Re: What should I choose while installing Linux Kernel?

2011-06-26 Thread Neal Murphy
Modules are compiled separately and saved onto the hard drive, they will not be available until after the hard drive has been mounted and so if the kernel needs that module during the boot process then the kernel will panic and will not boot. Modules that have been placed into the initrd or

Re: What is 21?

2011-06-21 Thread Neal Murphy
On Tuesday 21 June 2011 09:42:10 Dominic Ringuet wrote: On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Webmaster ad...@hwlyz.tk wrote: For example: ls -l /usr/bin | more redirect_test.log 21 (BLFS 6.3 Page 37) What does 21 mean? 2 is stderr is a redirector 1 is stdout Without it, both

Re: udev168 not work with mountfs of bootscript on x86_64 system ?

2011-04-30 Thread Neal Murphy
On Saturday 30 April 2011 21:32:01 Simon Geard wrote: I'd have expected 'udevadm settle' to block while this stuff's still happening - is that not the case, maybe with 168? I'd be real surprised if settle doesn't work. They haven't removed it *that* soon, have they? (There's been talk about

Re: setclock Question (lfs-bootscripts-20110424)

2011-04-30 Thread Neal Murphy
On Saturday 30 April 2011 23:00:42 al...@verizon.net wrote: Hello, The time sequence on my standard system would be: 1. '/lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules': SUBSYSTEM==rtc, DRIVERS==rtc_cmos, SYMLINK+=rtc 2. '/etc/udev/rules.d/55-lfs.rules': # This causes the system clock to be

Re: setclock Question (lfs-bootscripts-20110424)

2011-04-29 Thread Neal Murphy
On Friday 29 April 2011 12:42:47 Andrew Benton wrote: On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 08:57:54 -0700 bsquared bwcod...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I rebooted and checked /dev/rtc is a link to /dev/rtc0 which matches kernel config. -- Thank you, -Brian On re-reading my last message wasn't

Re: setclock Question (lfs-bootscripts-20110424)

2011-04-29 Thread Neal Murphy
On Saturday 30 April 2011 01:11:01 Simon Geard wrote: Andrew's post is missing a newline, I think. It's actually two rules: SUBSYSTEM==rtc, ACTION==add, MODE=0644, RUN+=/etc/rc.d/init.d/setclock start and KERNEL==rtc, ACTION==add, MODE=0644,

Re: Slightly OT: Building with a VM

2011-04-25 Thread Neal Murphy
On Tuesday 26 April 2011 00:25:52 me,apporc wrote: Hi Is there a book or someting like which i can refer to for these knowledge about disks , images files and partitions . I don't know how to mount a partition in a image file with offset .I want to know detailed knowledge about this . I hope

Re: Slightly OT: Building with a VM

2011-04-21 Thread Neal Murphy
Bother! Clicked the wrong button! On Thursday 21 April 2011 21:12:12 Neal Murphy wrote: Suppose you have a 100MB disk image file. In parted, you can: You can make a GPT partition table: mklabel gpt mkpart boot ext2 1mb 20mb mkpart swap linux-swap 20mb 30mb mkpart root ext4 30mb 50mb

Re: Slightly OT: Building with a VM

2011-04-21 Thread Neal Murphy
On Friday 22 April 2011 00:34:42 Mike McCarty wrote: Neal Murphy wrote: Bother! Clicked the wrong button! [nice stuff snipped] I very much appreciate the suggestions for PT editors. Thanks! However, I'd like to get an answer to the question about the offsets within the file to get

Re: Incompatibility of udev and /usr

2011-04-17 Thread Neal Murphy
On Sunday 17 April 2011 01:26:59 DJ Lucas wrote: Ahh...lightbulb. This is why we currently have the udev-retry in our bootscripts. This is probably getting outside of the 'LFS Support' realm. Mayhap the next version of LFS will not need 'udev-retry' because either udev works, or the system

Re: Incompatibility of udev and /usr

2011-04-16 Thread Neal Murphy
On Saturday 16 April 2011 21:55:30 Simon Geard wrote: My understanding is that the problem isn't with the location of libraries - it's with the location of data under /usr/share. Stuff like the pci.ids and usb.ids files, which are apparently required for some of the udev rules. Those files

Re: Kernel Help Requested

2011-04-08 Thread Neal Murphy
On Friday 08 April 2011 15:44:12 Andrew Benton wrote: On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 10:09:14 -0700 bsquared bwcod...@gmail.com wrote: One would think that there would be a script that could make a config from a running system. That's an interesting idea for an open sourced project. It wouldn't

Re: Kernel Help Requested

2011-04-08 Thread Neal Murphy
On Friday 08 April 2011 19:54:08 Andrew Benton wrote: On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 16:58:26 -0400 Neal Murphy neal.p.mur...@alum.wpi.edu wrote: If the specific kernel option is enabled, one can 'zcat /proc/config.gz' to obtain the config used to build the running kernel. Yes, but it's a chicken

Re: lfslivecd

2011-03-25 Thread Neal Murphy
On Friday 25 March 2011 17:39:02 Mike McCarty wrote: Neal Murphy wrote: On Tuesday 22 March 2011 17:10:52 Mike McCarty wrote: Why do you say that? IME, most of the time is spent in the compiler, not reading the CD-ROM. It takes a few seconds to read the CD-ROM to get the compiler going

Re: lfslivecd

2011-03-22 Thread Neal Murphy
On Tuesday 22 March 2011 17:10:52 Mike McCarty wrote: Why do you say that? IME, most of the time is spent in the compiler, not reading the CD-ROM. It takes a few seconds to read the CD-ROM to get the compiler going, and then it runs. Usually, most of it gets cached. Only if you have enough

Re: Hopefully Someone Will Check and Comment on My Logic [OT Maybe?]

2011-03-13 Thread Neal Murphy
On Sunday 13 March 2011 14:12:20 Dan McGhee wrote: On 03/13/2011 01:06 PM, Dan McGhee wrote: On 03/12/2011 08:00 PM, Neal Murphy wrote: snipping OR use: [ -e file_1 ] [ ! -e file_2 ] { commands; } # equivalent: test -e $file_1 test ! -e

Re: gcc test failures

2011-03-13 Thread Neal Murphy
On Sunday 13 March 2011 15:50:43 Alex Bosworth wrote: I don't think this is a hardware problem as none of the other packages fail their tests and I don't encounter any crashes or errors during normal use. Don't be too quick to write off hardware problems. Building gcc is well known for

Re: gcc test failures

2011-03-13 Thread Neal Murphy
On Sunday 13 March 2011 23:48:52 Alex Bosworth wrote: I were making use of -j2 make option, I wonder if would make a difference if I set it to -j1 and lower the priority for make (perhaps set it to +20 ?) and see if that helps to keep the heat low !? '-j 1' will definitely make a difference,

Re: Hopefully Someone Will Check and Comment on My Logic [OT Maybe?]

2011-03-12 Thread Neal Murphy
On Saturday 12 March 2011 19:00:56 Dan McGhee wrote: # This one recovers from failed make. if [ -e $logdir/make-`echo $package`.err ] \ [ ! -e $logdir/install-`echo $package`.err ]; then #Now build removed make, make check and make install sections fi # This one recovers from a

Re: Ruminations on Udev, null and console

2011-02-23 Thread Neal Murphy
On Wednesday 23 February 2011 04:54:10 Simon Geard wrote: Are you unaware then, that udev provides the /dev/disks/by-label directory, which contains volume labels as symlinks to the kernel-named devices? For example, my fstab file doesn't reference /dev/sda6 for the /home partition - it uses

Re: Ruminations on Udev, null and console

2011-02-22 Thread Neal Murphy
On Tuesday 22 February 2011 19:44:24 al...@verizon.net wrote: Notes: 1. cp ... console /dev in 'udev' script doesn't work. (apparently, too late in the boot sequence.) 2. For reasons unknown, even if I start with the metal /dev empty, I end up with both null

Re: questions about modifying the temp tool chain

2011-01-11 Thread Neal Murphy
On Tuesday 11 January 2011 22:16:12 mike cutie and maia wrote: yes i am a blind user trying to do it its not always easy to copy from the book with a screen reader so i am throwing away this build and am going to try again and hope i have better luck this next time -Original

Re: Problem booting LFS 6.7

2011-01-09 Thread Neal Murphy
On Sunday 09 January 2011 18:52:55 Theodore Papamarkou wrote: Thank you very much! It worked for me! I've got linux from scratch installed!!! On 9 January 2011 22:07, Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: Theodore Papamarkou wrote: The problem though is that I rebooted the system

Re: Udev-165 (apparently) System Crash

2011-01-08 Thread Neal Murphy
On Saturday 08 January 2011 13:44:23 al...@verizon.net wrote: On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 02:08 AM, Simon Geard wrote: ... udevd supports a couple of options that might help, --debug and --debug-trace. 1. FWIW, udevd-165 does not (no-longer?) have a --debug-trace option. Maybe it's

Re: jhalfs unexpected

2010-12-21 Thread Neal Murphy
On Tuesday 21 December 2010 12:22:05 Mike Hollis wrote: ... but I don't know how to call this core with gdb (gdb make core ? gdb gcc core ?) and even if I did it would probably not be useful for me. gdb fail31-frag.exe core is probably what will work, ifyou can find the fail31-frag program.

Re: bzip patch problem

2010-12-12 Thread Neal Murphy
On Sunday 12 December 2010 17:03:04 Randy McMurchy wrote: robert wrote these words on 12/12/10 12:43 CST: Suddenly, I suspected that to be the problem ... maybe not. In any case, I've one terminal and only one tab ... chroot. Things seem to be going swimmingly ... until this -npl -Npl

Re: Stumbling across the finish line

2010-12-11 Thread Neal Murphy
On Sunday 12 December 2010 01:09:39 Daryl Lee wrote: Well, I did it--sort of. After wrestling GRUB to the mat, I have succeeded in booting LFS 6.7 on my laptop that is already running Windows XP and Ubuntu 10.04. There is something very satisfying about that! But there is a lingering issue.

Re: udev problem

2010-12-09 Thread Neal Murphy
On Thursday 09 December 2010 16:22:34 Stuart Stegall wrote: My M3 runs better in the cold, and that has everything to do with cold. In this case though, this is in a temperature controlled Data Center with no competition for cycles. The program actually runs during the day, but if the build

Re: make error with glibc on Fedora 14

2010-12-08 Thread Neal Murphy
On Wednesday 08 December 2010 12:19:10 Rosario Turco wrote: I have done the compilation without error with ../glibc-2.12.1/configure --prefix=/tools \ --host = $ LFS_TGT --build =$(../ glibc-2.12.1/scripts/config.guess) \ --disable-profile --enable-add-ons \ --enable-kernel = 2.6.22.5

Re: udev problem

2010-12-07 Thread Neal Murphy
On Tuesday 07 December 2010 04:55:43 robert wrote: unpacked udev-161.tar.bz2 cd udev-161 then copy and paste ... (the two dearchive operations are xvf??? and not jxvf??? 'tar xvf' unpacks a noncompressed tar archvie (.tar). 'tar xvfj' unpacks a bz2-compressed archive (.tar.bz2). 'tar xvfz'

Re: udev problem

2010-12-07 Thread Neal Murphy
On Tuesday 07 December 2010 14:53:10 Bruce Dubbs wrote: When extracting, GNU tar is smart enough to recognize the compression type, if any, without being told. This capability has been in place for several years. Learn something new every day! I've been using the specific option for so long,

Re: glibc compilation ok on Fedora 14

2010-12-05 Thread Neal Murphy
On Sunday 05 December 2010 10:55:13 Rosario Turco wrote: ../glibc-2.12.1/configure - prefix = / tools \ - Host = $ LFS_TGT - build =$(../ glibc-2.12.1/scripts/config.guess) \ - Disable-profile - enable-add-ons \ - Enable-kernel = 2.6.22.5 - with-headers = / tools / include \

Re: make mrproper

2010-11-28 Thread Neal Murphy
On Sunday 28 November 2010 12:08:15 robert wrote: ... That is the proximate end, as Aristotle might phrase it. Speaking of whom, odd that most people think of him as a genius. He believed and professed that women have fewer teeth than men. A really ignorant thing to postulate. Bordering

Re: GCC Build Instructions (was Re: Book-5.8_Adjusting the ...)

2010-10-26 Thread Neal Murphy
On Tuesday 26 October 2010 09:37:01 Randy McMurchy wrote: On 10/26/2010 7:09 AM, Brett Mahar wrote: I agree, there is no way that I could figure that out from reading the book. Then you failed to read Section 5.3 General Compilation Instructions. This has been discussed many times, and it

Re: quot;autoquot; in /etc/fstab

2010-10-11 Thread Neal Murphy
On Monday 11 October 2010 07:56:17 rhubarb...@poetworld.net wrote: --- Original Message --- From: rhubarbpie...@gmail.com[mailto:rhubarbpie...@gmail.com] Sent: 10/10/2010 11:12:48 AM To : rhubarb...@poetworld.net Cc : Subject : FW: Re: FW: Re: auto in /etc/fstab

Re: SVN 20100923 - gcc-4.5.1, pass 1, won't compile

2010-10-09 Thread Neal Murphy
On Saturday 09 October 2010 13:54:28 Andrew Benton wrote: On Sat, 9 Oct 2010 13:58:07 +0200 Felice Murolo linux...@fel.hopto.org wrote: /bin/sh - /bin/dash dash causes a variety of problems, there's a script in glibc that uses bashisms, libtool uses bashisms. Avoid the problem: ln -sf

Re: LFS Init scripts?

