Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2016-12-15 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 12:19:54PM +0100, Cor Nouws wrote: > Michael Meeks wrote on 08-12-16 17:56: > > + Mail merge regressions: http://tdf.io/mmregressions > > + 4 open; 4 open last meeting (2 OSX, 1 Linux, 1 generic but hard > > repro) > > => drop from the QA s

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-01-13 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 04:41:44PM +0100, Alexander Thurgood wrote: > So, dropping make 3.8.1 on Mac would clearly push people not to build > with the XCode system provided tools ? Well, it is still GNU make. But yes in general, its suggested to work on LibreOffice in a well defined environme

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] QA Meeting Minutes (2017-04-25)

2017-04-27 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi folks, On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 05:13:43PM +0200, Xisco Fauli wrote: > Hello, > > > * QA telegram group (x1sc0, 16:17:48) > > * buovjaga> yeah forums are better for asynch discussion (x1sc0, > > 16:23:03) > > * cloph is sceptical, doesn't think telegram would be > > newcomer-frien

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.3 RC2 test builds available

2013-05-02 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 10:40:59AM +0200, Fridrich Strba wrote: > Hi *, > > for the upcoming new version 4.0.3, the RC2 builds now start to be > available on pre-releases. This build is slated to be second release > candidate build on the way towards 4.0.3, please refer to our release > plan timin

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Removing bibisect3* bibisect whiteboard status?

2013-05-10 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 04:36:00PM -0700, Joel Madero wrote: > Another whiteboard status post. Should we just move forward with removing > bibisect3* whiteboard status'? Now that bibisect40 has everything, there's > really no need for these. > > My proposal: > > bibisectrequest -- needs a bibisec

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2013-05-21 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 09:46:18PM +0200, Eike Rathke wrote: > Hi, > > On Thursday, 2013-05-16 17:55:11 +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > > > > * Hamburg hack-fest (Thorsten) > > AI: + connect to University of Hamburg (Eike, verbally commited to that > &g

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] daily bibisect

2013-05-21 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, sorry for the late reply. I didnt find time to look into this earlier. On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 10:17:31AM -0400, Terrence Enger wrote: > I am for the first time trying to use a "daily" bibisect. For the > terminally curious, this is in aid of fdo#64686 "Bug in Contour > Editor"

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] daily bibisect

2013-05-21 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi Terrence, On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 06:54:11PM -0400, Terrence Enger wrote: > Thank you Bjoern. Everything you have suggested has worked as far as > I can go with it now; actual execution will need a 64-bit system, of > course. > > Just a couple of things more, if I may, please. > > (1) Should

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2013-05-23 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 05:46:53PM +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > Speaking of which, "last modified 08-May-2013" isnt so daily, so Im off > investigating why ... was: configure: error: unrecognized options: --disable-mozilla, --disable-binfilter intr

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2013-05-30 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 05:24:25PM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: > [ picom will deliver 2x German ones, next week > big 1kg - 16cm heatsink into the box, Norbert's > plan was to overclock the machine like crazy ] Note we dropped that heatsink from t

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2013-05-31 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 08:11:53AM -0700, Pedro wrote: > Opening the same complex xlsx file in 4.0.3.3 takes around 1 minute and a > half while in 4.1 it takes nearly 3 minutes (it takes only 12 seconds in > Excel 2010). > Unfortunately I can not share this file. But I can use it to test any > req

[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes QA-call 2013-05-03

2013-06-03 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi all, this is a raw copy of the minutes of the last QA call on 2013-05-31, the original can be found here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2013/May_31 Please refer to the wikipage for a better formatted format of the minutes. Best, Bjoern P.S.: Robinson, it would be awesom

[Libreoffice-qa] gerrit daily (was: minutes of ESC call ...)

2013-06-06 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 04:48:52PM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: > + get the gerrit / mail digest bits setup (Bjoern) > [ in progress, scripts in dev-tools ] The script is now in a usable state IMHO, but of cause can always be improved (like e.g. using Pythons mail-foo to constru

[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] gerrit daily digest active, please add yourself to watched projects, gerrit firehose likely ends next week (was: minutes of ESC call ...)

2013-06-07 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 04:04:14PM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: > + Proposed compromise: (decide on it next time) > + build a daily digest of submitted patches -> dev list > + with commit messages, authors, links etc. > + turn other notifi

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] gerrit daily digest active, please add yourself to watched projects, gerrit firehose likely ends next week (was: minutes of ESC call ...)

2013-06-07 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 01:49:55PM +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > so if there are no issues over the next week, we should then turn off the > firehose to the mailing list on Monday 2013-06-10 UTC -- so please prepare > to add your watched projects as needed then to keep your

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Server Install GUI release 4.1

2013-06-09 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi Flo, On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 02:25:34PM +0200, Florian Reisinger wrote: > Today I released a new version of ServerInstall GUI :) Awesome! > Infos / Download here: > http://flosmind.wordpress.com/2013/06/09/server-installation-gui-4-1/ were is the source code for this? Can we maybe host in th

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Server Install GUI release 4.1

2013-06-09 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 03:09:47PM +0200, Florian Reisinger wrote: > It's close to the dev-tools repo: > https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/gitweb?p=si-gui.git;a=shortlog;h=refs%2Fheads%2Fmaster Ah, cool. A repo on its own is even better. > BTW: Do you have the rights to delete all branches but mas

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [PATCH] dev-tools patch for gerrit script (was Re: gerrit daily )

2013-06-11 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hello Mat, On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 01:58:10AM +0200, Mat M wrote: > my patch is this: > Sanitize the age query parameters with -- > Improve layout of mail like: > -8<--- > Moin! > > * Open changes on master for project core chang

[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] gerrit daily digest active, please add yourself to watched projects, gerrit firehose ends 2013-06-17 0000UTC

2013-06-13 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, so the gerrit firehose will end on Monday 2013-06-17 UTC -- plus/minus a bit for me fumbling around with it. Best, Bjoern - Forwarded message from Bjoern Michaelsen - Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 13:49:55 +0200 From: Bjoern Michaelsen To: Michael Meeks Cc: Libreoffice-qa

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Food for thought...

2013-06-13 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 04:11:57PM -0700, Pedro wrote: > I'm well aware of Rob's bias. However assuming the bias is in the analysis > and not in the values, there are some interesting results. Thats a bold assumption -- I wouldnt go that far. If those numbers would be really relevant, we shou

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Food for thought...

2013-06-14 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi Pedro, On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 02:12:48AM -0700, Pedro wrote: > Another interesting reading > http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2013/06/13/wasted-time/ > This time about the new sidebar (and more, obviously) great to see your enthusiasm here, but while that is indeed an interesting read

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.0 Beta2 available

2013-06-16 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 12:08:30AM +0200, Thorsten Behrens wrote: > The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the second Beta release > of our new LibreOffice 4.1. The upcoming 4.1 will be our sixth major > release in two and a half years, and comes with a nice set of new > features. Plea

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Triage Contest - Quick Chat Wed if possible?

2013-06-17 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 09:15:36AM -0700, Joel Madero wrote: > Hi All, > > I'd like to have a chat (either IRC or google hangout + talkyoo) before the > triage contest if possible. If possible please do +1, 1330-1400 start time > works best for me and I suspect it'll be real quick (<30 minutes). J

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] gerrit daily digest active, please add yourself to watched projects, gerrit firehose ends 2013-06-17 0000UTC

2013-06-19 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 04:39:01PM +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > so the gerrit firehose will end on Monday 2013-06-17 UTC -- plus/minus a > bit for me fumbling around with it. this is done now. Best, Bjoern ___ List Name: Libreoff

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bug Fixed in 4.2 branch, broken in 4.1 daily, status thoughts?

2013-06-19 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 02:57:52PM -0700, Joel Madero wrote: > This is a general problem that I think we shoudl just talk a bit about. If > we confirm a bug on 4.1 but it's fixed in 4.2 master - what status is > appropriate? Usually WFM is good but it's hard to tell a user "so it'll be > broke

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bug Fixed in 4.2 branch, broken in 4.1 daily, status thoughts?

2013-06-19 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 10:43:34AM -0400, Robinson Tryon wrote: > On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 6:09 AM, Bjoern Michaelsen > wrote: > > > So, if we use bugzilla as intended, a bug that is fixed, but not in a > > released > > version yet should be "RESOLVED/FIXED".

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bug Fixed in 4.2 branch, broken in 4.1 daily, status thoughts?

2013-06-19 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 08:13:36AM -0700, Joel Madero wrote: > Hm, just one thing is missing. In this case we know it's fixed but have no > idea what patch fixed it - as far as I know everyone marks these as WFM in > general and only marks as FIXED if we know what commit fixed the issue. Well

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] gerrit daily digest active, please add yourself to watched projects, gerrit firehose ends 2013-06-17 0000UTC

2013-06-21 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi Mat, On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:46:51PM +0200, Mat M wrote: > Mind to merge my patch, please ? > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice-Gerrit-News-2013-06-17-tp4061810p4062117.html > > Thank you :) That patch doesnt apply cleanly as you created it against an outdated version: Appl

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.0 RC1 available

2013-06-23 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi all, On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 06:44:01PM +0200, Thorsten Behrens wrote: > The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA > builds download page at > > http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ and Ubuntu users can find a packaged version for Ubuntu 13.10 Saucy a

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2013-06-27 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 03:57:40PM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: > + on the other hand, we're getting through them: > + > https://plus.google.com/101094190333184858950/posts/KdvvR2npuBq Whoops. Replace that ugly bugzilla/gd/Perl thingie with something a big more bearable ge

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] BSA Versions - Update

2013-06-27 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 11:57:44AM -0700, Joel Madero wrote: > I have added Bjoern to this as he's the one who might be impacted most > because of the Ubuntu issue. Can we maybe make the wording more explicit e.g. "reached EOL at TDF"(*)? That makes it easier to dispell urban myths that its n

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Reported issues show the tendency to be more user questions ? BSA related ?

2013-07-01 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi Cor, On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 09:36:07AM +0200, Cor Nouws wrote: > Did I ever say that IMO reporting bugs is to easy? Yes I did. More > then once. Yes, I thinkk you have a point there. E.g. as much as I think OpenID login to bugzilla would increase the reports, I also indeed feel that would red

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Idea for the bugzilla wish list

2013-07-05 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 07:44:04AM +0200, Cor Nouws wrote: > is querying the version field with one full number or one decimal > (or two?) easily. > So > [4] [*] > or > [3] [6] > > Anyways, I guess there must be some sort of wish list ? ;) You can "matches the regular expression" in the "Custom

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Reported issues show the tendency to be more user questions ? BSA related ?

2013-07-05 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 04:59:15PM +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > I dont think so -- esp. it would not reduce the workload of those involved. > What one might entertain is the idea to add a "you seem to be filing a support > request, have you considered to use ask.libreoffice

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] URGENT Cherry pick regressions to next release

2013-07-08 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 05:18:05PM -0700, Pedro wrote: > > * Is the fix safe enough for a stable branch? > > * How much did the code change between the two versions? > Point 3: that is why it needs to be checked by 3 devs > Point 4: that should not be relevant. If the regression is already fix

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Send Feedback...and BSA ideas

2013-07-12 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 12:06:00PM -0700, Joel Madero wrote: > The idea is that if the user chooses to submit without an account, > the bug will be reported under a default account (possibly > b...@tdfplanet.org), they will be forced to enter an email address > and do a captcha - then their em

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Send Feedback...and BSA ideas

2013-07-13 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 07:07:36PM -0700, Joel Madero wrote: > b) Robinson's main point about ask site is that they don't have the man > power to be QA's screeners - I think that summarizes his stance in the > nicest way possible :) Basically what we are doing is asking the Ask admins > to be

