Re: [lfs-support] wifi issues

2014-05-05 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 07:40:47AM -0400, David wrote: > Yes, I had begun to suspect that enp134s0 was the wired connection.  > > For what it's worth the entry I have in /sys/class/net is enp134s0 which is a > link that points to > ../../devicespci:00:00:1c.5/:86:00.0/net/enp134s0 >

Re: [lfs-support] gcc 4.9.0 - update 2

2014-05-05 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 08:41:40PM +0200, Frans de Boer wrote: > > @Bruce, so maybe it is timing. Maybe it is timing combined with the type of > processor. You use a i7 and I use an AMD Phenom II 965. Your SBU's are also > about 60% compared to my machine. > Interesting. My phenom is still usin

[lfs-support] Backups. was Re: gcc 4.9.0 - update 2

2014-05-05 Thread Ken Moffat
Probably, more than anyone ever wanted to know - On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 03:51:34PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > >> > > Interesting. My phenom is still using gcc-4.8 (I bought it for > >building development versions of the books, but it is running out

Re: [lfs-support] wifi issues

2014-05-05 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 04:53:15PM -0400, David wrote: > I was able to get the pci tools installed and lspci tells me I have > "Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN [Shiloh] Network Connection"  which > is more information than I had before. > > I presume now that I have to rebuild the kernel

Re: [lfs-support] Step 5.11 Tcl-8.6.1 (7.5 stable) building errors

2014-05-19 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 05:33:28AM -0400, Marcos Menendez wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to install LFS based on 7.5 stable on a CentOS 6.5 x86_64. > > > Actually I'm facing problems in step 5.11 Tcl-8.6.1 > > My question is if I have to unset the variables used from the previous step > for GC

Re: [lfs-support] iso8859-15 spanish accented characters in lfs-7.5

2014-05-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:17:39AM +0100, ortenzia konyha wrote: > Dear LFS support, > how does it work the script /etc/rc.d/init.d/console in lfs-bootscript? > how does the variable $KEYMAP pass the argument to loadkeys? > > My LFS is LFS stable 7.5 > I am working without X, only in console. > M

Re: [lfs-support] iso8859-15 spanish accented characters in lfs-7.5

2014-05-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 03:42:21PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:17:39AM +0100, ortenzia konyha wrote: > > Dear LFS support, > > how does it work the script /etc/rc.d/init.d/console in lfs-bootscript? > > how does the variable $KEYMAP pass the

Re: [lfs-support] How can I not recive this mail

2014-05-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 07:17:17AM +0800, 277360123 wrote: > -- 原始邮件 -- > 发件人: "ALZ (phyglos.org)" ; > 发送时间: 2014年5月21日(星期三) 4:11 > 收件人: "LFS Support List" ; > 主题: Re: [lfs-support] iso8859-15 spanish accented characters in lfs-7.5 > Try unsubscribing like it says

Re: [lfs-support] iso8859-15 spanish accented characters in lfs-7.5

2014-05-21 Thread Ken Moffat
O Wed, May 21, 2014 at 02:13:41PM +0100, ortenzia konyha wrote: > > the problem is with the KEYMAP > at boot time LFS system reads a script called /etc/rc.d/rcS.d/S70console > which looks the parameter KEYMAP passed in the file in /etc/sysconfig/console > My /etc/sysconfig/console passes the par

Re: [lfs-support] iso8859-15 spanish accented characters in lfs-7.5

2014-05-21 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 07:16:51PM +0100, ortenzia konyha wrote: > Dear Mr: Moffat, Less formality, please. "Ken" is fine, so is just replying without any greeting - that is what I normally do on the lists. > I think point 9 below is the root cause. > > 8) > If you still cannot see the letter

Re: [lfs-support] iso8859-15 spanish accented characters in lfs-7.5

2014-05-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 01:39:40PM +0200, ALZ (phyglos.org) wrote: > On 05/21/2014 11:57 AM, ortenzia konyha wrote: > >Dear ALZ > >your settings fro /etc/sysconfig/console > ># Begin > > /etc/sysconfig/console > > > > KEYMAP="es" > > KEYMAP_CORRECTIONS="euro2" > > FONT="lat0-16 -m 8859-15" > >

Re: [lfs-support] iso8859-15 spanish accented characters in lfs-7.5

2014-05-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 04:18:58PM +0200, ALZ (phyglos.org) wrote: > On 05/24/2014 03:58 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > >If you can put a few echo statements in /etc/init.d/console and see > >where there is a problem, I can update the script. > > > > -- Bruce > > Thanks Bruce. After some troublesho

