[LIB] Libretto L3

2002-03-13 Thread Renita Herrmann

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 22:50:22 -0800
From: "Renita Herrmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Libretto L3

I didn't get the L3 yet; I take it he's bringing them back from Japan and wasn't home 
yet. Will let you know...yes, it's a she. I missed my 100 (cracked screen from rolling 
my car 3x) that I bought 3 more on Ebay to take its place, then bought an L3 just to 
be sure. I even bought a double USB port card and a SmartMedia card reader for my 
camera. My 100 has travelled around the world with me, in a Timberland pouch. The 
little latches were eaten off by my bird a few years ago, and my son cracked the case 
a few weeks ago, just cosmetic stuff. But open the batteries? Sacre bleu! This Dell is 
driving me nuts. The task/start bar is frozen. It takes 10-15 minutes to figure out 
what it's supposed to be doing. It's a Pentium 4 but it's like driving a Porsche on 
the Autobahn in first gear. Will let you know about the L3 (am going boarding for a 
few days and can't get it till I come back). Renita



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Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

2002-03-13 Thread fubarlibretto

Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 13:47:33 +0700
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> My Linux L100 beats you both! Just under a minute to boot and about 15
seconds to go down :-)

My DOS beats your Linux!!!  :-P




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Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

2002-03-13 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 06:34:41 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

>Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 00:28:51 -0500
>From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > She (am I right in assuming that?) said she got it in San Francisco... 
>That might explain things right there Pres.  ;-p
>
>
>Nah, the West Coast is a popular place for importers to bring Japanese
>machines in... the Toshiba Freecard bucks don't work anywhere except 
>Toshiba America and one or 2 retailers.


"Toshiba Freecard"?  Que es esta?



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Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

2002-03-13 Thread Pres Waterman

Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 00:28:51 -0500
From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

> >
> >I have a lot of Toshiba bucks and would like to get a more modern
Libretto
> >yes, I know they are more like Porteges than Librettos ) but I thought
they
> >were back to Japan-only...
>
>
> She (am I right in assuming that?) said she got it in San Francisco...
That
> might explain things right there Pres.  ;-p


Nah, the West Coast is a popular place for importers to bring Japanese
machines in... the Toshiba Freecard bucks don't work anywhere except Toshiba
America and one or 2 retailers.

Thanks

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Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

2002-03-13 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 05:24:18 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

>Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 22:23:24 -0500
>From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >
> > Have any of you gotten ahold of the new Libbies? I just bought an L3 and
>am
> > on my way out the door to pick it up (just down the street here in San
> > Francisco...). Renita
>
>
>Are these Librettos sold from Toshiba America? I thought the latest one 
>sold in the US was the L110...
>
>I have a lot of Toshiba bucks and would like to get a more modern Libretto 
>yes, I know they are more like Porteges than Librettos ) but I thought they 
>were back to Japan-only...


She (am I right in assuming that?) said she got it in San Francisco...  That 
might explain things right there Pres.  ;-p



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Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

2002-03-13 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 05:17:30 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

>Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 09:50:44 +0800
>From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000
>
>At 12:45 PM 13/03/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> >Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 20:40:35 +
> >From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000
> >
> >>Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:26:29 -0500
> >>From: "Lawrence Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >>
> >>- Original Message -
> >>From: "Eyetech Technical" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 10:15 AM
> >>Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000
> >>
> >>
> Even the machine is complete shutdown, there is still some power drain 
>from battery(mystery of every Libretto). You can do a comparison 
>youself.<<<
> >
> >>> Resource hog is being kind. 64Mb is simply not enough memory for it to 
>run well. Please enlighten me as to what you have removed to trim it down 
>and make it more responsive, as I would love to follow suit.< <
> >
> >>Basically it involves stop/remove some background services that aren't
> >>really useful for a machine like Libretto. Do a search on the internet 
>you will find many places listing tips of doing so.<
> >
> >Does W2000 have a utility like MSCONFIG in W98?  I've used that a lot to 
>disable all the many applications that insist on setting themselves to load 
>at boot.  You end up with dozens of little icons in the system tray on the 
>right end of the status bar that suck the life out of the system resources.
>
>Win2k doesn't come with msconfig. I use a program called StartupCPL 
>(freeware) to do the adjustments on my 2k desktop as well as on my laptop 
>... its pretty much a souped up msconfig.<

Great... Good for people how write nice freeware!   What do you know about 
checking the system resources Raymond?  It sounded like that was something 
W2000 wasn't abble to monitor that well.

Matt




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Re: [LIB] WindowsME

2002-03-13 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 05:10:15 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] WindowsME

>Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:22:43 -0800
>From: "Renita Herrmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>I have Windows ME on my Dell 8200 and it makes me curse at least a dozen 
>times an hour. It won't even do Control-Alt-Delete. The windows appear and 
>won't go away, or they go away and leave a white blank. Sometimes it 
>freezes on Control-Alt-Delete without doing anything, and I have to hit the 
>button to turn it off. It SUCKS. Big time. I would replace it but it's 
>under warantee and I don't want to touch it yet. Renita<

How much RAM, and what CPU?  After the warrantee expires, you could go 
W2000... or XP.

Hey folks... I know XP is a resource hog that needs a fast CPU and 128MB 
RAM, but I haven't heard any comments on just how stable it is as an OS.  
It's GOT to be better than ME if you have the power, isn't it?

Matt



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Re: renaming "Program Files" folder [LIB]

2002-03-13 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 05:04:42 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: renaming "Program Files" folder [LIB]

Heh... yeah!  You remember those huh?  They were like short water skis with 
a little cord attached to the nose that you held in your hand.  
Skateboarders took to them like flies to honey in the early 70s, and 
eventually redesigned them into what we know as the snowboard... now an 
Olympic event!  Surfing, motocross, BMX, skateboarding, skiing, hang 
glidings, ultralight people seem to have a huge population of adults who 
never grew up.  Boys with their toys... :-)


>Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:00:51 -0800
>From: "Renita Herrmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>SNURFING! I remember that. A plywood board with (or without, if you were 
>really crazed) on the nose, straight edges...You could KILL yourself really 
>easily.
>- Original Message -
>From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >They said I was nuts getting invloved in childish pastimes like
> > >skateboarding and snurfing (the precursor to snowboarding) back in the
> > >early 70s... and laughed when I said people would be buying their music
> > >from a computer interface to a network... so I'm pretty used to people
> > >thinking I'm nuts!< <


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Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

2002-03-13 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 04:54:26 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

>Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:48:29 -0800
>From: "Renita Herrmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Have any of you gotten ahold of the new Libbies? I just bought an L3 and am 
>on my way out the door to pick it up (just down the street here in San 
>Francisco...). Renita<


Will be waiting eagerly to hear your impressions and observations Renita!

I'm also still waiting to hear more about someone's experiences with, 
"Fujitsu LOOX makes it to the USA $1499 mininote w/DVD&CD-RW":

http://www.fpc.fujitsu.com/www/products_notebooks.shtml?products/notebooks/p_series

...that David introduced to the list last November.

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RE: [LIB] Dual / triple boot

2002-03-13 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 04:47:30 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] Dual / triple boot

Guess that's about as good an explaination from why I'm embarking on a quest 
to install, and attempt to comprehend yet another another Linux OS!  ;-p


>From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Haha its cool.. Sometimes we all need a maual adjustment by foot.. ;-)..
>I know I have thought about using an emu to load a virtual mac maching
>on my intel. Just to say I have done it.. ;-)
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Matthew Hanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:31 PM
>To: Libretto
>Subject: RE: [LIB] Dual / triple boot
>
>
>Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 20:23:27 +
>From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: [LIB] Dual / triple boot
>
> >Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 08:04:21 -0600
> >From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >Yea just do a search on mac emu.. Should be able to find it..
>
>Sometimes it takes a kick in the butt to get me to do a simple two word
>search like that on Google.  I was entering things like, "mac OS
>emulation
>for PC" and coning up with a lot of PC emulation for Macs.
>
>But searching for "Mac emulation", as you suggested, I found:
>
>http://mes.emuunlim.com/
>
>...near the top of the list in fine Google fashion!  Top of the page
>there
>sez, "..using the Mac emulators Fusion-PC V2.0 and Basilisk II (which
>emulate the Mac OS on PC computers)."
>
>Thanks for the adjustment Phillip!
>
>Matt




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Re: [LIB] Touchscreens for Librettos - alternatives

2002-03-13 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 04:40:10 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Touchscreens for Librettos - alternatives

>Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:16 +
>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [LIB] Touchscreens for Librettos - alternatives
>
>Sorry, I over-optimized it and deleted too much. :-)

And maybe didn't delete enough at the same time :-)

