Re: 2.6.15 Hotplugging/Coldplugging via udev

2006-01-07 Thread Matthew Burgess
Dan Nicholson wrote: He sent this email [2] to the llh-announce list in November about being swamped with work, but nothing's happened since then. Any more information about this? Nope, that's the last email I've received on the subject. I didn't spot the fact that he sent it to the

Re: 2.6.15 Hotplugging/Coldplugging via udev

2006-01-07 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Matthew Burgess wrote: Dan Nicholson wrote: He sent this email [2] to the llh-announce list in November about being swamped with work, but nothing's happened since then. Any more information about this? Nope, that's the last email I've received on the subject. I didn't spot the fact that

i18n patches.

2006-01-07 Thread M.Canales.es
Hi! Starting the Spanish translation update I noticed that the i18n patches referenced in the book are yet hosted on the Alexander's home dir. For consintency, and to allow patcheslist.xsl and jhalfs do well their job, that patches must be placed into the Patches Project repository, and

Re: Jim's Udev package (part 3)

2006-01-07 Thread Richard A Downing
On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 11:22:53 -0800 Dan Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To both guys, Thanks for all the hard work on the hardware issues. I promise it is appreciated by others on the list whether they're vocal about it or not. I don't think I'm alone when I say that I'm eager to see how

Berkeley DB

2006-01-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, The new database package in the LFS SVN book is referenced as the DB package. This is incorrect and should be fixed. The package is known as, and is referenced by its maintainers as Berkeley DB. And, because this package will also have to stay in the BLFS book, and is referenced as

Re: More ICA

2006-01-07 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/7/06, Greg Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip the business Wow, that's some serious analysis, dude. It also proves that my earlier flex must be before bison is bogus. Seems that adding bison back into Ch. 5 would do the trick, but maybe there's a better solution. This has inspired me

Re: Man-DB and Berkeley DB

2006-01-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Richard A Downing wrote these words on 01/07/06 08:52 CST: Can someone point me to the discussion thread that decided this change of man package? Unfortunately, for these very reasons, there really was no discussion of putting in UTF-8 in LFS trunk, it was more of a just do it. Not that it is

Re: Man-DB and Berkeley DB

2006-01-07 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Richard A Downing wrote: Can someone point me to the discussion thread that decided this change of man package? I want to review the reasons to make my own decision on it. There was no discussion thread. All reasons are explained in my man-i18n.txt hint. I _really_ don't want to say Drop all

Re: Jim's Udev package (part 1)

2006-01-07 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Archaic wrote: I think you might be mistaking me with someone else. I don't recall using anything called nvsound. Sorry -- Alexander E. Patrakov Don't mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the server is off until 2006-01-11 Use my GMail or linuxfromscratch address instead --

Re: Berkeley DB

2006-01-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 01/07/06 08:17 CST: The new database package in the LFS SVN book is referenced as the DB package. This is incorrect and should be fixed. Thanks, Ken, for updating the BDB package. However, there are still some references of DB: the title in section 6.27.1,

Re: Man-DB and Berkeley DB

2006-01-07 Thread Bryan Kadzban
Richard A Downing wrote: Can someone point me to the discussion thread that decided this change of man package? I want to review the reasons to make my own decision on it. http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2005-December/054909.html That's not the thread that decided it, but

Re: Belgarath

2006-01-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Jeremy Huntwork wrote these words on 01/07/06 12:39 CST: I'm sure that slowed down a bunch of running cron jobs. When they finally finish, belg should hopefully recover. Does anyone periodically do system clean-up on Belg? Are there cron jobs that are set up to do automated clean-up? I

Re: Man-DB and Berkeley DB

2006-01-07 Thread Richard A Downing
On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 20:09:47 +0500 Alexander E. Patrakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard A Downing wrote: Can someone point me to the discussion thread that decided this change of man package? I want to review the reasons to make my own decision on it. There was no discussion thread.

Re: Berkeley DB

2006-01-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ken Moffat wrote these words on 01/07/06 12:56 CST: Disagree. 77.9 MiB on my first build, so yes, more than it says, but I can't get near 94 (my understanding is that we use MB as an abbreviation for MiB, I have 79804 KiB as the raw figure). Hey I was just trying to be helpful. And

Man-DB, BDB --compat-1.85

2006-01-07 Thread Richard A Downing
I noticed that this switch is in the LFS book for BerkyDB, I haven't built that for some time (when something says it needs a DB that I'm testing). Does Man-DB need this? I'm amazed if it does - the rationale for using it is that it's maintained and modern and handles all sorts of UTF-8 stuff.