Re: [lfs-support] LFS 6.3 questions

2014-06-06 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 08:38:54AM -0400, wayne wrote: > Hello, >I have a problem with my host system which is Linuxmint 11. It does not > have Bison v2.4.1-1, or Gcc v5.2-8. How do I cope with this? My OS is past > the "end of life." > For gcc, I am confused about which version you were loo

Re: [lfs-support] KDE Question - akonadiserver always at 100%

2014-06-09 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 01:50:07PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I just finished doing an install of KDE-4.13.1. It starts fine and I don't > really notice any interface issues (other than the designed ones :). > > However, I do notice in top: > > PID USER VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+

Re: [lfs-support] KDE Question - akonadiserver always at 100%

2014-06-09 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 04:01:35PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > > Is this a kde upgrade or a new install ? For a new install I would > >be tempted to leave it for a few hours, to see if it completes. If > >it does, I would monitor it for a few day

Re: [lfs-support] Need help regarding eth0 not found and key board mis behaving

2014-06-10 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 01:47:40PM +0530, BSV Ramesh wrote: > > and another is with keyboard , (for example if i type X it prints Y , if > i press Up arrow it prints " - " .. ). > This is LFS-7.5 ? If so, setting up the keyboard is covered in section 7.10, Configuring the Linux Consol

Re: [lfs-support] Final Prep Item for LFS-7.5--kernel rebuild

2014-06-14 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 09:57:27PM -0500, Dan McGhee wrote: > > Here is the result of : > > >CONFIG_BROKEN_ON_SMP=y > >CONFIG_GENERIC_SMP_IDLE_THREAD=y > ># CONFIG_SMP is not set > >CONFIG_HAVE_TEXT_POKE_SMP=y > >CONFIG_SCSI_SAS_HOST_SMP=y > > AFAIK I need only set CONFIG_SMP and I will enable

Re: [lfs-support] failing to configure Texinfo package

2014-06-14 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 06:38:18PM +0200, Stefano Stoduto wrote: > Hi, I'm trying to follow the lfs book for the first time and I'm having > some issues during the configure phase of the Texinfo package. > > I looked in the mailing list archive, and the very same problem has been > reported here:

Re: [lfs-support] failing to configure Texinfo package

2014-06-14 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 11:55:59PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: > On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 06:38:18PM +0200, Stefano Stoduto wrote: > > Hi, I'm trying to follow the lfs book for the first time and I'm having > > some issues during the configure phase of the Texinfo package.

Re: [lfs-support] failing to configure Texinfo package

2014-06-15 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 10:41:32PM +0200, Stefano Stoduto wrote: > The output for those commands is: > > type -pa perl > > /usr/bin/perl > _Now_, in chapter 5, you are using the _host_ system's perl, which meets all the requirements. And so, you ought to be able to "successfully" configure te

Re: [lfs-support] Discovered a Major System "OOOPS" in Binutils Pass 1

2014-06-15 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 04:46:02PM -0500, Dan McGhee wrote: > If it's what I think it is, it's more than an "OOOPS" for me, but I'm trying > to be socially acceptable. This is a little long and involved. > > Configure failed on binutils-2.24 with what turned out to be > > > > gcc: error while l

Re: [lfs-support] Multiple CPU cores, Make and Parallel Builds

2014-06-15 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 09:10:12AM -0500, William Harrington wrote: > > Also, you should consider using number of processors with +1. > Also, some build systems will fail to complete with even number of jobs. (In > the past CD Paranoia would fail to build in such an instance and the > Makefile wou

Re: [lfs-support] Multiple CPU cores, Make and Parallel Builds

2014-06-15 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 11:34:05AM -0400, Baho Utot wrote: > On Sunday, June 15, 2014 03:58:44 PM Pierre Labastie wrote: > > Le 15/06/2014 14:52, Dan McGhee a écrit : > > > I know--this is the way LFS is wired--to follow the book precisely. Then > > > all should be well. If, however, I have a make

Re: [lfs-support] Multiple CPU cores, Make and Parallel Builds

2014-06-15 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 10:05:48PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Dan McGhee wrote: > > > >This concept and "-j" have now become important to me and I'd like to > >learn some more before I start. > > man make > > https://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/html_node/Parallel.html#Parallel > I'm going