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>Pres, you wanted to know in an earlier post in this topic, what eye gaze 
>systems are.
>
>--Originalnachricht-
>|Von:  Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>|An:   Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>|Betreff:  Re: [LIB] Touchscreens for Librettos - alternatives
>|Antwort an:   Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>|Datum:Mittwoch, 13. März 2002 19:35
>|
>|Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:26:51 -0500
>|From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>|Subject: Re: [LIB] Touchscreens for Librettos - alternatives
>|
>|Hi. What is this in response to?
>|
>|Thanks
>|
>|Pres Waterman W2PW
>|c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc.
>|Long Island Ford and Kia dealer
>|
>|GO BILLS!
>|
>|- Original Message -
>|From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>|To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>|Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:15 PM
>|Subject: Re: [LIB] Touchscreens for Librettos - alternatives
>|
>|
>|> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:05 +
>|> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>|> Subject: Re: [LIB] Touchscreens for Librettos - alternatives
>|>
>|> Pres,
>|>
>|> eye gaze systems, which observe the users eye movements:
>|>
>|> for example:
>|> Quick Glance
>|> by EyeTech Digital Systems, Inc.
>|> How does Quick Glance work?
>|> Camera mounted on computer monitor is focused on user's eye.
>|> Quick Glance determines where user is looking--the gaze point Cursur is
>|placed at the gaze point.
>|> "Mouse clicks" are done with a slow eye blink, an eye dwell, or a 
>hardware
>|switch.
>|>
>|>
>|>
>|>
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Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

2002-03-13 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 04:37:32 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

>Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:18:04 -0500
>From: "Lawrence Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > Does W2000 have a utility like MSCONFIG in W98?  I've used that a lot to 
>disable all the many applications that insist on setting themselves to load 
>at boot.  You end up with dozens of little icons in the system tray on the 
>right end of the status bar that suck the life out of the system 
>resources.< <
>
>Nope. The thing I mentioned are services that usually does not display
>anything and you need to use Service Control Panel to disable them.
>
> > Also, there must be a place in W2000 where the system resources are 
>displayed immediately following a boot to the desktop.  IN W98, you can 
>right click My Computer, and go to the Performance tab.< <
> >
>
>Much easier than Win98. Just right click on task bar bring up the Task
>Manager. It shows all the information there. 100 times more useful than
>anyhting you can find in Win98.


So it sounds like W2000 has similar features like MSCONFIG, and the System 
Properties as W98, but with more useful menus and controls, no?


>Win98 also suffers from the 64 KB limit on system GDI resource and USER
>resource (64KB for GDI and 64KB for USER in Win98. Win95 only have 64KB
>total for both USER and GDI). A buggy software can easily cause these
>resource to leak and when all the 64KB are used up, system crashed without 
>warning. WinNT/2000 does not have these limitations. As a result, there is 
>no way in NT/2000 to check how much GDI and USER resource is used or how 
>much is free.


I'm not versed in the terms 'GDI' and 'USER resource'.  Are you saying that 
there no way to check/monitor any kind of system resources at all, or just 
specific ones?

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Re: [LIB] WindowsME

2002-03-13 Thread Pres Waterman

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 22:26:08 -0500
From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] WindowsME

>
> I have Windows ME on my Dell 8200 and it makes me curse at least a dozen
times an hour. It won't even do Control-Alt-Delete. The windows appear and
won't go away, or they go away and leave a white blank. Sometimes it freezes
on Control-Alt-Delete without doing anything, and I have to hit the button
to turn it off. It SUCKS. Big time. I would replace it but it's under
warantee and I don't want to touch it yet. Renita


Thus, it is Dell's problem to solve.

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Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

2002-03-13 Thread Pres Waterman

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 22:23:24 -0500
From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

>
> Have any of you gotten ahold of the new Libbies? I just bought an L3 and
am
> on my way out the door to pick it up (just down the street here in San
> Francisco...). Renita


Are these Librettos sold from Toshiba America? I thought the latest one sold
in the US was the L110...

I have a lot of Toshiba bucks and would like to get a more modern Libretto
 yes, I know they are more like Porteges than Librettos ) but I thought they
were back to Japan-only...

Thanks

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RE: [LIB] Lib 1100 panel-mounted mouse - how quick and

2002-03-13 Thread Raymond

Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 10:22:02 +0800
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] Lib 1100 panel-mounted mouse - how quick and

At 06:02 PM 13/03/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:47:02 -0600
>From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: [LIB] Lib 1100 panel-mounted mouse - how quick and
>
>Or wait till xp for pads come out.. 

eh?


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Re: [LIB] Lib 1100 panel-mounted mouse - how quick and

2002-03-13 Thread Raymond

Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 09:54:58 +0800
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 1100 panel-mounted mouse - how quick and

At 01:47 PM 13/03/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:30 +
>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 1100 panel-mounted mouse - how quick and
>
>|
>|   Your Jornada runs WinCE.  The entire OS is designed to do away
>|with concepts such as right-clicking and other option clicks.  
>
>By the way, I can use the right click option with the "alt"+stylus_pick.

There ... so you DO need another button! :-)


>The drag
>|option vs. a click is usually resolved on systems by either using a double
>|click, or detecting a click vs. a hold.  My old synaptics touchpad on my
>|previous laptop had a "bounce" option to handle drag actions, but this too
>|involves something more complex than a simple "dumb" stylus control.
>|   The short and simple answer is that your PDA is designed to only
>|need a single input mode, while the desktop version of Windows is not.
>|
>|CK
>
>CK, I can understand, that the WinCE is not complex enough. But I can imagine, that 
>drivers could be available to make the touchscreen applications input compatible to 
>the Windows OS.

Ya you end up doing things like tapping 4 times to emulate a right click. No thanks. 
And how will you do a right drag? Or a mouseover (as opposed to a mouse drag)?


>What are the differences?
>On the CE surface, a moving cursor is not visible. Pointing to something on CE is 
>like moving the cursor to this point and left-clicking. Double clicking is double 
>clicking on every OS. "alt"+pick is like right-clicking.
>
>In my opinion, with the right driver, the buttons could be helpful, but should not be 
>necessary.\

Drivers won't cure cancer ...


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Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

2002-03-13 Thread Raymond

Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 09:53:01 +0800
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

At 01:25 PM 13/03/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:18:04 -0500
>From: "Lawrence Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 3:45 PM
>Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000
>
>...
>
>Win98 also suffers from the 64 KB limit on system GDI resource and USER
>resource (64KB for GDI and 64KB for USER in Win98. Win95 only have 64KB
>total for both USER and GDI). A buggy software can easily cause these
>resource to leak and when all the 64KB are used up, system crashed without
>warning. WinNT/2000 does not have these limitations. As a result, there is
>no way in NT/2000 to check how much GDI and USER resource is used or how
>much is free.

You can look up GDI in task manager by enabling that column (view>columns) ... 
TaskInfo (again a google) will give you virtually everything there is to know about a 
process in Win2k.


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RE: [LIB] Lib 1100 panel-mounted mouse - how quick and

2002-03-13 Thread phillip ramirez

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:47:02 -0600
From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] Lib 1100 panel-mounted mouse - how quick and

Or wait till xp for pads come out.. 

-Original Message-
From: Raymond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 7:52 PM
To: Libretto
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 1100 panel-mounted mouse - how quick and


Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 09:45:22 +0800
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 1100 panel-mounted mouse - how quick and

At 09:15 AM 13/03/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:46 +
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 1100 panel-mounted mouse - how quick and
>
>Raymond, you wrote:
>
>Actually I'd have to disagree ... just because we've used pens for so 
>long doesn't
>mean its necessarily the right way of using your muscles (notice all
those pens out 
>there that are designed to help muscle cramps for instance). Besides
which using a 
>Windows PC requires at least 4 input signals, (pointer move, pointer
drag, pointer 
>action, pointer secondary action), at least 3 for a Mac and at least 5
for an X 
>interface. A pen by itself can really only provide one (hence why the
Palmax has 
>buttons on the rear left of the panel and other tablet-pen type devices
have buttons 
>on the pen itself, a situation that isn't really terrifically ergonomic
as the 
>forefinger is the only one that can really press buttons in a pen
situation and that 
>affects accuracy). 
>
>Raymond,
>
>my Jornada uses a stylus with no other signals than the pressing point 
>on the touchscreen, and I do not need buttons. I am not experienced 
>with the technics, but why do one need the buttons of the Palmax, when 
>one can press simply the pen on the screen like I do with my Jornada?

Windows CE, PocketPC, PalmOS and so on were designed knowing that the
user can only have 1 inputs enabling click for select (as well as double
click, triple click and so on) and in some cases drag for dragging.
Notice you can't right-click or mouse-over on such operating systems.

Windows for 'real' PCs was designed to have at least 4 inputs being the
independant mouse move (which triggers mouseovers and the like), the
left click for select (as well as the double/triple click), the right
click for context and the left drag for dragging. Some programs also use
the right drag, the 2 button click and the 2 button drag. It gets even
more complicated for Linux.

Its more a case of what the OS was designed to use ... it'd probably be
easier on a mac which was designed with only 1 mouse button where the
only thing you'd miss is the independant mouse move (you'll still have
your single button clicks and could emulate drags).


- Raymond

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Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

2002-03-13 Thread Raymond

Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 09:50:44 +0800
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

At 12:45 PM 13/03/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 20:40:35 +
>From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000
>
>>Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:26:29 -0500
>>From: "Lawrence Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "Eyetech Technical" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 10:15 AM
>>Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000
>>
>>
Even the machine is complete shutdown, there is still some power drain from 
>battery(mystery of every Libretto). You can do a comparison youself.<<<
>
>>> Resource hog is being kind. 64Mb is simply not enough memory for it to run well. 
>Please enlighten me as to what you have removed to trim it down and make it more 
>responsive, as I would love to follow suit.< <
>
>>Basically it involves stop/remove some background services that aren't
>>really useful for a machine like Libretto. Do a search on the internet you will find 
>many places listing tips of doing so.<
>
>Does W2000 have a utility like MSCONFIG in W98?  I've used that a lot to disable all 
>the many applications that insist on setting themselves to load at boot.  You end up 
>with dozens of little icons in the system tray on the right end of the status bar 
>that suck the life out of the system resources.

Win2k doesn't come with msconfig. I use a program called StartupCPL (freeware) to do 
the adjustments on my 2k desktop as well as on my laptop ... its pretty much a souped 
up msconfig.


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Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

2002-03-13 Thread Raymond

Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 09:48:29 +0800
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

At 11:46 AM 13/03/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 02:52:59 +0700
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000
>
>>> Win'2K shuts down a hell of a lot faster than '98 (and more
>>> reliably, too).
>>
>> After seeing this post about timing shutdown of Win2K on a L100 I ran the
>> same timings on my L110 with Win2K as was done above with Win98 & Win2K.
>> I found that my unit (with the original 4.3G HD and 64mb memory) was up
>> and running in 1:25 seconds and shut down in 15 seconds!
>
>So: our times are ~identical, ie same despite 4.3GB / 30GB HDDs
>So: Win'2K does boot faster that Win'98 in a 110 Libretto with 64MB RAM...
>
>My Win'2K shutdown is in the order of:-
>-- via "Start" menu:- a fraction under 20 seconds in total
>-- on/off button:- about 6-7 seconds in total

My Linux L100 beats you both! Just under a minute to boot and about 15 seconds to go 
down :-)


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Re: [LIB] Touchscreens for Librettos - alternatives

2002-03-13 Thread Raymond

Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 09:46:21 +0800
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Touchscreens for Librettos - alternatives

At 09:15 AM 13/03/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:55 +
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [LIB] Touchscreens for Librettos - alternatives
>
>Shultz, you wrote:
>
>I've used one of these with my Lib before (and sometimes with my desktop 
>too).  The finger trackball has a couple of advantages:
>[...]
>
>Disadvantages:
>1. You must put it down to type, and pick it back up to mouse.  This quickly 
>annoys if you have to switch often.
>
>Shultz,
>
>as I understood the picture, I do not have to put it down. 
>
>Could you please tell me, why it is a must? 
>
>If yes, I guarantee you, that I would be very annoyed because I have to switch very 
>often. Your response is very helpful.

Well I dunno how small YOUR fingers are but mine are having a hard enough time fitting 
on the libby's keyboard ... I don't need a mouse 'ring' on my finger to spread my 
fingers even more .. heh


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Re: [LIB] Lib 1100 panel-mounted mouse - how quick and

2002-03-13 Thread Raymond

Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 09:45:22 +0800
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 1100 panel-mounted mouse - how quick and

At 09:15 AM 13/03/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:46 +
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 1100 panel-mounted mouse - how quick and
>
>Raymond, you wrote:
>
>Actually I'd have to disagree ... just because we've used pens for so long doesn't 
>mean its necessarily the right way of using your muscles (notice all those pens out 
>there that are designed to help muscle cramps for instance). Besides which using a 
>Windows PC requires at least 4 input signals, (pointer move, pointer drag, pointer 
>action, pointer secondary action), at least 3 for a Mac and at least 5 for an X 
>interface. A pen by itself can really only provide one (hence why the Palmax has 
>buttons on the rear left of the panel and other tablet-pen type devices have buttons 
>on the pen itself, a situation that isn't really terrifically ergonomic as the 
>forefinger is the only one that can really press buttons in a pen situation and that 
>affects accuracy). 
>
>Raymond,
>
>my Jornada uses a stylus with no other signals than the pressing point on the 
>touchscreen, and I do not need buttons. I am not experienced with the technics, but 
>why do one need the buttons of the Palmax, when one can press simply the pen on the 
>screen like I do with my Jornada?

Windows CE, PocketPC, PalmOS and so on were designed knowing that the user can only 
have 1 inputs enabling click for select (as well as double click, triple click and so 
on) and in some cases drag for dragging. Notice you can't right-click or mouse-over on 
such operating systems.

Windows for 'real' PCs was designed to have at least 4 inputs being the independant 
mouse move (which triggers mouseovers and the like), the left click for select (as 
well as the double/triple click), the right click for context and the left drag for 
dragging. Some programs also use the right drag, the 2 button click and the 2 button 
drag. It gets even more complicated for Linux.

Its more a case of what the OS was designed to use ... it'd probably be easier on a 
mac which was designed with only 1 mouse button where the only thing you'd miss is the 
independant mouse move (you'll still have your single button clicks and could emulate 
drags).


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Re: [LIB] Touchscreens for Librettos - alternatives

2002-03-13 Thread Raymond

Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 09:39:53 +0800
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Touchscreens for Librettos - alternatives

At 08:20 AM 13/03/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:11 +
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>Hi, all, 
>other alternatives are light pens, to turn any display into a touchscreen system. 

Umm ... AFAIK light pens won't work on LCD displays because there is no raster to key 
onto. 


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[LIB] WindowsME

2002-03-13 Thread Renita Herrmann

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:22:43 -0800
From: "Renita Herrmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: WindowsME

I have Windows ME on my Dell 8200 and it makes me curse at least a dozen times an 
hour. It won't even do Control-Alt-Delete. The windows appear and won't go away, or 
they go away and leave a white blank. Sometimes it freezes on Control-Alt-Delete 
without doing anything, and I have to hit the button to turn it off. It SUCKS. Big 
time. I would replace it but it's under warantee and I don't want to touch it yet. 
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Re: renaming "Program Files" folder [LIB]

2002-03-13 Thread Renita Herrmann

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:00:51 -0800
From: "Renita Herrmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: renaming "Program Files" folder [LIB]

SNURFING! I remember that. A plywood board with (or without, if you were
really crazed) on the nose, straight edges...You could KILL yourself really
easily.
- Original Message -
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:20 AM
Subject: Re: renaming "Program Files" folder [LIB]


> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 08:11:33 +
> From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: renaming "Program Files" folder [LIB]
>
> >Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 15:29:55 +0800
> >From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >At 11:10 PM 8/03/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> > >From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > >>Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 13:40:26 +0800
> > >>From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>Subject: Re: renaming "Program Files" folder [LIB]
> > >>
> > >>...I just get into the habit of treating partition conversions as
a
> >taboo subject ever since a number of my colleagues ruined their
> >installations by doing so.<< <
>
> > >Heh... I remember a while back your mentioning your aversion to using
> >Partition Magic to make very many partition changes Raymond.  You may
have
> >had a nervous breakdowns if you watched me messing around numerous times
> >with my partitions on quite a few HDDs in the past couple of years, and
> >really often these days on the 20GB HDD.< <
>
> >I dare say I have used powerquest to resize the odd partition on this
libby
> >(after making real sure I could afford to lose the stuff on it) ...<
>
> > >  I was a bit scared of screwing up things in the beginning, but after
> >one HUGE mess at the beginning, and having Powerquest walk me through the
> >fix, I've become quite at home resizing, moving, deleting and copying
> >partitions to make the operation of the system more functional.  Ghost
> >everything first, and all you can really loose is the HDD (which hasn't
> >happened to me... hope I don't need to add 'yet' ;-P).  And HDDs are so
> >darned cheap (at least in terms of the US economy) and available... slap
> >another in, Ghost back the partitions, and your back in the fast lane.< <
>
> >Umm ... how can you damage the HDD using pmagic?<
>
> I'm not quite sure just what part of the galaxy I was astral projecting to
> when I wrote that Raymond...   Maybe it was back to when I was fixing a
> friend's desktop that had a huge collection of viruses on it.  I don't
think
> I was using PM, but I did something like deleting partitions or
reformatting
> or something... and all of a sudden I had NO access to the HDD anymore.  I
> think it was Neil who suggested I see if the manufacturer had a HDD
> diagnostic utility.  Found that and ran it but it couldn't see the
drive
> either.  I wondered if one or all of the viruses had somehow caused
> mechanical failure, or my deleting partitions or reformatting or whatever
it
> was... though most people said that was impossible.  But somehow that
drive
> went south AFTER it booted and was in the process of working fine.
>
> Now if you ask, ">Umm ... how can you damage the HDD >DATA< using pmagic?"
> ... I'd have a nice list for you that probably conjures up visions of why
> people report things like:
>
> "...I just get into the habit of treating partition conversions as a
> taboo subject ever since a number of my colleagues ruined their
> installations by doing so."
>
> Sound familiar?  ;-P
>
> > >They said I was nuts getting invloved in childish pastimes like
> >skateboarding and snurfing (the precursor to snowboarding) back in the
> >early 70s... and laughed when I said people would be buying their music
> >from a computer interface to a network... so I'm pretty used to people
> >thinking I'm nuts!< <
>
> >I still think anyone who buys music from a computer interfaced to a
network
> >is nuts but thats just me ... heh<
>
> At some point ASCAP will wake up and find out that they can still make a
> bigger killing at selling music online than they ever did at selling CDs,
> cassettes, 8 track carts, LPs and everything else combined... WHILE huge
> number of people trade tracks at the same time!
>
> > >GO CROCK HUNTER!!
>
> >OK you really ARE nuts. That guy is an idiot.
>
> Thank you... Thank you. (Idiot proudly bows to appropriately stupefied and
> horrified audience...)
>
>
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Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

