Re: [LIB] Information On Libretto L1/L2?
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 23:08:45 -0800 (PST) From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Information On Libretto L1/L2? 1. General reactions to them? Interesting, but the use of the Crusoe kills the machine. Would have much prefered a Pentium instead. Just far too slow, IMO, for the upgrade vs. an older Libretto. 2. Compare to other, similarly sized subnotes, e.g. Sony PictureBook Vaio C1? Or to the L3/L5 if that's the competition? Basically, it's just a larger Sony Picturebook at about the same weight, bigger screen that is a touch more comfy to read, a more comfy keyboard to type on, no camera, and about the same slow processor. L3/L5 run faster, but not by much. 3. How powerful or not powerful is a 600MHz Crusoe, anyway?I'm not positive if the L1/L2 maxes at 256 or 384MB RAM. Divide processor speed by 1/2 and you'll get the ballpark Pentium CPU speed equivalent. It's really that slow, and if you've seen them run in real life, you'd really wonder why they'd ever release the Crusoe upon poor users. Push it hard with floating point calculations, and you can just expect it to crawl along like a snail. 4. Are they hard to do clean OS installs and run Win XP on? I'm trying to read through the L1 Yahoo Group board, and keep coming across lots of can't boot from XYZ device and where's the BIOS and help I need ABC driver messages. Shouldn't be. www.toshiba.co.jp has all of the drivers and they should run under Windows XP English or Japanese. But don't have one, so haven't tried here. The missing drivers for English OS primarily concerned the Toshiba ff1100v model line - which had remote control + webcam. 5. Other sources of information? I haven't found nearly as much online information, discussion, or sellers of batteries etc for the L1/L2 as for the L50-L110 range. See my site, links to Japanese Libretto pages. We Are Libretters website will have more info. Otherwise, Nifty Toshiba forums in Japan. use bablefish.altavista.com to translate. because it's a Japanese-only model, don't expect much English-based talk or support here at all. -- www.conics.net would be one place that could get a L1-L5 from Yahoo Auctions or used for you as well as parts. -- In general, you'd have to consider what you're using it for. Here, the Libretto 110 is used as a portable email/websurfing/picture store machine, esp. when travelling. Not very fast, so I've got a desktop rigged for the serious work (seriously, they're really aren't any laptops out there yet that has the speed, storage capacity, etc. of a decent desktop, IMO, at a resonable $1000 price; and no, I'm not about to drop $3k+ on a laptop that depreciates 50%+ per year either). For the web terminal that sits in one spot all the time for web surfing and basic shopping, there's my IBM thinkpad T21. It's got the nicer screen and keyboard (not tiny like the Libretto), so it's easier for longer surfing sessions. I'd love to eventually combine them into a single notebook, but sadly, there hasn't been anything out there that's cheap and fits the bill -- super-small yet with big screen keyboard (oxymoron actually). Today, if I were to look for a 'Libretto' replacement for stationary web terminal use, I'd seriously look at the $499 laptops that are often on sale (eg. this week - they've got a handful of $499 laptops at the usual store - see sunday newspaper ads). Cheap, powerful, has everything, and works great for a little bit of money. Destined to run for years and give you lots of bang for the buck in return. If I were to go for a small, Libretto-like sized replacement that's faster, I'd start looking at the Fujitsu P5000 series, Sony T series, the Averatec 4lbs at Staples.com, the JVC Interlink XP series (Japan only), the Panasonic Y/R/W series (Japan only), etc. -- you can see and buy most of them from www.conics.net. If price wasn't such a big issue, I'd start with the Sony T series -- light, acts as a stand-alone DVD player (no OS boot required), and has a nice keyboard and screen, as well as the Fujitsu P5000 series (T70 in Japan) - both have built-in CD burners, about 3lbs, and generally balance everything out well for the size. Beyond that, you'd have to see what fits your fingers. (eg. Panasonic looks good on paper, but the odd chisled top keys are tough to finger) Also your eyes. eg. Sony U50/U70 series seems awesome until you see one in real life and realize that even at the maginified resolution provided, you still have to hold it up to your nose to read anything. Battery life is an issue here as well - eg. JVC Interlink XP looks awesome, but then you realize to get anything past 2 hours of battery life, you'll have to attach a heavy, external rear battery pack =( Anyways, if the L1-L5 was so 'awesome' as a Libretto, I would have picked one up in Japan when I was there. But after seeing them in person and playing with them
[LIB] Information On Libretto L1/L2?
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:58:44 -0600 From: John Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Information On Libretto L1/L2? I am getting interested in a Libretto L1 or L2, which are becoming affordable. I realize they are considerably larger than my L100, and thus will be used for different things. In my case, if I got a L1/L2 I'd make it my work laptop, so it would be used for 2MB Excel models, light Word, Outlook w/ big attachments, and some applications using Citrix, typically via wireless LAN card. The L100 would stay my personal take-to-the-coffee-shop machine. Can I ask for some info on these later Librettos . . . 1. General reactions to them? 2. Compare to other, similarly sized subnotes, e.g. Sony PictureBook Vaio C1? Or to the L3/L5 if that's the competition? 3. How powerful or not powerful is a 600MHz Crusoe, anyway?I'm not positive if the L1/L2 maxes at 256 or 384MB RAM. 4. Are they hard to do clean OS installs and run Win XP on? I'm trying to read through the L1 Yahoo Group board, and keep coming across lots of can't boot from XYZ device and where's the BIOS and help I need ABC driver messages. 5. Other sources of information? I haven't found nearly as much online information, discussion, or sellers of batteries etc for the L1/L2 as for the L50-L110 range.
[LIB] HELP!! Libretto L1 recvoery disks
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 17:58:31 -0700 From: Brandon Lin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: HELP!! Libretto L1 recvoery disks Does anybody have the 4 japanese recovery disks they would be willing to burn for me? Thanks Brandon ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Re: Libretto L1, L2, L3..
Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 20:54:41 +0900 From: brett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Re: Libretto L1, L2, L3.. Henri, this group has a lot of help for Libretto L1/2/3/5 owners: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libretto-L1/ -Brett p.s. some of the tips / tricks you find here apply to other sub-note books too. henri wrote: Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 14:50:59 +1000 From: henri [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Libretto L1, L2, L3.. Hi all happy users.. I receive (like all the guys who have subscribed) a lot of tricks and tips for the L50 L 100 etc... Never anything regarding the L1, L2 or L3 ? Is this not a group dedicated to Libretto ? Regards Henri ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
[LIB] Re: Libretto L1, L2, L3..
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 14:50:59 +1000 From: henri [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Libretto L1, L2, L3.. