On 04/08/2019 02:22, Anne Hildrum wrote:
Well isn't CA an Acronym.
No! It's an abbreviation. An acronym is initial letters which are
commonly pronounced as a word, such as RIN.
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Just an interjection - the standard is that the last 4 fields of the location
are "city, county, state, country". It s also standard to use other data in
front of those 4 (e.g. neighborho
t jurisdiction they
>>> once were governed by. It is all about being usable for current people.
>>> Otherwise, we would all be recording everying in Latin like they once did.
>>>
>>> Hoosierly yours,
>>>
>>> James G. Hermsen
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. Hermsen
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*Objet :* Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
I always use the current geographic location and name today in
each entry and in the notes, remark that the geographic name and
country was different then than it is today. That way w
he
different Gedcom programs.
Georges
*De :*LegacyUserGroup *De
la part de* Christopher Seward Sr
*Envoyé :* 3 août 2019 09:21
*À :* Legacy User Group
*Objet :* Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
James, I understand where you're coming from. I just think that
handling data in a
Scott, I agree with you about using the word Township (although we do
abbreviate it as Twp consistently because it is well understood in
America, but I get your point). I probably will re-visit this and use a
FIND and REPLACE to change the abbreviation from Twp to spelling out
Township).
I
s.com>
*Cc :* James G. Hermsen
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*Objet :* Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
I always use the current geographic location and name today in
each entry and in the notes, remark that the geographic name and
country was differe
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*Objet :* Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
James, I understand where you're coming from. I just think that
handling data in a manner that deviates from the standard is inviting
data integrity issues. As I said
On 06-Aug-19 02:30 AM, CE WOOD wrote:
If you are posting in plain text, there is no way other than to use
capitals for emphasis. There is no way to "bold", "underline",
"highlight", et alia, leaving capitals as the only option.
Actually that is not so. The convention is to use *This* to
Lane
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> *From:* LegacyUserGroup *On
> Behalf Of *Andrew Robbie
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 4, 2019 11:32 PM
> *To:* 'Legacy User Group'
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ng capitals as the only option.
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> *From:* LegacyUserGroup on
> behalf of John Cardinal
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> It's not a sc
Returns? Do have dreams at night too?
CE
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
Andrew – You can still enter lat/long
f
John Cardinal
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
It's not a scream. All-caps for a single word in a sentence is typically used
to indicate strong emphasis of the given word. But you knew that.
I'm with Mic
s thread are really helpful. I may have to rethink things.
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> *From: *Scott Hall
> *Sent: *Sunday, August 4, 2019 10:53 AM
> *To: *Legacy User Group
> *Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
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> I wanted to chime
, August 05, 2019 11:42 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
You scream often?
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 4, 2019, at 11:38 PM, Michele Morrison mailto:michele25m...@gmail.com> > wrote:
Could we PLEASE stop this Pennsylvania thread, and jus
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>> From: LegacyUserGroup On Behalf Of
>> Elizabeth Lindsay
>> Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 10:48 PM
>> To: 'Legacy User Group'
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
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>> Unless your re
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Andrew Robbie
Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 11:32 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
One thing that would really, really help here is Legacy resurrecting their
geo-mapping feature. Lat/Long neve
is API
> or that API changing. Just fix it.
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> *From:* LegacyUserGroup *On
> Behalf Of *Elizabeth Lindsay
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 4, 2019 10:48 PM
> *To:* 'Legacy User Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for
PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
Unless your research is always going to be limited to only one country, it is
really helpful to use the full name whenever possible.
Throughout the world, the abbreviations used for cities, towns, counties
: Monday, 5 August 2019 12:18 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
The problem with using the abbreviation for a state is that another country may
use the same abbreviation which will be confusing. eg: CA could be California
or Canada. I have heard
ter the
>>> referenced location name is simply an easy way to translate old location
>>> name into present day name and it is accepted by the different Gedcom
>>> programs.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Georges
>>>
>>>
My suggestion of putting the present name between curly brackets after the
>> referenced location name is simply an easy way to translate old location
>> name into present day name and it is accepted by the different Gedcom
>> programs.
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>> Georges
another task for the programmers who seem to
have too much to handle as it is.
Cheers,
CE
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To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location names
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Georges
*De :*LegacyUserGroup *De la
part de* Christopher Seward Sr
*Envoyé :* 3 août 2019 09:21
*À :* Legacy User Group
*Objet :* Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
James, I understand where you're coming from. I just think that
handling data in a manner that deviates from
-- I don't know if my previous response was received, so trying again.
I would like to agree with those who indicate that the location should
be referenced as it was during the time of the event. If the event
occurred in 1700, the reference to the location should be entered as it
was known
.
Georges
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Andrew Robbie
Envoyé : 4 août 2019 12:30
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Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
If you want to abbreviate then you can always use the short location name to
include abbreviated locations (e.g. MA, USA
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
I wanted to chime into this conversation because I find entering place names to
be a challenge as well, and Pennsylvania is a perfect example.
First, I concur with those who say enter the place name as it was at the time
of the event. Those who
: Sunday, August 4, 2019 8:18 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
In my opinion I would use the full name not abbreviations. Electrons are cheap
enough to go with a full name. I see no reason to shorten anything is genealogy
and bring potential
I would like to agree with those who indicate that the location should
be referenced as it was during the time of the event. If the event
occurred in 1700, the reference to the location should be entered as it
was known at that time.
Remember, we are genealogists. We are basically
a location the way it is indicated
> in the documentation.
>
> If the name has change or if two locations have been merge, I use curly
> brackets with the new name after the old name.
>
> Ex. Romorantin {Romorantin-Lanthenay}, 41194, Loir-et-Cher, Centre-Val de
> Loire, France
&
Scott, you have convinced me to Avoid having family from Pennsylvania. :-)
Unfortunately Mom was from Meadville & Dad was from York.
Thank you for clarifying the challenge for us all.
You can only record what you know to be true. Enter what you know the place
name was at the time of the
I wanted to chime into this conversation because I find entering place
names to be a challenge as well, and Pennsylvania is a perfect example.
First, I concur with those who say enter the place name as it was at the
time of the event. Those who enter the modern address and add the historic
2019 09:23:27 PM EDT, Anne Hildrum
wrote:
Well isn't CA an Acronym.
Ane
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Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 10:51 PM
To: Legacy User Group
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I Live in CA, Not California
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Cc : James G. Hermsen
Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
I always use the current geographic location and name today in each entry and
in the notes, remark that the geographic name and country was different
.
On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 9:23 PM Anne Hildrum wrote:
Well isn't CA an Acronym.
Ane
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I Live in CA, Not California
sen via LegacyUserGroup
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Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
I always use the current geographic location and name today in each entry and
in the notes, remark that the geo
, Anne Hildrum
wrote:
Well isn't CA an Acronym.
Ane
From: LegacyUserGroup On Behalf Of
Ian Macaulay
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 10:51 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
I Live in CA, Not California IMHO Acronyms are not proper
-4600 land line
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, August 01, 2019 01:22:29 PM EDT,
>> sarrazingeor...@gmail.com wrote:
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>>
>> I think one should always the name of a location the way it is indicated in
>> the documentation.
>
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> Behalf Of *Ian Macaulay
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> I Live in CA, Not CaliforniaIMHO Acronyms are not proper English, and
> it confuses your Neighbo
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I always use the current geographic location and nam
Well isn't CA an Acronym.
Ane
From: LegacyUserGroup On Behalf Of
Ian Macaulay
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 10:51 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
I Live in CA, Not CaliforniaIMHO Acronyms are not proper English, and it
confuses
is simply an easy way to translate old
>> location name into present day name and it is accepted by the different
>> Gedcom programs.
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>> Georges
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>> *De :* LegacyUserGroup *De la
>> part de* Chri
gt; My suggestion of putting the present name between curly brackets after the
>> referenced location name is simply an easy way to translate old location
>> name into present day name and it is accepted by the different Gedcom
>> programs.
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>> Georg
day name and it is accepted by the different Gedcom
> programs.
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> Georges
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> *De :* LegacyUserGroup *De la
> part de* Christopher Seward Sr
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> *Objet :* Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pen
De : LegacyUserGroup De la part de
Christopher Seward Sr
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Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
James, I understand where you're coming from. I just think that handling data
in a manner that deviates from the standard
: I use 5 fields)
Georges
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James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup
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I always use the cur
{Québec}, 23027, Capitale-Nationale, Québec, Canada
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Connie
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Thanks for all the info & suggestions. I did not know about curley bracket
d Sr
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> James, I understand where you're coming from. I just think that handling
> data in a manner that deviates from the standard is inviting data integ
: LegacyUserGroup De la part de
Christopher Seward Sr
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Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
James, I understand where you're coming from. I just think that handling data
in a manner that deviates from the standard is inviting data
cumentation.
>
> If the name has change or if two locations have been merge, I use curly
> brackets with the new name after the old name.
>
> Ex. Romorantin {Romorantin-Lanthenay}, 41194, Loir-et-Cher, Centre-Val de
> Loire, France
>
> (Note : I use 5 fields)
>
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Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
I always use the current geographic location and name today in each entry and
in the notes, remark that the geographic name and country was different then
than it is today. That way
Remembered an assist function on an earlier version of Legacy software
concerning counties. Maybe I’m thinking of another software.
*From:* LegacyUserGroup *On Behalf Of *Bill Hoff
*Sent:* Friday, August 02, 2019 8:51 AM
*To:* Legacy User Group
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pe
: Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
On 02-Aug-19 11:27 AM, James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup wrote:
I recommend never to mass import other peoples work. I am careful enough
to know and understand exactly what I import from online. Manually
importing the information, one knows his
From:* LegacyUserGroup *On Behalf Of *Bill Hoff
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> *To:* Legacy User Group
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
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> Then one cannot find on a map if historic locations used. With many
> relatives in West Virgi
an assist function on an earlier version of Legacy software
concerning counties. Maybe I’m thinking of another software.
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
Then one cannot
On 02-Aug-19 11:27 AM, James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup wrote:
I recommend never to mass import other peoples work. I am careful
enough to know and understand exactly what I import from online.
Manually importing the information, one knows his information.
I'm with you on thtat, James.
curly
>> brackets with the new name after the old name.
>>
>> Ex. Romorantin {Romorantin-Lanthenay}, 41194, Loir-et-Cher, Centre-Val de
>> Loire, France
>>
>> (Note : I use 5 fields)
>>
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>>
>> Georges
>>
>>
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Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
I always use the current geographic location and name today in each entry and
in the notes, remark that the geographic name and country was different then
than it is today. That way when a grandc
LegacyUserGroup
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Cc : James G. Hermsen
Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
I always use the current geographic location and name today in each entry and
in the notes, remark that the geographic name and country
*De :*LegacyUserGroup *De la
part de* James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup
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I always use the current geographic location and name today in each
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> (Note : I use 5 fields)
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: Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
I always use the current geographic location and name today in each entry and
in the notes, remark that the geographic name and country was different then
than it is today. That way when a grandchild (or anyone) wants to find the
place on a map
Loire, France
(Note : I use 5 fields)
Georges
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I always use the current
But keep in mind that in many countries more than 4 fields are needed.
Georges
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Linda Greethurst
Envoyé : 1 août 2019 09:23
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Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
Like the others, I do use the 4 comma
location. Same with urban wards. I also use this for
> cemeteries and hospitals. I like the sorting better. And yes, I know that
> one can use a reverse sort order as an alternative solution.
>
>Ward
>
> *From:* William (Bill) R. Linhart
> *Sent:* Thursday, Augu
AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
I do agree.
My standard is: [1. local jurisdiction/repository i.e.township, village,
city, etc], 2.County, 3.State, 4.Country
and apply to other countries similarly by always using three commas for all
I always use the current geographic location and name today in each entry and
in the notes, remark that the geographic name and country was different then
than it is today. That way when a grandchild (or anyone) wants to find the
place on a map is able to do so. Prussia is very hard to find,
Like the others, I do use the 4 comma separations - the majority of the
time. I was taught to always enter the location as it was called AT THE
TIME OF THE EVENT. I have many locations that I cannot fill the 4 sections
because the location didn't adhere to that structure - it was a territory,
a
I hope you are not inserting the the added information if it is not in the
document. The jurisdictions change over time. In the US what was a county in
1850 may be another county in 1860 and still another county by 1870. The house
did not move but the boundaries did.
Marie
Marie Varrelman
I do agree.
My standard is: [1. local jurisdiction/repository i.e.township, village,
city, etc], 2.County, 3.State, 4.Country
and apply to other countries similarly by always using three commas for all
locations [usually each has a repository of genealogical data] . The entry
might between
I do the same thing, Shirley. Most of my ancestors are from Scotland,
Ireland, England, Germany and a spattering of French. The only difference
is I use "province" instead of State.
On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 9:05 PM Shirley Crampton
wrote:
> I use Village, County, State, Country. Hopefully
I use Village, County, State, Country. Hopefully there is no more than 1
village of the same name in the County. If the place is rural then I put
the name of the township in the first position.
On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 5:47 PM Connie Laubach
wrote:
> Trying to decide how to input the location
Trying to decide how to input the location names – I have townships that are
made up of villages and boroughs. How are others handling it?
I have thought of the following:
Village, township, county, state, United States
or
township-village, country, state, United States (I like this as all
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