Re: [lfs-support] Step 6.52 Kmod-16 LFS 7.5 stable --> make check failed for test-modprobe

2014-06-16 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 03:07:33PM +0200, Marcos Menendez wrote: > Hello, > > I had the following failure when running the make check for kmod-16: > > > root:/sources/kmod-16# cat test-suite.log > === >kmod 16: ./test-suite.log > ===

Re: [lfs-support] failing to configure Texinfo package

2014-06-16 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:03:52AM +0200, Stefano Stoduto wrote: > > You're right, my fault. I forgot to log in as lfs user before run those > commands. > The correct output is: > > type -pa perl > > /tools/bin/perl > /usr/bin/perl > ok > --- > > perl -e "use 5.007_003; use Encode;" ; echo $?

Re: [lfs-support] failing to configure Texinfo package

2014-06-16 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 09:22:30PM +0200, Stefano Stoduto wrote: > On 16 June 2014 16:49, Ken Moffat wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:03:52AM +0200, Stefano Stoduto wrote: > > > > It looks as if @INC is the problem. I don't have a version of > > /tool

Re: [lfs-support] failing to configure Texinfo package

2014-06-16 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 01:05:45AM +0200, Stefano Stoduto wrote: > On 16 June 2014 22:56, Ken Moffat wrote: > > > > (a) you did not key the command in full, or mistyped the -Dprefix > > part. If you have still have the command in the LFS user's history, > > yo

Re: [lfs-support] Step 6.52 Kmod-16 LFS 7.5 stable --> make check failed for test-modprobe

2014-06-17 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 10:12:30AM +0200, Marcos Menendez wrote: > Hello, > > I remember to have done that step clearly but I have a look at it again: > Please do not top post, unless you have to - it makes understanding your reply very hard. [ snip what is in /lib ] > > > Regarding libz.so, I

Re: [lfs-support] Step 6.52 Kmod-16 LFS 7.5 stable --> make check failed for test-modprobe

2014-06-18 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 10:09:12AM +0200, Marcos Menendez wrote: > Hello, > > Sorry for the top post before. > But you are still doing it. > One question before we continue: What did you mean with a "run once command"? > A command which you can only run one time. In this case, it uses the r

Re: [lfs-support] Vim-7.4 Fails to Configure at the end of Ch. 5

2014-06-22 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 04:27:16PM -0500, Dan McGhee wrote: > In building LFS-7.5 and as is my habit, I was trying to install Vim-7.4 into > /tools before I started Ch. 6. I did this at the same point last year when > I built LFS-7.4, and all went well. I like having vim available right at > the

Re: [lfs-support] Vim-7.4 Fails to Configure at the end of Ch. 5

2014-06-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 11:10:30AM -0500, Dan McGhee wrote: > On 06/22/2014 05:50 PM, Ken Moffat wrote: > >On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 04:27:16PM -0500, Dan McGhee wrote: > >>In building LFS-7.5 and as is my habit, I was trying to install Vim-7.4 into > >>/tools before I st

Re: [lfs-support] Vim-7.4 Fails to Configure at the end of Ch. 5

2014-06-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 07:56:42PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: > > try > > echo "INPUT(-lncursesw)" >/tools/lib/libncurses.so > > We do the equivalent in chapter 6. > Baho's configure switches look nicer than my suggestion. ĸen -- Nanny Ogg usually went

Re: [lfs-support] Checking Understanding of Native Language Support

2014-06-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 11:10:39AM -0500, Dan McGhee wrote: > I want to verify my understanding of Native Language Support. > > If I build a package and use either --disable-nls or --without-nls, > whichever is appropriate, in the configure phase, then the package installs > in the language corres

Re: [lfs-support] Checking Understanding of Native Language Support

2014-06-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 11:40:28AM -0500, Dan McGhee wrote: > On 06/24/2014 11:27 AM, Ken Moffat wrote: > >On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 11:10:39AM -0500, Dan McGhee wrote: > >>I want to verify my understanding of Native Language Support. > >> > >>If I build a pac

Re: [lfs-support] some preliminary comments and a stopping point

2014-06-28 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 07:33:30PM -0700, logical american wrote: > To all: > > Here are some things I noticed while currently following v7.5 of the LFS > book > > 1. In the Chapter 3.1 Introduction for creating the LFS partition, I > actually > was able to successfully do this as an original lo

Re: [lfs-support] Step 8.3 Linux-3.13.3 - 7.5 stable --> LANG= variable value

2014-06-30 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 04:10:25PM +0200, Marcos Menendez wrote: > Hello, > > Before I start with the kernel compilation I would like someone to clarify me > some things. > > At step > > make LANG= LC_ALL= menuconfig > > the book says > > > "This establishes the locale setting to the

Re: [lfs-support] comments during LFS 7.5 install and a final question

2014-06-30 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 04:45:16PM -0700, logical american wrote: > Some comments while creating the LFS 7.5 system on an openSuse v13.1 > platform, I hope > they might be usable to others. > > 1 In the section Host System Requirements - > > The openSuse v13.1 zypper command enables program ver

Re: [lfs-support] Adding a splash/boot screen for grub2

2014-07-15 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 10:59:24AM +0200, Marcos Menendez wrote: > Hello, > > After having finished my LFS I'm having some problems trying to accomplish > something that I thought it was easy: > A boot screen. > > I have read the following hints but they are out-of-date: > > http://www.linuxfro

Re: [lfs-support] Adding a splash/boot screen for grub2

2014-07-15 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 11:14:25AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > I forget how to get unifont.pf2, but the image is > > Targa image data - RGB - RLE 1024 x 768 > > > You can create that with gimp. > > -- Bruce Those got mentioned in a reference I found this morning, probably for linux mint :

Re: [lfs-support] Adding a splash/boot screen for grub2

2014-07-15 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 06:54:46PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: > > It looks as if grub probably understands png and tga formats for > the pictures. > But on reading more closely, perhaps png does not work. ĸen -- Nanny Ogg usually went to bed early. After all, she was an old lady. S

Re: [lfs-support] LFS 7.5 Chaper 4.4 setting up the environment

2014-07-16 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 05:30:05PM +, Michael Bradshaw wrote: > im still having the same problem: > > lfs@AOTdevcom ~ $ cat > ~/.bash_profile << "EOF" > > exec env -i HOME=$HOME TERM=$TERM PS1='\u:\w\$ ' /bin/bash > > EOF > lfs@AOTdevcom ~ $ cat > ~/.bashrc << "EOF" > > set +h > > umask 022 >

Re: [lfs-support] Errors in rebooting the completed system

2014-07-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 10:07:22PM +0200, a...@phyglos.org wrote: > > In this case, "msdos" is the type, or class, of your disk partitions. > > I don't see why you look for the linux kernel in partition 6 (msdos6) and > set then your root filesystem in sda2. Maybe you are using logical > partitio

Re: [lfs-support] Linux kernel ATI Radeon configuration

2014-07-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 07:16:10AM -0500, Douglas R. Reno wrote: > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Douglas R. Reno > wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > I have installed LFS on my Toshiba Satellite C655D-S5529. I was using > > kernel version 3.8.1 for a week because that is all I had at the time. W

Re: [lfs-support] Linux kernel ATI Radeon configuration

2014-07-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 08:38:49PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: > > The delay of 60 seconds suggests that firmware is NOT being loaded > (it is a timeout). I'm not up to speed with udev (systemd) changes > re userspace firmware loaders - I know there was a change in 3.16-rc >

Re: [lfs-support] Linux kernel ATI Radeon configuration

2014-07-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 05:13:23PM -0500, Douglas R. Reno wrote: > Ken, > > Right before the 60 second delay I get a error regarding "firmware direct > load failed with error code -2". Could this be why my penguins aren't > showing up? And for the penguins, do I have to enable the ATI Radeon optio

Re: [lfs-support] LFS-7.5 Fails to Start after BIOS and Windows Update [SOLVED]

2014-08-17 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 05:10:03PM -0500, Dan McGhee wrote: > On 08/16/2014 06:49 AM, Richard Melville wrote: > > > >I don't think it's a kernel issue. I'd check your disk assignment/UUIDs > >in the BIOS and grub to make sure the correct partitions are being called. > >Of course, I could be wrong.

Re: [lfs-support] 6.40 automake

2014-08-20 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 02:56:27PM -0500, Douglas R. Reno wrote: > I was thinking uneXpected passes (for tests that were not supposed to pass > but did. EXpected FAILures that passed rather than failed) that is just > what I think it is though. I am not entirely sure. > > Douglas R. Reno One of

Re: [lfs-support] Booting my LFS for the first time

2014-08-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 03:15:46PM +0200, Ronnie van Aarle wrote: > One last thing, there is no need to change your kernel modules from linked > to builtin. They are stored in /boot/modules and if you see the four > penquins, this means grub is setup right and your system has acces to that > path.

Re: [lfs-support] version 7.5 5.20 file-5.17 make problem, libz.so.1 Solved

2014-08-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 10:02:07AM -0400, Jean-Marc Pigeon wrote: > I follow the book at my best, but: > - Working within VPS (openvz) > - x86_64 > - doing all the jobs via RPM (binutils.spec, gcc.spec > and so on) within a Makefile. > I will suggest that trying to use RPM while you are learning

Re: [lfs-support] Booting my LFS for the first time

2014-08-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 06:19:07PM +0200, Ronnie van Aarle wrote: > I just googled grub configuration to make sure. > For the last time, please do NOT top post on this list. > Unless you explicitly embed the grub menu configuration options in the grub > image, grub loads its configuration file

Re: [lfs-support] mount -o noatime ?

2014-08-31 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 11:05:07PM +0200, Emanuele Rusconi wrote: > On 31 August 2014 22:49, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > > > The next time I build the book. I'll try with noatime and see if I can tell > > any performance differences. > > noatime is suggested when working with audio (see > http://wiki.

Re: [lfs-support] differences between en_US, en_US.iso88591, and en_US.utf8

2014-08-31 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 07:11:09PM -0700, Michael Havens wrote: > Hola! I am in section 7.13 and am now attempting to figure out my locale. I > live in the United States and speak English well not British English, > but anyways! So I run 'locale -a' and get this list: I am told the first > two

Re: [lfs-support] differences between en_US, en_US.iso88591, and en_US.utf8

2014-09-01 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 10:03:47PM -0700, Michael Havens wrote: > It used to be. For modern glibc, I have no idea. Why not just use > > > the extra six characters and specify en_US.UTF-8 ? > > > > en_US.UTF-8? Really? I was thinking the right thing to do was to use > en_US.iso88591 because en_

Re: [lfs-support] differences between en_US, en_US.iso88591, and en_US.utf8

2014-09-01 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Sep 01, 2014 at 11:45:06AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > Simon has some legitimate comments, but I don't use any setting for > locale/LANG. In my case, the man pages don't work properly: > > LANG=en_US.UTF-8 man man > > gives me things like: > > The manual page associated with each of

Re: [lfs-support] section 9.3

2014-09-06 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Sep 06, 2014 at 03:01:30PM -0700, Michael Havens wrote: > :-)~MIKE~(-: > Huh ? You are sending text-plain and html, but AFAICS neither of them contains anything except: · your MIKE identification · the mail you were replying to, including the imprecation not to top-post So to me, yo

Re: [lfs-support] section 9.3

2014-09-07 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Sep 07, 2014 at 02:17:08PM -0700, Michael Havens wrote: > > all fixed. except GPM says to run some commands as root which implies I > should not be building as root. What user should I be building as? > > :-)~MIKE~(-: Before you boot the new system, I don't think you have much choice. A

Re: [lfs-support] section 9.3

2014-09-08 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 03:15:53PM -0700, Michael Havens wrote: > Before BLFS. > I'm installing gpm and these are the errors make and make install gives me. > Now it seems that (after googling 'fatal error: gpm.h: No such file or > directory') that there is no problem but I need to verify this. Upo

Re: [lfs-support] all done

2014-09-09 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 06:35:41PM -0700, Michael Havens wrote: > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Michael Havens wrote: > > > > > okay I got the GUI computer going again. So I type in: > > > >pico /boot/grub/grub.cfg > > > > and the very first lines say: > > > ># > ># DO NOT EDIT

Re: [lfs-support] all done

2014-09-10 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 09:00:13PM -0700, Michael Havens wrote: > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 7:43 PM, Ken Moffat wrote: > > > Don't believe it ;-) Actually, chmod +w probably helps. > > > did you want me to add the write bit to my lfs? > > > vim /

Re: [lfs-support] all done

2014-09-10 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 01:12:27PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > > The error is in grub.cfg - I suspect you have not copied the lfs > >kernel to the debian /boot partition. So, if the lfs kernel is on > >sda6 along with the lfs system, try >

Re: [lfs-support] all done

2014-09-10 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:15:07AM -0700, Michael Havens wrote: > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Ken Moffat wrote: > > > > > The error is in grub.cfg - I suspect you have not copied the lfs > > kernel to the debian /boot partition. So, if the lfs kernel is on >