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] QA Triage Contest

2013-07-15 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 06:36:29PM +0200, Nino Novak wrote: > can we see the effect graphically? https://bugs.freedesktop.org/reports.cgi?product=LibreOffice&datasets=UNCONFIRMED Best, Bjoern ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Lib

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Send Feedback...and BSA ideas

2013-07-15 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi Robinson, On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:18:07PM -0400, Robinson Tryon wrote: > On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Bjoern Michaelsen > I'd like to keep as much of the bug lifecycle in FDO. The more that > happens on the Ask site, the more that gets lots and Isn't copied-over >

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Send Feedback...and BSA ideas

2013-07-15 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:18:07PM -0400, Robinson Tryon wrote: > So it sounds like some kind of differentiation page (ala Mozilla) > could be our biggest win here. > > I'll try to mock-up an example of how this would look, and perhaps we > can test it out at https://www.libreoffice.org/get-h

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Send Feedback...and BSA ideas

2013-07-15 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 06:05:09PM -0400, Robinson Tryon wrote: > I know that everyone has been very busy, so I was planning to implement > the differentiation page myself. If Cloph or someone else would like > to do it, I am more than happy to give them the work^H^H^H^H^H glory > and go attack the

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Send Feedback...and BSA ideas

2013-07-15 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 05:59:37PM -0400, Robinson Tryon wrote: > I did that and I was told to stop. > > One big problem with Ask admins reporting a bug for a user is that the > reporter isthe Ask admin. Do you run OSX 10.7? Do you run Windows > Vista? I don't, so when a dev comes back a

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Send Feedback...and BSA ideas

2013-07-17 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 12:42:03AM +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > The important part on the mozilla feedback page is not the layout (dont get me > wrong: showing a smiley to someone angry at us is a Good Thing for mitigating > the pain), but the relevant part is IMHO what to do

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Send Feedback...and BSA ideas

2013-07-20 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 09:35:55AM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: > Personally I love the scope the BSA provides for making the end-user > presented components arbitrarily better. I'd love to make it easier to > find the BSA, and point more people at it instead of bugzilla - which (I > agre

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Send Feedback...and BSA ideas

2013-07-20 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 04:12:34PM -0700, bfoman wrote: > I think having separate page for code reviews (gerrit), bugs (own customized > Bugzilla with integrated BSA), support (ask-site) and feedback (input) is a > good idea. I miss other systems like telemetry data (metrics.mozilla.com) or >

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.0 RC3 available

2013-07-20 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 01:36:21AM +0200, Thorsten Behrens wrote: > The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA > builds download page at > > http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ And Ubuntu users find a packaged build in the pre-releases PPA at: http

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.6.7 RC2 available

2013-07-22 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi all, On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 01:37:34PM +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA > builds download page at > > http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ And a build for Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal) can be used from the libreof

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] FDO Version Management

2013-07-23 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:02:40PM -0700, Joel Madero wrote: > we know that some distros are still using 3.4 (RHEL) and 3.5 (Ubuntu 12.04 & > 12.10), Ubuntu 12.10 has LibreOffice 3.6 > Also, I'd like to get feedback about a version "pre-bibisect" - > right now we just mark these as 3.5beta0

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] FDO Version Management

2013-07-23 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 03:35:04PM +0200, Cor Nouws wrote: > Bjoern Michaelsen wrote (23-07-13 11:15) > > >Hmmm, IMHO the real solution would be to extend bibisect to that range. OTOH, > >doing that is such a pain ... > > I have some older installations. Unless I

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Easy QA Tasks - Input Needed

2013-07-31 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi Joel, On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 03:10:40PM -0700, Joel Madero wrote: > Hi All, > > As we build our team up it's becoming more and more possible to > tackle a wider array of things. I am looking for a list of easy > tasks that can be done by people just joining the team. We have a > call Friday f

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice "Help->Send Feedback" & BSA

2013-08-02 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 01:09:50PM -0400, Marc Paré wrote: > I just find that the "Send Feedback" process could be made a little > more "user friendly" as the BSA is a wonderful tool from a user > point of view. we should try to keep the user feedback in the BSA as > much as possible. As just