2010-10-01 Thread Neal Murphy
On Thursday 30 September 2010 16:32:09 Mark Knecht wrote: Am I fooling myself in thinking that for a very simple hardware system, maybe just an EXT2 boot, EXT3 / and a swap partition, that for this specific machine the init scripts might be reduced to something like 10-20 bash commands which

Re: wget list

2010-09-20 Thread Neal Murphy
On Monday 20 September 2010 19:35:29 Jonathan Arnold wrote: And darn it all, I think just like last time, I missed the link to the wget-list at then of section 3.1 :( Don't feel too badly: consistency earns extra credit. :) :) -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ:

Re: gcc compile error part 1

2010-09-18 Thread Neal Murphy
On Saturday 18 September 2010 12:53:42 Pablo Ontivero wrote: I resolve the problem, the situations is, because i don't read good, the problem is i don't put the mfpr and pmg folder into the gcc source code, i compile both separathly, so that's the problem. 40 lashes with a wet noodle. :) And

Re: LFS-svn chap 6.7 (gcc: No such file or directory)

2010-09-08 Thread Neal Murphy
On Wednesday 08 September 2010 05:56:23 Martin Zajíc wrote: I have another question about testing error. I try to make LOG with '{} 21 | tee $BUILD_DIR/LOG_$PROGRAM.log' but when I did it how can I test it for errors, becouse '$?' not working even if the script inside ending with 'exit 1'.

Re: Udev can't find my usb flash from initramfs

2010-09-03 Thread Neal Murphy
On Friday 03 September 2010 13:44:47 Thiago Padilha wrote: Hi, I have the entire LFS 6.6 inside a squashfs file. In grub I specify a small initramfs file that contains a minimal system with busybox, this small system only purpose is to mount the squashed file, and switch root to it. If the

Re: jhalfs 2.3.2

2010-08-30 Thread Neal Murphy
On Monday 30 August 2010 09:43:01 Andreas Kasenides wrote: I have been trying to build LFS 6.5 with jhalfs 2.3.2 but have found out that it fails with script 131-network. As far as I can tell this script tries to configure the network devices eth0,1... and lo (by doing a udev --test on

Re: 70-persistent-net.rules

2010-08-22 Thread Neal Murphy
On Sunday 22 August 2010 09:20:29 Mike Johnston wrote: Thank you. That would work however, I want to make 30 instances for 30 machines.  I need to generate the 70-persistent-net.rules file so each machine has fixed interface names. What I don't understand is that if its a symlink on

Re: project on distro

2010-08-07 Thread Neal Murphy
On Saturday 07 August 2010 06:43:22 Bavithra R wrote: hi friends I have an idea of doing Linux distro as my final year project. Will it be better if i start with any already installed linux OS or by using the LFS(Linux From Scratch) live cd directly? If i use any linux OS which would do

Re: Networking Is My Weakest Area--A Really Basic Question

2010-07-21 Thread Neal Murphy
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 11:46:07 Dan McGhee wrote: On 07/21/2010 09:49 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Dan McGhee wrote: On 07/19/2010 03:44 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: This is all discussed at 7.13. Configuring the network Script. A dhcp server does not interfere with a static ip address unless

Re: Networking Is My Weakest Area--A Really Basic Question

2010-07-21 Thread Neal Murphy
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 18:30:06 Timothy Rice wrote: From someone for whom the description Networking is My Weakest Area is also apt, I'd just like to say thanks to Neal and Bruce for explaining all that stuff about GATEWAY, BROADCAST and NETMASK. Very lucid and helpful. Although the

Re: SOLVED with Catch 22 [Was: Networking Is My Weakest Area--A Really Basic Question]

2010-07-21 Thread Neal Murphy
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 19:06:54 Dan McGhee wrote: Name my localhost name Destination LAN IP 192.168.1.2 (that's the address I assigned in ifconfigwlan0/ipv4) Subnet mask 255.255.255.0 (if I understood what Bruce and Neal wrote) Default Gateway 192.168.1.2 (that's me again) Interface LAN

Re: Hit a Speed Bumps with Grub 2

2010-07-20 Thread Neal Murphy
On Tuesday 20 July 2010 17:21:32 Dan McGhee wrote: Since my post of just an hour ago, my options have been reduced to one--write to the MBR. One of the files needed to make a completely independent bootable grub disk is stage2_eltorito, which is not present in /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/, or