2002-03-13 Thread Renita Herrmann

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:48:29 -0800
From: "Renita Herrmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

Have any of you gotten ahold of the new Libbies? I just bought an L3 and am
on my way out the door to pick it up (just down the street here in San
Francisco...). Renita
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Subject: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000


> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 14:51:47 -0300
> From: "Leonardo Armesto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Lib 100CT / Win2000
>
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to try to install Windows 2000 in my Lib 100CT with 2Gb and 64Mb
RAM. Do you recommend me to do that..??? Is it posible..???
Advantages..???!
>
> thanks a lot.
>
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RE: [LIB] Dual / triple boot

2002-03-13 Thread phillip ramirez

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:04:28 -0600
From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] Dual / triple boot

Haha its cool.. Sometimes we all need a maual adjustment by foot.. ;-)..
I know I have thought about using an emu to load a virtual mac maching
on my intel. Just to say I have done it.. ;-)

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Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:31 PM
To: Libretto
Subject: RE: [LIB] Dual / triple boot


Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 20:23:27 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] Dual / triple boot

>Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 08:04:21 -0600
>From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Yea just do a search on mac emu.. Should be able to find it..

Sometimes it takes a kick in the butt to get me to do a simple two word 
search like that on Google.  I was entering things like, "mac OS
emulation 
for PC" and coning up with a lot of PC emulation for Macs.

But searching for "Mac emulation", as you suggested, I found:

   http://mes.emuunlim.com/

...near the top of the list in fine Google fashion!  Top of the page
there 
sez, "..using the Mac emulators Fusion-PC V2.0 and Basilisk II (which 
emulate the Mac OS on PC computers)."

Thanks for the adjustment Phillip!

Matt







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>
>Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 06:54:13 +
>From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [LIB] Dual / triple boot
>
> >Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 15:10:00 -0800 (PST)
> >From: David Chien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >   ME/2000/XP/Linux with VirtualPC or VMWare workstation PC 
> >emulators. Then you can run OS within OS all day long, even having 
> >multiple OSs running at once.<
>
>
>Ever heard of software that emulates a Mac OS on a PC David?  I don't 
>know how many people have replied, "Why would you want to do that?"  A
>perfectly
>valid response.  But I have a teacher friend who'd like to load his Mac
>grading software onto his home PC so he can bring his school Mac (OLD
>mac at
>that) files from school, work on them on his PC, and free up HIS old
>home
>Mac to use as a desparately needed boat anchor.
>
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Re: [LIB] Lib 1100 panel-mounted mouse - how quick and

2002-03-13 Thread bernhard.schmitz

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:30 +
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 1100 panel-mounted mouse - how quick and

|
|   Your Jornada runs WinCE.  The entire OS is designed to do away
|with concepts such as right-clicking and other option clicks.  

By the way, I can use the right click option with the "alt"+stylus_pick.

The drag
|option vs. a click is usually resolved on systems by either using a double
|click, or detecting a click vs. a hold.  My old synaptics touchpad on my
|previous laptop had a "bounce" option to handle drag actions, but this too
|involves something more complex than a simple "dumb" stylus control.
|   The short and simple answer is that your PDA is designed to only
|need a single input mode, while the desktop version of Windows is not.
|
|CK

CK, I can understand, that the WinCE is not complex enough. But I can imagine, that 
drivers could be available to make the touchscreen applications input compatible to 
the Windows OS.

What are the differences?
On the CE surface, a moving cursor is not visible. Pointing to something on CE is like 
moving the cursor to this point and left-clicking. Double clicking is double clicking 
on every OS. "alt"+pick is like right-clicking.

In my opinion, with the right driver, the buttons could be helpful, but should not be 
necessary.


|
|On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|
|> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:46 +
|> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|> Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 1100 panel-mounted mouse - how quick and
|> 
|> Raymond, you wrote:
|> 
|> Actually I'd have to disagree ... just because we've used pens for so long doesn't 
|> mean its necessarily the right way of using your muscles (notice all those pens out 
|> there that are designed to help muscle cramps for instance). Besides which using a 
|> Windows PC requires at least 4 input signals, (pointer move, pointer drag, pointer 
|> action, pointer secondary action), at least 3 for a Mac and at least 5 for an X 
|> interface. A pen by itself can really only provide one (hence why the Palmax has 
|> buttons on the rear left of the panel and other tablet-pen type devices have 
|buttons 
|> on the pen itself, a situation that isn't really terrifically ergonomic as the 
|> forefinger is the only one that can really press buttons in a pen situation and 
|that 
|> affects accuracy). 
|> 
|> Raymond,
|> 
|> my Jornada uses a stylus with no other signals than the pressing point on the 
|touchscreen, and I do not need buttons. I am not experienced with the technics, but 
|why do one need the buttons of the Palmax, when one can press simply the pen on the 
|screen like I do with my Jornada?
|> 
|> Bernhard
|> 
|> 
|> 
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Re: [LIB] Touchscreens for Librettos - alternatives

2002-03-13 Thread Pres Waterman

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:32:34 -0500
From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Touchscreens for Librettos - alternatives

>
> Sorry, I over-optimized it and deleted too much. :-)
>
> Pres, you wanted to know in an earlier post in this topic, what eye gaze
systems are.


I really don't recall making that query. Sometimes, when people quote, an
earlier comment one person makes ends up appearing to be from someone
else... I dunno, maybe I got CRS... Can't Remember !

Thanks

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Re: [LIB] Touchscreen Kits

2002-03-13 Thread bernhard.schmitz

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:07 +
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Touchscreen Kits

Please see http://www.ezscreen.com/touchscreen.html for further information.

Does anybody has the original measures of the Libs display sizes? Maybe the slightly 
over-sized touchscreen kits could be right-cut or could be enough.

EZSCREEN
part number external dims.  active area dims.   thickness   for display 
size

EZ058L  138 x 108mm 116 x 87mm  1.3mm   5.8" diagonal
ez065L  151 x 101mm 137 x 88mm  3.0mm   6.5" diagonal
EZ074L  181 x 137mm 152 x 114mm 1.3mm   7.4 diagonal
EZ084L  194 x 144mm 170 x 128mm 1.3mm   8.4" diagonal
EZ094   226 x 171mm 194 x 146mm 1.3mm   9.4" diagonal
EZ104L  234 x 181mm 207 x 154mm 1.3mm   10.4" diagonal
EZ121L  269 x 202mm 242 x 180mm 1.3mm   12.1" diagonal


Bernhard

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|Bcc:   
|Betreff:   AW: Re: [LIB] Touchscreen Kits
|Datum: Mittwoch, 13. März 2002 18:28
|
|EZSCREEN http://www.ezscreen.com promise something, but have not responded yet.
|
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||Betreff:  Re: [LIB] Touchscreen Kits
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||whats this?does someone make a touchscreen for a libretto?Do they do a 6.1 
||inch one?
||-calvin
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Re: [LIB] Touchscreens for Librettos - alternatives

2002-03-13 Thread bernhard.schmitz

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:16 +
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Sorry, I over-optimized it and deleted too much. :-)

Pres, you wanted to know in an earlier post in this topic, what eye gaze systems are.

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|Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:26:51 -0500
|From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
|Subject: Re: [LIB] Touchscreens for Librettos - alternatives
|
|Hi. What is this in response to?
|
|Thanks
|
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|Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:15 PM
|Subject: Re: [LIB] Touchscreens for Librettos - alternatives
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|> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:05 +
|> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|> Subject: Re: [LIB] Touchscreens for Librettos - alternatives
|>
|> Pres,
|>
|> eye gaze systems, which observe the users eye movements:
|>
|> for example:
|> Quick Glance
|> by EyeTech Digital Systems, Inc.
|> How does Quick Glance work?
|> Camera mounted on computer monitor is focused on user's eye.
|> Quick Glance determines where user is looking--the gaze point Cursur is
|placed at the gaze point.
|> "Mouse clicks" are done with a slow eye blink, an eye dwell, or a hardware
|switch.
|>
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Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

2002-03-13 Thread Lawrence Young

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:18:04 -0500
From: "Lawrence Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000


- Original Message -
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To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000


> Does W2000 have a utility like MSCONFIG in W98?  I've used that a lot to
> disable all the many applications that insist on setting themselves to
load
> at boot.  You end up with dozens of little icons in the system tray on the
> right end of the status bar that suck the life out of the system
resources.

Nope. The thing I mentioned are services that usually does not display
anything and you need to use Service Control Panel to disable them.

> Also, there must be a place in W2000 where the system resources are
> displayed immediately following a boot to the desktop.  IN W98, you can
> right click My Computer, and go to the Performance tab.
>

Much easier than Win98. Just right click on task bar bring up the Task
Manager. It shows all the information there. 100 times more useful than
anyhting you can find in Win98.

Win98 also suffers from the 64 KB limit on system GDI resource and USER
resource (64KB for GDI and 64KB for USER in Win98. Win95 only have 64KB
total for both USER and GDI). A buggy software can easily cause these
resource to leak and when all the 64KB are used up, system crashed without
warning. WinNT/2000 does not have these limitations. As a result, there is
no way in NT/2000 to check how much GDI and USER resource is used or how
much is free.





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Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

2002-03-13 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 20:40:35 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

>Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:26:29 -0500
>From: "Lawrence Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
>>>Even the machine is complete shutdown, there is still some power drain 
>>>from battery(mystery of every Libretto). You can do a comparison 
>>>youself.<<<

> > Resource hog is being kind. 64Mb is simply not enough memory for it to 
>run well. Please enlighten me as to what you have removed to trim it down 
>and make it more responsive, as I would love to follow suit.< <

>Basically it involves stop/remove some background services that aren't
>really useful for a machine like Libretto. Do a search on the internet you 
>will find many places listing tips of doing so.<

Does W2000 have a utility like MSCONFIG in W98?  I've used that a lot to 
disable all the many applications that insist on setting themselves to load 
at boot.  You end up with dozens of little icons in the system tray on the 
right end of the status bar that suck the life out of the system resources.

Though you're no doubt talking about "services" that W2000 installs that 
aren't needed, right?  If W2000 has something similar to MSCONFIG, I wonder 
if those services would be in there, and easily disabled.

Also, there must be a place in W2000 where the system resources are 
displayed immediately following a boot to the desktop.  IN W98, you can 
right click My Computer, and go to the Performance tab.

With W98 on the L70, I like to keep EVERYTHING from being booted except 
explorer, systray, and the sound driver.  Anything above 90% system 
resources after full boot is great.  I usually run at 95%.  Would think it 
would be a similar process getting W2000 to run on a L100.

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RE: [LIB] Dual / triple boot

2002-03-13 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 20:23:27 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] Dual / triple boot

>Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 08:04:21 -0600
>From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Yea just do a search on mac emu.. Should be able to find it..

Sometimes it takes a kick in the butt to get me to do a simple two word 
search like that on Google.  I was entering things like, "mac OS emulation 
for PC" and coning up with a lot of PC emulation for Macs.

But searching for "Mac emulation", as you suggested, I found:

   http://mes.emuunlim.com/

...near the top of the list in fine Google fashion!  Top of the page there 
sez, "..using the Mac emulators Fusion-PC V2.0 and Basilisk II (which 
emulate the Mac OS on PC computers)."

Thanks for the adjustment Phillip!

Matt







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>Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 06:54:13 +
>From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [LIB] Dual / triple boot
>
> >Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 15:10:00 -0800 (PST)
> >From: David Chien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >   ME/2000/XP/Linux with VirtualPC or VMWare workstation PC emulators.
> >Then you can run OS within OS all day long, even having multiple OSs
> >running at once.<
>
>
>Ever heard of software that emulates a Mac OS on a PC David?  I don't
>know
>how many people have replied, "Why would you want to do that?"  A
>perfectly
>valid response.  But I have a teacher friend who'd like to load his Mac
>grading software onto his home PC so he can bring his school Mac (OLD
>mac at
>that) files from school, work on them on his PC, and free up HIS old
>home
>Mac to use as a desparately needed boat anchor.
>
>Matt
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Re: PicaView - solution/recommendation [LIB]

2002-03-13 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:57:21 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PicaView - solution/recommendation [LIB]

I can see where if you're only processing a couple of graphic images, that 
it's a certainly lot quicker to use a little app like PicaView that loads 
quick, and/or works automatically from right-click.

But I've had Photoshop v4.0 installed on my 50CT for a couple years, and 
find that actually loads faster on the L50 w/32MB RAM than v6.0 on a P350 
w/120MB!  At least with the configurations of each as they are. And once 
loaded, does most work on Lib/web sized grahics pretty darned quickly.

There is so much you can do with Photoshop to enhance graphics beyond 
adjusting brightness & contrast, hue, sharpness, size, canvas size, 
resolution, file type, which are some of the basic functions I use on a 
regular basis.

Then there's the batch file capability that lets you rotate a whole folder 
full of files automatically, as well as set a gamut of processes 
automatically.  It's also really nice to have a history undo feature when 
doing a lot of touching up, and layers to let you experiment with adding 
things without altering the base layer.

My point again being that a bigger app like this may take a few seconds 
longer than most to load, but when loaded, works fairly quickly and 
efficiently on modest sized graphics with far more graphics tools at your 
disposal if your inclined than smaller ones.  At least for people who want 
to do a bit more touch up work.  Even Paintshop Pro does a nice job.

Though I admit the little apps are convenient for many processes though.  
When I was maintaining a website, I used to use GifCon a lot.  A really 
nice, quick little piece of software to make a designated color transparent 
to make the backgound show through.

Matt


>Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 15:26:08 +0700
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: PicaView - solution/recommendation  [LIB]
>
> > Good program.  Recommended along with 2.41 - 2.43 of ACDSee.
>
>Just to clarify!
>
>I'm recommending PicaView 1.31 as being:
>1) super-convenient (view/rotate from Win.Explorer "File"/right-click menu)
>2) a 943KB download (and a correspondingly "minimal" installation)
>3) freeware (let me know if you lost your copy of the relevant magazine...)
>
>---
>
>The current version - PicaView 2.0 - is, IMHO, nowhere near as convenient 
>in
>day-to-day use for the specific tasks discussed (ie quick viewing and
>lossless rotation of .JPGs) as the 1.3x versions.
>
>PicaView 2.0 has also bloated to a whopping 5.19Mb download - this seems to
>be because PicaView has been absorbed into a much larger program, and just
>to get what is now "sawn-off" functionality, you have to download and
>install several megabytes of stuff you are then denied access to.
>
>ACDSee 2.41 - 2.43 is, AFAIK (it's no longer on the ACDsee website - maybe
>it's called ACDSee Classic now) something completely different - it's a
>program you have to run, not an add-on Windows Explorer utility; the latest
>version is 4.0, in various multi-MB guises.
>
>AFAIK, of all the alternatives mentioned above, PicaView 1.30/1.31 is the
>only freeware.


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Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

2002-03-13 Thread fubarlibretto

Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 02:52:59 +0700
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Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

>> Win'2K shuts down a hell of a lot faster than '98 (and more
>> reliably, too).
>
> After seeing this post about timing shutdown of Win2K on a L100 I ran the
> same timings on my L110 with Win2K as was done above with Win98 & Win2K.
> I found that my unit (with the original 4.3G HD and 64mb memory) was up
> and running in 1:25 seconds and shut down in 15 seconds!

So: our times are ~identical, ie same despite 4.3GB / 30GB HDDs
So: Win'2K does boot faster that Win'98 in a 110 Libretto with 64MB RAM...

My Win'2K shutdown is in the order of:-
-- via "Start" menu:- a fraction under 20 seconds in total
-- on/off button:- about 6-7 seconds in total

I say "in total" because the last two or three seconds seem to be down to
the Libretto itself doing whatever it has to physically do to actually power
down and extinguish the lights above the on/off button.




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Re: [LIB] Touchscreens for Librettos - alternatives

2002-03-13 Thread neil barnes

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:32:56
From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Touchscreens for Librettos - alternatives


>Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:26:51 -0500
>From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [LIB] Touchscreens for Librettos - alternatives

>GO BILLS!