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice "Help->Send Feedback" & BSA

2013-08-02 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 11:23:04AM -0400, Robinson Tryon wrote: > On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Bjoern Michaelsen > wrote: > > https://twitter.com/kittylyst/status/363311652076544000 > > Ben Evans @kittylyst 2h > > > > @Sweetshark1 That's not even th

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] daily bibisect last updated 2013-07-16

2013-08-07 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi Jean-Baptiste, if time allows, could you have a look? Best, Bjoern from vacation On Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 04:50:59PM -0700, Terrence Enger wrote: > If I am reading > > correctly, the daily bibisect was last updated 2013-07-16. A

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Unconfirmed Bug Count (Promising #'s)

2014-01-07 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Tue, Jan 07, 2014 at 02:04:27AM +0100, Tommy wrote: > On Mon, 06 Jan 2014 04:13:30 +0100, Joel Madero > wrote: > > >Really incredible work: > >https://bugs.freedesktop.org/reports.cgi?product=LibreOffice&datasets=UNCONFIRMED > > > >Down to739! Lowest it has been in over 2 years! With thi

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Unconfirmed Bug Count (Promising #'s)

2014-01-07 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Tue, Jan 07, 2014 at 01:58:45PM +0100, Tommy wrote: > see also this chart: > http://snipurl.com/28ew3u5 Looking at that and other charts, some guestimates: - QA is doing great at confirming bugs from UNCONFIRMED->NEW as UNCONFIRMED goes down - QA/development is precise in telling people what

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bibisect Roundup

2014-01-13 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi Robinson, On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 03:11:05PM -0500, Robinson Tryon wrote: > Once we get some permissions issues fixed (hopefully in the next > couple of days), we'll have a combined repo ready for GNU/Linux x86_64 > covering 3.5-master through 2013-11-25. If you aren't running a 64-bit > versio

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2014-01-16 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 06:21:48PM +, Michael Meeks wrote: >+ "Writer no longer uses Text and Background Colours from > Windows High-Contrast theme for displaying document" (a11y) > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71511 (Bjoern) Mostly a no-win situation

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2014-01-16 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 06:21:48PM +, Michael Meeks wrote: > + all non MABs at priority Highest -> to priority high. Done e.g. with: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62038#c17 Best, Bjoern ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing

[Libreoffice-qa] MABs and priority (was: minutes of ESC call ...)

2014-01-17 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 06:21:48PM +, Michael Meeks wrote: > + All Most Annoying Bugs -> priority Highest (Bjoern) This is done now too, so right now, all NEW bugs(*) with priority highest should also block a MAB and all NEW bugs blocking a MAB should be priority highest. I updated t

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bisect GUI for Windows

2014-01-18 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, sorry, I missed/skipped over this mail and only now stimbled over it. On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 09:59:13AM +0100, Florian Reisinger wrote: > However, looking at Björn, cloph, have YOU done anything up to now > or should I start to look into the library? No, I found no time at all for that unfo

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] MABs and priority (was: minutes of ESC call ...)

2014-01-21 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 12:01:21PM +0100, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > == short term == > > To keep the highest=MAB equivalence clean, some regular (weekly?) checking for > bugs that are priority:highest and not a MAB would be needed. Such bugs could > be seen as "proposed

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] MABs and priority (was: minutes of ESC call ...)

2014-01-23 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 07:21:11AM -0800, Robinson Tryon wrote: > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Bjoern Michaelsen > wrote: > > Hi, > > So to ease this work, I created two stored queries: > > > > > > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?cmdty

[Libreoffice-qa] QA EasyHack: Summarize bug comments (fdo#73993)

2014-01-23 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, as a result of a rather casual discussion on #libreoffice-dev (originally along the lines of "we should autoclose all bugs with more than 42 comments, one cannot possibly make sense of that with all the noise"), I created: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73993 which might serio

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] MAB

2014-02-06 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Wed, Feb 05, 2014 at 10:09:43AM -0800, Joel Madero wrote: > Can everyone be on the lookout for people putting their own bugs on MAB > list. I've seen an increase in users doing this and it's making the MAB > almost unmanageable. This might be a sideeffect of the release. But FWIW, 20 bugs

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] MAB

2014-02-06 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 06:38:36AM -0800, Joel Madero wrote: > I don't think an upper limit is going to solve the problem that users are > quickly figuring out our secret behind the scenes action and think that it's > the fastest way to get their own bugs fixed. There is no "secret behind the

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.5 RC3 test builds available

2014-02-07 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi all, On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 07:26:27PM +0100, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > for the upcoming new version 4.1.5, the builds for rc3 are now > available on pre-releases (windows helppacks still uploading) And Ubuntu users will find a update to 4.1.5~rc3 at: https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+a

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Update on Bisect GUI 4 Windows

2014-02-12 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Sat, Feb 08, 2014 at 10:12:24AM +0100, Florian Reisinger wrote: > You can find a first version here: http://florei-libo.115.at/QA/monoBibiGUI/ > Basically it is working Awesome! Sorry for not giving much guidance here, but I really didnt find the time to set up some Windows box. But I

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] gdb: bt with symbols for 4.2.0 on Ubuntu

2014-02-13 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 04:29:37PM +0100, Sophie wrote: > Currently, the dbg packages available for Ubuntu to get backtraces are > based on 1.4.3. > If I want to get a backtrace with symbols on a crash in 4.2.0, how do I do? > see here for a not useful backtrace I provided ;) > https://bugs.freedes

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] gdb: bt with symbols for 4.2.0 on Ubuntu

2014-02-13 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 04:55:15PM +0100, Sophie wrote: > I've installed libreoffice-dbg, but the package is based on 4.1.3, and > if I run soffice --backtrace this version is launched, which seems correct. > If I run gdb /opt/libreoffice4.2/program/soffice.bin, I've no symbols > here :) So, /opt/

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LIbreOffice 4.2.2 RC1 available

2014-03-05 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 11:43:59AM +0100, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA > builds download page at > > http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ > > LibreOffice 4.2.2 RC1 is also available in a 64bit version for Mac OS >

[Libreoffice-qa] URGENT: Hackfest Gran Canaria -- April, 24-25 2014 -- be a participant!

2014-03-07 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi all, as already noted during the ESC call, we will have a LibreOffice Hackfest in Las Palmas de Gran Canaria on April, 25-26. As usual, I created a wikipage for the event: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/GranCanaria2014 The location is actually quite easily reachable from all of

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] URGENT: Hackfest Gran Canaria -- April, 24-25 2014 -- be a participant!

2014-03-07 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 06:15:25PM +0100, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > Las Palmas de Gran Canaria on April, 25-26. whops, correction: April, 24-25 (Thursday and Friday) -- the email subject and wiki page are correct. Best, Bjoern (Thanks tml for the quick h

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 4.2.1 is a Stable version???

2014-03-09 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi Pedro, On Sat, Mar 08, 2014 at 02:00:47AM -0800, Pedro wrote: > http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/ > "LibreOffice is available in the following stable versions: > 4.1.5 > 4.2.1 > " Since we are doing the "LibreOffice Fresh"/"LibreOffice Stable" thing on the website

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Disallow REOPEN on ancient bugs

2014-03-14 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 08:12:49PM -0400, Kohei Yoshida wrote: > I'm just wondering whether it's possible to disallow reopening of bugs > if they are at least more than a year old (or whatever some arbitrary > time period)? I've seen people re-opening bugs that were closed more > than 2-3 years ag

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Version field options way too fine grained

2014-03-14 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi Kohei, On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 09:58:00AM -0400, Kohei Yoshida wrote: > I have my saved query and try to select all relevant versions but it's > prone to errors. Today I just discovered a regression that I didn't see > before because its version field was set to 4.2.0.0alpha0+Master which I >