Re: [lfs-support] UDEV-208 Fails to Compile in LFS-7.5

2014-09-13 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 06:35:12PM -0500, Dan McGhee wrote: > I am sorry to ask a question like this when most of you are working hard to > release 7.6. I'm pushing to finish 7.5 to make sure my scripts all work and > to "play" with GRUB for UEFI. For that, when you get there, you might want to

Re: [lfs-support] In Systemd Version 7.6-systemd-rc2 Networking Not Working

2014-09-14 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 06:10:08PM -0400, Alan Feuerbacher wrote: > > Hmm. Up to this point I've done most BLFS stuff on the host system, because > I found several years ago that it was much easier having all the tools > available that are not yet installed on the target system. > > What are the

Re: [lfs-support] make[2]: *** [magic.mgc] Segamentation fault (core dumped)

2014-09-16 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 09:31:10AM +0800, Jeffrey Toseng wrote: > On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 5:06 AM, Pierre Labastie > wrote: > > > Back to your problem... > > No problem with version-check.sh? > > > Thanks Pierre for your advice. > > No version-check.sh script found searching from root folder of

Re: [lfs-support] Error building binutils-pass2

2014-09-18 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:00:08PM +0200, hans kaper wrote: > Whether I try to build LFS 7.5 or a recent SVN, whether I use LFS 7.4 or Mint > 13 as host, whether I use a laptop or a desktop, I always get the same error > in building binutils-pass2: > > checking for C compiler default output file

Re: [lfs-support] Why not always use a longterm support kernel?

2014-09-28 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 01:35:53PM -0500, William Harrington wrote: > > I guess since 2.6 it did change from how it was before then, since new > feature development now takes place in the same revision number. > Yes, 2.5 was very unpleasant. The "rule" now is "no regressions" - obviously, ther

[lfs-support] Bash-4.2 (for older systems)

2014-09-29 Thread Ken Moffat
For anybody still running bash-4.2, and who does not wish to update to 4.3 (which apparently needs current readline - Fernando reported that broke apps linked agaisnt readline, such as fcron, until they were recompiled) I've now uploaded bash-4.2-fixes-13 to patches. This contains everything whi

Re: [lfs-support] LFS 7.6: Failure at 6.9. Glibc-2.20

2014-09-29 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 09:26:47PM +, Andrew Woodward wrote: > Hello, > > First time attempting LFS. > > I've got as far as Chapter 6, section 6.9 Glibc-2.20. I'm getting the > following errors: > > FAIL: math/test-ildoubl > FAIL: math/test-ldouble > FAIL: posix/tst-getaddrinfo4 > Summary o

Re: [lfs-support] Bash-4.2 (for older systems)

2014-09-30 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 02:38:14PM +0200, loki wrote: > On Tue, 2014-09-30 at 08:00 -0300, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: > > > On 30-09-2014 04:10, loki wrote: > > > On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 21:58 +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: > > > > > >> For anybody still running

Re: [lfs-support] Can someone please enlarge on this explanation?

2014-09-30 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 02:09:41PM +0100, Hazel Russman wrote: > > I don't have the logs anymore because I always remove my build directories > immediately after installing. But I've just diffed the two compiled libraries > and they're identical! > Logs can be useful things - sometimes, a pack

Re: [lfs-support] Compile error in LFS 7.6: cross GCC - chapter 5.5.1

2014-10-04 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Oct 05, 2014 at 12:14:59AM +0300, Andrei Banu wrote: > Hi, > > I am attempting LFS version 7.6 but I got stuck on chapter > 5.5.1 (cross GCC compile). > > The host is CentOS 6.5 / 64bit: > Linux 2.6.32-431.el6.x86_64 #1 SMP > > The /configure worked ok. The error came during make. > g

Re: [lfs-support] Compile error in LFS 7.6: cross GCC - chapter 5.5.1

2014-10-04 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Oct 05, 2014 at 01:17:53AM +0300, Andrei Banu wrote: > Hi, > > The missing g++ was the problem. But I don't understand how was I able > to compile binutils without a working compiler? Anyway, I installed a > gcc-c++ > and now it's working. > > Thanks a lot! > > Kind regards! You had a

Re: [lfs-support] Where to find the newlib source when compiling GCC pass 1?