Yay! We got the original Pres back. Or the alien imposter got better. Or he 
sold the Tbirds :)

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Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

2002-03-13 Thread Lawrence Young

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:49:51 -0500
From: "Lawrence Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000


- Original Message -
From: "Chester Prudhomme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000


> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 08:27:23 -0800
> From: Chester Prudhomme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:46:03 +0700
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000
>
> > My "comparison" isn't a straight one, however - L110 with 64MB memory:-
> >
> > -- Win'98 on 4.3GB HDD - from memory (timed it once but can't find the
> > original post) - something like 2 minutes and a few odd seconds (2:06
rings
> > a bell)
> >
> > -- Win'2K on 30GB HDD - 90 seconds
> >
> > Win'2K shuts down a hell of a lot faster than '98 (and more reliably,
too).
>
> After seeing this post about timing shutdown of Win2K on a L100 I ran the
same
> timings on my L110 with Win2K as was done above with Win98 & Win2K. I
found that
> my unit (with the original 4.3G HD and 64mb memory) was up and running in
1:25
> seconds and shut down in 15 seconds! I have only had the L110 for a few
weeks
> and am familiar with the Win2K OS from using it on my desktop but I don't
see a
> lot of difference in its speed and facility on the Libretto. Someone
mentioned
> some sites where one can find info about trimming the Win2K OS (and I
would like
> to know more about this) but I can't imagine that it would work that much
more
> efficiently in doing so? Why would 64mb's of memory work with Win2K more
> effectively in a L110 than a L100 - the smaller HD shouldn't have much of
an
> influence at least for booting up - or does it?
>

Shutdown time heavily depends on what kind of software or driver installed.
And also L110 is running at 233MHz while a stock L100 is running at 166MHz.





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Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

2002-03-13 Thread Lawrence Young

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:48:21 -0500
From: "Lawrence Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000


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Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:40 AM
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> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:31:22 -
> From: "Eyetech Technical" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000
>
> > Basically it involves stop/remove some background services that aren't
> > really useful for a machine like Libretto. Do a search on the internet
you
> > will find many places listing tips of doing so.
>
> Does the L100 do DMA HD access, or only PIO?
>
> Cya
>
> Dave
>

All Librettos up to L110 only do PIO not DMA.

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Re: [LIB] Touchscreens for Librettos - alternatives

2002-03-13 Thread Pres Waterman

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:26:51 -0500
From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Touchscreens for Librettos - alternatives

Hi. What is this in response to?

Thanks

Pres Waterman W2PW
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> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:05 +
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
> Pres,
>
> eye gaze systems, which observe the users eye movements:
>
> for example:
> Quick Glance
> by EyeTech Digital Systems, Inc.
> How does Quick Glance work?
> Camera mounted on computer monitor is focused on user's eye.
> Quick Glance determines where user is looking--the gaze point Cursur is
placed at the gaze point.
> "Mouse clicks" are done with a slow eye blink, an eye dwell, or a hardware
switch.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LIB] Lib 1100 panel-mounted mouse - how quick and

2002-03-13 Thread Chris Kalos

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:28:40 -0500 (EST)
From: Chris Kalos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 1100 panel-mounted mouse - how quick and

Your Jornada runs WinCE.  The entire OS is designed to do away
with concepts such as right-clicking and other option clicks.  The drag
option vs. a click is usually resolved on systems by either using a double
click, or detecting a click vs. a hold.  My old synaptics touchpad on my
previous laptop had a "bounce" option to handle drag actions, but this too
involves something more complex than a simple "dumb" stylus control.
The short and simple answer is that your PDA is designed to only
need a single input mode, while the desktop version of Windows is not.

CK

On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:46 +
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 1100 panel-mounted mouse - how quick and
> 
> Raymond, you wrote:
> 
> Actually I'd have to disagree ... just because we've used pens for so long doesn't 
> mean its necessarily the right way of using your muscles (notice all those pens out 
> there that are designed to help muscle cramps for instance). Besides which using a 
> Windows PC requires at least 4 input signals, (pointer move, pointer drag, pointer 
> action, pointer secondary action), at least 3 for a Mac and at least 5 for an X 
> interface. A pen by itself can really only provide one (hence why the Palmax has 
> buttons on the rear left of the panel and other tablet-pen type devices have buttons 
> on the pen itself, a situation that isn't really terrifically ergonomic as the 
> forefinger is the only one that can really press buttons in a pen situation and that 
> affects accuracy). 
> 
> Raymond,
> 
> my Jornada uses a stylus with no other signals than the pressing point on the 
>touchscreen, and I do not need buttons. I am not experienced with the technics, but 
>why do one need the buttons of the Palmax, when one can press simply the pen on the 
>screen like I do with my Jornada?
> 
> Bernhard
> 
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Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

2002-03-13 Thread Eyetech Technical

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:23:02 -
From: "Eyetech Technical" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

> From: Chester Prudhomme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000
>
> After seeing this post about timing shutdown of Win2K on a L100 I ran the
same
> my unit (with the original 4.3G HD and 64mb memory) was up and running in
1:25
> seconds and shut down in 15 seconds!

I just shutdown my L100 @ 266MHx IBM 20Gb Travelstar drive.
With no other programs running, it took 24 seconds from shutdown click, to
led off.

Booting after OS menu to network login and no HD activity took 3mins50sec
although I could have logged in after 2mins35sec

>From that login to desktop with no HD activity it takes 1min52sec

There is nothing in the startup and very little installed either, only
partition magic, IE & OE, InnoculateIT (now no longer supported) and various
service packs and hotfixes.

The flip side is that the speaker has started working for some strange
reason.
I have shut it down before too.

Any ideas or is this alright for "speed" ?

Cya

Dave




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Re: [LIB] Touchscreens for Librettos - alternatives

2002-03-13 Thread bernhard . schmitz

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:55 +
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Touchscreens for Librettos - alternatives

Shultz, you wrote:

I've used one of these with my Lib before (and sometimes with my desktop 
too).  The finger trackball has a couple of advantages:
[...]

Disadvantages:
1. You must put it down to type, and pick it back up to mouse.  This quickly 
annoys if you have to switch often.

Shultz,

as I understood the picture, I do not have to put it down. 

Could you please tell me, why it is a must? 

If yes, I guarantee you, that I would be very annoyed because I have to switch very 
often. Your response is very helpful.

Bernhard




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Re: [LIB] Touchscreens for Librettos - alternatives

2002-03-13 Thread bernhard . schmitz

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:05 +
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Pres,

eye gaze systems, which observe the users eye movements:

for example:
Quick Glance
by EyeTech Digital Systems, Inc. 
How does Quick Glance work? 
Camera mounted on computer monitor is focused on user's eye. 
Quick Glance determines where user is looking--the gaze point Cursur is placed at the 
gaze point. 
"Mouse clicks" are done with a slow eye blink, an eye dwell, or a hardware switch. 





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Re: [LIB] Lib 1100 panel-mounted mouse - how quick and

2002-03-13 Thread bernhard . schmitz

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:46 +
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 1100 panel-mounted mouse - how quick and

Raymond, you wrote:

Actually I'd have to disagree ... just because we've used pens for so long doesn't 
mean its necessarily the right way of using your muscles (notice all those pens out 
there that are designed to help muscle cramps for instance). Besides which using a 
Windows PC requires at least 4 input signals, (pointer move, pointer drag, pointer 
action, pointer secondary action), at least 3 for a Mac and at least 5 for an X 
interface. A pen by itself can really only provide one (hence why the Palmax has 
buttons on the rear left of the panel and other tablet-pen type devices have buttons 
on the pen itself, a situation that isn't really terrifically ergonomic as the 
forefinger is the only one that can really press buttons in a pen situation and that 
affects accuracy). 

Raymond,

my Jornada uses a stylus with no other signals than the pressing point on the 
touchscreen, and I do not need buttons. I am not experienced with the technics, but 
why do one need the buttons of the Palmax, when one can press simply the pen on the 
screen like I do with my Jornada?

Bernhard




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Re: [LIB] Lib 1100 panel-mounted mouse - how quick and

2002-03-13 Thread bernhard.schmitz

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:22 +
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I thank you all for your valuable informations! 
Bernhard




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Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

2002-03-13 Thread Eyetech Technical

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> Basically it involves stop/remove some background services that aren't
> really useful for a machine like Libretto. Do a search on the internet you
> will find many places listing tips of doing so.

Does the L100 do DMA HD access, or only PIO?

Cya

Dave




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Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

2002-03-13 Thread Chester Prudhomme

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 08:27:23 -0800
From: Chester Prudhomme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:46:03 +0700
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

> My "comparison" isn't a straight one, however - L110 with 64MB memory:-
>
> -- Win'98 on 4.3GB HDD - from memory (timed it once but can't find the
> original post) - something like 2 minutes and a few odd seconds (2:06 rings
> a bell)
>
> -- Win'2K on 30GB HDD - 90 seconds
>
> Win'2K shuts down a hell of a lot faster than '98 (and more reliably, too).

After seeing this post about timing shutdown of Win2K on a L100 I ran the same
timings on my L110 with Win2K as was done above with Win98 & Win2K. I found that
my unit (with the original 4.3G HD and 64mb memory) was up and running in 1:25
seconds and shut down in 15 seconds! I have only had the L110 for a few weeks
and am familiar with the Win2K OS from using it on my desktop but I don't see a
lot of difference in its speed and facility on the Libretto. Someone mentioned
some sites where one can find info about trimming the Win2K OS (and I would like
to know more about this) but I can't imagine that it would work that much more
efficiently in doing so? Why would 64mb's of memory work with Win2K more
effectively in a L110 than a L100 - the smaller HD shouldn't have much of an
influence at least for booting up - or does it?

Chester




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Re: [LIB] Touchscreen Kits

2002-03-13 Thread Vinokirk

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 11:23:31 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Touchscreen Kits

whats this?does someone make a touchscreen for a libretto?Do they do a 6.1 
inch one?
-calvin




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Re: [LIB] Touchscreen Kits

2002-03-13 Thread bernhard.schmitz

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:06 +
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Subject: Re: [LIB] Touchscreen Kits

Dear all,

what do you think of the EZSCREEN touchscreen kits? Have you already contacted them to 
inquire?

I have  not received a response yet. I am recommending to everybody using a Libretto 
and interested in a touchscreen kit to email to EZSCREEN in order to ask for a 
touchscreen kit.

I deem it best to demonstrate to EZSCREEN, that there is demand they should respond 
with supply.

Best regards
Bernhard

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Datum:  Donnerstag, 7. März 2002 12:34

Dear Madams and Sirs,

on your web site http://www.ezscreen.com you state

"Using our kits allows you to add our resistive touchscreen interface to virtually any 
LCD display, desktop, laptop or palmtop.
We can produce virtually any size touchscreen, please inquire for  custom units. 
Tooling is inexpensive and prototyping is quick!"

I like to buy one of the used Libretto 1100 models with 7.1'' 800x600 LCD without 
touchscreen; the touchscreen is essential.

Is it possible to cut the 7.4'' touchscreen to 7.1''?

Could you please tell us, how much costs 
- a touchscreen kit for the Libretto 1100 models with 7.1'' 800x600 LCD
- your service to replace the LCD with the touchscreen kit if you offer this
- H/S to Germany
- which prerequisites else

And there are more people out there in the Libretto mailing lists, who like to get a 
touchscreen for their Librettos, and the older models 50, 70, 100, 110 too! How much 
costs:
- a touchscreen kit for the used Toshiba Libretto models 100/110 with 7.1'' 800x600 LCD
- a touchscreen kit for the used Toshiba Libretto models 1010 with 6.1'' 640x480 LCD 

We are excited to hear from you! 

Best Regards

Bernhard Schmitz
D-65933 Frankfurt/Main
Germany




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Re: [LIB] Touchscreens for Librettos - alternatives

2002-03-13 Thread bernhard . schmitz

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:11 +
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Hi, all, 
other alternatives are light pens, to turn any display into a touchscreen system. 

I thank you all for your valuable informations! 
Bernhard




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Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

2002-03-13 Thread Chris Kalos

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 11:10:31 -0500 (EST)
From: Chris Kalos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

I just installed Win2000 not too long ago, and while it seems a
tad more sluggish, it's not horrible.  I have the general feeling of
security knowing that I can get my work done without leaking memory like
98 did (long story, mostly linked to an HDD upgrade that wasn't done
properly.)  This is on a 110, mind you, but it's not like a slower CPU
means that you're going to be any less stable, just not as powerful as the
110.
Anyway, I futzed around quite a bit with Partition Magic to set
aside completely unpartitioned space at around the 8GB limit.  However,
Win2000 refuses to properly hibernate.  I've also been having the infamous
CMOS battery error all the time, even after leaving the Libby running for
a full week (upside down to prevent meltdown, at that!)  Standby mode
works flawlessly, but hibernation does not.  Win2000 reports a proper
hibernation, and then on the next powerup, it goes through a standard boot
cycle instead.  Is this related to my clock battery problem?


Thanks,
CK

On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Lawrence Young wrote:

> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:26:29 -0500
> From: "Lawrence Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Eyetech Technical" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 10:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000
> 
> 
> > > I don't use hibernation that often as I see in standby mode, L100 does
> not
> > > consum any more power than shutdown or hibernate.
> >
> > Standby mode. Is this where the LED flashes ever so slowly, using some
> > power, hibernation being with the machine off not using any power?
> 
> Even the machine is complete shutdown, there is still some power drain from
> battery(mystery of every Libretto). You can do a comparison youself.
> 
> > Resource hog is being kind. 64Mb is simply not enough memory for it to run
> > well.
> > Please enlighten me as to what you have removed to trim it down and make
> it
> > more responsive, as I would love to follow suit.
> >
> 
> Basically it involves stop/remove some background services that aren't
> really useful for a machine like Libretto. Do a search on the internet you
> will find many places listing tips of doing so.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

2002-03-13 Thread Lawrence Young

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:26:29 -0500
From: "Lawrence Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000


- Original Message -
From: "Eyetech Technical" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000


> > I don't use hibernation that often as I see in standby mode, L100 does
not
> > consum any more power than shutdown or hibernate.
>
> Standby mode. Is this where the LED flashes ever so slowly, using some
> power, hibernation being with the machine off not using any power?

Even the machine is complete shutdown, there is still some power drain from
battery(mystery of every Libretto). You can do a comparison youself.

> Resource hog is being kind. 64Mb is simply not enough memory for it to run
> well.
> Please enlighten me as to what you have removed to trim it down and make
it
> more responsive, as I would love to follow suit.
>

Basically it involves stop/remove some background services that aren't
really useful for a machine like Libretto. Do a search on the internet you
will find many places listing tips of doing so.




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Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

2002-03-13 Thread Eyetech Technical

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 15:11:01 -
From: "Eyetech Technical" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 09:50:27 -0500
> From: "Lawrence Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000
>
> > It is setup to hibernate from Win2000 every time the power button is
> > pressed, and this is relatively quick, however a full reboot takes a
long
> > time, a very long time.
> > The OS itself is quite unresponsive, and its only being used for email
and
> > some web browsing at the moment.
> >
> > Win98 on the other hand is very quick in comparision.
> >
>
> The point of installing Win2000 on L100 is that you rarely need reboot it.
> Last time I booted my L100 is months ago. Try that in your Win98.

Which is the only reason why I would like to keep Win2K on this machine.
(pretty much said all that)
If there was a way of hibernating under Win98 then Id be a happy guy, but
there isnt.


> I don't use hibernation that often as I see in standby mode, L100 does not
> consum any more power than shutdown or hibernate.

Standby mode. Is this where the LED flashes ever so slowly, using some
power, hibernation being with the machine off not using any power?


> It is true win2000 is a
> resource hog compared to win98. But if you know how to trim it down it is
> still quite responsive. However the same can not be said to WinXP. I will
> take Win2000's stability over anything Win9x offers.

Resource hog is being kind. 64Mb is simply not enough memory for it to run
well.
Please enlighten me as to what you have removed to trim it down and make it
more responsive, as I would love to follow suit.

Cya

Dave




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Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

2002-03-13 Thread Lawrence Young

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 09:50:27 -0500
From: "Lawrence Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000


- Original Message -
From: "Eyetech Technical" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 5:40 AM
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000


> It is setup to hibernate from Win2000 every time the power button is
> pressed, and this is relatively quick, however a full reboot takes a long
> time, a very long time.
> The OS itself is quite unresponsive, and its only being used for email and
> some web browsing at the moment.
>
> Win98 on the other hand is very quick in comparision.
>

The point of installing Win2000 on L100 is that you rarely need reboot it.
Last time I booted my L100 is months ago. Try that in your Win98.

I don't use hibernation that often as I see in standby mode, L100 does not
consum any more power than shutdown or hibernate. It is true win2000 is a
resource hog compared to win98. But if you know how to trim it down it is
still quite responsive. However the same can not be said to WinXP. I will
take Win2000's stability over anything Win9x offers.







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Re: [LIB] Re: [LIBRETTO] What OS for 50CT

2002-03-13 Thread Raymond

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 22:48:14 +0800
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Re: [LIBRETTO] What OS for 50CT

At 03:10 AM 13/03/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:04:43 +0100
>From: "Zoltan Gyorgypal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [LIBRETTO] What OS for 50CT
>
>> WinME: Nonononononoo I just won't
>
>Just curious - what's wrong with WinME in comparison with Win98?

In my experience with various operating systems on various laptops (486's to PIII's, 
Win95 to Win2k) WinME would probably have to be the LEAST stable, EVEN IF THE LAPTOP 
COMES PRE-LOADED WITH IT!. The MOST stable would be Win2k then NT (the other way round 
for older laptops with poor driver support or low specs). Then Win98SE, Win95OSR2, 
Win98(FE), Win98A then WinME right down the bottom.

Of course there's always Linux ;-)


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RE: [LIB] Dual / triple boot

2002-03-13 Thread phillip ramirez

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 08:04:21 -0600
From: "phillip ramirez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] Dual / triple boot

Yea just do a search on mac emu.. Should be able to find it.. 

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Hanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 1:01 AM
To: Libretto
Subject: Re: [LIB] Dual / triple boot


Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 06:54:13 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Dual / triple boot

>Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 15:10:00 -0800 (PST)
>From: David Chien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>   ME/2000/XP/Linux with VirtualPC or VMWare workstation PC emulators.
>Then you can run OS within OS all day long, even having multiple OSs 
>running at once.<


Ever heard of software that emulates a Mac OS on a PC David?  I don't
know 
how many people have replied, "Why would you want to do that?"  A
perfectly 
valid response.  But I have a teacher friend who'd like to load his Mac 
grading software onto his home PC so he can bring his school Mac (OLD
mac at 
that) files from school, work on them on his PC, and free up HIS old
home 
Mac to use as a desparately needed boat anchor.

