had to find a source hat would cut it to the length you
> needed - still paying for the 12 feet even though all you needed was 8
> feet.  The other issue was S
>
> You might end up paying an extra "over-size" charge - on top of an already
> rather pricey piece of threaded rod!
>
> Cheers!
>
> Mac
> --
> --------------
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:56 PM
> To: 
> Subject: RE: New member introduction
>
>
>
> I remember some one on the group finding legacy leadscrew threaded bar
> somewhere but I cant remember look in the archived the post will be there
> somewhere
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:17 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Thanks Tim, don’t go out of your way on my account. If you happen upon
> them, please send them over.
>
>
>
> I do have some short rails so support ideas to handle the extra
> length/weight are welcome.
>
>
>
>  I am still on the fence on joining two lead screws or finding a longer
> continuous one verses flipping the work but I have some time before that
> spring project has to be started.
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>
>
> OK I will dig a bit and come up with them.
>
> I finished the job and took it down until the next time.
>
> Just keep the rails and brackets handy for the next time and push the
> machine back
>
> to its home.
>
> Like I said I flipped my parts.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
>
>
> Pictures would be great, if you have them.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>
>
> Hey Jeff,
>
> I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM
> connectors
>
> to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller
> stand modified
>
> with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put
> holes in walls
>
> like other's did lol.
>
>
>
> I can try to find pix if you'd like???
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Interesting.
>
>
>
> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you
> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>
>
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot
> plus on my 1200 worked great just
>
> needed more supports.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello again Jeff
>
>
>
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Wow! this topic has taken off. 
I've made a split nut for the Legacy before.  I own two taps 5/8x4 one is a 
home made ,( made out of a part of an old leadscrew). and the other is one that 
I found on E-bay a while back.The nut is not hard to make.
As far as Bills leadscrew, I personally did not think it would work. and I told 
him so. (He/Bill went a long way to prove me wrong!) ;-p ( Good for him. and as 
he said that was a long time ago.)
When I extended my Legacy, I just left the leadscrew the same, When and if I 
need, I can always just flip the part over and cut the remaining wood on the 
Flip-side. ;-pTo be serious, The only long jobs that I've done, I just needed 
the length to hold the part. the cuts were only done in the mid section and the 
ends were left square. And when I did my sail boat mast, (in the archives, a 
14' wooden mast.) I just used the carriage for the travel and did not use the 
screw at all.  I had a plan "B" (but never used it.) I have a 5/8" round stock, 
I planed to use it to bridge the gap difference , and just move the leadscrew 
when I needed.  My acme screw is held in place with couplings, all I planed to 
do, was slip the rod in between the couplings and add another to extend the 
screw.
So Jeff there is always more then one way to "skin a cat" so to speak. ;-)
Have a good night.talk to you and all tomorrow.
C.A.G.On Monday, November 29, 2021, 09:36:46 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
 wrote:  
 
 Thanks Bill, I wouldn’t have considered it previously but I should be able 
make delrin replacements with this tool. I do not have metal milling 
capabilities but plastic drilling/tapping should be doable.
As a related question….Has anyone tried making or buying brass split nuts 
verses the delrin? 
Pros/cons?
Jeff from Connecticut


On Nov 29, 2021, at 8:40 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:





The taps are still out there 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/174986834390?hash=item28be0731d6:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a

  

Because your only tapping plastic or at worst brass these cheap Chinese taps 
will work

  

I think it would be possible to make leadscrew nuts for the legacy on the 
legacy 

I did that with the top hats but that is just my opinion 

  

Bill

  

  

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:01 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New member introduction

  

Curt or Bill may post to that comment about the acme nuts from Delrin. They 
have taps and make their own. 

Stay tuned someone will jump in. LOM was making them but the last time I asked 
Cindy from Legacy they 

where not making them but maybe things changed. 




Kind Regards,

  

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

  

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

  

  

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:14 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:


Wow, there is a good amount of surface area but that must be also some good 
epoxy. Thanks for sharing.

  

I do have some concerns over what join method to use and how smooth the 
transition is in this area since those delrin nuts are not as tough as I hoped. 
(Should have gotten more spares)

  

Jeff from Connecticut






On Nov 29, 2021, at 6:52 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:





Here is a pic of it just before I joined it .and at the time no one thought it 
would work but I have 2 leadscrews joined my this method and both have never 
ever moved and I have to look really closely to see the join. I have a 
background in engineering of over 20 years and we used this method where heat 
could not be used because of distortion problems.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:27 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New member introduction

 

No I drilled one side and turned a pin on the other and glued them togeather 
with a special industrial locktight it has never moved since the joint is as 
strong as if I welded it

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:07 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Thanks for the input, Bill

 

So the join was not temporary, I assume you welded them together and smoothed 
the transition?

 

Jeff from Connecticut

 


On Nov 29, 2021, at 5:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:





When I extended my mill I joined 2 leadscrews together

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:02 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Interesting. 

 

When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you installing 
a longer one or joining them in some manner?

Jeff from Connecticut 

  


On Nov 28, 2021, at

RE: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread M.W.Foscue
Bill,
 
Yep!   Thanks.
I'm pretty the were one of the two I found. 
I did remember that they were out of New York.
The may even be the one that Joe Biuno referred us to as well.
Thanks.
Mac
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Nov 29, 2021 11:03 PM
To: 
Subject: RE: New member introduction
 
Ok https://www.dependableacme.com/class/#screw
Third one down I think this is it
 
Bill
 
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 2:50 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New member introduction

 
I and at least one other found it. It was not easy.
I am unable to find it again - but I believe the other Group member that 
sourced it was Joe Biuno - in New York.  Have not heard from him in a 
L-o-o-o-o-o-o-n-n-n-g time.  Have to pray that he is ok - and just VERY busy 
making custom drapery rods - and otherwise staying happy & HEALTHY!  Hi Joe!! 
 
I remember the "catch" was that it was made and sold in something like 12' 
lengths.
That meant you had to find a source hat would cut it to the length you needed - 
still paying for the 12 feet even though all you needed was 8 feet.  The other 
issue was S
You might end up paying an extra "over-size" charge - on top of an already 
rather pricey piece of threaded rod!
Cheers!
Mac


 

-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:56 PM
To: 
Subject: RE: New member introduction
 
I remember some one on the group finding legacy leadscrew threaded bar 
somewhere but I cant remember look in the archived the post will be there 
somewhere 
 
Bill
 
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
(mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)  On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:17 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
(mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)
Subject: Re: New member introduction


 
Thanks Tim, don’t go out of your way on my account. If you happen upon them, 
please send them over. 
 

I do have some short rails so support ideas to handle the extra length/weight 
are welcome.

 

 I am still on the fence on joining two lead screws or finding a longer 
continuous one verses flipping the work but I have some time before that spring 
project has to be started.

 
Jeff from Connecticut

 
On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:

 
OK I will dig a bit and come up with them. 
I finished the job and took it down until the next time. 

Just keep the rails and brackets handy for the next time and push the machine 
back 

to its home. 

Like I said I flipped my parts. 

 
Kind Regards,
 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell




 


 
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

Hi Tim,
 

Pictures would be great, if you have them.
Jeff from Connecticut

 
On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:

 
Hey Jeff, 
I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM connectors 

to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller stand 
modified 

with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put holes in 
walls 

like other's did lol. 

 

I can try to find pix if you'd like???

 
Kind Regards,
 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell




 


 
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

Interesting. 
 

When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you installing 
a longer one or joining them in some manner?
Jeff from Connecticut 

 
On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:

 
Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot plus 
on my 1200 worked great just
needed more supports. 

 
Kind Regards,
 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell




 


 
On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  
wrote:

Hello again Jeff

 

Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using some 
time of object to hold the end of your stock. 

I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.

Then latter I extended my rails.

Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 

 

When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 


On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond  wrote: 

 

 

Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
coming down today. 
 

I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 900) 
but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move around. I am 
not familiar with the previous generation models and their compatibi

RE: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread bulkeley
Ok https://www.dependableacme.com/class/#screw

Third one down I think this is it

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 2:50 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New member introduction

 

I and at least one other found it. It was not easy.

I am unable to find it again - but I believe the other Group member that 
sourced it was Joe Biuno - in New York.  Have not heard from him in a 
L-o-o-o-o-o-o-n-n-n-g time.  Have to pray that he is ok - and just VERY busy 
making custom drapery rods - and otherwise staying happy & HEALTHY!  Hi Joe!! 

 

I remember the "catch" was that it was made and sold in something like 12' 
lengths.

That meant you had to find a source hat would cut it to the length you needed - 
still paying for the 12 feet even though all you needed was 8 feet.  The other 
issue was S

You might end up paying an extra "over-size" charge - on top of an already 
rather pricey piece of threaded rod!

Cheers!

Mac

  _  

  _  

 

-Original Message-
From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:56 PM
To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: RE: New member introduction

 

I remember some one on the group finding legacy leadscrew threaded bar 
somewhere but I cant remember look in the archived the post will be there 
somewhere 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:17 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Thanks Tim, don’t go out of your way on my account. If you happen upon them, 
please send them over. 

 

I do have some short rails so support ideas to handle the extra length/weight 
are welcome.

 

 I am still on the fence on joining two lead screws or finding a longer 
continuous one verses flipping the work but I have some time before that spring 
project has to be started.

 

Jeff from Connecticut

 

On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

OK I will dig a bit and come up with them. 

I finished the job and took it down until the next time. 

Just keep the rails and brackets handy for the next time and push the machine 
back 

to its home. 

Like I said I flipped my parts. 

 

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Tim,

 

Pictures would be great, if you have them.

Jeff from Connecticut

 

On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hey Jeff, 

I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM connectors 

to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller stand 
modified 

with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put holes in 
walls 

like other's did lol. 

 

I can try to find pix if you'd like???

 

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Interesting. 

 

When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you installing 
a longer one or joining them in some manner?

Jeff from Connecticut 

 

On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot plus 
on my 1200 worked great just

needed more supports. 

 

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello again Jeff

 

Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using some 
time of object to hold the end of your stock. 

I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.

Then latter I extended my rails.

Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 

 

When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
coming down today. 

 

I 

RE: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread M.W.Foscue
I and at least one other found it. It was not easy.
I am unable to find it again - but I believe the other Group member that 
sourced it was Joe Biuno - in New York.  Have not heard from him in a 
L-o-o-o-o-o-o-n-n-n-g time.  Have to pray that he is ok - and just VERY busy 
making custom drapery rods - and otherwise staying happy & HEALTHY!  Hi Joe!! 
 
I remember the "catch" was that it was made and sold in something like 12' 
lengths.
That meant you had to find a source hat would cut it to the length you needed - 
still paying for the 12 feet even though all you needed was 8 feet.  The other 
issue was S
You might end up paying an extra "over-size" charge - on top of an already 
rather pricey piece of threaded rod!
Cheers!
Mac
 
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Nov 29, 2021 8:56 PM
To: 
Subject: RE: New member introduction
 
I remember some one on the group finding legacy leadscrew threaded bar 
somewhere but I cant remember look in the archived the post will be there 
somewhere 
 
Bill
 
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:17 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New member introduction


 
Thanks Tim, don’t go out of your way on my account. If you happen upon them, 
please send them over. 
 

I do have some short rails so support ideas to handle the extra length/weight 
are welcome.

 

 I am still on the fence on joining two lead screws or finding a longer 
continuous one verses flipping the work but I have some time before that spring 
project has to be started.

 
Jeff from Connecticut




On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:

 
OK I will dig a bit and come up with them. 
I finished the job and took it down until the next time. 

Just keep the rails and brackets handy for the next time and push the machine 
back 

to its home. 

Like I said I flipped my parts. 

 
Kind Regards,
 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell




 


 
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

Hi Tim,
 

Pictures would be great, if you have them.
Jeff from Connecticut




On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:

 
Hey Jeff, 
I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM connectors 

to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller stand 
modified 

with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put holes in 
walls 

like other's did lol. 

 

I can try to find pix if you'd like???

 
Kind Regards,
 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell




 


 
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

Interesting. 
 

When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you installing 
a longer one or joining them in some manner?
Jeff from Connecticut 




On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:

 
Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot plus 
on my 1200 worked great just
needed more supports. 

 
Kind Regards,
 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell




 


 
On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  
wrote:

Hello again Jeff

 

Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using some 
time of object to hold the end of your stock. 

I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.

Then latter I extended my rails.

Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 

 

When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 


On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond  wrote: 

 

 

Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
coming down today. 
 

I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 900) 
but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move around. I am 
not familiar with the previous generation models and their compatibility with 
the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what generation to call these 
since Legacy improved something it seemed almost every year for a while and 
came out with yet another model / package to offer.

 

Jeff from Connecticut 



On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  wrote:

 




Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt   I 
don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good filtered mask is a must.  
The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by the 
owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with a 2 X 2 
That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that w

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Tim Ziegler
yes and the ability to use dry lub. etc... less friction, quieter etc...
cheaper was probably a big factor.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 8:50 PM  wrote:

> I have considered it, brass would mean lubrication which could get messy
> but it would be doable.
>
> I think the idea was wear out the nut not the thread as that would be
> easier and cheaper to replace if I remember right.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 1:37 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Thanks Bill, I wouldn’t have considered it previously but I should be able
> make delrin replacements with this tool. I do not have metal milling
> capabilities but plastic drilling/tapping should be doable.
>
>
>
> As a related question….Has anyone tried making or buying brass split nuts
> verses the delrin?
>
>
>
> Pros/cons?
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 8:40 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> The taps are still out there
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/174986834390?hash=item28be0731d6:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a
>
>
>
> Because your only tapping plastic or at worst brass these cheap Chinese
> taps will work
>
>
>
> I think it would be possible to make leadscrew nuts for the legacy on the
> legacy
>
> I did that with the top hats but that is just my opinion
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:01 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Curt or Bill may post to that comment about the acme nuts from Delrin.
> They have taps and make their own.
>
> Stay tuned someone will jump in. LOM was making them but the last time I
> asked Cindy from Legacy they
>
> where not making them but maybe things changed.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:14 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Wow, there is a good amount of surface area but that must be also some
> good epoxy. Thanks for sharing.
>
>
>
> I do have some concerns over what join method to use and how smooth the
> transition is in this area since those delrin nuts are not as tough as I
> hoped. (Should have gotten more spares)
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 6:52 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> Here is a pic of it just before I joined it .and at the time no one
> thought it would work but I have 2 leadscrews joined my this method and
> both have never ever moved and I have to look really closely to see the
> join. I have a background in engineering of over 20 years and we used this
> method where heat could not be used because of distortion problems.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:27 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: New member introduction
>
>
>
> No I drilled one side and turned a pin on the other and glued them
> togeather with a special industrial locktight it has never moved since the
> joint is as strong as if I welded it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:07 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Thanks for the input, Bill
>
>
>
> So the join was not temporary, I assume you welded them together and
> smoothed the transition?
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 5:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> When I extended my mill I joined 2 leadscrews together
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Tim Ziegler
I here yah I was at it until 11:00 pm last night way to late lol.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 8:41 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

> Agreed.
>
> Signing off until tomorrow.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 9:14 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> Your welcome. We seem to have a delay in the internet with all the cyber
> monday shopping slowing down the stream.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 8:10 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I am looking them over now, thank you. 
>>
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 8:39 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Did the pix come through yet Jeff?
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:16 PM Jeff Richmond 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Tim, don’t go out of your way on my account. If you happen upon
>>> them, please send them over.
>>>
>>> I do have some short rails so support ideas to handle the extra
>>> length/weight are welcome.
>>>
>>>  I am still on the fence on joining two lead screws or finding a longer
>>> continuous one verses flipping the work but I have some time before that
>>> spring project has to be started.
>>>
>>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>>
>>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> OK I will dig a bit and come up with them.
>>> I finished the job and took it down until the next time.
>>> Just keep the rails and brackets handy for the next time and push the
>>> machine back
>>> to its home.
>>> Like I said I flipped my parts.
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Tim,

 Pictures would be great, if you have them.

 Jeff from Connecticut

 On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:

 
 Hey Jeff,
 I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM
 connectors
 to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a
 roller stand modified
 with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put
 holes in walls
 like other's did lol.

 I can try to find pix if you'd like???

 Kind Regards,

 Timothy J. Ziegler
 Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
 14171 160th Ave.
 Foreston MN 56330

 320-294-5798 shop
 320-630-2243 cell


 On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond 
 wrote:

> Interesting.
>
> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you
> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler 
> wrote:
>
> 
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8
> foot plus on my 1200 worked great just
> needed more supports.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental
> Mills  wrote:
>
>> Hello again Jeff
>>
>> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will
>> take some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the 
>> legacy
>> and using some time of object to hold the end of your stock.
>> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live
>> center.
>> Then latter I extended my rails.
>> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck.
>>
>> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
>> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw
>> some snow coming down today.
>>
>> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my
>> stock 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to 
>> move
>> around. I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their
>> compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what
>> generation to call these since Legacy improved something it seemed almost
>> every year for a while and came out with yet another model / package to
>> offer.
>>
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Tim Ziegler
My 2 cents worth would be possible but would it drag more  the delrin?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 8:36 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

> Thanks Bill, I wouldn’t have considered it previously but I should be able
> make delrin replacements with this tool. I do not have metal milling
> capabilities but plastic drilling/tapping should be doable.
>
> As a related question….Has anyone tried making or buying brass split nuts
> verses the delrin?
>
> Pros/cons?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 8:40 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> The taps are still out there
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/174986834390?hash=item28be0731d6:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a
>
>
>
> Because your only tapping plastic or at worst brass these cheap Chinese
> taps will work
>
>
>
> I think it would be possible to make leadscrew nuts for the legacy on the
> legacy
>
> I did that with the top hats but that is just my opinion
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:01 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Curt or Bill may post to that comment about the acme nuts from Delrin.
> They have taps and make their own.
>
> Stay tuned someone will jump in. LOM was making them but the last time I
> asked Cindy from Legacy they
>
> where not making them but maybe things changed.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:14 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Wow, there is a good amount of surface area but that must be also some
> good epoxy. Thanks for sharing.
>
>
>
> I do have some concerns over what join method to use and how smooth the
> transition is in this area since those delrin nuts are not as tough as I
> hoped. (Should have gotten more spares)
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 6:52 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> Here is a pic of it just before I joined it .and at the time no one
> thought it would work but I have 2 leadscrews joined my this method and
> both have never ever moved and I have to look really closely to see the
> join. I have a background in engineering of over 20 years and we used this
> method where heat could not be used because of distortion problems.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:27 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: New member introduction
>
>
>
> No I drilled one side and turned a pin on the other and glued them
> togeather with a special industrial locktight it has never moved since the
> joint is as strong as if I welded it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:07 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Thanks for the input, Bill
>
>
>
> So the join was not temporary, I assume you welded them together and
> smoothed the transition?
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 5:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> When I extended my mill I joined 2 leadscrews together
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:02 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Interesting.
>
>
>
> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you
> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot
> plus on my 1200 worked great just
>
> needed more supports.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
&

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Tim Ziegler
Yeah we should do a topic on that but uf way to much to keep up with
here this last couple days.
First Crickets the run away train right? lol
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 8:32 PM  wrote:

> Put some sandpaper on it and have it travel and you could sand up a smooth
> piece lol
>
>
>
> Sanding on the mill now there is another long talking subject drill or
> motor mounted sanding mops following the spiral using the gears lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 1:10 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> 3/4 industrial felt lol it worked
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:59 PM  wrote:
>
> Love your thin stock support Tim what the white bit made of
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:20 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Here is how I did it.
>
> Let me know your thoughts. It worked for me.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
>
>
> Pictures would be great, if you have them.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hey Jeff,
>
> I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM
> connectors
>
> to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller
> stand modified
>
> with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put
> holes in walls
>
> like other's did lol.
>
>
>
> I can try to find pix if you'd like???
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Interesting.
>
>
>
> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you
> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot
> plus on my 1200 worked great just
>
> needed more supports.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello again Jeff
>
>
>
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take
> some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and
> using some time of object to hold the end of your stock.
>
> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.
>
> Then latter I extended my rails.
>
> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck.
>
>
>
> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some
> snow coming down today.
>
>
>
> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock
> 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move
> around. I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their
> compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what
> generation to call these sinc

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Tim Ziegler
Jeff if your a member your in.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 8:25 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

> Being so new to the group, I am not sure I have earned a vote but I would
> be up for it on occasion.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 9:12 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> lol funny Bill,
> Well I'd organize it some Saturday or something if we'd get some interest.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 8:03 PM  wrote:
>
>> Yes no one has done that yet here I’m not sure the computer wouldn’t blow
>> up with my fat old face on it ha ha ha
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:39 PM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>>
>>
>>
>> yeah be pretty tough with family. So we do the next best thing and
>> thats email.
>>
>> Be fun to zoom with the group sometime?
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:28 PM  wrote:
>>
>> Lol at times here I wish I could
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 11:58 AM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah The more i think about it the more I think you should move here to
>> Minnesota Bill.
>>
>> We have 40 acres we could fit you on our land. As long as you bring all
>> your machinist skills with lol
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 5:52 PM  wrote:
>>
>> Here is a pic of it just before I joined it .and at the time no one
>> thought it would work but I have 2 leadscrews joined my this method and
>> both have never ever moved and I have to look really closely to see the
>> join. I have a background in engineering of over 20 years and we used this
>> method where heat could not be used because of distortion problems.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
>> bulke...@mmnet.com.au
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:27 AM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: New member introduction
>>
>>
>>
>> No I drilled one side and turned a pin on the other and glued them
>> togeather with a special industrial locktight it has never moved since the
>> joint is as strong as if I welded it
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:07 AM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the input, Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> So the join was not temporary, I assume you welded them together and
>> smoothed the transition?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 5:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> When I extended my mill I joined 2 leadscrews together
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *J

RE: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread bulkeley
I have considered it, brass would mean lubrication which could get messy but it 
would be doable. 