Re: Man-DB, BDB --compat-1.85

2006-01-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Richard A Downing wrote these words on 01/07/06 13:26 CST: I noticed that this switch is in the LFS book for BerkyDB, I haven't built that for some time (when something says it needs a DB that I'm testing). Does Man-DB need this? I'm amazed if it does - the rationale for using it is that

Re: Man-DB, BDB --compat-1.85

2006-01-07 Thread Richard A Downing
On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 13:37:49 -0600 Randy McMurchy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard A Downing wrote these words on 01/07/06 13:26 CST: I noticed that this switch is in the LFS book for BerkyDB, I haven't built that for some time (when something says it needs a DB that I'm testing).

Re: FAQ CONFIG_DEVPTS_FS=y

2006-01-07 Thread Archaic
On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 08:55:34PM +, Richard A Downing wrote: Recent kernels don't seem to support this configuartion switch any more. Does this mean the FAQ needs adjusting? CONFIG_DEVPTS_FS=y It's there, but only if you select config for small systems or whatever it is called.

Re: Berkeley DB

2006-01-07 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, 7 Jan 2006, Randy McMurchy wrote: Ken Moffat wrote these words on 01/07/06 12:56 CST: Disagree. 77.9 MiB on my first build, so yes, more than it says, but I can't get near 94 (my understanding is that we use MB as an abbreviation for MiB, I have 79804 KiB as the raw figure). Hey

Re: Changing readjusting toolchain section

2006-01-07 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 1/7/06, Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for doing the analysis. I suspect we are probably going to move to something like Tushar's method documented towards the end of http://bugs.linuxfromscratch.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1677 I kind of like Tushar's thing, although if you have to

Re: More ICA

2006-01-07 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, 6 Jan 2006, Chris Staub wrote: Or replace creating with customizing. Thanks, done. Ken -- das eine Mal als Tragödie, das andere Mal als Farce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information

Re: More ICA

2006-01-07 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, 7 Jan 2006, Greg Schafer wrote: I've just managed to reproduce this in a DIY build by dropping M4, Bison and Flex from the temptools phase. Hmm, this is a bizarre one... check out the following.. By retaining the finished Bison build dirs from each iteration and diffing them, I was

Re: r7256 - in trunk/BOOK: chapter01 chapter06

2006-01-07 Thread Greg Schafer
Author: ken Date: 2006-01-07 15:12:20 -0700 (Sat, 07 Jan 2006) New Revision: 7256 Modified: trunk/BOOK/chapter01/changelog.xml trunk/BOOK/chapter06/chapter06.xml Log: Build mktemp earlier, for gcc's gccbug which now wraps mktemp in 'if [ yes = yes ];' instead of 'if [ no = yes

Re: r7256 - in trunk/BOOK: chapter01 chapter06

2006-01-07 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, 7 Jan 2006, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Not to mention that order changes are being done in the alphabetical branch so that we don't upset whatever we have working in trunk. Let's focus ICA's and purity on the poorly named alphabetical branch and leave trunk alone completely in this regard.

Re: r7256 - in trunk/BOOK: chapter01 chapter06

2006-01-07 Thread Greg Schafer
Ken Moffat wrote: I'm not sure I fully understand your point, you seem to be saying that gcc might be at risk from mktemp ? Sorry, I guess I wasn't quite clear. What you've done is make a build order change by inserting a questionable package smack-bang in the middle of the toolchain

Re: More ICA

2006-01-07 Thread Greg Schafer
Greg Schafer wrote: /* Define to 1 to internationalize bison runtime messages. */ -/* #undef YYENABLE_NLS */ +#define YYENABLE_NLS 1 Bingo! This looks like the culprit. snip I'll try and figure out a good fix tomorrow.. Hmmm, AFAICS there is no easy way to fool configure into doing

Re: r7256 - in trunk/BOOK: chapter01 chapter06

2006-01-07 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, 8 Jan 2006, Greg Schafer wrote: While it won't hurt in this instance, IMHO the current toolchain sequence should not be meddled with in this fashion. God only knows how many years it's taken us to get it to its current state :-) I believe it also reduces toolchain education by taking

Re: r7256 - in trunk/BOOK: chapter01 chapter06

2006-01-07 Thread Greg Schafer
Ken Moffat wrote: But certainly, you'll probably want r7257 (move grep before libtool) to fix a hardcoded '/tools' in the libtool script. Yes, this is new as of libtool-1.5.22. I only noticed this yesterday myself in my latest ICA run. The problem is triggered because the latest libtool