2014-10-08 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 11:23:15PM +0200, Christer Solskogen wrote: > On 06.10.2014 13:06, Pierre Labastie wrote: > > >Since we do not want libgcc2 to containing any code which requires libc > >support, we pass --with-newlib --without-headers (equivalent to > >--with-headers=no). And this is neede

Re: [lfs-support] 64-bit Blues

2014-10-14 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 01:51:28AM +0800, Роберт Киммель wrote: > > On 15/10/14 0:54, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > No. There is no arch/x86_64 directory, even on a 64-bit system in the > > standard LFS build. Also, if it were the problem, you wouldn't have > > gotten far enough to to get it to search

Re: [lfs-support] LFS 7.6 binutils pass1 ; configure issue

2014-10-22 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 09:45:49PM +0200, Denis Mugnier wrote: > Hi, > > A french user tells us on the frecnh lfs forum that he has an issue with the > configure script of binutils (step 5.4). > We don't find the solution, so I post here ;o)) > > The configure stop with the error : > > |gcc: er

Re: [lfs-support] UEFI and GPT Structure

2014-10-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 06:08:56PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Dan McGhee wrote: > >I started this thread so that I wouldn’t hijack my own over on -dev. > > > > “...set up a new system based on UEFI and GPT. Our new system will dual > boot: it will work with both UEFI and BIOS firmware. “ The disk

Re: [lfs-support] Booting LFS

2014-10-27 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 09:47:32PM -0400, Patrick Kennedy wrote: > I was finally able to boot up my new LFS 7.6 creation today. :-) > > It seems eth0 might work. However, I don't see a "route" command. Nor do > I see a "dhclient" command. > > What is the basic way you initialize the NIC card?

Re: [lfs-support] dns settings in the static configuration

2014-11-01 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Nov 01, 2014 at 04:55:18PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Alexey Orishko wrote: > >On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >>How would someone dynamically create resolv.conf without some daemon like > >>dhcpcd? > > > >If DNS servers are stated in ifconfig.eth0, why can't ipv4-sta

Re: [lfs-support] LFS 7.6 boots read only

2014-11-04 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 11:30:04AM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Anthony Price wrote: > > >cat /etc/lfs-release shows 7.6 > > > >findmnt gives the error message can't read /proc/mounts > > Hmm. /proc is not mounted. That happens in the very first boot script. > > >I wonder if it would be useful

Re: [lfs-support] LFS 7.6 boots read only

2014-11-05 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 08:52:57AM +, Anthony Price wrote: > On 04/11/14 18:04, Ken Moffat wrote: > >On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 11:30:04AM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >>Anthony Price wrote: > >> > >>>cat /etc/lfs-release shows 7.6 > >>> > >

Re: [lfs-support] [blfs-support] Yet another LibreOffice post

2014-11-05 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 08:44:44PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > alex lupu wrote: > >HI Bruce, > > > >On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > I have not, so far, seen alex's latest post, only this reply, but I am fairly sure that is what often happens when personal replies are also

Re: [lfs-support] HW issues

2014-11-08 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 02:16:05AM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > Just for discussion, here is the dmesg log from my experiment with > CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G. I also tried to set mem=4G on the kernel command line, > but that did not seem to have any effect. > > http://anduin.linux

Re: [lfs-support] HW issues

2014-11-08 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 03:39:23PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > Yes, I tried memtest and it only recognized 3.1G. > In that case, it is not a kernel problem. I can remember some of my whatever-was-cheap hardware over the years : many motherboards were definite

Re: [lfs-support] HW issues

2014-11-08 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 07:29:09PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > >On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 03:39:23PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >>Ken Moffat wrote: > >> > >>Yes, I tried memtest and it only recognized 3.1G. > >> > > > >

Re: [lfs-support] HW issues

2014-11-09 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 06:59:42AM -0300, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: > On 09-11-2014 00:50, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > Ken Moffat wrote: > > > >> Might be the jpeg symlinks! > >> > > > > What I have right now is: > > > > 1536932 Jul

Re: [lfs-support] LFS-7.2, Ch6.17, gcc-4.7.1 test failures

2014-11-22 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 12:20:33PM -0800, Paul Rogers wrote: > I changed the subject line as requested. > > > > For one failure, I'd ignore it and continue. > > > > I notice your test cases were build for x86_64, mine for i686. As I > said, I did a C&P into a wrapper script, but my error causes t

Re: [lfs-support] LFS-7.2, Ch6.17, gcc-4.7.1 test failures

2014-11-22 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 05:00:20PM -0800, Paul Rogers wrote: > Allow me to address your last point first, the scripts that I make/use: > [...] > As I mentioned initially, this is my fifth LFS build, these scripts have > been used many times, just minor mods as are in the book, version to > version