I think the idea was wear out the nut not the thread as that would be easier 
and cheaper to replace if I remember right.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 1:37 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Thanks Bill, I wouldn’t have considered it previously but I should be able make 
delrin replacements with this tool. I do not have metal milling capabilities 
but plastic drilling/tapping should be doable.

 

As a related question….Has anyone tried making or buying brass split nuts 
verses the delrin? 

 

Pros/cons?

 

Jeff from Connecticut





On Nov 29, 2021, at 8:40 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



The taps are still out there 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/174986834390?hash=item28be0731d6:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a

 

Because your only tapping plastic or at worst brass these cheap Chinese taps 
will work

 

I think it would be possible to make leadscrew nuts for the legacy on the 
legacy 

I did that with the top hats but that is just my opinion 

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:01 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Curt or Bill may post to that comment about the acme nuts from Delrin. They 
have taps and make their own. 

Stay tuned someone will jump in. LOM was making them but the last time I asked 
Cindy from Legacy they 

where not making them but maybe things changed. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:14 PM Jeff Richmond mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Wow, there is a good amount of surface area but that must be also some good 
epoxy. Thanks for sharing.

 

I do have some concerns over what join method to use and how smooth the 
transition is in this area since those delrin nuts are not as tough as I hoped. 
(Should have gotten more spares)

 

Jeff from Connecticut






On Nov 29, 2021, at 6:52 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



Here is a pic of it just before I joined it .and at the time no one thought it 
would work but I have 2 leadscrews joined my this method and both have never 
ever moved and I have to look really closely to see the join. I have a 
background in engineering of over 20 years and we used this method where heat 
could not be used because of distortion problems.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> 
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:27 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: New member introduction

 

No I drilled one side and turned a pin on the other and glued them togeather 
with a special industrial locktight it has never moved since the joint is as 
strong as if I welded it

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:07 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Thanks for the input, Bill

 

So the join was not temporary, I assume you welded them together and smoothed 
the transition?

 

Jeff from Connecticut

 

On Nov 29, 2021, at 5:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



When I extended my mill I joined 2 leadscrews together

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:02 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Interesting. 

 

When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you installing 
a longer one or joining them in some manner?

Jeff from Connecticut 

 

On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot plus 
on my 1200 worked 

RE: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread bulkeley
As soon as you join buddy you have a vote everybody is welcome here

(If you can put up with us lolol)

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 1:25 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Being so new to the group, I am not sure I have earned a vote but I would be up 
for it on occasion.

Jeff from Connecticut 





On Nov 29, 2021, at 9:12 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



lol funny Bill, 

Well I'd organize it some Saturday or something if we'd get some interest. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 8:03 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Yes no one has done that yet here I’m not sure the computer wouldn’t blow up 
with my fat old face on it ha ha ha

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:39 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

yeah be pretty tough with family. So we do the next best thing and thats email. 

Be fun to zoom with the group sometime?


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:28 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Lol at times here I wish I could 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 11:58 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Yeah The more i think about it the more I think you should move here to 
Minnesota Bill. 

We have 40 acres we could fit you on our land. As long as you bring all your 
machinist skills with lol




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 5:52 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Here is a pic of it just before I joined it .and at the time no one thought it 
would work but I have 2 leadscrews joined my this method and both have never 
ever moved and I have to look really closely to see the join. I have a 
background in engineering of over 20 years and we used this method where heat 
could not be used because of distortion problems.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> 
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:27 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: New member introduction

 

No I drilled one side and turned a pin on the other and glued them togeather 
with a special industrial locktight it has never moved since the joint is as 
strong as if I welded it

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:07 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Thanks for the input, Bill

 

So the join was not temporary, I assume you welded them together and smoothed 
the transition?

 

Jeff from Connecticut

 

On Nov 29, 2021, at 5:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



When I extended my mill I joined 2 leadscrews together

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:02 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Interesting. 

 

When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you installing 
a longer one or joining them in some manner?

Jeff from Connecticut 

 

On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot plus 
on my 1200

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Jeff Richmond
Agreed.

Signing off until tomorrow.

Jeff from Connecticut 

> On Nov 29, 2021, at 9:14 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Your welcome. We seem to have a delay in the internet with all the cyber 
> monday shopping slowing down the stream. 
> 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 8:10 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:
>> Yes, I am looking them over now, thank you. 
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>> 
 On Nov 29, 2021, at 8:39 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Did the pix come through yet Jeff?
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> 
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> 
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:16 PM Jeff Richmond  
 wrote:
 Thanks Tim, don’t go out of your way on my account. If you happen upon 
 them, please send them over. 
 
 I do have some short rails so support ideas to handle the extra 
 length/weight are welcome.
 
  I am still on the fence on joining two lead screws or finding a longer 
 continuous one verses flipping the work but I have some time before that 
 spring project has to be started.
 
 Jeff from Connecticut
 
>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>> 
> 
> OK I will dig a bit and come up with them. 
> I finished the job and took it down until the next time. 
> Just keep the rails and brackets handy for the next time and push the 
> machine back 
> to its home. 
> Like I said I flipped my parts. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond  
>> wrote:
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>> Pictures would be great, if you have them.
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>> 
 On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Hey Jeff, 
>>> I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM 
>>> connectors 
>>> to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a 
>>> roller stand modified 
>>> with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put 
>>> holes in walls 
>>> like other's did lol. 
>>> 
>>> I can try to find pix if you'd like???
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> 
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> 
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond  
 wrote:
 Interesting. 
 
 When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you 
 installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
 
 Jeff from Connecticut 
 
>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  
>> wrote:
>> 
> 
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 
> foot plus on my 1200 worked great just
> needed more supports. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental 
>> Mills  wrote:
>> Hello again Jeff
>> 
>> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will 
>> take some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the 
>> legacy and using some time of object to hold the end of your stock. 
>> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live 
>> center.
>> Then latter I extended my rails.
>> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 
>> 
>> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>> 
>> C.A.G.
>> 
>> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw 
>> some snow coming down today. 
>> 
>> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my 
>> stock 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear 
>> to move around. I am not familiar with the previous generation 
>> models and their compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. 
>> I am not sure what generation to call these since Legacy improved 

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Jeff Richmond
Thanks Bill, I wouldn’t have considered it previously but I should be able make 
delrin replacements with this tool. I do not have metal milling capabilities 
but plastic drilling/tapping should be doable.

As a related question….Has anyone tried making or buying brass split nuts 
verses the delrin? 

Pros/cons?

Jeff from Connecticut

> On Nov 29, 2021, at 8:40 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> The taps are still out there 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/174986834390?hash=item28be0731d6:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a
>  
> Because your only tapping plastic or at worst brass these cheap Chinese taps 
> will work
>  
> I think it would be possible to make leadscrew nuts for the legacy on the 
> legacy
> I did that with the top hats but that is just my opinion
>  
> Bill
>  
>  
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:01 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New member introduction
>  
> Curt or Bill may post to that comment about the acme nuts from Delrin. They 
> have taps and make their own. 
> Stay tuned someone will jump in. LOM was making them but the last time I 
> asked Cindy from Legacy they 
> where not making them but maybe things changed. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:14 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:
> Wow, there is a good amount of surface area but that must be also some good 
> epoxy. Thanks for sharing.
>  
> I do have some concerns over what join method to use and how smooth the 
> transition is in this area since those delrin nuts are not as tough as I 
> hoped. (Should have gotten more spares)
>  
> Jeff from Connecticut
> 
> 
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 6:52 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> Here is a pic of it just before I joined it .and at the time no one thought 
> it would work but I have 2 leadscrews joined my this method and both have 
> never ever moved and I have to look really closely to see the join. I have a 
> background in engineering of over 20 years and we used this method where heat 
> could not be used because of distortion problems.
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:27 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: New member introduction
>  
> No I drilled one side and turned a pin on the other and glued them togeather 
> with a special industrial locktight it has never moved since the joint is as 
> strong as if I welded it
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:07 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New member introduction
>  
> Thanks for the input, Bill
>  
> So the join was not temporary, I assume you welded them together and smoothed 
> the transition?
>  
> Jeff from Connecticut
>  
> 
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 5:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> When I extended my mill I joined 2 leadscrews together
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:02 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New member introduction
>  
> Interesting. 
>  
> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you 
> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
> 
> Jeff from Connecticut 
>  
> 
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot 
> plus on my 1200 worked great just
> needed more supports. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> Hello again Jeff
>  
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
> slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using 
> some time of object to hold the end of your stock. 
> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.
> Then latter I extended my rails.
> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 
>  
> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>  
> C.A.G.
>  
> On Sunday, 

RE: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread bulkeley
Put some sandpaper on it and have it travel and you could sand up a smooth 
piece lol

 

Sanding on the mill now there is another long talking subject drill or motor 
mounted sanding mops following the spiral using the gears lol

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 1:10 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

3/4 industrial felt lol it worked




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:59 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Love your thin stock support Tim what the white bit made of

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:20 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Here is how I did it. 

Let me know your thoughts. It worked for me. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Tim,

 

Pictures would be great, if you have them.

Jeff from Connecticut

 

On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hey Jeff, 

I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM connectors 

to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller stand 
modified 

with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put holes in 
walls 

like other's did lol. 

 

I can try to find pix if you'd like???




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Interesting. 

 

When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you installing 
a longer one or joining them in some manner?

Jeff from Connecticut 

 

On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot plus 
on my 1200 worked great just

needed more supports. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello again Jeff

 

Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using some 
time of object to hold the end of your stock. 

I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.

Then latter I extended my rails.

Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 

 

When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
coming down today. 

 

I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 900) 
but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move around. I am 
not familiar with the previous generation models and their compatibility with 
the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what generation to call these 
since Legacy improved something it seemed almost every year for a while and 
came out with yet another model / package to offer.

 

Jeff from Connecticut 

 

On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) mailto:legacym...@iglide.net> > wrote:

 

Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt   I 
don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good filtered mask is a must.  

The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by the 
owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with a 2 X 2 
That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in the big 
bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as we call 
them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still use my 
Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications when the 
center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have done 15 foot 
posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down to roping a tooth 
pick.  

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Jeff Richmond
Thanks Bill, will do

Jeff from Connecticut

> On Nov 29, 2021, at 8:56 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> I remember some one on the group finding legacy leadscrew threaded bar 
> somewhere but I cant remember look in the archived the post will be there 
> somewhere
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:17 PM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New member introduction
>  
> Thanks Tim, don’t go out of your way on my account. If you happen upon them, 
> please send them over. 
>  
> I do have some short rails so support ideas to handle the extra length/weight 
> are welcome.
>  
>  I am still on the fence on joining two lead screws or finding a longer 
> continuous one verses flipping the work but I have some time before that 
> spring project has to be started.
>  
> Jeff from Connecticut
> 
> 
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> OK I will dig a bit and come up with them. 
> I finished the job and took it down until the next time. 
> Just keep the rails and brackets handy for the next time and push the machine 
> back 
> to its home. 
> Like I said I flipped my parts. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:
> Hi Tim,
>  
> Pictures would be great, if you have them.
> 
> Jeff from Connecticut
> 
> 
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey Jeff, 
> I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM connectors 
> to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller 
> stand modified 
> with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put holes 
> in walls 
> like other's did lol. 
>  
> I can try to find pix if you'd like???
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:
> Interesting. 
>  
> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you 
> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
> 
> Jeff from Connecticut 
> 
> 
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot 
> plus on my 1200 worked great just
> needed more supports. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> Hello again Jeff
>  
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
> slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using 
> some time of object to hold the end of your stock. 
> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.
> Then latter I extended my rails.
> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 
>  
> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>  
> C.A.G.
>  
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
>  wrote:
>  
>  
> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
> coming down today. 
>  
> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 
> 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move around. 
> I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their compatibility 
> with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what generation to call 
> these since Legacy improved something it seemed almost every year for a while 
> and came out with yet another model / package to offer.
>  
> Jeff from Connecticut 
> 
> 
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt   
> I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good filtered mask is a 
> must. 
> 
> The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by the 
> owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with a 2 X 
> 2 That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in the big 
> bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Ste

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Jeff Richmond
Being so new to the group, I am not sure I have earned a vote but I would be up 
for it on occasion.

Jeff from Connecticut 

> On Nov 29, 2021, at 9:12 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> lol funny Bill, 
> Well I'd organize it some Saturday or something if we'd get some interest. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 8:03 PM  wrote:
>> Yes no one has done that yet here I’m not sure the computer wouldn’t blow up 
>> with my fat old face on it ha ha ha
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:39 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: New member introduction
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> yeah be pretty tough with family. So we do the next best thing and thats 
>> email. 
>> 
>> Be fun to zoom with the group sometime?
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> 
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:28 PM  wrote:
>> 
>> Lol at times here I wish I could
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 11:58 AM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: New member introduction
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Yeah The more i think about it the more I think you should move here to 
>> Minnesota Bill. 
>> 
>> We have 40 acres we could fit you on our land. As long as you bring all your 
>> machinist skills with lol
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> 
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 5:52 PM  wrote:
>> 
>> Here is a pic of it just before I joined it .and at the time no one thought 
>> it would work but I have 2 leadscrews joined my this method and both have 
>> never ever moved and I have to look really closely to see the join. I have a 
>> background in engineering of over 20 years and we used this method where 
>> heat could not be used because of distortion problems.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
>> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:27 AM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: New member introduction
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> No I drilled one side and turned a pin on the other and glued them togeather 
>> with a special industrial locktight it has never moved since the joint is as 
>> strong as if I welded it
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
>> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:07 AM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: New member introduction
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks for the input, Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> So the join was not temporary, I assume you welded them together and 
>> smoothed the transition?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 5:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> When I extended my mill I joined 2 leadscrews together
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>>  On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
>> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:02 AM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: New member introduction
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Interesting. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you 
>> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Tim Ziegler
Your welcome. We seem to have a delay in the internet with all the cyber
monday shopping slowing down the stream.


Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 8:10 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

> Yes, I am looking them over now, thank you. 
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 8:39 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> Did the pix come through yet Jeff?
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:16 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Tim, don’t go out of your way on my account. If you happen upon
>> them, please send them over.
>>
>> I do have some short rails so support ideas to handle the extra
>> length/weight are welcome.
>>
>>  I am still on the fence on joining two lead screws or finding a longer
>> continuous one verses flipping the work but I have some time before that
>> spring project has to be started.
>>
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> OK I will dig a bit and come up with them.
>> I finished the job and took it down until the next time.
>> Just keep the rails and brackets handy for the next time and push the
>> machine back
>> to its home.
>> Like I said I flipped my parts.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Tim,
>>>
>>> Pictures would be great, if you have them.
>>>
>>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>>
>>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Hey Jeff,
>>> I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM
>>> connectors
>>> to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a
>>> roller stand modified
>>> with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put
>>> holes in walls
>>> like other's did lol.
>>>
>>> I can try to find pix if you'd like???
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Interesting.

 When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you
 installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?

 Jeff from Connecticut

 On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:

 
 Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8
 foot plus on my 1200 worked great just
 needed more supports.

 Kind Regards,

 Timothy J. Ziegler
 Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
 14171 160th Ave.
 Foreston MN 56330

 320-294-5798 shop
 320-630-2243 cell


 On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental
 Mills  wrote:

> Hello again Jeff
>
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will
> take some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy
> and using some time of object to hold the end of your stock.
> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live
> center.
> Then latter I extended my rails.
> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck.
>
> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw
> some snow coming down today.
>
> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my
> stock 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to 
> move
> around. I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their
> compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what
> generation to call these since Legacy improved something it seemed almost
> every year for a while and came out with yet another model / package to
> offer.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
> legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt
>   I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good
> filtered mask is a must.
>
> The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made
> by the owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it
> with a 2 X 2 That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn
> up in the big bladed cuts.  The next 

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Tim Ziegler
For sure

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 8:07 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

> Thanks Tim,
>
> A picture is a thousand words….
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 8:20 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> Here is how I did it.
> Let me know your thoughts. It worked for me.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> Pictures would be great, if you have them.
>>
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hey Jeff,
>> I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM
>> connectors
>> to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller
>> stand modified
>> with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put
>> holes in walls
>> like other's did lol.
>>
>> I can try to find pix if you'd like???
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting.
>>>
>>> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you
>>> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>>>
>>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>>
>>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8
>>> foot plus on my 1200 worked great just
>>> needed more supports.
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental
>>> Mills  wrote:
>>>
 Hello again Jeff

 Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take
 some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and
 using some time of object to hold the end of your stock.
 I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live
 center.
 Then latter I extended my rails.
 Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck.

 When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)

 C.A.G.

 On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
 jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:


 Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some
 snow coming down today.

 I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my
 stock 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move
 around. I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their
 compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what
 generation to call these since Legacy improved something it seemed almost
 every year for a while and came out with yet another model / package to
 offer.

 Jeff from Connecticut

 On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
 legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:

 

 Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt
   I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good
 filtered mask is a must.

 The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made
 by the owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it
 with a 2 X 2 That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn
 up in the big bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the
 Steely as we call them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add
 strength.  I still use my Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way
 of modifications when the center points are raised and not trapped between
 rails.  I have done 15 foot posts and table bases with a diameter of 25"
 All the way down to roping a tooth pick.  Welcome to the group that does
 not accept "limitations"

 Mike OK
 On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:

 Hello Everyone,

 I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a
 Legacy Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and
 its capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your
 experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides.