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2014-03-20 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 04:14:25PM +, Michael Meeks wrote: > * QA (Robinson) > + couple more QA events planned for the future > + unconfirmed bug count is stabilizing a bit. > + getting rid of the last 2x 4.0 MAB > + script generates 2x bugs (in error) (Michael) > A

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.2.3 RC2 test builds available

2014-03-27 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 12:14:15PM +0100, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > Grab the builds from here here: > > http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/ Ubuntu tester will also find builds for trusty: https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+arc

[Libreoffice-qa] Bibisect status update: 535 builds covering 46749 commits in one repo

2014-03-28 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi all, so -- it took longer than expected, but I finally updated and cleaned up the bibisect wiki page. We now have 535 LibreOffice builds covering 46749 commit (mid-3.5 until 4.2 branch point) in one repo. That download is still manageable 8.4GB (thats ~16MB per build) and allows you to bibisect

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bisect GUI for Windows

2014-04-19 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 06:39:53PM +0200, Florian Reisinger wrote: > Today I restarted with Java, as the Mono-solution is not compatible with > Linux... Stay tuned. PS: I do have problems to create a .JAR at the moment, > but compiling with Eclipse and IntelliJ Idea Help appreciated, sam

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bisect GUI for Windows

2014-04-20 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 09:43:45AM -0700, Robinson Tryon wrote: > Bjoern -- Thoughts on using Glade for this purpose? I figure it might > be good to use the same stuff we're using elsewhere in the LO > project... I dont think Glade is a good idea. If the bibisect UI is sufficiently simple (a

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Python vs Java, Was Bisect GUI for Windows

2014-04-20 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 02:57:36PM -0400, Jay Lozier wrote: > Also, with Python, the interpreter is likely not installed on > Windows and possibly a Mac. Python ships with LibreOffice on Windows and Mac (and can be assumed to be there on ~all Linux installs). But anyway, the only thing that would

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] bibisect suggestion (was: QA Meeting Minutes - 2014-04-21)

2014-04-21 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 05:43:43PM -0400, Terrence Enger wrote: > From the QA meeting minutes: > > > (*) SUGGESTION: Standardization of our summary field for Bugzilla > > (*) Or: When searching for one phrase, display results from a > < similar one (e.g. "image" -> "picture" or "graphic")

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [None] in 4.3

2014-04-22 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 07:29:12PM +0200, Thomas Hackert wrote: > > Do we have a bisect package for 4.3..? > > No idea, sorry ... :( Not yet. I plan to build one mid-May. Best, Bjoern ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffic

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Qa talk LibOConf 14

2014-05-03 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Sat, May 03, 2014 at 08:01:26PM +0200, Florian Reisinger wrote: > Do,we have a QA talk in Bern? I am only attend from Tue (evening)-Fri > (leaving early). So would be good to have it on Wed or Thu I havent submitted a generic QA session yet, but we will try to take your scheduling into

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Question of the use of 'Fresh' rather than 'Beta' and support for XP

2014-05-05 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 02:13:04PM +0400, Jay Philips wrote: > I was curious why the word "Fresh" is used rather than the more > widely used word "Beta" for the latest development release branch. Beta is rarely used for branches, it is mostly used for tags (just like LibreOffice does). Best, Bjo

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Question of the use of 'Fresh' rather than 'Beta' and support for XP

2014-05-05 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 04:59:37PM +0400, Jay Philips wrote: > Yes initially i was confused as i was used to seeing chrome's > labelling there releases as development, beta and stable.I think it > would be great if the website would provide better explanation on > the download pages of what ea

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Question of the use of 'Fresh' rather than 'Beta' and support for XP

2014-05-05 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 07:24:07PM +0400, Jay Philips wrote: > Please enlighten me as i couldnt find any mention of submitting bug > reports on the download page. Hint: libreoffice.org is the download page. Calling for bug reports is on that page, along with all the other essential stuff. Bu

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Redmine Website QA Suggestions

2014-05-05 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 02:16:15PM -0700, Joel Madero wrote: > So the first question is for the default download page - are we > generally agreed that "stable" should be the default? Im disagreeing there. The only reason "stable" is more settled than "fresh" is that we have so many people dow

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2014-05-12 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 06:41:07AM -0700, Pedro wrote: > Tommy wrote > > IMHO not a good idea... the "mature" term would be prone to jokes.. > > try type mature in google and see all the embarassing results... :-D > > +1 > > Mature is really a bad choice. > > Maybe Vintage? Putting both "

[Libreoffice-qa] please continue on marketing list (was: minutes of ESC call ...)