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Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

2002-03-13 Thread fubarlibretto

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:46:03 +0700
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Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

> This L100 (running at 266MHZ mind you) has a dual boot of both Win98 and
> Win2000.
> I will be removing Win2000 and using Win98 for myself.
>
> It is setup to hibernate from Win2000 every time the power button is
> pressed, and this is relatively quick, however a full reboot takes a long
> time, a very long time.

My "comparison" isn't a straight one, however - L110 with 64MB memory:-

-- Win'98 on 4.3GB HDD - from memory (timed it once but can't find the
original post) - something like 2 minutes and a few odd seconds (2:06 rings
a bell)

-- Win'2K on 30GB HDD - 90 seconds

Win'2K shuts down a hell of a lot faster than '98 (and more reliably, too).

> The OS itself is quite unresponsive, and its only being used for email and
> some web browsing at the moment.
>
> Win98 on the other hand is very quick in comparision.

I'm finding things are about the same (I'd expected some things to be slower
but that is certainly not what i'm now experiencing), but things don't slow
down anywhere near as much when there's "too much" going on or something
goes pear shaped.

> I take it that it is impossible to upgrade the memory past 64Mb ?
> Does the BIOS support more than 64Mb ?
> What about piggybacking more chips on top of the expansion ones, as
Win2000
> really could do with 128Mb.

Count me in if you find a way...  :-)




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[LIB] Re: [LIBRETTO] What OS for 50CT

2002-03-13 Thread Zoltan Gyorgypal

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:04:43 +0100
From: "Zoltan Gyorgypal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIBRETTO] What OS for 50CT

> WinME: Nonononononoo I just won't

Just curious - what's wrong with WinME in comparison with Win98?

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Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

2002-03-13 Thread Eyetech Technical

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:32:28 -
From: "Eyetech Technical" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000

> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 14:21:17 +0700
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [LIB] Lib 100CT / Win2000
>
> > I'd like to try to install Windows 2000 in my Lib 100CT with 2Gb and
64Mb
> RAM.
> > Do you recommend me to do that..??? Is it posible..???  Advantages..???!
>
> I've had Win'98 on my 110 for almost two years, and just moved up to a
> bigger HDD and Win'2K and I'm very pleased with it. I really like it. But
I
> never had a 100 and my old HDD was 4.3GB so my experience is not
especially
> relevant to you.

This L100 (running at 266MHZ mind you) has a dual boot of both Win98 and
Win2000.
I will be removing Win2000 and using Win98 for myself.

It is setup to hibernate from Win2000 every time the power button is
pressed, and this is relatively quick, however a full reboot takes a long
time, a very long time.
The OS itself is quite unresponsive, and its only being used for email and
some web browsing at the moment.

Win98 on the other hand is very quick in comparision.

Another point is that for some reason the sound doesnt work properly under
Win2000, although this seems to just be my problem.


a 100 (not a 110)
> -- get a bigger HDD too
> -- overclock your 100
>
> If you can't get the first, and you rule out the other two, then my best
> guess would be that you will probably find your system as it stands now
will
> struggle with Win'2K.

Its slow. Its slow with the machine overclocked to 266MHz.

I take it that it is impossible to upgrade the memory past 64Mb ?
Does the BIOS support more than 64Mb ?
What about piggybacking more chips on top of the expansion ones, as Win2000
really could do with 128Mb.

HTH

Dave





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Re: PicaView - solution/recommendation [LIB]

2002-03-13 Thread fubarlibretto

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 15:26:08 +0700
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> Good program.  Recommended along with 2.41 - 2.43 of ACDSee.

Just to clarify!

I'm recommending PicaView 1.31 as being:
1) super-convenient (view/rotate from Win.Explorer "File"/right-click menu)
2) a 943KB download (and a correspondingly "minimal" installation)
3) freeware (let me know if you lost your copy of the relevant magazine...)

---

The current version - PicaView 2.0 - is, IMHO, nowhere near as convenient in
day-to-day use for the specific tasks discussed (ie quick viewing and
lossless rotation of .JPGs) as the 1.3x versions.

PicaView 2.0 has also bloated to a whopping 5.19Mb download - this seems to
be because PicaView has been absorbed into a much larger program, and just
to get what is now "sawn-off" functionality, you have to download and
install several megabytes of stuff you are then denied access to.

ACDSee 2.41 - 2.43 is, AFAIK (it's no longer on the ACDsee website - maybe
it's called ACDSee Classic now) something completely different - it's a
program you have to run, not an add-on Windows Explorer utility; the latest
version is 4.0, in various multi-MB guises.

AFAIK, of all the alternatives mentioned above, PicaView 1.30/1.31 is the
only freeware.




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Re: [LIB] Idiot posts Sound recording software for L70? to wrong address

2002-03-13 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 08:17:25 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Idiot posts Sound recording software for L70? to wrong address


You're right Raymond!  I'll get the hang of this addressing email thingy at 
some point (hopefully before the next car runs me over) :-0


>Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 07:38:59 +
>From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Sound recording software for L70?
>
>Oops... Sorry Nick!  I clicked on the wrong message to reply to. :-)
>
>Luckily my original message was still in a file on my HDD when I clicked 
>BACK a few times to retrieve it, and post it off to the list.
>
>Guess Neil is going to get a copy of Mandrake off to you, huh?  A pound or 
>so to post from there will be way cheaper than $7 or so USD from 
>here...though I'd be more than happy to get it out.  I'm curious as to how 
>Neil caught that you're over there too!
>
>Shmatt... ;-P


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Re: renaming "Program Files" folder [LIB]

2002-03-13 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 08:11:33 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: renaming "Program Files" folder [LIB]

>Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 15:29:55 +0800
>From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>At 11:10 PM 8/03/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> >From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >>Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 13:40:26 +0800
> >>From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Subject: Re: renaming "Program Files" folder [LIB]
> >>
> >>...I just get into the habit of treating partition conversions as a 
>taboo subject ever since a number of my colleagues ruined their 
>installations by doing so.<< <

> >Heh... I remember a while back your mentioning your aversion to using 
>Partition Magic to make very many partition changes Raymond.  You may have 
>had a nervous breakdowns if you watched me messing around numerous times 
>with my partitions on quite a few HDDs in the past couple of years, and 
>really often these days on the 20GB HDD.< <

>I dare say I have used powerquest to resize the odd partition on this libby 
>(after making real sure I could afford to lose the stuff on it) ...<

> >  I was a bit scared of screwing up things in the beginning, but after 
>one HUGE mess at the beginning, and having Powerquest walk me through the 
>fix, I've become quite at home resizing, moving, deleting and copying 
>partitions to make the operation of the system more functional.  Ghost 
>everything first, and all you can really loose is the HDD (which hasn't 
>happened to me... hope I don't need to add 'yet' ;-P).  And HDDs are so 
>darned cheap (at least in terms of the US economy) and available... slap 
>another in, Ghost back the partitions, and your back in the fast lane.< <

>Umm ... how can you damage the HDD using pmagic?<

I'm not quite sure just what part of the galaxy I was astral projecting to 
when I wrote that Raymond...   Maybe it was back to when I was fixing a 
friend's desktop that had a huge collection of viruses on it.  I don't think 
I was using PM, but I did something like deleting partitions or reformatting 
or something... and all of a sudden I had NO access to the HDD anymore.  I 
think it was Neil who suggested I see if the manufacturer had a HDD 
diagnostic utility.  Found that and ran it but it couldn't see the drive 
either.  I wondered if one or all of the viruses had somehow caused 
mechanical failure, or my deleting partitions or reformatting or whatever it 
was... though most people said that was impossible.  But somehow that drive 
went south AFTER it booted and was in the process of working fine.

Now if you ask, “>Umm ... how can you damage the HDD >DATA< using pmagic?”  
... I’d have a nice list for you that probably conjures up visions of why 
people report things like:

“...I just get into the habit of treating partition conversions as a 
taboo subject ever since a number of my colleagues ruined their 
installations by doing so.”

Sound familiar?  ;-P

> >They said I was nuts getting invloved in childish pastimes like 
>skateboarding and snurfing (the precursor to snowboarding) back in the 
>early 70s... and laughed when I said people would be buying their music 
>from a computer interface to a network... so I'm pretty used to people 
>thinking I'm nuts!< <

>I still think anyone who buys music from a computer interfaced to a network 
>is nuts but thats just me ... heh<

At some point ASCAP will wake up and find out that they can still make a 
bigger killing at selling music online than they ever did at selling CDs, 
cassettes, 8 track carts, LPs and everything else combined... WHILE huge 
number of people trade tracks at the same time!

> >GO CROCK HUNTER!!

>OK you really ARE nuts. That guy is an idiot.

Thank you... Thank you… (Idiot proudly bows to appropriately stupefied and 
horrified audience...)





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