 To add a little input to the recent group conversations

 Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which
 were well seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin /
 fingernail during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium 

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Tim Ziegler
Ok yeah Jeff wanted them

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 8:06 PM  wrote:

> The ones with your thin stock steady in it did yes
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:55 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Bill did my pics come through yet for Jeff?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:40 PM  wrote:
>
> The taps are still out there
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/174986834390?hash=item28be0731d6:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a
>
>
>
> Because your only tapping plastic or at worst brass these cheap Chinese
> taps will work
>
>
>
> I think it would be possible to make leadscrew nuts for the legacy on the
> legacy
>
> I did that with the top hats but that is just my opinion
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:01 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Curt or Bill may post to that comment about the acme nuts from Delrin.
> They have taps and make their own.
>
> Stay tuned someone will jump in. LOM was making them but the last time I
> asked Cindy from Legacy they
>
> where not making them but maybe things changed.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:14 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Wow, there is a good amount of surface area but that must be also some
> good epoxy. Thanks for sharing.
>
>
>
> I do have some concerns over what join method to use and how smooth the
> transition is in this area since those delrin nuts are not as tough as I
> hoped. (Should have gotten more spares)
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 6:52 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> Here is a pic of it just before I joined it .and at the time no one
> thought it would work but I have 2 leadscrews joined my this method and
> both have never ever moved and I have to look really closely to see the
> join. I have a background in engineering of over 20 years and we used this
> method where heat could not be used because of distortion problems.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:27 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: New member introduction
>
>
>
> No I drilled one side and turned a pin on the other and glued them
> togeather with a special industrial locktight it has never moved since the
> joint is as strong as if I welded it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:07 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Thanks for the input, Bill
>
>
>
> So the join was not temporary, I assume you welded them together and
> smoothed the transition?
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 5:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> When I extended my mill I joined 2 leadscrews together
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:02 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Interesting.
>
>
>
> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you
> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Zieg

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Tim Ziegler
lol funny Bill,
Well I'd organize it some Saturday or something if we'd get some interest.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 8:03 PM  wrote:

> Yes no one has done that yet here I’m not sure the computer wouldn’t blow
> up with my fat old face on it ha ha ha
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:39 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> yeah be pretty tough with family. So we do the next best thing and
> thats email.
>
> Be fun to zoom with the group sometime?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:28 PM  wrote:
>
> Lol at times here I wish I could
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 11:58 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Yeah The more i think about it the more I think you should move here to
> Minnesota Bill.
>
> We have 40 acres we could fit you on our land. As long as you bring all
> your machinist skills with lol
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 5:52 PM  wrote:
>
> Here is a pic of it just before I joined it .and at the time no one
> thought it would work but I have 2 leadscrews joined my this method and
> both have never ever moved and I have to look really closely to see the
> join. I have a background in engineering of over 20 years and we used this
> method where heat could not be used because of distortion problems.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:27 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: New member introduction
>
>
>
> No I drilled one side and turned a pin on the other and glued them
> togeather with a special industrial locktight it has never moved since the
> joint is as strong as if I welded it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:07 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Thanks for the input, Bill
>
>
>
> So the join was not temporary, I assume you welded them together and
> smoothed the transition?
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 5:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> When I extended my mill I joined 2 leadscrews together
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:02 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Interesting.
>
>
>
> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you
> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot
> plus on my 1200 worked great just
>
> needed more supports.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello again Jeff
>
>
>
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take
> some slight modifica

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Tim Ziegler
Yup im like you where theres a will theres a way.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 8:01 PM  wrote:

> You know me by now Tim I will try anything if I think it will work lololol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:37 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Yeah a lot of doubting Thomas's in the world right. Well I think
> its pretty ingenious Bill
>
> So hats off for another innovation success.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:27 PM  wrote:
>
> Right, just smooth up removing a tiny bit of glue overflow I’m talking
> like a half dozen strokes of a needle file, lineing it all up inside the
> nut was the trick.
>
> I didn’t do a video I’m not sure I even posted it to the group like I said
> nobody thought it would work, I think I just showed Curt and Tim K at the
> time. I had nothing too lose I would have just cleaned out all the glue and
> silver brazed it if it failed but it didn’t it’s been years now. because of
> the soft Delrin leadscrew nut I knew the joint would have to be real neat
> the pin kept the joint strait and the nut kept the thread exactly lined up.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 11:57 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> That's pretty impressive plus you didn't have to chase threads afterwards
> right?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 5:26 PM  wrote:
>
> No I drilled one side and turned a pin on the other and glued them
> togeather with a special industrial locktight it has never moved since the
> joint is as strong as if I welded it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:07 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Thanks for the input, Bill
>
>
>
> So the join was not temporary, I assume you welded them together and
> smoothed the transition?
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 5:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> When I extended my mill I joined 2 leadscrews together
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:02 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Interesting.
>
>
>
> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you
> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot
> plus on my 1200 worked great just
>
> needed more supports.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello again Jeff
>
>
>
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take
> some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and
> using some time of object to hold the end of your stock.
>
> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.
>
> Then latter I extended my rails.
>
> Mike added another lathe tail sto

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Tim Ziegler
3/4 industrial felt lol it worked

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:59 PM  wrote:

> Love your thin stock support Tim what the white bit made of
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:20 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Here is how I did it.
>
> Let me know your thoughts. It worked for me.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
>
>
> Pictures would be great, if you have them.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hey Jeff,
>
> I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM
> connectors
>
> to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller
> stand modified
>
> with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put
> holes in walls
>
> like other's did lol.
>
>
>
> I can try to find pix if you'd like???
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Interesting.
>
>
>
> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you
> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot
> plus on my 1200 worked great just
>
> needed more supports.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello again Jeff
>
>
>
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take
> some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and
> using some time of object to hold the end of your stock.
>
> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.
>
> Then latter I extended my rails.
>
> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck.
>
>
>
> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some
> snow coming down today.
>
>
>
> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock
> 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move
> around. I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their
> compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what
> generation to call these since Legacy improved something it seemed almost
> every year for a while and came out with yet another model / package to
> offer.
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt
>   I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good
> filtered mask is a must.
>
> The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by
> the owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with
> a 2 X 2 That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in
> the big bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as
> we call them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still
> use my Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications
> when the center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have
> done 15 foot posts and

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Jeff Richmond
Yes, I am looking them over now, thank you. 

Jeff from Connecticut

> On Nov 29, 2021, at 8:39 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Did the pix come through yet Jeff?
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:16 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:
>> Thanks Tim, don’t go out of your way on my account. If you happen upon them, 
>> please send them over. 
>> 
>> I do have some short rails so support ideas to handle the extra 
>> length/weight are welcome.
>> 
>>  I am still on the fence on joining two lead screws or finding a longer 
>> continuous one verses flipping the work but I have some time before that 
>> spring project has to be started.
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>> 
 On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> OK I will dig a bit and come up with them. 
>>> I finished the job and took it down until the next time. 
>>> Just keep the rails and brackets handy for the next time and push the 
>>> machine back 
>>> to its home. 
>>> Like I said I flipped my parts. 
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> 
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> 
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond  
 wrote:
 Hi Tim,
 
 Pictures would be great, if you have them.
 
 Jeff from Connecticut
 
>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>> 
> 
> Hey Jeff, 
> I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM 
> connectors 
> to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller 
> stand modified 
> with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put 
> holes in walls 
> like other's did lol. 
> 
> I can try to find pix if you'd like???
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond  
>> wrote:
>> Interesting. 
>> 
>> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you 
>> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut 
>> 
 On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  
 wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 
>>> foot plus on my 1200 worked great just
>>> needed more supports. 
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> 
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> 
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental 
 Mills  wrote:
 Hello again Jeff
 
 Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will 
 take some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the 
 legacy and using some time of object to hold the end of your stock. 
 I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live 
 center.
 Then latter I extended my rails.
 Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 
 
 When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
 
 C.A.G.
 
 On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
  wrote:
 
 
 Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw 
 some snow coming down today. 
 
 I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my 
 stock 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to 
 move around. I am not familiar with the previous generation models and 
 their compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not 
 sure what generation to call these since Legacy improved something it 
 seemed almost every year for a while and came out with yet another 
 model / package to offer.
 
 Jeff from Connecticut 
 
>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
>>  wrote:
>> 
> 
 
 Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt 
   I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good 
 filtered mask is a must.  
 
 The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made 
 by the owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced 
 it with a 2 X 2 That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that 
 would turn up in the big 

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Jeff Richmond
Thanks Tim, 

A picture is a thousand words….

Jeff from Connecticut

> On Nov 29, 2021, at 8:20 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Here is how I did it. 
> Let me know your thoughts. It worked for me. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>> Pictures would be great, if you have them.
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>> 
 On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Hey Jeff, 
>>> I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM 
>>> connectors 
>>> to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller 
>>> stand modified 
>>> with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put 
>>> holes in walls 
>>> like other's did lol. 
>>> 
>>> I can try to find pix if you'd like???
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> 
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> 
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond  
 wrote:
 Interesting. 
 
 When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you 
 installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
 
 Jeff from Connecticut 
 
>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>> 
> 
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 
> foot plus on my 1200 worked great just
> needed more supports. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental 
>> Mills  wrote:
>> Hello again Jeff
>> 
>> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take 
>> some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy 
>> and using some time of object to hold the end of your stock. 
>> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live 
>> center.
>> Then latter I extended my rails.
>> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 
>> 
>> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>> 
>> C.A.G.
>> 
>> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some 
>> snow coming down today. 
>> 
>> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my 
>> stock 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to 
>> move around. I am not familiar with the previous generation models and 
>> their compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure 
>> what generation to call these since Legacy improved something it seemed 
>> almost every year for a while and came out with yet another model / 
>> package to offer.
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut 
>> 
 On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
  wrote:
 
>>> 
>> 
>> Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt 
>>   I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good 
>> filtered mask is a must.  
>> 
>> The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made 
>> by the owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced 
>> it with a 2 X 2 That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would 
>> turn up in the big bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was 
>> the Steely as we call them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add 
>> strength.  I still use my Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the 
>> way of modifications when the center points are raised and not trapped 
>> between rails.  I have done 15 foot posts and table bases with a 
>> diameter of 25" All the way down to roping a tooth pick.  Welcome to the 
>> group that does not accept "limitations"
>> 
>> Mike OK
>> 
>> On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a 
>>> Legacy Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool 
>>> and its capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing 
>>> offering your experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this 
>>> provides. 
>>> 
>>> To add a little input to the recent group conversations
>>> 
>>> Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which 
>>> were well seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin 
>>> / 

RE: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread bulkeley
The ones with your thin stock steady in it did yes

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:55 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Bill did my pics come through yet for Jeff?




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:40 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

The taps are still out there 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/174986834390?hash=item28be0731d6:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a

 

Because your only tapping plastic or at worst brass these cheap Chinese taps 
will work

 

I think it would be possible to make leadscrew nuts for the legacy on the 
legacy 

I did that with the top hats but that is just my opinion 

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:01 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Curt or Bill may post to that comment about the acme nuts from Delrin. They 
have taps and make their own. 

Stay tuned someone will jump in. LOM was making them but the last time I asked 
Cindy from Legacy they 

where not making them but maybe things changed. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:14 PM Jeff Richmond mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Wow, there is a good amount of surface area but that must be also some good 
epoxy. Thanks for sharing.

 

I do have some concerns over what join method to use and how smooth the 
transition is in this area since those delrin nuts are not as tough as I hoped. 
(Should have gotten more spares)

 

Jeff from Connecticut

 

On Nov 29, 2021, at 6:52 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



Here is a pic of it just before I joined it .and at the time no one thought it 
would work but I have 2 leadscrews joined my this method and both have never 
ever moved and I have to look really closely to see the join. I have a 
background in engineering of over 20 years and we used this method where heat 
could not be used because of distortion problems.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> 
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:27 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: New member introduction

 

No I drilled one side and turned a pin on the other and glued them togeather 
with a special industrial locktight it has never moved since the joint is as 
strong as if I welded it

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:07 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Thanks for the input, Bill

 

So the join was not temporary, I assume you welded them together and smoothed 
the transition?

 

Jeff from Connecticut

 

On Nov 29, 2021, at 5:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



When I extended my mill I joined 2 leadscrews together

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:02 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Interesting. 

 

When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you installing 
a longer one or joining them in some manner?

Jeff from Connecticut 

 

On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot plus 
on my 1200 worked great just

needed more supports. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

Hello again Jeff

 

Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only tur

RE: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread bulkeley
Yes no one has done that yet here I’m not sure the computer wouldn’t blow up 
with my fat old face on it ha ha ha

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:39 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

yeah be pretty tough with family. So we do the next best thing and thats email. 

Be fun to zoom with the group sometime?


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:28 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Lol at times here I wish I could 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 11:58 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Yeah The more i think about it the more I think you should move here to 
Minnesota Bill. 

We have 40 acres we could fit you on our land. As long as you bring all your 
machinist skills with lol




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 5:52 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Here is a pic of it just before I joined it .and at the time no one thought it 
would work but I have 2 leadscrews joined my this method and both have never 
ever moved and I have to look really closely to see the join. I have a 
background in engineering of over 20 years and we used this method where heat 
could not be used because of distortion problems.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> 
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:27 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: New member introduction

 

No I drilled one side and turned a pin on the other and glued them togeather 
with a special industrial locktight it has never moved since the joint is as 
strong as if I welded it

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:07 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Thanks for the input, Bill

 

So the join was not temporary, I assume you welded them together and smoothed 
the transition?

 

Jeff from Connecticut

 

On Nov 29, 2021, at 5:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



When I extended my mill I joined 2 leadscrews together

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:02 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Interesting. 

 

When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you installing 
a longer one or joining them in some manner?

Jeff from Connecticut 

 

On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot plus 
on my 1200 worked great just

needed more supports. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello again Jeff

 

Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using some 
time of object to hold the end of your stock. 

I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.

Then latter I extended my rails.

Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 

 

When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
coming down today. 

 

I have a goal of b

RE: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread bulkeley
You know me by now Tim I will try anything if I think it will work lololol

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:37 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Yeah a lot of doubting Thomas's in the world right. Well I think its pretty 
ingenious Bill

So hats off for another innovation success. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:27 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Right, just smooth up removing a tiny bit of glue overflow I’m talking like a 
half dozen strokes of a needle file, lineing it all up inside the nut was the 
trick.

I didn’t do a video I’m not sure I even posted it to the group like I said 
nobody thought it would work, I think I just showed Curt and Tim K at the time. 
I had nothing too lose I would have just cleaned out all the glue and silver 
brazed it if it failed but it didn’t it’s been years now. because of the soft 
Delrin leadscrew nut I knew the joint would have to be real neat the pin kept 
the joint strait and the nut kept the thread exactly lined up.

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 11:57 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

That's pretty impressive plus you didn't have to chase threads afterwards right?


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 5:26 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

No I drilled one side and turned a pin on the other and glued them togeather 
with a special industrial locktight it has never moved since the joint is as 
strong as if I welded it

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:07 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Thanks for the input, Bill

 

So the join was not temporary, I assume you welded them together and smoothed 
the transition?

 

Jeff from Connecticut

 

On Nov 29, 2021, at 5:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



When I extended my mill I joined 2 leadscrews together

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:02 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Interesting. 

 

When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you installing 
a longer one or joining them in some manner?

Jeff from Connecticut 

 

On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot plus 
on my 1200 worked great just

needed more supports. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello again Jeff

 

Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using some 
time of object to hold the end of your stock. 

I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.

Then latter I extended my rails.

Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 

 

When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
coming down today. 

 

I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 900) 
but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move around. I am 
not familiar with the previous generation models and their compatibility with 
the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what generation to call these 
since Legacy improved something it seeme

RE: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread bulkeley
Love your thin stock support Tim what the white bit made of

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:20 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Here is how I did it. 

Let me know your thoughts. It worked for me. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Tim,

 

Pictures would be great, if you have them.

Jeff from Connecticut





On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hey Jeff, 

I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM connectors 

to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller stand 
modified 

with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put holes in 
walls 

like other's did lol. 

 

I can try to find pix if you'd like???




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Interesting. 

 

When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you installing 
a longer one or joining them in some manner?

Jeff from Connecticut 





On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot plus 
on my 1200 worked great just

needed more supports. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello again Jeff

 

Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using some 
time of object to hold the end of your stock. 

I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.

Then latter I extended my rails.

Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 

 

When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
coming down today. 

 

I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 900) 
but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move around. I am 
not familiar with the previous generation models and their compatibility with 
the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what generation to call these 
since Legacy improved something it seemed almost every year for a while and 
came out with yet another model / package to offer.

 

Jeff from Connecticut 





On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) mailto:legacym...@iglide.net> > wrote:

 

Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt   I 
don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good filtered mask is a must.  

The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by the 
owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with a 2 X 2 
That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in the big 
bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as we call 
them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still use my 
Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications when the 
center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have done 15 foot 
posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down to roping a tooth 
pick.  Welcome to the group that does not accept "limitations"

Mike OK

On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:

Hello Everyone, 

 

I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy 
Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its 
capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your 
experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides. 

 

To add a little input to the recent group conversations

 

Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were well 
seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin / fingernail 
during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I prefer to focus 
on.

 

Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and accessories 
for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another (a

RE: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread bulkeley
I remember some one on the group finding legacy leadscrew threaded bar 
somewhere but I cant remember look in the archived the post will be there 
somewhere 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:17 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Thanks Tim, don’t go out of your way on my account. If you happen upon them, 
please send them over. 

 

I do have some short rails so support ideas to handle the extra length/weight 
are welcome.

 

 I am still on the fence on joining two lead screws or finding a longer 
continuous one verses flipping the work but I have some time before that spring 
project has to be started.

 

Jeff from Connecticut





On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



OK I will dig a bit and come up with them. 

I finished the job and took it down until the next time. 

Just keep the rails and brackets handy for the next time and push the machine 
back 

to its home. 

Like I said I flipped my parts. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Tim,

 

Pictures would be great, if you have them.

Jeff from Connecticut





On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hey Jeff, 

I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM connectors 

to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller stand 
modified 

with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put holes in 
walls 

like other's did lol. 

 

I can try to find pix if you'd like???




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Interesting. 

 

When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you installing 
a longer one or joining them in some manner?

Jeff from Connecticut 





On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot plus 
on my 1200 worked great just

needed more supports. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello again Jeff

 

Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using some 
time of object to hold the end of your stock. 

I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.

Then latter I extended my rails.

Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 

 

When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
coming down today. 

 

I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 900) 
but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move around. I am 
not familiar with the previous generation models and their compatibility with 
the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what generation to call these 
since Legacy improved something it seemed almost every year for a while and 
came out with yet another model / package to offer.

 

Jeff from Connecticut 





On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) mailto:legacym...@iglide.net> > wrote:

 

Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt   I 
don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good filtered mask is a must.  

The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by the 
owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with a 2 X 2 
That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in the big 
bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as we call 
them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still use my 
Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications when the 
center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have done 15 foot 
posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down to roping a tooth 
pick.  Welcome to the group that does not accept "limitations"

Mike OK

On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmon

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Tim Ziegler
Bill did my pics come through yet for Jeff?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:40 PM  wrote:

> The taps are still out there
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/174986834390?hash=item28be0731d6:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a
>
>
>
> Because your only tapping plastic or at worst brass these cheap Chinese
> taps will work
>
>
>
> I think it would be possible to make leadscrew nuts for the legacy on the
> legacy
>
> I did that with the top hats but that is just my opinion
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:01 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Curt or Bill may post to that comment about the acme nuts from Delrin.
> They have taps and make their own.
>
> Stay tuned someone will jump in. LOM was making them but the last time I
> asked Cindy from Legacy they
>
> where not making them but maybe things changed.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:14 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Wow, there is a good amount of surface area but that must be also some
> good epoxy. Thanks for sharing.
>
>
>
> I do have some concerns over what join method to use and how smooth the
> transition is in this area since those delrin nuts are not as tough as I
> hoped. (Should have gotten more spares)
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 6:52 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> Here is a pic of it just before I joined it .and at the time no one
> thought it would work but I have 2 leadscrews joined my this method and
> both have never ever moved and I have to look really closely to see the
> join. I have a background in engineering of over 20 years and we used this
> method where heat could not be used because of distortion problems.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:27 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: New member introduction
>
>
>
> No I drilled one side and turned a pin on the other and glued them
> togeather with a special industrial locktight it has never moved since the
> joint is as strong as if I welded it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:07 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Thanks for the input, Bill
>
>
>
> So the join was not temporary, I assume you welded them together and
> smoothed the transition?
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 5:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> When I extended my mill I joined 2 leadscrews together
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:02 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Interesting.
>
>
>
> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you
> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot
> plus on my 1200 worked great just
>
> needed more supports.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello again Jeff
>
>
>
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take
> some slight modifications

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Tim Ziegler
I would guess we could turn them yes
I'm pretty confident you could Bill but I'm afraid I'm a long way
from that yet.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:40 PM  wrote:

> The taps are still out there
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/174986834390?hash=item28be0731d6:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a
>
>
>
> Because your only tapping plastic or at worst brass these cheap Chinese
> taps will work
>
>
>
> I think it would be possible to make leadscrew nuts for the legacy on the
> legacy
>
> I did that with the top hats but that is just my opinion
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:01 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Curt or Bill may post to that comment about the acme nuts from Delrin.
> They have taps and make their own.
>
> Stay tuned someone will jump in. LOM was making them but the last time I
> asked Cindy from Legacy they
>
> where not making them but maybe things changed.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:14 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
> Wow, there is a good amount of surface area but that must be also some
> good epoxy. Thanks for sharing.
>
>
>
> I do have some concerns over what join method to use and how smooth the
> transition is in this area since those delrin nuts are not as tough as I
> hoped. (Should have gotten more spares)
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 6:52 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> Here is a pic of it just before I joined it .and at the time no one
> thought it would work but I have 2 leadscrews joined my this method and
> both have never ever moved and I have to look really closely to see the
> join. I have a background in engineering of over 20 years and we used this
> method where heat could not be used because of distortion problems.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:27 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: New member introduction
>
>
>
> No I drilled one side and turned a pin on the other and glued them
> togeather with a special industrial locktight it has never moved since the
> joint is as strong as if I welded it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:07 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Thanks for the input, Bill
>
>
>
> So the join was not temporary, I assume you welded them together and
> smoothed the transition?
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 5:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> When I extended my mill I joined 2 leadscrews together
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:02 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Interesting.
>
>
>
> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you
> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot
> plus on my 1200 worked great just
>
> needed more supports.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello again Jeff
>
>
>
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post i

RE: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread bulkeley
The taps are still out there 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/174986834390?hash=item28be0731d6:g:zNUAAOSwGk5f4Z1a

 

Because your only tapping plastic or at worst brass these cheap Chinese taps 
will work

 

I think it would be possible to make leadscrew nuts for the legacy on the 
legacy 

I did that with the top hats but that is just my opinion 

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 12:01 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Curt or Bill may post to that comment about the acme nuts from Delrin. They 
have taps and make their own. 