Re: Hit a Speed Bumps with Grub 2

2010-07-20 Thread Neal Murphy
On Tuesday 20 July 2010 18:00:12 Dan McGhee wrote: If you'd allow me to rant just for a second--or longer--the documentation for grub over the years has left a little to be desired You are much too kind, sir, exhibiting a forebearance that continues to escape me. --

Re: Networking Is My Weakest Area--A Really Basic Question

2010-07-19 Thread Neal Murphy
On Monday 19 July 2010 12:01:55 Dan McGhee wrote: I've never really taken the time to sit down and learn the nits and grits' of networking. I don't have enough knowledge to even make me dangerous. Over the years I've not ever really had anything to worry about because I had a hard-wired

Re: Networking Is My Weakest Area--A Really Basic Question

2010-07-19 Thread Neal Murphy
On Monday 19 July 2010 13:33:43 Dan McGhee wrote: But, if I'm reading all this correctly, I'm not going to be able to connect to the interned until I install dhcp on my new system. Is that correct? Not exactly. You can work on a static IP address. Look on the router and determine the range

Re: /etc/limits

2010-07-15 Thread Neal Murphy
On Thursday 15 July 2010 07:38:08 Andrew Benton wrote: Hello world. I was reading today about a fork bomb http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb and running the example code :(){ :|: };: locked my system up hard. A bit more reading lead me to conclude that the simplest way to restrict the

Re: Ch. 6 GlibC Install Failure from Package Management--Which headers to use

2010-07-14 Thread Neal Murphy
On Wednesday 14 July 2010 18:07:13 Dan McGhee wrote: I hope everyone who reads this is getting a good laugh. No, just chuckling and nodding knowingly. As I hobble around on my bullet-riddled feet. Need the t-shirt? As long as *you* are laughing, all is well. --

Re: Syntax and Logic on a Build Script

2010-07-13 Thread Neal Murphy
On Tuesday 13 July 2010 20:20:56 Dan McGhee wrote: BUILD=$HOME/$package-build cd $BUILD #Double sanity check--visual and logical pwd if [ $(pwd) -ne $BUILD ] echo Check the build directory creation exit Status 1 You seem to have left out the 'then' and the

Re: Issues with second build of GCC

2010-07-11 Thread Neal Murphy
On Sunday 11 July 2010 10:21:53 littlebat wrote: On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 08:48:28 -0400 Robert Whitcomb rwhitc...@acm.org wrote: checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... /mnt/lfs/sources/gcc-build/./gcc/xgcc in Section 5.10. GCC-4.4.3 - Pass 2 of LFS BOOK 6.6, it says: CC=$LFS_TGT-gcc

Re: Issues with second build of GCC

2010-07-11 Thread Neal Murphy
On Sunday 11 July 2010 21:33:23 Robert Whitcomb wrote: Thanks very much for your help, the CC value was set wrong. But now I am running into another issue: /tools/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: crti.o: No such file: No such file or directory collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: ***

Re: Issues with second build of GCC

2010-07-11 Thread Neal Murphy
On Sunday 11 July 2010 22:05:41 littlebat wrote: On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 21:33:23 -0400 Robert Whitcomb rwhitc...@acm.org wrote: Thanks very much for your help, the CC value was set wrong. But now I am running into another issue: /tools/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: crti.o: No such file: No

Re: need an accurate answer: can we build LFS with parallel compiling?

2010-07-07 Thread Neal Murphy
On Wednesday 07 July 2010 10:53:43 littlebat wrote: On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 13:31:32 +0100 Andrew Benton b3n...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/07/10 12:10, littlebat wrote: So, I need some accurate answers: 1, Can we build LFS with parallel compiling through the book? Yes. A few packages won't

Re: LFS (Version SVN-20100529) - booting in the new system - Problem

2010-07-06 Thread Neal Murphy
On Tuesday 06 July 2010 05:32:56 Face wrote: hello all, after solving my last problem i went Through the rest of the book without any problems. However, when i try to boot to the new system nothing happen i only get this Booting from Hard Disk ... and it freeze Your main problem is these

Re: LFS (Version SVN-20100529) - booting in the new system - Problem

2010-07-06 Thread Neal Murphy
On Tuesday 06 July 2010 11:49:27 Andrew Benton wrote: On 06/07/10 16:41, Neal Murphy wrote: Your main problem is these two lines in menu.lst: set root='(hd0,1)' set root='(hd0,1)' This aspect of partition addressing is zero-based in grub. Change them to: set root='(hd0,0

Re: Boot kernal Panic :(

2010-07-05 Thread Neal Murphy
On Sunday 04 July 2010 22:58:42 Dan McGhee wrote: On 07/04/2010 09:00 PM, Neal Murphy wrote: I still have occasion to point the shotgun in pseudo-random directions and pull the trigger; eventually I hit the broad side of the barn. I have found very few people who still use this tried

Re: Boot kernal Panic :(

2010-07-05 Thread Neal Murphy
On Monday 05 July 2010 21:43:48 Saxon Landers wrote: Ok, fixed it. Setting the rootdelay to 10 gave me enough time to notice the USB was being mounted as sdb1, not sda1. a quick vim edit of the grub.cfg file ^^^ Checking file systems...[ OK]

Re: Boot kernal Panic :(

2010-07-04 Thread Neal Murphy
On Sunday 04 July 2010 03:38:39 Saxon Landers wrote: ... i am compiling onto a USB flashdrive, 4gb in size. it is mounted on the ubuntu as /dev/sdb on /mnt/lfs. ... Booting the USB works no problem, the GRUB menu comes up with the two options (LFS and LFS recovery), and when one is run, it

Re: LFS (Version SVN-20100529) - 5.9. Binutils-2.20.1 - Pass 2

2010-07-02 Thread Neal Murphy
On Friday 02 July 2010 07:53:19 Ken Moffat wrote: ... but people can make the same error each time. And that's really OK: it's a mere reflection of their computer skills and we can help them with that. But expecting different results every time is a sure sign of insanity, or so I'm told. :)

Re: Problem installing the nouveau driver

2010-07-02 Thread Neal Murphy
On Friday 02 July 2010 12:14:51 Mike McCarty wrote: Simon Geard wrote: On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 17:59 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: Apparently, it's the stated non-goal to support switching back by the authors (or at least owners) of the driver. So, unless he's willing to get the source for the

Re: LFS (Version SVN-20100529) - 5.9. Binutils-2.20.1 - Pass 2

2010-07-02 Thread Neal Murphy
On Friday 02 July 2010 15:11:31 Face wrote: well, thank you all, i will start over and see what will happen. I am using a shell script to do the book if someone could take a look at it, that would be nice . Sincerely Ah, you don't seem to have error detection in your script. After many of

Re: Help with Glib-c 2.11.1 Pass 1 (ch 5.7) in LFS 6.6

2010-06-29 Thread Neal Murphy
On Tuesday 29 June 2010 12:57:21 Mike McCarty wrote: Andrew Benton wrote: On 29/06/10 11:50, Saxon Landers wrote: Hi there, im new to the mailing list, so please correct me if i make any mistakes. I have used linux for some time, and wanted to make my own, so ive gone for LFS. I am

Re: bootloaders and USB

2010-06-28 Thread Neal Murphy
On Monday 28 June 2010 10:05:33 Eric Miller wrote: i'm trying to avoid using plop, the interface is very ugly and this is for a professional project. plop functions perfectly thoughit just looks like a video game from 1985. could I do a full boot into a small linux like tinycore and

Re: LFS 6.6 Chapter 8.1 Can't make new kernel

2010-06-24 Thread Neal Murphy
On Thursday 24 June 2010 16:25:45 Franz L. Kuhlmann wrote: ... ### I think the /bin/sh symlink is ok, (didn't try it in new shell yet - how do I do that BTW???) Both of the following commands display the symlink's target: ln -s /bin/sh readlink /bin/sh --

Re: LFS 6.6 Chapter 8.1 Can't make new kernel

2010-06-24 Thread Neal Murphy
On Thursday 24 June 2010 17:12:06 Bruce Dubbs wrote: Neal Murphy wrote: On Thursday 24 June 2010 16:25:45 Franz L. Kuhlmann wrote: ... ### I think the /bin/sh symlink is ok, (didn't try it in new shell yet - how do I do that BTW???) Both of the following commands display the symlink's

Re: A sed syntax

2010-06-23 Thread Neal Murphy
On Wednesday 23 June 2010 02:24:51 littlebat wrote: Hi, I am learning LFS BOOK: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/6.6/chapter05/adjusting.html Below is a sed syntax I can't understand and haven't found a place to learn it. code sed -e /^\*cpp:$/{n;s,$, -isystem /tools/include,}

Re: stripping down lfs

2010-06-23 Thread Neal Murphy
On Wednesday 23 June 2010 19:25:52 Eric Miller wrote: hey all...haven't been here since 2002 lolz. I'm hoping to build a stripped down LFS to use on a livecd that will do one thing only: present the user with a simple scripted text menu, and then (based on the menu input) .dd an image to a

Re: A Kernel patch overview?

2010-06-20 Thread Neal Murphy
On Sunday 20 June 2010 11:11:01 Paul Rogers wrote: Having just installed LFS-6.6 with kernel-2.6.32.7, I thought I'd look into patching it to the current patch level. OTOH, I'm on a 40Kbps dialup line and a 10MB patch-2.6.33 is big enough to: a) give me pause before attempting a few hours of

Re: urgent

2010-06-20 Thread Neal Murphy
On Sunday 20 June 2010 17:42:52 Bruce Dubbs wrote: Andrew Benton wrote: It would take hundreds of gifted people more than a decade to achieve such a thing. Or Linus about a year. I'm not sure the OP could absorb that much info that quickly. The OP needs to select his hardware, learn the

Re: Problem installing the nouveau driver

2010-06-18 Thread Neal Murphy
On Friday 18 June 2010 13:38:39 al...@verizon.net wrote: Jun 18, 2010 12:41:04 PM, Andrew Benton wrote me his comments on the subject. Hi Andy, Thanks for your message. As I told Neil below, I'm hard at work at going over some log datails, etc. now. (I was hoping against hope

Re: Problem installing the nouveau driver

2010-06-17 Thread Neal Murphy
On Thursday 17 June 2010 21:29:35 al...@verizon.net wrote: Hello, i686-pc-linux-gnu, 2.6.34, udev-156, (B)LFS NVidia GeForce 8300GS I've been trying to install/run the nouveau nouveau kernel driver, to avoid installing the NVIDIA driver after each kernel upgrade. PROBLEM: So far, if on

Re: How to skip two settings

2010-06-16 Thread Neal Murphy
On Wednesday 16 June 2010 16:23:09 Parmenides wrote: There are some excellent distro actually, but not my favourite. They will install many packages I do not need. What's more, I very like a clean and fast linux and the console mode is enough. So, I choose the LFS. Additionally, the LFS give

Re: priority in install of packages

2010-06-15 Thread Neal Murphy
On Tuesday 15 June 2010 11:47:33 Bruce Dubbs wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:14 AM, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh moh...@pahlevanzadeh.org wrote: Dear all, I'm in top of Chapter 5. Constructing a Temporary System.At this chapter some package is introduced that we must compile them.My question

Re: Linux From Scratch (Version SVN-20100529) - 6.9. Glibc-2.11.2

2010-06-12 Thread Neal Murphy
On Saturday 12 June 2010 01:12:45 Chris Staub wrote: On 06/12/2010 01:04 AM, Face Man wrote: root:/sources/glibc-build# find /tools -name 'ld*' /tools/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/bin/ld /tools/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/bin/ld-old /tools/bin/ldd /tools/bin/ld-old

Re: live and learn

2010-06-11 Thread Neal Murphy
On Friday 11 June 2010 14:16:24 Mike McCarty wrote: Hope you keep learning for a long time. Mike To misquote a fictional character, Learn long and prosper. Same thing, really. :) -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html

Re: Some LFS 6.5 - 6.6 Inconsistencies

2010-06-08 Thread Neal Murphy
That's not so easy. We create the book with Docbook xml. I don't know of a way to to do that. We do have both a change log and a What's new section. We are trying to do a new release every 6 months. If you look at What's new, almost every package changes each time, but most use the

Re: Glibc Make Error - Pass 1, Chapter 5.7, LFS Book 6.6

2010-06-08 Thread Neal Murphy
On Tuesday 08 June 2010 11:48:52 Paul Rogers wrote: mawk: scripts/gen-sorted.awk: line 19: regular expression compile failed (bad class -- [], [^] or [) /[^ mawk: scripts/gen-sorted.awk: line 19: syntax error at or near ] mawk: scripts/gen-sorted.awk: line 19: runaway regular expression

Re: HSR's

2010-06-08 Thread Neal Murphy
On Tuesday 08 June 2010 19:04:21 Paul Rogers wrote: You can minimize the interval with ln -sf bash /bin/sh. Then it stomps on the old link to dash and there's no appreciable interval when there's no /bin/sh--but it's still not to be advised when it's a shell something in your tty branch might

Re: live and learn

2010-06-08 Thread Neal Murphy
On Tuesday 08 June 2010 16:54:52 Mike McCarty wrote: piper.guy1 wrote: One more thing. Seeing that this is a very risky thing to be advising in LFS 6.6, can I suggest that the authour(s) add some caveats around this instruction? The best way to do LFS is to pretend you are the computer,