2014-05-12 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 07:57:23AM +0200, Tommy wrote: > On Fri, 09 May 2014 16:52:11 +0200, Charles-H. Schulz > wrote: > >Esp. When we are about to change the "stable" to "mature". > IMHO not a good idea... the "mature" term would be prone to jokes.. > try type mature in google and see all the em

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-projects] minutes of ESC call ...

2014-05-13 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 04:29:41PM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: > + HackFest 'pack' / box / Virtual Machines / etc. ? > + idea of the Virtual-Boxes is rather good (Kendy) > + don't want to discourage that. > + Peli-cases for hack-fests would be cool > + 1x

[Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice 4.3~alpha1 bibisect

2014-05-15 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi all, I just uploaded an update for the Canonical LibreOffice bibisect build on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (precise) repo for the range from LibreOffice 4.2 branchpoint to LibreOffice 4.3 alpha1 and uploaded the builds to people.canonical.com. You find link and the usual info at: https://wiki.documentfo

[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of the ESC call ...

2014-05-15 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
* Present: + Kendy, Bjoern, Stephan, cloph, Lionel, Eike, Miklos, Norbert, Markus, Cedric. Eilidh, David, Michael S., Andras, Astron, Jacobo * Completed Action Items + add HackFest hardware / Amazon VMs to Board budget planning (Michael) + poke Sophie to check updating is checked

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-projects] minutes of ESC call ...

2014-05-18 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi bfoman, On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 04:45:20AM -0700, bfoman wrote: > Mozilla wants to give-away their used Mac Mini hardware for non-profit > organizations. > Deadline May 22nd to apply. More details at http://armenzg.blogspot.com/. > If you take them, those can be turned into Mac/Linux/Windows H

[Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice 4.3~beta1 bibisect

2014-05-21 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi all, On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 02:12:23PM +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > When we hit LibreOffice 4.3 branchpoint (around the beta), I plan to update > again and merge the stuff into a "43all" repository, but for now you should be > able to do a good amount of bibisecting

[Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice 43 bibisect (was: LibreOffice 4.3~beta1 bibisect)

2014-05-22 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 01:18:11AM +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > I will now merge those and upload a 43all and 43only repo replacing the > current > 42all and 42only ones ... 43only merged and uploaded -- so with 42all and 43only you have the range from mid-3.5 to 4.3 branchoff in

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 4.3 Bug Hunting Weekend!

2014-05-22 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi Pedro, Joel, On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 09:02:09AM -0700, Pedro wrote: > jmadero wrote > > To download /_*latest daily build*_/ of 4.3 please go here: > > http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/ > > ... wouldn't it make more sense that everybody is using the same build aka > the official

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Stable PPA Suggestion

2014-05-23 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 07:58:28PM +0400, Jay Philips wrote: > Not sure if this is the best place to mention this, but i wanted to > suggest that similar to having a pre-release and fresh ppa for ubuntu > and derivatives, that we have a stable ppa that users who wish to stay > on stable dont have t

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Stable PPA Suggestion

2014-05-23 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi, On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:54:17PM +0400, Jay Philips wrote: > Yes it would only be relevant to LTS users as ubuntu ships 'fresh' > releases and non-LTS versions only last for 9 months. I think it could > easily be achieved with a simple 301 redirect which is changed whenever > a new stable is

[Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice 43all bibisect (was: LibreOffice 4.3~beta1 bibisect)

2014-05-24 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
HI, On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 02:27:08PM +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 01:18:11AM +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > > I will now merge those and upload a 43all and 43only repo replacing the > > current > > 42all and 42only ones ... > > 43onl

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