Stay tuned someone will jump in. LOM was making them but the last time I asked 
Cindy from Legacy they 

where not making them but maybe things changed. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:14 PM Jeff Richmond mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Wow, there is a good amount of surface area but that must be also some good 
epoxy. Thanks for sharing.

 

I do have some concerns over what join method to use and how smooth the 
transition is in this area since those delrin nuts are not as tough as I hoped. 
(Should have gotten more spares)

 

Jeff from Connecticut





On Nov 29, 2021, at 6:52 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



Here is a pic of it just before I joined it .and at the time no one thought it 
would work but I have 2 leadscrews joined my this method and both have never 
ever moved and I have to look really closely to see the join. I have a 
background in engineering of over 20 years and we used this method where heat 
could not be used because of distortion problems.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> 
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:27 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: New member introduction

 

No I drilled one side and turned a pin on the other and glued them togeather 
with a special industrial locktight it has never moved since the joint is as 
strong as if I welded it

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:07 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Thanks for the input, Bill

 

So the join was not temporary, I assume you welded them together and smoothed 
the transition?

 

Jeff from Connecticut

 

On Nov 29, 2021, at 5:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



When I extended my mill I joined 2 leadscrews together

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:02 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Interesting. 

 

When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you installing 
a longer one or joining them in some manner?

Jeff from Connecticut 

 

On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot plus 
on my 1200 worked great just

needed more supports. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello again Jeff

 

Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using some 
time of object to hold the end of your stock. 

I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.

Then latter I extended my rails.

Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 

 

When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
coming down today. 

 

I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the 

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Tim Ziegler
Did the pix come through yet Jeff?
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:16 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

> Thanks Tim, don’t go out of your way on my account. If you happen upon
> them, please send them over.
>
> I do have some short rails so support ideas to handle the extra
> length/weight are welcome.
>
>  I am still on the fence on joining two lead screws or finding a longer
> continuous one verses flipping the work but I have some time before that
> spring project has to be started.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> OK I will dig a bit and come up with them.
> I finished the job and took it down until the next time.
> Just keep the rails and brackets handy for the next time and push the
> machine back
> to its home.
> Like I said I flipped my parts.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> Pictures would be great, if you have them.
>>
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hey Jeff,
>> I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM
>> connectors
>> to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller
>> stand modified
>> with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put
>> holes in walls
>> like other's did lol.
>>
>> I can try to find pix if you'd like???
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting.
>>>
>>> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you
>>> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>>>
>>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>>
>>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8
>>> foot plus on my 1200 worked great just
>>> needed more supports.
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental
>>> Mills  wrote:
>>>
 Hello again Jeff

 Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take
 some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and
 using some time of object to hold the end of your stock.
 I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live
 center.
 Then latter I extended my rails.
 Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck.

 When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)

 C.A.G.

 On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
 jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:


 Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some
 snow coming down today.

 I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my
 stock 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move
 around. I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their
 compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what
 generation to call these since Legacy improved something it seemed almost
 every year for a while and came out with yet another model / package to
 offer.

 Jeff from Connecticut

 On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
 legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:

 

 Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt
   I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good
 filtered mask is a must.

 The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made
 by the owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it
 with a 2 X 2 That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn
 up in the big bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the
 Steely as we call them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add
 strength.  I still use my Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way
 of modifications when the center points are raised and not trapped between
 rails.  I have done 15 foot posts and table bases with a diameter of 25"
 All the way down to roping a tooth pick.  Welcome to the group that does
 not accept "limitations"

 Mike OK
 On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:

 Hello Everyone,

 I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Tim Ziegler
yeah be pretty tough with family. So we do the next best thing and
thats email.
Be fun to zoom with the group sometime?
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:28 PM  wrote:

> Lol at times here I wish I could
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 11:58 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Yeah The more i think about it the more I think you should move here to
> Minnesota Bill.
>
> We have 40 acres we could fit you on our land. As long as you bring all
> your machinist skills with lol
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 5:52 PM  wrote:
>
> Here is a pic of it just before I joined it .and at the time no one
> thought it would work but I have 2 leadscrews joined my this method and
> both have never ever moved and I have to look really closely to see the
> join. I have a background in engineering of over 20 years and we used this
> method where heat could not be used because of distortion problems.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:27 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: New member introduction
>
>
>
> No I drilled one side and turned a pin on the other and glued them
> togeather with a special industrial locktight it has never moved since the
> joint is as strong as if I welded it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:07 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Thanks for the input, Bill
>
>
>
> So the join was not temporary, I assume you welded them together and
> smoothed the transition?
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 5:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> When I extended my mill I joined 2 leadscrews together
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:02 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Interesting.
>
>
>
> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you
> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot
> plus on my 1200 worked great just
>
> needed more supports.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello again Jeff
>
>
>
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take
> some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and
> using some time of object to hold the end of your stock.
>
> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.
>
> Then latter I extended my rails.
>
> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck.
>
>
>
> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some
> snow coming down today.
>
>
>
> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock
> 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move
> around. I am not familiar with the p

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Tim Ziegler
Yeah a lot of doubting Thomas's in the world right. Well I think its pretty
ingenious Bill
So hats off for another innovation success.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:27 PM  wrote:

> Right, just smooth up removing a tiny bit of glue overflow I’m talking
> like a half dozen strokes of a needle file, lineing it all up inside the
> nut was the trick.
>
> I didn’t do a video I’m not sure I even posted it to the group like I said
> nobody thought it would work, I think I just showed Curt and Tim K at the
> time. I had nothing too lose I would have just cleaned out all the glue and
> silver brazed it if it failed but it didn’t it’s been years now. because of
> the soft Delrin leadscrew nut I knew the joint would have to be real neat
> the pin kept the joint strait and the nut kept the thread exactly lined up.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 11:57 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> That's pretty impressive plus you didn't have to chase threads afterwards
> right?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 5:26 PM  wrote:
>
> No I drilled one side and turned a pin on the other and glued them
> togeather with a special industrial locktight it has never moved since the
> joint is as strong as if I welded it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:07 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Thanks for the input, Bill
>
>
>
> So the join was not temporary, I assume you welded them together and
> smoothed the transition?
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 5:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> When I extended my mill I joined 2 leadscrews together
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:02 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Interesting.
>
>
>
> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you
> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot
> plus on my 1200 worked great just
>
> needed more supports.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello again Jeff
>
>
>
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take
> some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and
> using some time of object to hold the end of your stock.
>
> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.
>
> Then latter I extended my rails.
>
> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck.
>
>
>
> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some
> snow coming down today.
>
>
>
> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock
> 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move
> around. I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their
> compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what
> generation to call these since Legacy improved something it seemed almost
> every yea

RE: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread bulkeley
Lol at times here I wish I could 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 11:58 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Yeah The more i think about it the more I think you should move here to 
Minnesota Bill. 

We have 40 acres we could fit you on our land. As long as you bring all your 
machinist skills with lol




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 5:52 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Here is a pic of it just before I joined it .and at the time no one thought it 
would work but I have 2 leadscrews joined my this method and both have never 
ever moved and I have to look really closely to see the join. I have a 
background in engineering of over 20 years and we used this method where heat 
could not be used because of distortion problems.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> 
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:27 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: New member introduction

 

No I drilled one side and turned a pin on the other and glued them togeather 
with a special industrial locktight it has never moved since the joint is as 
strong as if I welded it

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:07 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Thanks for the input, Bill

 

So the join was not temporary, I assume you welded them together and smoothed 
the transition?

 

Jeff from Connecticut

 

On Nov 29, 2021, at 5:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



When I extended my mill I joined 2 leadscrews together

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:02 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Interesting. 

 

When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you installing 
a longer one or joining them in some manner?

Jeff from Connecticut 

 

On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot plus 
on my 1200 worked great just

needed more supports. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello again Jeff

 

Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using some 
time of object to hold the end of your stock. 

I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.

Then latter I extended my rails.

Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 

 

When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
coming down today. 

 

I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 900) 
but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move around. I am 
not familiar with the previous generation models and their compatibility with 
the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what generation to call these 
since Legacy improved something it seemed almost every year for a while and 
came out with yet another model / package to offer.

 

Jeff from Connecticut 

 

On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) mailto:legacym...@iglide.net> > wrote:

 

Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt   I 
don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good filtered mask is a must.  

The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by the 
owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and repl

RE: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread bulkeley
Right, just smooth up removing a tiny bit of glue overflow I’m talking like a 
half dozen strokes of a needle file, lineing it all up inside the nut was the 
trick.

I didn’t do a video I’m not sure I even posted it to the group like I said 
nobody thought it would work, I think I just showed Curt and Tim K at the time. 
I had nothing too lose I would have just cleaned out all the glue and silver 
brazed it if it failed but it didn’t it’s been years now. because of the soft 
Delrin leadscrew nut I knew the joint would have to be real neat the pin kept 
the joint strait and the nut kept the thread exactly lined up.

 

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 11:57 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

That's pretty impressive plus you didn't have to chase threads afterwards right?


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 5:26 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

No I drilled one side and turned a pin on the other and glued them togeather 
with a special industrial locktight it has never moved since the joint is as 
strong as if I welded it

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:07 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Thanks for the input, Bill

 

So the join was not temporary, I assume you welded them together and smoothed 
the transition?

 

Jeff from Connecticut

 

On Nov 29, 2021, at 5:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



When I extended my mill I joined 2 leadscrews together

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:02 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Interesting. 

 

When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you installing 
a longer one or joining them in some manner?

Jeff from Connecticut 





On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot plus 
on my 1200 worked great just

needed more supports. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello again Jeff

 

Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using some 
time of object to hold the end of your stock. 

I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.

Then latter I extended my rails.

Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 

 

When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
coming down today. 

 

I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 900) 
but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move around. I am 
not familiar with the previous generation models and their compatibility with 
the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what generation to call these 
since Legacy improved something it seemed almost every year for a while and 
came out with yet another model / package to offer.

 

Jeff from Connecticut 





On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) mailto:legacym...@iglide.net> > wrote:

 

Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt   I 
don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good filtered mask is a must.  

The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by the 
owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with a 2 X 2 
That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in the big 
bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as we call 
them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still use my 
Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications w

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Tim Ziegler
Yeah, I'm pretty sure you can buy longer lengths it will just be who will
ship it. most have limits but motor freight would be an
option or having Grainger order in and do a will call pick up.
Pic's should be there shortly I sent 4.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:16 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

> Thanks Tim, don’t go out of your way on my account. If you happen upon
> them, please send them over.
>
> I do have some short rails so support ideas to handle the extra
> length/weight are welcome.
>
>  I am still on the fence on joining two lead screws or finding a longer
> continuous one verses flipping the work but I have some time before that
> spring project has to be started.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> OK I will dig a bit and come up with them.
> I finished the job and took it down until the next time.
> Just keep the rails and brackets handy for the next time and push the
> machine back
> to its home.
> Like I said I flipped my parts.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> Pictures would be great, if you have them.
>>
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hey Jeff,
>> I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM
>> connectors
>> to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller
>> stand modified
>> with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put
>> holes in walls
>> like other's did lol.
>>
>> I can try to find pix if you'd like???
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting.
>>>
>>> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you
>>> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>>>
>>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>>
>>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8
>>> foot plus on my 1200 worked great just
>>> needed more supports.
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental
>>> Mills  wrote:
>>>
 Hello again Jeff

 Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take
 some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and
 using some time of object to hold the end of your stock.
 I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live
 center.
 Then latter I extended my rails.
 Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck.

 When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)

 C.A.G.

 On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
 jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:


 Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some
 snow coming down today.

 I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my
 stock 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move
 around. I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their
 compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what
 generation to call these since Legacy improved something it seemed almost
 every year for a while and came out with yet another model / package to
 offer.

 Jeff from Connecticut

 On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
 legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:

 

 Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt
   I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good
 filtered mask is a must.

 The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made
 by the owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it
 with a 2 X 2 That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn
 up in the big bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the
 Steely as we call them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add
 strength.  I still use my Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way
 of modifications when the center points are raised and not trapped between
 rails.  I have done 15 foot posts and table bases with a diameter of 25"
 All the way down to roping a tooth pick.  Welcome to the group that does

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Jeff Richmond
Thanks Tim, don’t go out of your way on my account. If you happen upon them, 
please send them over. 

I do have some short rails so support ideas to handle the extra length/weight 
are welcome.

 I am still on the fence on joining two lead screws or finding a longer 
continuous one verses flipping the work but I have some time before that spring 
project has to be started.

Jeff from Connecticut

> On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:55 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> OK I will dig a bit and come up with them. 
> I finished the job and took it down until the next time. 
> Just keep the rails and brackets handy for the next time and push the machine 
> back 
> to its home. 
> Like I said I flipped my parts. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>> Pictures would be great, if you have them.
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>> 
 On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Hey Jeff, 
>>> I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM 
>>> connectors 
>>> to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller 
>>> stand modified 
>>> with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put 
>>> holes in walls 
>>> like other's did lol. 
>>> 
>>> I can try to find pix if you'd like???
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> 
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> 
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond  
 wrote:
 Interesting. 
 
 When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you 
 installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
 
 Jeff from Connecticut 
 
>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>> 
> 
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 
> foot plus on my 1200 worked great just
> needed more supports. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental 
>> Mills  wrote:
>> Hello again Jeff
>> 
>> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take 
>> some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy 
>> and using some time of object to hold the end of your stock. 
>> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live 
>> center.
>> Then latter I extended my rails.
>> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 
>> 
>> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>> 
>> C.A.G.
>> 
>> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some 
>> snow coming down today. 
>> 
>> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my 
>> stock 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to 
>> move around. I am not familiar with the previous generation models and 
>> their compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure 
>> what generation to call these since Legacy improved something it seemed 
>> almost every year for a while and came out with yet another model / 
>> package to offer.
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut 
>> 
 On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
  wrote:
 
>>> 
>> 
>> Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt 
>>   I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good 
>> filtered mask is a must.  
>> 
>> The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made 
>> by the owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced 
>> it with a 2 X 2 That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would 
>> turn up in the big bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was 
>> the Steely as we call them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add 
>> strength.  I still use my Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the 
>> way of modifications when the center points are raised and not trapped 
>> between rails.  I have done 15 foot posts and table bases with a 
>> diameter of 25" All the way down to roping a tooth pick.  Welcome to the 
>> group that does not accept "limitations"
>> 
>> Mike OK
>> 
>> On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a 

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Tim Ziegler
Curt or Bill may post to that comment about the acme nuts from Delrin. They
have taps and make their own.
Stay tuned someone will jump in. LOM was making them but the last time I
asked Cindy from Legacy they
where not making them but maybe things changed.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:14 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

> Wow, there is a good amount of surface area but that must be also some
> good epoxy. Thanks for sharing.
>
> I do have some concerns over what join method to use and how smooth the
> transition is in this area since those delrin nuts are not as tough as I
> hoped. (Should have gotten more spares)
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 6:52 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> Here is a pic of it just before I joined it .and at the time no one
> thought it would work but I have 2 leadscrews joined my this method and
> both have never ever moved and I have to look really closely to see the
> join. I have a background in engineering of over 20 years and we used this
> method where heat could not be used because of distortion problems.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:27 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: New member introduction
>
>
>
> No I drilled one side and turned a pin on the other and glued them
> togeather with a special industrial locktight it has never moved since the
> joint is as strong as if I welded it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:07 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Thanks for the input, Bill
>
>
>
> So the join was not temporary, I assume you welded them together and
> smoothed the transition?
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 5:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> When I extended my mill I joined 2 leadscrews together
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:02 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Interesting.
>
>
>
> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you
> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot
> plus on my 1200 worked great just
>
> needed more supports.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello again Jeff
>
>
>
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take
> some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and
> using some time of object to hold the end of your stock.
>
> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.
>
> Then latter I extended my rails.
>
> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck.
>
>
>
> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some
> snow coming down today.
>
>
>
> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock
> 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move
> around. I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their
> compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what
> generation to call these since Legacy improved something it seemed almost
> every year for a while and came out with yet another model / package to
> offer.
>
>
>
> Jeff from Co

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Tim Ziegler
Yeah The more i think about it the more I think you should move here to
Minnesota Bill.
We have 40 acres we could fit you on our land. As long as you bring all
your machinist skills with lol

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 5:52 PM  wrote:

> Here is a pic of it just before I joined it .and at the time no one
> thought it would work but I have 2 leadscrews joined my this method and
> both have never ever moved and I have to look really closely to see the
> join. I have a background in engineering of over 20 years and we used this
> method where heat could not be used because of distortion problems.
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *
> bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:27 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: New member introduction
>
>
>
> No I drilled one side and turned a pin on the other and glued them
> togeather with a special industrial locktight it has never moved since the
> joint is as strong as if I welded it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:07 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Thanks for the input, Bill
>
>
>
> So the join was not temporary, I assume you welded them together and
> smoothed the transition?
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 5:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> When I extended my mill I joined 2 leadscrews together
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:02 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Interesting.
>
>
>
> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you
> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot
> plus on my 1200 worked great just
>
> needed more supports.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello again Jeff
>
>
>
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take
> some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and
> using some time of object to hold the end of your stock.
>
> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.
>
> Then latter I extended my rails.
>
> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck.
>
>
>
> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some
> snow coming down today.
>
>
>
> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock
> 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move
> around. I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their
> compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what
> generation to call these since Legacy improved something it seemed almost
> every year for a while and came out with yet another model / package to
> offer.
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt
>   I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good
> filtered mask is a must.
>
> The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by
> the owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with
> a 2 X 2 That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway 

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Tim Ziegler
That's pretty impressive plus you didn't have to chase threads afterwards
right?
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 5:26 PM  wrote:

> No I drilled one side and turned a pin on the other and glued them
> togeather with a special industrial locktight it has never moved since the
> joint is as strong as if I welded it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:07 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Thanks for the input, Bill
>
>
>
> So the join was not temporary, I assume you welded them together and
> smoothed the transition?
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 5:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> When I extended my mill I joined 2 leadscrews together
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:02 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Interesting.
>
>
>
> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you
> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot
> plus on my 1200 worked great just
>
> needed more supports.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello again Jeff
>
>
>
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take
> some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and
> using some time of object to hold the end of your stock.
>
> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.
>
> Then latter I extended my rails.
>
> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck.
>
>
>
> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some
> snow coming down today.
>
>
>
> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock
> 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move
> around. I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their
> compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what
> generation to call these since Legacy improved something it seemed almost
> every year for a while and came out with yet another model / package to
> offer.
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt
>   I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good
> filtered mask is a must.
>
> The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by
> the owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with
> a 2 X 2 That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in
> the big bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as
> we call them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still
> use my Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications
> when the center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have
> done 15 foot posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down
> to roping a tooth pick.  Welcome to the group that does not accept
> "limitations"
>
> Mike OK
>
> On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
>
>
> I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy
> Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its
> capabilities. Thanks in advanc

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Tim Ziegler
OK I will dig a bit and come up with them.
I finished the job and took it down until the next time.
Just keep the rails and brackets handy for the next time and push the
machine back
to its home.
Like I said I flipped my parts.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 4:16 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

> Hi Tim,
>
> Pictures would be great, if you have them.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> Hey Jeff,
> I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM
> connectors
> to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller
> stand modified
> with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put
> holes in walls
> like other's did lol.
>
> I can try to find pix if you'd like???
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
>> Interesting.
>>
>> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you
>> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>>
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>
>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8
>> foot plus on my 1200 worked great just
>> needed more supports.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello again Jeff
>>>
>>> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take
>>> some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and
>>> using some time of object to hold the end of your stock.
>>> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live
>>> center.
>>> Then latter I extended my rails.
>>> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck.
>>>
>>> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
>>> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some
>>> snow coming down today.
>>>
>>> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my
>>> stock 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move
>>> around. I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their
>>> compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what
>>> generation to call these since Legacy improved something it seemed almost
>>> every year for a while and came out with yet another model / package to
>>> offer.
>>>
>>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>>
>>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
>>> legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt
>>>   I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good
>>> filtered mask is a must.
>>>
>>> The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made
>>> by the owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it
>>> with a 2 X 2 That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn
>>> up in the big bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the
>>> Steely as we call them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add
>>> strength.  I still use my Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way
>>> of modifications when the center points are raised and not trapped between
>>> rails.  I have done 15 foot posts and table bases with a diameter of 25"
>>> All the way down to roping a tooth pick.  Welcome to the group that does
>>> not accept "limitations"
>>>
>>> Mike OK
>>> On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>
>>> I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a
>>> Legacy Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and
>>> its capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your
>>> experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides.
>>>
>>> To add a little input to the recent group conversations
>>>
>>> Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which
>>> were well seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin /
>>> fingernail during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I
>>> prefer to focus on.
>>>
>>> Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and
>>> accessories for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another
>>> (at least that what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I
>>> did bump into this one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It 

RE: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread bulkeley
I understand I felt the same way welding would take a great deal of work to get 
a smooth joint

Mine I had lots of time to move and twist in place which I did inside the 
Delrin leadscrew nut

Then clamped thread in a pair of V-blocks then removed the leadscrew nut and 
let dry after 2 days a few light strokes with a file and the joint was just 
about perfect like I said its hard to even find 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 11:14 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Wow, there is a good amount of surface area but that must be also some good 
epoxy. Thanks for sharing.