Re: live and learn

2010-06-08 Thread Neal Murphy
On Tuesday 08 June 2010 18:57:21 Bruce Dubbs wrote: Mike McCarty wrote: # cd LFS/6.3 # rm -rf build and deleted /dev from my host system! No discs, no printers, no terminals, etc. I rebooted with a Knoppix disc, let it populate /dev, and then mounted my hard drive, and copied (yes

Re: live and learn

2010-06-08 Thread Neal Murphy
On Tuesday 08 June 2010 20:05:46 Bruce Dubbs wrote: Neal Murphy wrote: I started playing with UNIX in 1986, and Linux in the mid-nineties. And just a couple weeks ago, I overwrote a disk that contained half of a couple striped MD filesystems. Lost nearly 10 years of pics and history

Re: perl, gdbm and perl's obsequious help

2010-06-03 Thread Neal Murphy
On Thursday 03 June 2010 00:30:58 Chris Staub wrote: I just built Perl in Chapter 5, and I do have gdbm installed (this is on a couple-week-old LFS svn host system). I get gdbm.h NOT found. during Configure, and it doesn't look like anything in Perl tries to link to libgdbm. Dig deep. Perl's

Re: perl, gdbm and perl's obsequious help

2010-06-03 Thread Neal Murphy
On Thursday 03 June 2010 14:45:04 Chris Staub wrote: On 06/03/2010 11:33 AM, Neal Murphy wrote: On Thursday 03 June 2010 04:08:33 Simon Geard wrote: Curious... like Chris, I routinely build LFS from a host with gdbm installed (i.e LFS itself), and never observed any problems relating

Re: LFS-6.6, Stage2, glibc, nscd.c:442

2010-06-02 Thread Neal Murphy
On Sunday 30 May 2010 12:45:54 Paul Rogers wrote: ... Yesterday I left my first few steps of Stage2 in place--their results are in the FHS, which Stage1 will ignore. I CAREFULLY backed my way to the Stage1 environment, then back through the Stage1 steps removing the packages through the

Re: LFS-6.6, Stage2, glibc, nscd.c:442

2010-06-02 Thread Neal Murphy
On Tuesday 01 June 2010 04:46:36 Simon Geard wrote: On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 09:35 -0700, Paul Rogers wrote: On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 00:36 +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: What you are overlooking is that doing it my way comes with when it breaks, I get to keep all the pieces. What a curious

perl, gdbm and perl's obsequious help

2010-06-02 Thread Neal Murphy
Some time back (LFS 6.4), I discovered that perl's configure program can poison the build; it is designed to be extremely helpful by ferreting out features of the host system to support. Specifically in my case, because it found libgdbm on the host system, it configured perl to include support

Re: perl, gdbm and perl's obsequious help

2010-06-02 Thread Neal Murphy
On Wednesday 02 June 2010 20:02:31 Bruce Dubbs wrote: Thanks for the report Neal. I wonder if the extra commands are needed now that gdbm is built in Chapter 6 before Perl. The extra options may be needed if perl is used in the build process before gdbm is built. N --

Re: LFS-6.6, Stage2, glibc, nscd.c:442

2010-06-02 Thread Neal Murphy
On Wednesday 02 June 2010 20:05:36 Paul Rogers wrote: But one *can* bellow, Where am I? And of course, one should then expect the obligatory, Yer in a boat in the midst of the sea, ya dang fool! But let's not AT ALL slight the purpose of LFS, to teach us how to build a functional

Re: chapter 6.16: configure: error: in `/sources/gcc-build/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libgcc':, ... C preprocessor /lib/cpp fails sanity check

2010-05-26 Thread Neal Murphy
On Wednesday 26 May 2010 13:19:54 Bruce Dubbs wrote: Neal Murphy wrote: On Wednesday 26 May 2010 08:33:20 linux fan wrote: On 5/26/10, Simon Geard delga...@ihug.co.nz wrote: I can't really see how things can be improved (short of blinking red text on *every* page), but it does seem like

Re: toolchain problem?

2010-05-15 Thread Neal Murphy
On Saturday 15 May 2010 14:09:45 henk.bosw...@hccnet.nl wrote: LFS 6.6 After the first pass of Binutils in chapter 5 I end up with 14 files (binaries) in /mnt/lfs/tools/bin, but they have names that include the $LFS_TGT, like this: i686-lfs-linux-gnu-addr2line i686-lfs-linux-gnu-ar