Re: [lfs-support] LFS-7.2, Ch6.17, gcc-4.7.1 test failures

2014-11-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 11:55:50PM -0800, Paul Rogers wrote: > > I want the binaries to be built to run on lesser hardware than what I > build on, of course, and some configures in the past have taken their > -march from the hardware I build on. I don't want that to be a > requirement! Consequen

Re: [lfs-support] LFS-7.2, Ch6.17, gcc-4.7.1 test failures

2014-11-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 12:43:05PM -0800, Paul Rogers wrote: > > From: Ken Moffat > > > > OK, I was just pointing out that we cannot know what is in your > > Yes, I don't post them only because I don't want to waste your time > trying to understand them.

Re: [lfs-support] LFS-7.2, Ch6.17, gcc-4.7.1 test failures

2014-11-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 04:05:15PM -0800, Paul Rogers wrote: > > I can diddle the make check sequence so it doesn't drop out easily > enough ("make -k check || :"), but I regard that as a very bad habit to > adopt! The book says running the tests and generally good results is > critical. > Emph

Re: [lfs-support] LFS 20141104-systemd

2014-11-30 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 10:14:34PM +0100, Dr.-Ing. Edgar Alwers wrote: > I personally dont understand why "systemd flame wars" happened. > With many thanks to _all_ developers, That is no reason to try to start another systemd flame war ;-) Use whatever you wish, but do not force it on the res

Re: [lfs-support] "Waking up in a different bed"

2014-12-02 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 10:44:19AM -0800, Paul Rogers wrote: > For the most part my attitude about the complexities of udev rules has > been: "As long as it boots and stuff is there, let sleeping dogs lie." > > As I was building 7.2 the box started throwing machine checks! I like > to use HDD ada

Re: [lfs-support] Marching from LFS-7.2 through BLFS

2014-12-13 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 09:17:12AM -0800, Paul Rogers wrote: > Four previous LFS builds isn't a enough to make a trend, but in the past > I've generally found it desireable to patch the kernel from the version > in LFS, so I try to do that before building stuff in BLFS. Sometimes > that's been for

Re: [lfs-support] Marching from LFS-7.2 through BLFS

2014-12-13 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 10:27:47AM -0800, Paul Rogers wrote: > Sorry, Ken, I got a version of the BLFS book that was contemporaneous > with LFS-7.2, "Version 2012-11-02". It always seems to say: "This > package is known to build and work properly using an LFS-7.2 platform." > 8-) Well in that ca

Re: [lfs-support] Marching from LFS-7.2 through BLFS

2014-12-13 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 05:05:37PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > >On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 10:27:47AM -0800, Paul Rogers wrote: > >>Sorry, Ken, I got a version of the BLFS book that was contemporaneous > >>with LFS-7.2, "Version 2012-11-02&

Re: [lfs-support] login as root or lfs to begin

2014-12-14 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 08:33:09PM +, openstud...@kewla.com wrote: > lfs:/mnt/lfs/sources$ ls -l $LFS/sources > total 330724 > -rw--- 1 root root 238860 Dec 15 01:45 XML-Parser-2.42_01.tar.gz > -rw--- 1 root root 386604 Dec 15 01:45 acl-2.2.52.src.tar.gz > -rw--- 1 root roo

Re: [lfs-support] Grub query

2014-12-19 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 06:22:03PM +, spiky wrote: > > On 12/19/14 18:12, Cliff McDiarmid wrote: > >Hi > >Just installed a new LFS with systemd. I've created a partition for the > >boot dir. for Grub. I have a question about booting other LFSs using this > >method. > >The instructions say: '

Re: [lfs-support] Kernel choices

2015-01-04 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Jan 04, 2015 at 10:18:10AM -0800, Paul Rogers wrote: > So, my LFS-7.2 install is complete, and apparently functional. Last > month I asked about updating the kernel in the LFS-7.2 I've been > building. Ken suggested going fro the 3.5.2 up to 3.14. I decided to > make that in two jumps, s

Re: [lfs-support] Kernel choices

2015-01-04 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Jan 04, 2015 at 11:41:34AM -0800, Paul Rogers wrote: > > > >The best starting place for the kernel is 'make defconfig'. 'make > >help' gives a lot of other options. Generally the help page for each > >option gives a reasonable summary, but takes a long time to go through > >everything. >

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