 

I do have some concerns over what join method to use and how smooth the 
transition is in this area since those delrin nuts are not as tough as I hoped. 
(Should have gotten more spares)

 

Jeff from Connecticut





On Nov 29, 2021, at 6:52 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



Here is a pic of it just before I joined it .and at the time no one thought it 
would work but I have 2 leadscrews joined my this method and both have never 
ever moved and I have to look really closely to see the join. I have a 
background in engineering of over 20 years and we used this method where heat 
could not be used because of distortion problems.

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> 
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:27 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: New member introduction

 

No I drilled one side and turned a pin on the other and glued them togeather 
with a special industrial locktight it has never moved since the joint is as 
strong as if I welded it

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:07 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Thanks for the input, Bill

 

So the join was not temporary, I assume you welded them together and smoothed 
the transition?

 

Jeff from Connecticut

 

On Nov 29, 2021, at 5:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



When I extended my mill I joined 2 leadscrews together

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:02 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Interesting. 

 

When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you installing 
a longer one or joining them in some manner?

Jeff from Connecticut 






On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot plus 
on my 1200 worked great just

needed more supports. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello again Jeff

 

Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using some 
time of object to hold the end of your stock. 

I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.

Then latter I extended my rails.

Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 

 

When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
coming down today. 

 

I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 900) 
but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move around. I am 
not familiar with the previous generation models and their compatibility with 
the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what generation to call these 
since Legacy improved something it seemed almost every year for a while and 
came out with yet another model / package to offer.

 

Jeff from Connecticut 






On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Jeff Richmond
Wow, there is a good amount of surface area but that must be also some good 
epoxy. Thanks for sharing.

I do have some concerns over what join method to use and how smooth the 
transition is in this area since those delrin nuts are not as tough as I hoped. 
(Should have gotten more spares)

Jeff from Connecticut

> On Nov 29, 2021, at 6:52 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> Here is a pic of it just before I joined it .and at the time no one thought 
> it would work but I have 2 leadscrews joined my this method and both have 
> never ever moved and I have to look really closely to see the join. I have a 
> background in engineering of over 20 years and we used this method where heat 
> could not be used because of distortion problems.
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:27 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: New member introduction
>  
> No I drilled one side and turned a pin on the other and glued them togeather 
> with a special industrial locktight it has never moved since the joint is as 
> strong as if I welded it
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:07 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New member introduction
>  
> Thanks for the input, Bill
>  
> So the join was not temporary, I assume you welded them together and smoothed 
> the transition?
>  
> Jeff from Connecticut
>  
> 
> On Nov 29, 2021, at 5:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> When I extended my mill I joined 2 leadscrews together
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:02 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New member introduction
>  
> Interesting. 
>  
> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you 
> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
> 
> Jeff from Connecticut 
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot 
> plus on my 1200 worked great just
> needed more supports. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> Hello again Jeff
>  
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
> slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using 
> some time of object to hold the end of your stock. 
> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.
> Then latter I extended my rails.
> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 
>  
> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>  
> C.A.G.
>  
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
>  wrote:
>  
>  
> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
> coming down today. 
>  
> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 
> 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move around. 
> I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their compatibility 
> with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what generation to call 
> these since Legacy improved something it seemed almost every year for a while 
> and came out with yet another model / package to offer.
>  
> Jeff from Connecticut 
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt   
> I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good filtered mask is a 
> must. 
> 
> The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by the 
> owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with a 2 X 
> 2 That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in the big 
> bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as we call 
> them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still use my 
> Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications when the 
> center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have done 15 foot 
> posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down to roping a 
> to

RE: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread bulkeley
No I drilled one side and turned a pin on the other and glued them togeather 
with a special industrial locktight it has never moved since the joint is as 
strong as if I welded it

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 10:07 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Thanks for the input, Bill

 

So the join was not temporary, I assume you welded them together and smoothed 
the transition?

 

Jeff from Connecticut





On Nov 29, 2021, at 5:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



When I extended my mill I joined 2 leadscrews together

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:02 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Interesting. 

 

When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you installing 
a longer one or joining them in some manner?

Jeff from Connecticut 






On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot plus 
on my 1200 worked great just

needed more supports. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello again Jeff

 

Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using some 
time of object to hold the end of your stock. 

I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.

Then latter I extended my rails.

Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 

 

When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
coming down today. 

 

I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 900) 
but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move around. I am 
not familiar with the previous generation models and their compatibility with 
the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what generation to call these 
since Legacy improved something it seemed almost every year for a while and 
came out with yet another model / package to offer.

 

Jeff from Connecticut 






On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) mailto:legacym...@iglide.net> > wrote:

 

Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt   I 
don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good filtered mask is a must.  

The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by the 
owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with a 2 X 2 
That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in the big 
bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as we call 
them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still use my 
Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications when the 
center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have done 15 foot 
posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down to roping a tooth 
pick.  Welcome to the group that does not accept "limitations"

Mike OK

On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:

Hello Everyone, 

 

I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy 
Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its 
capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your 
experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides. 

 

To add a little input to the recent group conversations

 

Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were well 
seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin / fingernail 
during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I prefer to focus 
on.

 

Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and accessories 
for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another (at least that 
what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I did bump into this 
one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It is a little older but it 
appears to have a variety of gears as well as the manuals and instructional 
videos ( inc

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Jeff Richmond
Thanks for the input, Bill

So the join was not temporary, I assume you welded them together and smoothed 
the transition?

Jeff from Connecticut

> On Nov 29, 2021, at 5:03 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> 
> When I extended my mill I joined 2 leadscrews together
>  
> Bill
>  
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:02 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New member introduction
>  
> Interesting. 
>  
> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you 
> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
> 
> Jeff from Connecticut 
> 
> 
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot 
> plus on my 1200 worked great just
> needed more supports. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>  
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>  
>  
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> Hello again Jeff
>  
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
> slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using 
> some time of object to hold the end of your stock. 
> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.
> Then latter I extended my rails.
> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 
>  
> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>  
> C.A.G.
>  
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
>  wrote:
>  
>  
> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
> coming down today. 
>  
> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 
> 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move around. 
> I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their compatibility 
> with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what generation to call 
> these since Legacy improved something it seemed almost every year for a while 
> and came out with yet another model / package to offer.
>  
> Jeff from Connecticut 
> 
> 
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt   
> I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good filtered mask is a 
> must. 
> 
> The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by the 
> owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with a 2 X 
> 2 That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in the big 
> bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as we call 
> them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still use my 
> Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications when the 
> center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have done 15 foot 
> posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down to roping a 
> tooth pick.  Welcome to the group that does not accept "limitations"
> 
> Mike OK
> 
> On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>  
> I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy 
> Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its 
> capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your 
> experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides. 
>  
> To add a little input to the recent group conversations
>  
> Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were 
> well seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin / 
> fingernail during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I 
> prefer to focus on.
>  
> Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and accessories 
> for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another (at least 
> that what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I did bump into 
> this one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It is a little older but 
> it appears to have a variety of gears as well as the manuals and 
> instructional videos ( including a VHS player )  Legacy ( Woodchuck ) 
> Ornamental Mill - tools - by owner - sale (craigslist.org)
>  
> Jeff from Connecticut
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.
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Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Jeff Richmond
Hi Tim,

Pictures would be great, if you have them.

Jeff from Connecticut

> On Nov 29, 2021, at 4:11 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey Jeff, 
> I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM connectors 
> to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller 
> stand modified 
> with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put holes 
> in walls 
> like other's did lol. 
> 
> I can try to find pix if you'd like???
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:
>> Interesting. 
>> 
>> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you 
>> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut 
>> 
 On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot 
>>> plus on my 1200 worked great just
>>> needed more supports. 
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> 
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> 
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
  wrote:
 Hello again Jeff
 
 Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take 
 some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and 
 using some time of object to hold the end of your stock. 
 I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.
 Then latter I extended my rails.
 Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 
 
 When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
 
 C.A.G.
 
 On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
  wrote:
 
 
 Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some 
 snow coming down today. 
 
 I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 
 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move 
 around. I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their 
 compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what 
 generation to call these since Legacy improved something it seemed almost 
 every year for a while and came out with yet another model / package to 
 offer.
 
 Jeff from Connecticut 
 
>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
>>  wrote:
>> 
> 
 
 Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt 
   I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good 
 filtered mask is a must.  
 
 The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by 
 the owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it 
 with a 2 X 2 That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn 
 up in the big bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the 
 Steely as we call them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add 
 strength.  I still use my Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way 
 of modifications when the center points are raised and not trapped between 
 rails.  I have done 15 foot posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" 
 All the way down to roping a tooth pick.  Welcome to the group that does 
 not accept "limitations"
 
 Mike OK
 
 On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a 
> Legacy Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool 
> and its capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering 
> your experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides. 
> 
> To add a little input to the recent group conversations
> 
> Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were 
> well seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin / 
> fingernail during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium 
> I prefer to focus on.
> 
> Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and 
> accessories for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need 
> another (at least that what I have to keep telling myself) but in my 
> searching, I did bump into this one if anyone wants to expand their 
> capability. It is a little older but it appears to have a variety of 
> gears as well as the manuals and instructional videos ( including a VHS 
> player )  Legacy ( Woodchuck ) Ornamental Mill - tools - by owner - sale 
> (craigslist.org)
> 
> Jeff from Connecticut
> 

RE: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread bulkeley
When I extended my mill I joined 2 leadscrews together

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Tuesday, 30 November 2021 8:02 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Interesting. 

 

When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you installing 
a longer one or joining them in some manner?

Jeff from Connecticut 





On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot plus 
on my 1200 worked great just

needed more supports. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello again Jeff

 

Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using some 
time of object to hold the end of your stock. 

I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.

Then latter I extended my rails.

Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 

 

When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
coming down today. 

 

I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 900) 
but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move around. I am 
not familiar with the previous generation models and their compatibility with 
the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what generation to call these 
since Legacy improved something it seemed almost every year for a while and 
came out with yet another model / package to offer.

 

Jeff from Connecticut 





On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) mailto:legacym...@iglide.net> > wrote:

 

Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt   I 
don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good filtered mask is a must.  

The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by the 
owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with a 2 X 2 
That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in the big 
bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as we call 
them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still use my 
Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications when the 
center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have done 15 foot 
posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down to roping a tooth 
pick.  Welcome to the group that does not accept "limitations"

Mike OK

On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:

Hello Everyone, 

 

I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy 
Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its 
capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your 
experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides. 

 

To add a little input to the recent group conversations

 

Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were well 
seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin / fingernail 
during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I prefer to focus 
on.

 

Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and accessories 
for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another (at least that 
what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I did bump into this 
one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It is a little older but it 
appears to have a variety of gears as well as the manuals and instructional 
videos ( including a VHS player )  Legacy ( Woodchuck ) Ornamental Mill - tools 
- by owner - sale (craigslist.org) 
<https://hartford.craigslist.org/tls/d/belchertown-legacy-woodchuck-ornamental/7411703460.html>
 

 

Jeff from Connecticut

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Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Tim Ziegler
To jump the hurdle of to short of acme I just flipped the part over and
only using the extension for the tail stock.
Pretty sure that's the only practical way to do it.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

> Interesting.
>
> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you
> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot
> plus on my 1200 worked great just
> needed more supports.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello again Jeff
>>
>> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take
>> some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and
>> using some time of object to hold the end of your stock.
>> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live
>> center.
>> Then latter I extended my rails.
>> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck.
>>
>> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
>> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some
>> snow coming down today.
>>
>> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock
>> 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move
>> around. I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their
>> compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what
>> generation to call these since Legacy improved something it seemed almost
>> every year for a while and came out with yet another model / package to
>> offer.
>>
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>
>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
>> legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt
>>   I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good
>> filtered mask is a must.
>>
>> The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by
>> the owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with
>> a 2 X 2 That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in
>> the big bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as
>> we call them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still
>> use my Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications
>> when the center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have
>> done 15 foot posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down
>> to roping a tooth pick.  Welcome to the group that does not accept
>> "limitations"
>>
>> Mike OK
>> On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a
>> Legacy Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and
>> its capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your
>> experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides.
>>
>> To add a little input to the recent group conversations
>>
>> Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were
>> well seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin /
>> fingernail during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I
>> prefer to focus on.
>>
>> Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and
>> accessories for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another
>> (at least that what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I
>> did bump into this one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It is a
>> little older but it appears to have a variety of gears as well as the
>> manuals and instructional videos ( including a VHS player )  Legacy (
>> Woodchuck ) Ornamental Mill - tools - by owner - sale (craigslist.org)
>> 
>>
>> Jeff from Connecticut
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Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Tim Ziegler
Hey Jeff,
I actually made two angle iron brackets and used several  oval LOM
connectors
to attach the extra LOM rail and then supported the far end with a roller
stand modified
with a flat cross piece. It worked excellent and I did not have to put
holes in walls
like other's did lol.

I can try to find pix if you'd like???

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 3:02 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

> Interesting.
>
> When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you
> installing a longer one or joining them in some manner?
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot
> plus on my 1200 worked great just
> needed more supports.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello again Jeff
>>
>> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take
>> some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and
>> using some time of object to hold the end of your stock.
>> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live
>> center.
>> Then latter I extended my rails.
>> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck.
>>
>> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
>> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some
>> snow coming down today.
>>
>> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock
>> 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move
>> around. I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their
>> compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what
>> generation to call these since Legacy improved something it seemed almost
>> every year for a while and came out with yet another model / package to
>> offer.
>>
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>
>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
>> legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt
>>   I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good
>> filtered mask is a must.
>>
>> The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by
>> the owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with
>> a 2 X 2 That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in
>> the big bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as
>> we call them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still
>> use my Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications
>> when the center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have
>> done 15 foot posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down
>> to roping a tooth pick.  Welcome to the group that does not accept
>> "limitations"
>>
>> Mike OK
>> On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a
>> Legacy Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and
>> its capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your
>> experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides.
>>
>> To add a little input to the recent group conversations
>>
>> Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were
>> well seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin /
>> fingernail during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I
>> prefer to focus on.
>>
>> Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and
>> accessories for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another
>> (at least that what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I
>> did bump into this one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It is a
>> little older but it appears to have a variety of gears as well as the
>> manuals and instructional videos ( including a VHS player )  Legacy (
>> Woodchuck ) Ornamental Mill - tools - by owner - sale (craigslist.org)
>> 
>>
>> Jeff from Connecticut
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Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Jeff Richmond
Interesting. 

When extending using rails, how is the acme screw addressed? Are you installing 
a longer one or joining them in some manner?

Jeff from Connecticut 

> On Nov 28, 2021, at 10:56 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot 
> plus on my 1200 worked great just
> needed more supports. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  wrote:
>> Hello again Jeff
>> 
>> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
>> slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using 
>> some time of object to hold the end of your stock. 
>> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.
>> Then latter I extended my rails.
>> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 
>> 
>> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>> 
>> C.A.G.
>> 
>> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
>> coming down today. 
>> 
>> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 
>> 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move 
>> around. I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their 
>> compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what 
>> generation to call these since Legacy improved something it seemed almost 
>> every year for a while and came out with yet another model / package to 
>> offer.
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut 
>> 
 On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
  wrote:
 
>>> 
>> 
>> Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt   
>> I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good filtered mask is a 
>> must.  
>> 
>> The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by 
>> the owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with 
>> a 2 X 2 That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in 
>> the big bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as 
>> we call them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still 
>> use my Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications 
>> when the center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have 
>> done 15 foot posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down 
>> to roping a tooth pick.  Welcome to the group that does not accept 
>> "limitations"
>> 
>> Mike OK
>> 
>> On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy 
>>> Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its 
>>> capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your 
>>> experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides. 
>>> 
>>> To add a little input to the recent group conversations
>>> 
>>> Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were 
>>> well seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin / 
>>> fingernail during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I 
>>> prefer to focus on.
>>> 
>>> Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and 
>>> accessories for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another 
>>> (at least that what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I 
>>> did bump into this one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It is a 
>>> little older but it appears to have a variety of gears as well as the 
>>> manuals and instructional videos ( including a VHS player )  Legacy ( 
>>> Woodchuck ) Ornamental Mill - tools - by owner - sale (craigslist.org)
>>> 
>>> Jeff from Connecticut
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Re: New member introduction

2021-11-29 Thread Jeff Richmond
Thanks Curt, I will have to research these options. I don’t have any metal 
milling capability but definitely something to think about.

Jeff from Connecticut

> On Nov 28, 2021, at 9:16 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey Jeff
> 
> I think you will find a few Shop Smith users here in our group.
> 
> Legacy for some reason stopped making Legacy's with removeable tailstock 
> adaptors.
> The tailstock can be modified to hole a MT2 adaptor, but it will take some 
> machining on a steel lathe to make it work. Here is a photo of mine.
> What you see in the photos is a MT2 adaptor with a hole at the end, the 
> DeStayCo clamp male adaptor is just held in place with a set screw. the 
> plastic bushing and clamp are the only things that hold it in place.
> 
> Another approach is one of our members (Joe) bought a amazon tail stock. 
> (something like this one ,  
> https://www.amazon.com/Tailstock-Woodworking-Engraving-Milling-Machine/dp/B07RRG2YFK/ref=sr_1_38?crid=3DX2G6NS62BPF=lathe+tailstock=1638151454=lathe+tail%2Caps%2C193=8-38
>   and re-worked his Legacy using it.)
> A third (no name.) just made a live center and mounted it over the Legacy's 
> dead center.
> 
> Or do as I did on my Pedal lathe. I ground down the dead center, and tapped 
> it 1/2 24(? fine threads) and mounted a Shop Smith live center on the 
> threaded shaft.
> 
> When there is a will, There is Always a way!
> 
> Have a good night.
> 
> C.A.G.
> 
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:46:57 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks again Curt, yes that makes sense and is pretty creative use of a hole 
> in the garage wall. Lol
> 
> Even with my limited use, a live center is definitely an upgrade I see a need 
> for on the Legacy. I will have to check compatibility with the shopsmith I 
> have. I use that as a lathe from time to time but mainly just pens.
> 
> I definitely wish I had joined this group moons ago. 
> 
> Jeff from Connecticut
> 
>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 8:20 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Woops. I missed something.
>> 
>> 4' cutting at a time. and then flipping the stock over to cut the other 4'. 
>> Is what I thought I wrote.   (hope this helps?)
>> 
>> C.A.G.
>> 
>> 
>> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:19:14 PM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
>> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hello again Jeff
>> 
>> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
>> slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using 
>> some time of object to hold the end of your stock. 
>> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.
>> Then latter I extended my rails.
>> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 
>> 
>> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>> 
>> C.A.G.
>> 
>> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
>> coming down today. 
>> 
>> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 
>> 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move 
>> around. I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their 
>> compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what 
>> generation to call these since Legacy improved something it seemed almost 
>> every year for a while and came out with yet another model / package to 
>> offer.
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut 
>> 
>>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt   
>> I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good filtered mask is a 
>> must.  
>> 
>> The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by 
>> the owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with 
>> a 2 X 2 That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in 
>> the big bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as 
>> we call them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still 
>> use my Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications 
>> when the center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have 
>> done 15 foot posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down 
>> to roping a tooth pick.  Welcome to the group that does not accept 
>> "limitations"
>> 
>> Mike OK
>> 
>> On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy 
>>> Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its 
>>> capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your 
>>> experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides. 
>>> 
>>> To add a little input to the recent group conversations
>>> 
>>> 

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread Tim Ziegler
Yeah I get it. I have some stashed for some playing but more for the chucks
etc...
I want for bone turning. I just watched a short video on the apprentice
from Crafts Supplies USA
Getting itchy there.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 10:47 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> You guys, Make me want to go back and build another Legacy toy.
> I'm thinking something small this time. Something like the Legacy model
> 200, but with 1000ex / normal sized gears, and linear rail.  I've always
> liked the 200's floating Z axis. and I think the Y movement 1" on either
> side of 0, should do nicely.
> And Tim I will be using a 5/8" shaft and ball bearings on the headstock.
> and I have not yet figured out what I want to do with the tailstock, Yet...
>
> I will start after Christmas.  (I need to save my money!) ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 11:35:21 PM EST, 
> wrote:
>
>
> I totally agree keep going Tim
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, 29 November 2021 3:16 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> I cant wait to see it when its done! looks Great!!!
>
> I still think you should make your own head and tailstock For you Hybrid,
> Tim.
>
> Use a 5/8 shaft, then all your Shop Smith adaptors will fit it. The 5/8"
> shaft is smaller so ball bearings and everything will work with in the
> framework you have.
>
> I was just thinking, the tail stock, would not be that much harder to
> make,  You could do as Joe did.  (That's one slick tailstock!)
>
> No matter what I suggest. Just keep on going Tim. what you've done so far
> is Awesome! Keep up the good work.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 11:03:00 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot
> plus on my 1200 worked great just
>
> needed more supports.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello again Jeff
>
>
>
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take
> some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and
> using some time of object to hold the end of your stock.
>
> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.
>
> Then latter I extended my rails.
>
> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck.
>
>
>
> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some
> snow coming down today.
>
>
>
> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock
> 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move
> around. I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their
> compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what
> generation to call these since Legacy improved something it seemed almost
> every year for a while and came out with yet another model / package to
> offer.
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt
>   I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good
> filtered mask is a must.
>
> The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by
> the owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with
> a 2 X 2 That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in
> the big bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as
> we call them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still
> use my Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications
> when the center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I 

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread Tim Ziegler
You are absolutely right and yes baby steps and lots of planing ahead
right? lol

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 10:45 PM  wrote:

> Baby steps Tim baby steps I think making mods is almost as much fun as
> using the mill itself lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 29 November 2021 3:27 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> thanks Curt yes I take all advice into consideration and keep moving
> forward.
>
> I'm getting super stoked to get more done then I have time for but. Its
> coming.
>
> Thanks again for the encouragement.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 10:15 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> I cant wait to see it when its done! looks Great!!!
>
> I still think you should make your own head and tailstock For you Hybrid,
> Tim.
>
> Use a 5/8 shaft, then all your Shop Smith adaptors will fit it. The 5/8"
> shaft is smaller so ball bearings and everything will work with in the
> framework you have.
>
> I was just thinking, the tail stock, would not be that much harder to
> make,  You could do as Joe did.  (That's one slick tailstock!)
>
> No matter what I suggest. Just keep on going Tim. what you've done so far
> is Awesome! Keep up the good work.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 11:03:00 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot
> plus on my 1200 worked great just
>
> needed more supports.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello again Jeff
>
>
>
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take
> some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and
> using some time of object to hold the end of your stock.
>
> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.
>
> Then latter I extended my rails.
>
> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck.
>
>
>
> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some
> snow coming down today.
>
>
>
> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock
> 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move
> around. I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their
> compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what
> generation to call these since Legacy improved something it seemed almost
> every year for a while and came out with yet another model / package to
> offer.
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt
>   I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good
> filtered mask is a must.
>
> The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by
> the owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with
> a 2 X 2 That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in
> the big bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as
> we call them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still
> use my Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications
> when the center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have
> done 15 foot posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down
> to roping a tooth pick.  Welcome to the group that does not accept
> "limitations"
>
> Mike OK
>
> On 11/28/2021 7:

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread Tim Ziegler
yup thanks

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 10:35 PM  wrote:

> I totally agree keep going Tim
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, 29 November 2021 3:16 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> I cant wait to see it when its done! looks Great!!!
>
> I still think you should make your own head and tailstock For you Hybrid,
> Tim.
>
> Use a 5/8 shaft, then all your Shop Smith adaptors will fit it. The 5/8"
> shaft is smaller so ball bearings and everything will work with in the
> framework you have.
>
> I was just thinking, the tail stock, would not be that much harder to
> make,  You could do as Joe did.  (That's one slick tailstock!)
>
> No matter what I suggest. Just keep on going Tim. what you've done so far
> is Awesome! Keep up the good work.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 11:03:00 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot
> plus on my 1200 worked great just
>
> needed more supports.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello again Jeff
>
>
>
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take
> some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and
> using some time of object to hold the end of your stock.
>
> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.
>
> Then latter I extended my rails.
>
> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck.
>
>
>
> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some
> snow coming down today.
>
>
>
> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock
> 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move
> around. I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their
> compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what
> generation to call these since Legacy improved something it seemed almost
> every year for a while and came out with yet another model / package to
> offer.
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt
>   I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good
> filtered mask is a must.
>
> The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by
> the owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with
> a 2 X 2 That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in
> the big bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as
> we call them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still
> use my Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications
> when the center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have
> done 15 foot posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down
> to roping a tooth pick.  Welcome to the group that does not accept
> "limitations"
>
> Mike OK
>
> On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
>
>
> I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy
> Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its
> capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your
> experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides.
>
>
>
> To add a little input to the recent group conversations
>
>
>
> Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were
> well seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin /
> fingernail during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I
> prefer to focus on.

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 You guys, Make me want to go back and build another Legacy toy.  I'm thinking 
something small this time. Something like the Legacy model 200, but with 1000ex 
/ normal sized gears, and linear rail.  I've always liked the 200's floating Z 
axis. and I think the Y movement 1" on either side of 0, should do nicely.And 
Tim I will be using a 5/8" shaft and ball bearings on the headstock. and I have 
not yet figured out what I want to do with the tailstock, Yet...
I will start after Christmas.  (I need to save my money!) ;-)
C.A.G.
On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 11:35:21 PM EST,  
wrote:  
 
 
I totally agree keep going Tim

  

Bill 

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 29 November 2021 3:16 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New member introduction

  

I cant wait to see it when its done! looks Great!!!  

I still think you should make your own head and tailstock For you Hybrid, Tim.

Use a 5/8 shaft, then all your Shop Smith adaptors will fit it. The 5/8" shaft 
is smaller so ball bearings and everything will work with in the framework you 
have.

I was just thinking, the tail stock, would not be that much harder to make,  
You could do as Joe did.  (That's one slick tailstock!)

No matter what I suggest. Just keep on going Tim. what you've done so far is 
Awesome! Keep up the good work.

  

C.A.G.

  

On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 11:03:00 PM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote: 

  

  

Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot plus 
on my 1200 worked great just

needed more supports. 




Kind Regards,

  

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

  

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

  

  

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:


Hello again Jeff

  

Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using some 
time of object to hold the end of your stock. 

I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.

Then latter I extended my rails.

Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 

  

When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)

  

C.A.G.

  

On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
 wrote: 

  

  

Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
coming down today. 

  

I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 900) 
but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move around. I am 
not familiar with the previous generation models and their compatibility with 
the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what generation to call these 
since Legacy improved something it seemed almost every year for a while and 
came out with yet another model / package to offer.

  

Jeff from Connecticut 






On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  
wrote:



 


Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt   I 
don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good filtered mask is a must.  

The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by the 
owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with a 2 X 2 
That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in the big 
bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as we call 
them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still use my 
Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications when the 
center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have done 15 foot 
posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down to roping a tooth 
pick.  Welcome to the group that does not accept "limitations"

Mike OK

On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:


Hello Everyone, 

  

I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy 
Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its 
capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your 
experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides. 

  

To add a little input to the recent group conversations

  

Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were well 
seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin / fingernail 
during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I prefer to focus 
on.

  

Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and accessories 
for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another (at least that 
what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I did bump into this 
one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It is a little older but it 
appears to have a variety of gears as well as the manuals and instructiona

RE: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread bulkeley
Baby steps Tim baby steps I think making mods is almost as much fun as using 
the mill itself lol

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 29 November 2021 3:27 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

thanks Curt yes I take all advice into consideration and keep moving forward. 

I'm getting super stoked to get more done then I have time for but. Its coming. 

Thanks again for the encouragement. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 10:15 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

I cant wait to see it when its done! looks Great!!!  

I still think you should make your own head and tailstock For you Hybrid, Tim.

Use a 5/8 shaft, then all your Shop Smith adaptors will fit it. The 5/8" shaft 
is smaller so ball bearings and everything will work with in the framework you 
have.

I was just thinking, the tail stock, would not be that much harder to make,  
You could do as Joe did.  (That's one slick tailstock!)

No matter what I suggest. Just keep on going Tim. what you've done so far is 
Awesome! Keep up the good work.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 11:03:00 PM EST, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot plus 
on my 1200 worked great just

needed more supports. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello again Jeff

 

Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using some 
time of object to hold the end of your stock. 

I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.

Then latter I extended my rails.

Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 

 

When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
coming down today. 

 

I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 900) 
but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move around. I am 
not familiar with the previous generation models and their compatibility with 
the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what generation to call these 
since Legacy improved something it seemed almost every year for a while and 
came out with yet another model / package to offer.

 

Jeff from Connecticut 





On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) mailto:legacym...@iglide.net> > wrote:

 

Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt   I 
don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good filtered mask is a must.  

The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by the 
owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with a 2 X 2 
That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in the big 
bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as we call 
them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still use my 
Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications when the 
center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have done 15 foot 
posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down to roping a tooth 
pick.  Welcome to the group that does not accept "limitations"

Mike OK

On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:

Hello Everyone, 

 

I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy 
Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its 
capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your 
experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides. 

 

To add a little input to the recent group conversations

 

Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were well 
seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin / fingernail 
during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I prefer to focus 
on.

 

Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and accessories 
for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another (at least that 
what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I did bump into this 
one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It is a littl

RE: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread bulkeley
I totally agree keep going Tim

 

Bill 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 29 November 2021 3:16 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

I cant wait to see it when its done! looks Great!!!  

I still think you should make your own head and tailstock For you Hybrid, Tim.

Use a 5/8 shaft, then all your Shop Smith adaptors will fit it. The 5/8" shaft 
is smaller so ball bearings and everything will work with in the framework you 
have.

I was just thinking, the tail stock, would not be that much harder to make,  
You could do as Joe did.  (That's one slick tailstock!)

No matter what I suggest. Just keep on going Tim. what you've done so far is 
Awesome! Keep up the good work.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 11:03:00 PM EST, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot plus 
on my 1200 worked great just

needed more supports. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hello again Jeff

 

Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using some 
time of object to hold the end of your stock. 

I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.

Then latter I extended my rails.

Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 

 

When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
coming down today. 

 

I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 900) 
but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move around. I am 
not familiar with the previous generation models and their compatibility with 
the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what generation to call these 
since Legacy improved something it seemed almost every year for a while and 
came out with yet another model / package to offer.

 

Jeff from Connecticut 





On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) mailto:legacym...@iglide.net> > wrote:

 

Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt   I 
don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good filtered mask is a must.  

The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by the 
owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with a 2 X 2 
That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in the big 
bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as we call 
them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still use my 
Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications when the 
center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have done 15 foot 
posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down to roping a tooth 
pick.  Welcome to the group that does not accept "limitations"

Mike OK

On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:

Hello Everyone, 

 

I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy 
Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its 
capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your 
experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides. 

 

To add a little input to the recent group conversations

 

Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were well 
seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin / fingernail 
during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I prefer to focus 
on.

 

Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and accessories 
for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another (at least that 
what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I did bump into this 
one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It is a little older but it 
appears to have a variety of gears as well as the manuals and instructional 
videos ( including a VHS player )  Legacy ( Woodchuck ) Ornamental Mill - tools 
- by owner - sale (craigslist.org) 
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Re: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread Tim Ziegler
Yeah exactly what I want. I wish that wood chuck was not so far away I'd
even settle for that.
Curts giving me a couple idea's too using the Shopsmith size will see where
it goes. Just know
its going to happen sooner then later lol.
I had to finally rob my drive off my 1500. I could not stand it no longer I
had to get a motor on it.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 10:26 PM  wrote:

> Not before they sell a ball bearing one to me Tim lolol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 29 November 2021 3:02 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Re: New member introduction
>
>
>
> Hey that looks pretty slick and is giving me idea's, but of course if
> someone would sell me a
>
> head stock and tail stock my search would be over and I could finish my
> HYBRID right Curt.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 8:26 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Just found Joe's tailstock. (Pretty Slick! )
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 09:22:42 PM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Hey Jeff
>
>
>
> I think you will find a few Shop Smith users here in our group.
>
>
>
> Legacy for some reason stopped making Legacy's with removeable tailstock
> adaptors.
>
> The tailstock can be modified to hole a MT2 adaptor, but it will take some
> machining on a steel lathe to make it work. Here is a photo of mine.
>
> What you see in the photos is a MT2 adaptor with a hole at the end, the
> DeStayCo clamp male adaptor is just held in place with a set screw. the
> plastic bushing and clamp are the only things that hold it in place.
>
>
>
> Another approach is one of our members (Joe) bought a amazon tail stock.
> (something like this one ,
> https://www.amazon.com/Tailstock-Woodworking-Engraving-Milling-Machine/dp/B07RRG2YFK/ref=sr_1_38?crid=3DX2G6NS62BPF=lathe+tailstock=1638151454=lathe+tail%2Caps%2C193=8-38
> and re-worked his Legacy using it.)
>
> A third (no name.) just made a live center and mounted it over the
> Legacy's dead center.
>
>
>
> Or do as I did on my Pedal lathe. I ground down the dead center, and
> tapped it 1/2 24(? fine threads) and mounted a Shop Smith live center on
> the threaded shaft.
>
>
>
> When there is a will, There is Always a way!
>
>
>
> Have a good night.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:46:57 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks again Curt, yes that makes sense and is pretty creative use of a
> hole in the garage wall. Lol
>
>
>
> Even with my limited use, a live center is definitely an upgrade I see a
> need for on the Legacy. I will have to check compatibility with the
> shopsmith I have. I use that as a lathe from time to time but mainly just
> pens.
>
>
>
> I definitely wish I had joined this group moons ago.
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
>
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 8:20 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Woops. I missed something.
>
>
>
> 4' cutting at a time. and then flipping the stock over to cut the other
> 4'. Is what I thought I wrote.   (hope this helps?)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:19:14 PM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello again Jeff
>
>
>
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take
> some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and
> using some time of object to hold the end of your stock.
>
> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.
>
> Then latter I extended my rails.
>
> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck.
>
>
>
> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome.

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread Tim Ziegler
thanks Curt yes I take all advice into consideration and keep moving
forward.
I'm getting super stoked to get more done then I have time for but. Its
coming.
Thanks again for the encouragement.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 10:15 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I cant wait to see it when its done! looks Great!!!
> I still think you should make your own head and tailstock For you Hybrid,
> Tim.
> Use a 5/8 shaft, then all your Shop Smith adaptors will fit it. The 5/8"
> shaft is smaller so ball bearings and everything will work with in the
> framework you have.
> I was just thinking, the tail stock, would not be that much harder to
> make,  You could do as Joe did.  (That's one slick tailstock!)
> No matter what I suggest. Just keep on going Tim. what you've done so far
> is Awesome! Keep up the good work.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 11:03:00 PM EST, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot
> plus on my 1200 worked great just
> needed more supports.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello again Jeff
>
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take
> some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and
> using some time of object to hold the end of your stock.
> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.
> Then latter I extended my rails.
> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck.
>
> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some
> snow coming down today.
>
> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock
> 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move
> around. I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their
> compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what
> generation to call these since Legacy improved something it seemed almost
> every year for a while and came out with yet another model / package to
> offer.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt
>   I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good
> filtered mask is a must.
>
> The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by
> the owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with
> a 2 X 2 That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in
> the big bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as
> we call them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still
> use my Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications
> when the center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have
> done 15 foot posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down
> to roping a tooth pick.  Welcome to the group that does not accept
> "limitations"
>
> Mike OK
> On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy
> Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its
> capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your
> experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides.
>
> To add a little input to the recent group conversations
>
> Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were
> well seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin /
> fingernail during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I
> prefer to focus on.
>
> Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and
> accessories for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another
> (at least that what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I
> did bump into this one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It is a
> little older but it appears to have a variety of gears as well as the
> manuals and instructional videos ( including a VHS player )  Legacy (
> Woodchuck ) Ornamental Mill - tools - by owner - sale (craigslist.org)
> 
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
> --
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RE: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread bulkeley
Not before they sell a ball bearing one to me Tim lolol

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 29 November 2021 3:02 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Hey that looks pretty slick and is giving me idea's, but of course if someone 
would sell me a

head stock and tail stock my search would be over and I could finish my HYBRID 
right Curt. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 8:26 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Just found Joe's tailstock. (Pretty Slick! )

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 09:22:42 PM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hey Jeff

 

I think you will find a few Shop Smith users here in our group.

 

Legacy for some reason stopped making Legacy's with removeable tailstock 
adaptors.

The tailstock can be modified to hole a MT2 adaptor, but it will take some 
machining on a steel lathe to make it work. Here is a photo of mine.

What you see in the photos is a MT2 adaptor with a hole at the end, the 
DeStayCo clamp male adaptor is just held in place with a set screw. the plastic 
bushing and clamp are the only things that hold it in place.

 

Another approach is one of our members (Joe) bought a amazon tail stock. 
(something like this one ,  
https://www.amazon.com/Tailstock-Woodworking-Engraving-Milling-Machine/dp/B07RRG2YFK/ref=sr_1_38?crid=3DX2G6NS62BPF
 
<https://www.amazon.com/Tailstock-Woodworking-Engraving-Milling-Machine/dp/B07RRG2YFK/ref=sr_1_38?crid=3DX2G6NS62BPF=lathe+tailstock=1638151454=lathe+tail%2Caps%2C193=8-38>
 
=lathe+tailstock=1638151454=lathe+tail%2Caps%2C193=8-38 
 and re-worked his Legacy using it.)

A third (no name.) just made a live center and mounted it over the Legacy's 
dead center.

 

Or do as I did on my Pedal lathe. I ground down the dead center, and tapped it 
1/2 24(? fine threads) and mounted a Shop Smith live center on the threaded 
shaft.

 

When there is a will, There is Always a way!

 

Have a good night.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:46:57 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Thanks again Curt, yes that makes sense and is pretty creative use of a hole in 
the garage wall. Lol

 

Even with my limited use, a live center is definitely an upgrade I see a need 
for on the Legacy. I will have to check compatibility with the shopsmith I 
have. I use that as a lathe from time to time but mainly just pens.

 

I definitely wish I had joined this group moons ago. 

 

Jeff from Connecticut





On Nov 28, 2021, at 8:20 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:



Woops. I missed something.

 

4' cutting at a time. and then flipping the stock over to cut the other 4'. Is 
what I thought I wrote.   (hope this helps?)

 

C.A.G.

 

 

On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:19:14 PM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hello again Jeff

 

Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using some 
time of object to hold the end of your stock. 

I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.

Then latter I extended my rails.

Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 

 

When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
coming down today. 

 

I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 900) 
but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move around. I am 
not familiar with the previous generation models and their compatibility with 
the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what generation to call these 
since Legacy improved something it seemed almost every year for a while and 
came out with yet another model / package to offer.

 

Jeff from Connecticut 





On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) mailto:legacym...@iglide.net> > wrote:

 

Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt   I 
don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good filtered mask is a must.  

The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by the 
owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with a 2 X 2 
That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in the big 
bladed cuts.

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 I cant wait to see it when its done! looks Great!!!  I still think you should 
make your own head and tailstock For you Hybrid, Tim.Use a 5/8 shaft, then all 
your Shop Smith adaptors will fit it. The 5/8" shaft is smaller so ball 
bearings and everything will work with in the framework you have.I was just 
thinking, the tail stock, would not be that much harder to make,  You could do 
as Joe did.  (That's one slick tailstock!)No matter what I suggest. Just keep 
on going Tim. what you've done so far is Awesome! Keep up the good work.
C.A.G.
On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 11:03:00 PM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot 
plus on my 1200 worked great justneeded more supports. 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

 Hello again Jeff
Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using some 
time of object to hold the end of your stock. I small hole in the wall in my 
garage did it first, to hold my live center.Then latter I extended my 
rails.Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 
When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
C.A.G.
On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
 wrote:  
 
 Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
coming down today. 
I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 900) 
but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move around. I am 
not familiar with the previous generation models and their compatibility with 
the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what generation to call these 
since Legacy improved something it seemed almost every year for a while and 
came out with yet another model / package to offer.
Jeff from Connecticut 


On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  
wrote:





Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt   I 
don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good filtered mask is a must.  
 
 
The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by the 
owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with a 2 X 2 
That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in the big 
bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as we call 
them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still use my 
Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications when the 
center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have done 15 foot 
posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down to roping a tooth 
pick.  Welcome to the group that does not accept "limitations"
 
Mike OK
 
 On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:
  
 Hello Everyone, 
  I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy 
Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its 
capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your 
experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides.  
  To add a little input to the recent group conversations 
  Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were 
well seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin / fingernail 
during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I prefer to focus 
on. 
  Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and accessories 
for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another (at least that 
what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I did bump into this 
one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It is a little older but it 
appears to have a variety of gears as well as the manuals and instructional 
videos ( including a VHS player )  Legacy ( Woodchuck ) Ornamental Mill - tools 
- by owner - sale (craigslist.org) 
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Re: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread Tim Ziegler
Hey that looks pretty slick and is giving me idea's, but of course if
someone would sell me a
head stock and tail stock my search would be over and I could finish my
HYBRID right Curt.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 8:26 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Just found Joe's tailstock. (Pretty Slick! )
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 09:22:42 PM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
> Hey Jeff
>
> I think you will find a few Shop Smith users here in our group.
>
> Legacy for some reason stopped making Legacy's with removeable tailstock
> adaptors.
> The tailstock can be modified to hole a MT2 adaptor, but it will take some
> machining on a steel lathe to make it work. Here is a photo of mine.
> What you see in the photos is a MT2 adaptor with a hole at the end, the
> DeStayCo clamp male adaptor is just held in place with a set screw. the
> plastic bushing and clamp are the only things that hold it in place.
>
> Another approach is one of our members (Joe) bought a amazon tail stock.
> (something like this one ,
> https://www.amazon.com/Tailstock-Woodworking-Engraving-Milling-Machine/dp/B07RRG2YFK/ref=sr_1_38?crid=3DX2G6NS62BPF=lathe+tailstock=1638151454=lathe+tail%2Caps%2C193=8-38
> and re-worked his Legacy using it.)
> A third (no name.) just made a live center and mounted it over the
> Legacy's dead center.
>
> Or do as I did on my Pedal lathe. I ground down the dead center, and
> tapped it 1/2 24(? fine threads) and mounted a Shop Smith live center on
> the threaded shaft.
>
> When there is a will, There is Always a way!
>
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:46:57 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks again Curt, yes that makes sense and is pretty creative use of a
> hole in the garage wall. Lol
>
> Even with my limited use, a live center is definitely an upgrade I see a
> need for on the Legacy. I will have to check compatibility with the
> shopsmith I have. I use that as a lathe from time to time but mainly just
> pens.
>
> I definitely wish I had joined this group moons ago.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 8:20 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Woops. I missed something.
>
> 4' cutting at a time. and then flipping the stock over to cut the other
> 4'. Is what I thought I wrote.   (hope this helps?)
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:19:14 PM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
> Hello again Jeff
>
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take
> some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and
> using some time of object to hold the end of your stock.
> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.
> Then latter I extended my rails.
> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck.
>
> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some
> snow coming down today.
>
> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock
> 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move
> around. I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their
> compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what
> generation to call these since Legacy improved something it seemed almost
> every year for a while and came out with yet another model / package to
> offer.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt
>   I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good
> filtered mask is a must.
>
> The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by
> the owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with
> a 2 X 2 That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in
> the big bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as
> we call them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still
> use my Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications
> when the center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have
> done 15 foot posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down
> to roping a tooth pick.  Welcome to the group that does not accept
> "limitations"
>
> Mike OK
> On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy
> 

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread Tim Ziegler
Jeff don't feel alone I've only owned LOM's now 3 maybe 4 years. but found
the group right out of the shutte.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:46 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

> Thanks again Curt, yes that makes sense and is pretty creative use of a
> hole in the garage wall. Lol
>
> Even with my limited use, a live center is definitely an upgrade I see a
> need for on the Legacy. I will have to check compatibility with the
> shopsmith I have. I use that as a lathe from time to time but mainly just
> pens.
>
> I definitely wish I had joined this group moons ago.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 8:20 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Woops. I missed something.
>
> 4' cutting at a time. and then flipping the stock over to cut the other
> 4'. Is what I thought I wrote.   (hope this helps?)
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:19:14 PM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
>
>
> Hello again Jeff
>
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take
> some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and
> using some time of object to hold the end of your stock.
> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.
> Then latter I extended my rails.
> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck.
>
> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some
> snow coming down today.
>
> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock
> 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move
> around. I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their
> compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what
> generation to call these since Legacy improved something it seemed almost
> every year for a while and came out with yet another model / package to
> offer.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt
>   I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good
> filtered mask is a must.
>
> The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by
> the owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with
> a 2 X 2 That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in
> the big bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as
> we call them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still
> use my Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications
> when the center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have
> done 15 foot posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down
> to roping a tooth pick.  Welcome to the group that does not accept
> "limitations"
>
> Mike OK
> On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy
> Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its
> capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your
> experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides.
>
> To add a little input to the recent group conversations
>
> Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were
> well seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin /
> fingernail during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I
> prefer to focus on.
>
> Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and
> accessories for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another
> (at least that what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I
> did bump into this one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It is a
> little older but it appears to have a variety of gears as well as the
> manuals and instructional videos ( including a VHS player )  Legacy (
> Woodchuck ) Ornamental Mill - tools - by owner - sale (craigslist.org)
> 
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
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Re: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Nice! ;-)
C.A.G.
On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 10:52:14 PM EST, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 Not a lot of progress but at least I had it fired up lol
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 5:43 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  
wrote:

  
Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt   I 
don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good filtered mask is a must.  
 
 
The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by the 
owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with a 2 X 2 
That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in the big 
bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as we call 
them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still use my 
Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications when the 
center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have done 15 foot 
posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down to roping a tooth 
pick.  Welcome to the group that does not accept "limitations"
 
Mike OK
 
 On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:
  
 Hello Everyone, 
  I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy 
Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its 
capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your 
experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides.  
  To add a little input to the recent group conversations 
  Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were 
well seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin / fingernail 
during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I prefer to focus 
on. 
  Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and accessories 
for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another (at least that 
what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I did bump into this 
one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It is a little older but it 
appears to have a variety of gears as well as the manuals and instructional 
videos ( including a VHS player )  Legacy ( Woodchuck ) Ornamental Mill - tools 
- by owner - sale (craigslist.org) 
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Re: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread Tim Ziegler
Curts right I added a little over 2 foot of extra rail to runs some 8 foot
plus on my 1200 worked great just
needed more supports.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 7:19 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello again Jeff
>
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take
> some slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and
> using some time of object to hold the end of your stock.
> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.
> Then latter I extended my rails.
> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck.
>
> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some
> snow coming down today.
>
> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock
> 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move
> around. I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their
> compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what
> generation to call these since Legacy improved something it seemed almost
> every year for a while and came out with yet another model / package to
> offer.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt
>   I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good
> filtered mask is a must.
>
> The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by
> the owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with
> a 2 X 2 That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in
> the big bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as
> we call them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still
> use my Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications
> when the center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have
> done 15 foot posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down
> to roping a tooth pick.  Welcome to the group that does not accept
> "limitations"
>
> Mike OK
> On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy
> Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its
> capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your
> experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides.
>
> To add a little input to the recent group conversations
>
> Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were
> well seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin /
> fingernail during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I
> prefer to focus on.
>
> Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and
> accessories for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another
> (at least that what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I
> did bump into this one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It is a
> little older but it appears to have a variety of gears as well as the
> manuals and instructional videos ( including a VHS player )  Legacy (
> Woodchuck ) Ornamental Mill - tools - by owner - sale (craigslist.org)
> 
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
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Re: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread Tim Ziegler
Hey Stranger great to here from you Mike.

Speaking of the Wood Chuck I was playing on mine today.
Yes as I looked there are some things about it I really like and now super
glad
I keep it. I found another only 10 miles from me but not sure if he's
willing to
part with it. Drive and all just like mine.
I'll add a couple pix later
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 5:43 PM Okla Mike (Liltwisted) <
legacym...@iglide.net> wrote:

> Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt
>   I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good
> filtered mask is a must.
>
> The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by
> the owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with
> a 2 X 2 That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in
> the big bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as
> we call them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still
> use my Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications
> when the center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have
> done 15 foot posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down
> to roping a tooth pick.  Welcome to the group that does not accept
> "limitations"
>
> Mike OK
> On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy
> Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its
> capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your
> experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides.
>
> To add a little input to the recent group conversations
>
> Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were
> well seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin /
> fingernail during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I
> prefer to focus on.
>
> Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and
> accessories for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another
> (at least that what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I
> did bump into this one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It is a
> little older but it appears to have a variety of gears as well as the
> manuals and instructional videos ( including a VHS player )  Legacy (
> Woodchuck ) Ornamental Mill - tools - by owner - sale (craigslist.org)
> 
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
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Re: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread Tim Ziegler
https://www.routerforums.com/forums/woodworking-classifieds.16/
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 4:09 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

> Hi Tim,
>
> Thanks for the welcome. I can relate to adopting the whole tool but the
> challenge ever increases trying to find another corner in the garage to put
> them. I will have to dig up some photos.
>
> I believe Belchertown is in central Massachusetts which is about a 1 hour
> drive from me in Northeast CT.
>
> I am still looking for a rotary table accessory, I wished I had bought one
> when Legacy was still offering them but it was close to $300 back then. I
> was only doing a few spindles / candlesticks at the time so it wasn’t a
> definitive need. The search continues……
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 2:50 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> Hey Jeff,
>
> Welcome,
> Yeah good old Wood Chuck, a few of us actually have them. I may inquire
> for the drive.
> So yeah I'm one looking for parts all the time and everytime I purchase
> another machine its
> too good to take parts from so then my search continues. . I robbed my
> drive off my WoodChuck to
> but on my 1200 LOM.
> I figured the stench would be a bit tough turning that stuff, but my sense
> of smell has been hampered by
> covid I had in september  so now would be the time to turn it right. no
> smeller lol.
> Where is Belcher Town
> Well very nice to meet you and hope to hear more from you.
> Feel free to drop pix in from time to time to we'd all love to hear from
> you.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 11:57 AM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a
>> Legacy Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and
>> its capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your
>> experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides.
>>
>> To add a little input to the recent group conversations
>>
>> Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were
>> well seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin /
>> fingernail during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I
>> prefer to focus on.
>>
>> Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and
>> accessories for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another
>> (at least that what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I
>> did bump into this one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It is a
>> little older but it appears to have a variety of gears as well as the
>> manuals and instructional videos ( including a VHS player )  Legacy (
>> Woodchuck ) Ornamental Mill - tools - by owner - sale (craigslist.org)
>> 
>>
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>
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Re: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread Tim Ziegler
Thanks Jeff,

Yes I had to search for a rotary table too and found one on the Router
Forum I belong too.
However trying to get any response on there is like pulling teeth. Like
Curt says "Crickets"
I'd have to check the miles on that one. Wow.
But I sent my kids all the way to Texas for my first LOM, my Wood Chuck was
in my back door.
then Wisconsin for one, and finally South Dakota for the last one nice 1200
that I'm making into
a REVO HYBRID. I'll be posting more on that here in a while.  Its a shorten
up 1200 but will have
2 different area's to turn. In front like the Revo and in the middle like
the basic LOM's are.
I put a drive on it today so its a work in progress. I had to rob peter to
pay paul on that one.
So enough on me and my bad habits lol.
We are looking forward to your progress and if I recall someone out there
does have a rotary table for sale.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 4:09 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

> Hi Tim,
>
> Thanks for the welcome. I can relate to adopting the whole tool but the
> challenge ever increases trying to find another corner in the garage to put
> them. I will have to dig up some photos.
>
> I believe Belchertown is in central Massachusetts which is about a 1 hour
> drive from me in Northeast CT.
>
> I am still looking for a rotary table accessory, I wished I had bought one
> when Legacy was still offering them but it was close to $300 back then. I
> was only doing a few spindles / candlesticks at the time so it wasn’t a
> definitive need. The search continues……
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 2:50 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
> 
> Hey Jeff,
>
> Welcome,
> Yeah good old Wood Chuck, a few of us actually have them. I may inquire
> for the drive.
> So yeah I'm one looking for parts all the time and everytime I purchase
> another machine its
> too good to take parts from so then my search continues. . I robbed my
> drive off my WoodChuck to
> but on my 1200 LOM.
> I figured the stench would be a bit tough turning that stuff, but my sense
> of smell has been hampered by
> covid I had in september  so now would be the time to turn it right. no
> smeller lol.
> Where is Belcher Town
> Well very nice to meet you and hope to hear more from you.
> Feel free to drop pix in from time to time to we'd all love to hear from
> you.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 11:57 AM Jeff Richmond 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a
>> Legacy Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and
>> its capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your
>> experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides.
>>
>> To add a little input to the recent group conversations
>>
>> Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were
>> well seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin /
>> fingernail during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I
>> prefer to focus on.
>>
>> Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and
>> accessories for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another
>> (at least that what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I
>> did bump into this one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It is a
>> little older but it appears to have a variety of gears as well as the
>> manuals and instructional videos ( including a VHS player )  Legacy (
>> Woodchuck ) Ornamental Mill - tools - by owner - sale (craigslist.org)
>> 
>>
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>>
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RE: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread bulkeley
I had forgotten I do like that one

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 29 November 2021 1:26 PM
To: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 

Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Just found Joe's tailstock. (Pretty Slick! )

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 09:22:42 PM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hey Jeff

 

I think you will find a few Shop Smith users here in our group.

 

Legacy for some reason stopped making Legacy's with removeable tailstock 
adaptors.

The tailstock can be modified to hole a MT2 adaptor, but it will take some 
machining on a steel lathe to make it work. Here is a photo of mine.

What you see in the photos is a MT2 adaptor with a hole at the end, the 
DeStayCo clamp male adaptor is just held in place with a set screw. the plastic 
bushing and clamp are the only things that hold it in place.

 

Another approach is one of our members (Joe) bought a amazon tail stock. 
(something like this one ,  
https://www.amazon.com/Tailstock-Woodworking-Engraving-Milling-Machine/dp/B07RRG2YFK/ref=sr_1_38?crid=3DX2G6NS62BPF
 
<https://www.amazon.com/Tailstock-Woodworking-Engraving-Milling-Machine/dp/B07RRG2YFK/ref=sr_1_38?crid=3DX2G6NS62BPF=lathe+tailstock=1638151454=lathe+tail%2Caps%2C193=8-38>
 
=lathe+tailstock=1638151454=lathe+tail%2Caps%2C193=8-38 
 and re-worked his Legacy using it.)

A third (no name.) just made a live center and mounted it over the Legacy's 
dead center.

 

Or do as I did on my Pedal lathe. I ground down the dead center, and tapped it 
1/2 24(? fine threads) and mounted a Shop Smith live center on the threaded 
shaft.

 

When there is a will, There is Always a way!

 

Have a good night.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:46:57 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Thanks again Curt, yes that makes sense and is pretty creative use of a hole in 
the garage wall. Lol

 

Even with my limited use, a live center is definitely an upgrade I see a need 
for on the Legacy. I will have to check compatibility with the shopsmith I 
have. I use that as a lathe from time to time but mainly just pens.

 

I definitely wish I had joined this group moons ago. 

 

Jeff from Connecticut





On Nov 28, 2021, at 8:20 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:



Woops. I missed something.

 

4' cutting at a time. and then flipping the stock over to cut the other 4'. Is 
what I thought I wrote.   (hope this helps?)

 

C.A.G.

 

 

On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:19:14 PM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Hello again Jeff

 

Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using some 
time of object to hold the end of your stock. 

I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.

Then latter I extended my rails.

Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 

 

When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
coming down today. 

 

I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 900) 
but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move around. I am 
not familiar with the previous generation models and their compatibility with 
the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what generation to call these 
since Legacy improved something it seemed almost every year for a while and 
came out with yet another model / package to offer.

 

Jeff from Connecticut 





On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) mailto:legacym...@iglide.net> > wrote:

 

Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt   I 
don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good filtered mask is a must.  

The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by the 
owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with a 2 X 2 
That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in the big 
bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as we call 
them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still use my 
Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications when the 
center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have done 15 foot 
posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down to roping a tooth 
pick.  Welcome to the group that does not accept "limitations"

Mike OK

On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond 

Re: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread Tim Ziegler
Well thats certainly good to hear. Let er fly Jeff.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 2:50 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

> Thanks for the links Curt, I will have to check those out.
>
> I have a 900 manual model which I purchased back in the early /mid 2000’s
> after seeing it demo at a woodworking show and used it for a few small
> projects / gifts. With the cost and it only being a hobby with a young
> family at the time, I have only a few accessories but still never really
> stretched the machines capabilities with my early efforts. Figured it was
> finally time to dust it off and make chips fly again.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> On Nov 28, 2021, at 1:07 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Hello Jeff
>
> Welcome to the group.
>
> What modal Legacy do you own?
>
> Hopefully we will have a video collection of training videos for the group
> to watch. ( A project in the works. But sadly I have not idea when this
> will happen.) But at this time You tube has a number of them.  Mike Pung
> has a few and so dose Bill.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o  These two videos are good,
> Mike has some others...
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI_QyBna7Ac=28s
>
> https://www.youtube.com/user/aussiman77181  there are more then a few no
> bills site.
>
> Have a good day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 12:57:29 PM EST, Jeff Richmond <
> jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy
> Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its
> capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your
> experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides.
>
> To add a little input to the recent group conversations
>
> Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were
> well seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin /
> fingernail during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I
> prefer to focus on.
>
> Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and
> accessories for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another
> (at least that what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I
> did bump into this one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It is a
> little older but it appears to have a variety of gears as well as the
> manuals and instructional videos ( including a VHS player )  Legacy (
> Woodchuck ) Ornamental Mill - tools - by owner - sale (craigslist.org)
> 
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
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Re: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread Jeff Richmond
Thanks again Curt, yes that makes sense and is pretty creative use of a hole in 
the garage wall. Lol

Even with my limited use, a live center is definitely an upgrade I see a need 
for on the Legacy. I will have to check compatibility with the shopsmith I 
have. I use that as a lathe from time to time but mainly just pens.

I definitely wish I had joined this group moons ago. 

Jeff from Connecticut

> On Nov 28, 2021, at 8:20 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Woops. I missed something.
> 
> 4' cutting at a time. and then flipping the stock over to cut the other 4'. 
> Is what I thought I wrote.   (hope this helps?)
> 
> C.A.G.
> 
> 
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:19:14 PM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
> Ornamental Mills  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello again Jeff
> 
> Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
> slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using 
> some time of object to hold the end of your stock. 
> I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.
> Then latter I extended my rails.
> Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 
> 
> When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
> 
> C.A.G.
> 
>> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
>> coming down today. 
>> 
>> I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 
>> 900) but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move 
>> around. I am not familiar with the previous generation models and their 
>> compatibility with the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what 
>> generation to call these since Legacy improved something it seemed almost 
>> every year for a while and came out with yet another model / package to 
>> offer.
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut 
>> 
>>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
> 
> Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt   
> I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good filtered mask is a 
> must.  
> 
> The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by the 
> owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with a 2 X 
> 2 That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in the big 
> bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as we call 
> them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still use my 
> Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications when the 
> center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have done 15 foot 
> posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down to roping a 
> tooth pick.  Welcome to the group that does not accept "limitations"
> 
> Mike OK
> 
> On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy 
>> Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its 
>> capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your 
>> experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides. 
>> 
>> To add a little input to the recent group conversations
>> 
>> Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were 
>> well seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin / 
>> fingernail during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I 
>> prefer to focus on.
>> 
>> Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and accessories 
>> for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another (at least 
>> that what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I did bump 
>> into this one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It is a little 
>> older but it appears to have a variety of gears as well as the manuals and 
>> instructional videos ( including a VHS player )  Legacy ( Woodchuck ) 
>> Ornamental Mill - tools - by owner - sale (craigslist.org)
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut
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RE: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread bulkeley
Also if you hold the work in a chuck and the other end in a steady rest you can 
do it all in just the mill . do half then end for end and do the second half 

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 29 November 2021 12:19 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New member introduction

 

Hello again Jeff

 

Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using some 
time of object to hold the end of your stock. 

I small hole in the wall in my garage did it first, to hold my live center.

Then latter I extended my rails.

Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 

 

When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
coming down today. 

 

I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 900) 
but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move around. I am 
not familiar with the previous generation models and their compatibility with 
the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what generation to call these 
since Legacy improved something it seemed almost every year for a while and 
came out with yet another model / package to offer.

 

Jeff from Connecticut 





On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) mailto:legacym...@iglide.net> > wrote:

 

Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt   I 
don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good filtered mask is a must.  

The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by the 
owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with a 2 X 2 
That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in the big 
bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as we call 
them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still use my 
Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications when the 
center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have done 15 foot 
posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down to roping a tooth 
pick.  Welcome to the group that does not accept "limitations"

Mike OK

On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:

Hello Everyone, 

 

I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy 
Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its 
capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your 
experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides. 

 

To add a little input to the recent group conversations

 

Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were well 
seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin / fingernail 
during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I prefer to focus 
on.

 

Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and accessories 
for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another (at least that 
what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I did bump into this 
one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It is a little older but it 
appears to have a variety of gears as well as the manuals and instructional 
videos ( including a VHS player )  Legacy ( Woodchuck ) Ornamental Mill - tools 
- by owner - sale (craigslist.org) 
<https://hartford.craigslist.org/tls/d/belchertown-legacy-woodchuck-ornamental/7411703460.html>
 

 

Jeff from Connecticut

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Re: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Woops. I missed something.
4' cutting at a time. and then flipping the stock over to cut the other 4'. Is 
what I thought I wrote.   (hope this helps?)
C.A.G.

On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:19:14 PM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote:  
 
  Hello again Jeff
Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using some 
time of object to hold the end of your stock. I small hole in the wall in my 
garage did it first, to hold my live center.Then latter I extended my 
rails.Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 
When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
C.A.G.
On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
 wrote:  
 
 Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
coming down today. 
I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 900) 
but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move around. I am 
not familiar with the previous generation models and their compatibility with 
the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what generation to call these 
since Legacy improved something it seemed almost every year for a while and 
came out with yet another model / package to offer.
Jeff from Connecticut 


On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  
wrote:





Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt   I 
don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good filtered mask is a must.  
 
 
The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by the 
owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with a 2 X 2 
That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in the big 
bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as we call 
them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still use my 
Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications when the 
center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have done 15 foot 
posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down to roping a tooth 
pick.  Welcome to the group that does not accept "limitations"
 
Mike OK
 
 On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:
  
 Hello Everyone, 
  I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy 
Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its 
capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your 
experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides.  
  To add a little input to the recent group conversations 
  Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were 
well seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin / fingernail 
during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I prefer to focus 
on. 
  Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and accessories 
for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another (at least that 
what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I did bump into this 
one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It is a little older but it 
appears to have a variety of gears as well as the manuals and instructional 
videos ( including a VHS player )  Legacy ( Woodchuck ) Ornamental Mill - tools 
- by owner - sale (craigslist.org) 
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Re: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Hello again Jeff
Your 900 can turn a 8' post if you only turn 4' at a time. It will take some 
slight modifications, like removing your tailstock on the legacy and using some 
time of object to hold the end of your stock. I small hole in the wall in my 
garage did it first, to hold my live center.Then latter I extended my 
rails.Mike added another lathe tail stock to his Wood Chuck. 
When there is a will, there is Always a way! ;-)
C.A.G.
On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:08:06 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
 wrote:  
 
 Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
coming down today. 
I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 900) 
but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move around. I am 
not familiar with the previous generation models and their compatibility with 
the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what generation to call these 
since Legacy improved something it seemed almost every year for a while and 
came out with yet another model / package to offer.
Jeff from Connecticut 


On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  
wrote:





Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt   I 
don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good filtered mask is a must.  
 
 
The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by the 
owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with a 2 X 2 
That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in the big 
bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as we call 
them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still use my 
Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications when the 
center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have done 15 foot 
posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down to roping a tooth 
pick.  Welcome to the group that does not accept "limitations"
 
Mike OK
 
 On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:
  
 Hello Everyone, 
  I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy 
Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its 
capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your 
experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides.  
  To add a little input to the recent group conversations 
  Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were 
well seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin / fingernail 
during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I prefer to focus 
on. 
  Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and accessories 
for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another (at least that 
what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I did bump into this 
one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It is a little older but it 
appears to have a variety of gears as well as the manuals and instructional 
videos ( including a VHS player )  Legacy ( Woodchuck ) Ornamental Mill - tools 
- by owner - sale (craigslist.org) 
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Re: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread Jeff Richmond
Thanks for the background Mike and the warm welcome. I think I saw some snow 
coming down today. 

I have a goal of being able to do 8’ posts in the future (not on my stock 900) 
but a 15’ post must be a sight to behold and a real bear to move around. I am 
not familiar with the previous generation models and their compatibility with 
the newer manual / driven mills. I am not sure what generation to call these 
since Legacy improved something it seemed almost every year for a while and 
came out with yet another model / package to offer.

Jeff from Connecticut 

> On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Okla Mike (Liltwisted)  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt   
> I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good filtered mask is a 
> must.  
> 
> The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made by the 
> owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced it with a 2 X 
> 2 That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would turn up in the big 
> bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was the Steely as we call 
> them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add strength.  I still use my 
> Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the way of modifications when the 
> center points are raised and not trapped between rails.  I have done 15 foot 
> posts and table bases with a diameter of 25" All the way down to roping a 
> tooth pick.  Welcome to the group that does not accept "limitations"
> 
> Mike OK
> 
> On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy 
>> Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its 
>> capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your 
>> experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides. 
>> 
>> To add a little input to the recent group conversations
>> 
>> Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were 
>> well seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin / 
>> fingernail during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I 
>> prefer to focus on.
>> 
>> Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and accessories 
>> for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another (at least 
>> that what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I did bump 
>> into this one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It is a little 
>> older but it appears to have a variety of gears as well as the manuals and 
>> instructional videos ( including a VHS player )  Legacy ( Woodchuck ) 
>> Ornamental Mill - tools - by owner - sale (craigslist.org)
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut
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Re: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread Okla Mike (Liltwisted)
Welcome to the group Jeff.  I'm with you on the smell of burnt 
  I don't like it at all.  Air exchange as well as a good 
filtered mask is a must.


The Wood Chuck in the picture has one very important mod that was made 
by the owner.  He took the 1 X 2 steel rail off the front and replaced 
it with a 2 X 2 That I am sure helped with a lot of the sway that would 
turn up in the big bladed cuts.  The next model after the wood chuck was 
the Steely as we call them.  They used square galvanized tubes to add 
strength.  I still use my Woodchuck because I can do a lot more in the 
way of modifications when the center points are raised and not trapped 
between rails.  I have done 15 foot posts and table bases with a 
diameter of 25" All the way down to roping a tooth pick.  Welcome to the 
group that does not accept "limitations"


Mike OK

On 11/28/2021 7:01 AM, Jeff Richmond wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a 
Legacy Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool 
and its capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing 
offering your experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this 
provides.


To add a little input to the recent group conversations

Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which 
were well seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt 
skin / fingernail during the process. They came out well but it is not 
a medium I prefer to focus on.


Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and 
accessories for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need 
another (at least that what I have to keep telling myself) but in my 
searching, I did bump into this one if anyone wants to expand their 
capability. It is a little older but it appears to have a variety of 
gears as well as the manuals and instructional videos ( including a 
VHS player ) Legacy ( Woodchuck ) Ornamental Mill - tools - by owner - 
sale (craigslist.org) 



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Re: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread Jeff Richmond
Hi Curt, 

My 900 is a manual model with the hand crank. It did pretty well for me on 
candlesticks and canes gifts back then but I am hoping to expand my project 
range. I haven't performed any modifications to the machine yet but may 
consider it.

The links you provided will be very helpful. I haven’t used the machine in 
quite a while so I have been going over my old information and also found a few 
YouTube videos. I can’t watch my old Legacy VHS tapes right now, it seems that 
the player was packed away a little too good when I moved a couple years ago. 

Thanks again.

Jeff from Connecticut 

> On Nov 28, 2021, at 4:17 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Again Jeff
> 
> Depending on your ability's to make some simple jigs and things like. You can 
> make your Legacy into a very real work horse.
> I'm not suggesting that you completely re-work your Legacy like I did. But by 
> adding a few simple attachments to your Legacy will greatly increase you 
> machines ability's.
> 
> Do you have a motor drive/on your Acme screw, for your Legacy? also adding a 
> spindle drive motor will also help you out a lot.
> Other attachments like that turn table, steady rest (both vertical and 
> horizontal ) can all be made by you, If you don't already own them. 
> 
> This group was made for the Legacy user, to share and learn how to make the 
> most from you Legacy Ornamental Mill (LOM)  I recommend to explore our 
> archives https://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/index.html here as well as 
> on the Google web site.
> 
> Do you Own a lathe?  I find that the Legacy and the Lathe can and will 
> complement each other nicely. Like the candle sticks the Ccm (Roger) made.  
> The two machines work very well together.
> 
> Talk to you more latter.
> Have a good day.
> 
> C.A.G.
> 
>> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 03:50:52 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for the links Curt, I will have to check those out. 
>> 
>> I have a 900 manual model which I purchased back in the early /mid 2000’s 
>> after seeing it demo at a woodworking show and used it for a few small 
>> projects / gifts. With the cost and it only being a hobby with a young 
>> family at the time, I have only a few accessories but still never really 
>> stretched the machines capabilities with my early efforts. Figured it was 
>> finally time to dust it off and make chips fly again.
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>> 
>>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 1:07 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hello Jeff
>> 
>> Welcome to the group.
>> 
>> What modal Legacy do you own?
>> 
>> Hopefully we will have a video collection of training videos for the group 
>> to watch. ( A project in the works. But sadly I have not idea when this will 
>> happen.) But at this time You tube has a number of them.  Mike Pung has a 
>> few and so dose Bill.
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o  These two videos are good, Mike 
>> has some others...
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI_QyBna7Ac=28s 
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/user/aussiman77181  there are more then a few no 
>> bills site.
>> 
>> Have a good day.
>> 
>> C.A.G.
>> 
>> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 12:57:29 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy 
>> Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its 
>> capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your 
>> experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides. 
>> 
>> To add a little input to the recent group conversations
>> 
>> Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were 
>> well seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin / 
>> fingernail during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I 
>> prefer to focus on.
>> 
>> Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and accessories 
>> for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another (at least 
>> that what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I did bump 
>> into this one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It is a little 
>> older but it appears to have a variety of gears as well as the manuals and 
>> instructional videos ( including a VHS player )  Legacy ( Woodchuck ) 
>> Ornamental Mill - tools - by owner - sale (craigslist.org)
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut
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Re: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread Jeff Richmond
Thanks for the offer Curt, I will reach out shortly. 

Jeff from Connecticut

> On Nov 28, 2021, at 5:14 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Again Jeff
> 
> If you want I have an extra turn table.  
> Send me a e-mail   curt.geo...@yahoo.com 
> Perhaps we could come to some agreements on getting you one?
> 
> C.A.G.
> 
>> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 05:09:09 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Tim, 
>> 
>> Thanks for the welcome. I can relate to adopting the whole tool but the 
>> challenge ever increases trying to find another corner in the garage to put 
>> them. I will have to dig up some photos.
>> 
>> I believe Belchertown is in central Massachusetts which is about a 1 hour 
>> drive from me in Northeast CT. 
>> 
>> I am still looking for a rotary table accessory, I wished I had bought one 
>> when Legacy was still offering them but it was close to $300 back then. I 
>> was only doing a few spindles / candlesticks at the time so it wasn’t a 
>> definitive need. The search continues……
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut
>> 
>>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 2:50 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hey Jeff, 
>> 
>> Welcome, 
>> Yeah good old Wood Chuck, a few of us actually have them. I may inquire for 
>> the drive. 
>> So yeah I'm one looking for parts all the time and everytime I purchase 
>> another machine its
>> too good to take parts from so then my search continues. . I robbed my drive 
>> off my WoodChuck to 
>> but on my 1200 LOM.
>> I figured the stench would be a bit tough turning that stuff, but my sense 
>> of smell has been hampered by 
>> covid I had in september  so now would be the time to turn it right. no 
>> smeller lol. 
>> Where is Belcher Town
>> Well very nice to meet you and hope to hear more from you. 
>> Feel free to drop pix in from time to time to we'd all love to hear from 
>> you. 
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> 
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 11:57 AM Jeff Richmond  wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy 
>> Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its 
>> capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your 
>> experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides. 
>> 
>> To add a little input to the recent group conversations
>> 
>> Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were 
>> well seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin / 
>> fingernail during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I 
>> prefer to focus on.
>> 
>> Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and accessories 
>> for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another (at least 
>> that what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I did bump 
>> into this one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It is a little 
>> older but it appears to have a variety of gears as well as the manuals and 
>> instructional videos ( including a VHS player )  Legacy ( Woodchuck ) 
>> Ornamental Mill - tools - by owner - sale (craigslist.org)
>> 
>> Jeff from Connecticut
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Re: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Hello Again Jeff
If you want I have an extra turn table.  Send me a e-mail   
curt.geo...@yahoo.com Perhaps we could come to some agreements on getting you 
one?
C.A.G.    
On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 05:09:09 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi Tim, 
Thanks for the welcome. I can relate to adopting the whole tool but the 
challenge ever increases trying to find another corner in the garage to put 
them. I will have to dig up some photos.
I believe Belchertown is in central Massachusetts which is about a 1 hour drive 
from me in Northeast CT. 
I am still looking for a rotary table accessory, I wished I had bought one when 
Legacy was still offering them but it was close to $300 back then. I was only 
doing a few spindles / candlesticks at the time so it wasn’t a definitive need. 
The search continues……

Jeff from Connecticut

On Nov 28, 2021, at 2:50 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:



Hey Jeff, 
Welcome, Yeah good old Wood Chuck, a few of us actually have them. I may 
inquire for the drive. So yeah I'm one looking for parts all the time and 
everytime I purchase another machine itstoo good to take parts from so then my 
search continues. . I robbed my drive off my WoodChuck to but on my 1200 LOM.I 
figured the stench would be a bit tough turning that stuff, but my sense of 
smell has been hampered by covid I had in september  so now would be the time 
to turn it right. no smeller lol. Where is Belcher TownWell very nice to 
meet you and hope to hear more from you. Feel free to drop pix in from time to 
time to we'd all love to hear from you. 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 11:57 AM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

Hello Everyone,
I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy 
Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its 
capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your 
experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides. 
To add a little input to the recent group conversations
Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were well 
seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin / fingernail 
during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I prefer to focus 
on.
Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and accessories 
for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another (at least that 
what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I did bump into this 
one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It is a little older but it 
appears to have a variety of gears as well as the manuals and instructional 
videos ( including a VHS player )  Legacy ( Woodchuck ) Ornamental Mill - tools 
- by owner - sale (craigslist.org)
Jeff from Connecticut

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Re: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread Jeff Richmond
Hi Tim, 

Thanks for the welcome. I can relate to adopting the whole tool but the 
challenge ever increases trying to find another corner in the garage to put 
them. I will have to dig up some photos.

I believe Belchertown is in central Massachusetts which is about a 1 hour drive 
from me in Northeast CT. 

I am still looking for a rotary table accessory, I wished I had bought one when 
Legacy was still offering them but it was close to $300 back then. I was only 
doing a few spindles / candlesticks at the time so it wasn’t a definitive need. 
The search continues……

Jeff from Connecticut

> On Nov 28, 2021, at 2:50 PM, Tim Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey Jeff, 
> 
> Welcome, 
> Yeah good old Wood Chuck, a few of us actually have them. I may inquire for 
> the drive. 
> So yeah I'm one looking for parts all the time and everytime I purchase 
> another machine its
> too good to take parts from so then my search continues. . I robbed my drive 
> off my WoodChuck to 
> but on my 1200 LOM.
> I figured the stench would be a bit tough turning that stuff, but my sense of 
> smell has been hampered by 
> covid I had in september  so now would be the time to turn it right. no 
> smeller lol. 
> Where is Belcher Town
> Well very nice to meet you and hope to hear more from you. 
> Feel free to drop pix in from time to time to we'd all love to hear from you. 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 11:57 AM Jeff Richmond  wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy 
>> Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its 
>> capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your 
>> experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides. 
>> 
>> To add a little input to the recent group conversations
>> 
>> Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were 
>> well seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin / 
>> fingernail during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I 
>> prefer to focus on.
>> 
>> Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and accessories 
>> for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another (at least 
>> that what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I did bump 
>> into this one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It is a little 
>> older but it appears to have a variety of gears as well as the manuals and 
>> instructional videos ( including a VHS player )  Legacy ( Woodchuck ) 
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Re: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread Jeff Richmond
Thanks for the links Curt, I will have to check those out. 

I have a 900 manual model which I purchased back in the early /mid 2000’s after 
seeing it demo at a woodworking show and used it for a few small projects / 
gifts. With the cost and it only being a hobby with a young family at the time, 
I have only a few accessories but still never really stretched the machines 
capabilities with my early efforts. Figured it was finally time to dust it off 
and make chips fly again.

Jeff from Connecticut

> On Nov 28, 2021, at 1:07 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Jeff
> 
> Welcome to the group.
> 
> What modal Legacy do you own?
> 
> Hopefully we will have a video collection of training videos for the group to 
> watch. ( A project in the works. But sadly I have not idea when this will 
> happen.) But at this time You tube has a number of them.  Mike Pung has a few 
> and so dose Bill.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o  These two videos are good, Mike 
> has some others...
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI_QyBna7Ac=28s 
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/user/aussiman77181  there are more then a few no 
> bills site.
> 
> Have a good day.
> 
> C.A.G.
> 
> On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 12:57:29 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy 
> Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its 
> capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your 
> experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides. 
> 
> To add a little input to the recent group conversations
> 
> Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were 
> well seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin / 
> fingernail during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I 
> prefer to focus on.
> 
> Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and accessories 
> for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another (at least 
> that what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I did bump into 
> this one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It is a little older but 
> it appears to have a variety of gears as well as the manuals and 
> instructional videos ( including a VHS player )  Legacy ( Woodchuck ) 
> Ornamental Mill - tools - by owner - sale (craigslist.org)
> 
> Jeff from Connecticut
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Re: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread Tim Ziegler
Hey Jeff,

Welcome,
Yeah good old Wood Chuck, a few of us actually have them. I may inquire for
the drive.
So yeah I'm one looking for parts all the time and everytime I purchase
another machine its
too good to take parts from so then my search continues. . I robbed my
drive off my WoodChuck to
but on my 1200 LOM.
I figured the stench would be a bit tough turning that stuff, but my sense
of smell has been hampered by
covid I had in september  so now would be the time to turn it right. no
smeller lol.
Where is Belcher Town
Well very nice to meet you and hope to hear more from you.
Feel free to drop pix in from time to time to we'd all love to hear from
you.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 11:57 AM Jeff Richmond 
wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy
> Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its
> capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your
> experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides.
>
> To add a little input to the recent group conversations
>
> Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were
> well seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin /
> fingernail during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I
> prefer to focus on.
>
> Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and
> accessories for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another
> (at least that what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I
> did bump into this one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It is a
> little older but it appears to have a variety of gears as well as the
> manuals and instructional videos ( including a VHS player )  Legacy (
> Woodchuck ) Ornamental Mill - tools - by owner - sale (craigslist.org)
> 
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
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Re: New member introduction

2021-11-28 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Hello Jeff
Welcome to the group.
What modal Legacy do you own?
Hopefully we will have a video collection of training videos for the group to 
watch. ( A project in the works. But sadly I have not idea when this will 
happen.) But at this time You tube has a number of them.  Mike Pung has a few 
and so dose Bill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o  These two videos are good, Mike 
has some others...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI_QyBna7Ac=28s 

https://www.youtube.com/user/aussiman77181  there are more then a few no bills 
site.

Have a good day.
C.A.G.
On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 12:57:29 PM EST, Jeff Richmond 
 wrote:  
 
 Hello Everyone,
I recently joined this group in late October as a fellow owner of a Legacy 
Ornamental Mill with the hopes of learning more about this tool and its 
capabilities. Thanks in advance to everyone for sharing offering your 
experiences and helpful tips that a user group like this provides. 
To add a little input to the recent group conversations
Bone Turning, I have turned some deer antler pens upon request which were well 
seasoned (dry) but there was a distinct smell like burnt skin / fingernail 
during the process. They came out well but it is not a medium I prefer to focus 
on.
Lookout for used mills: I am always on the lookout for parts and accessories 
for my mill as I am sure most of you are. I do not need another (at least that 
what I have to keep telling myself) but in my searching, I did bump into this 
one if anyone wants to expand their capability. It is a little older but it 
appears to have a variety of gears as well as the manuals and instructional 
videos ( including a VHS player )  Legacy ( Woodchuck ) Ornamental Mill - tools 
- by owner - sale (craigslist.org)
Jeff from Connecticut

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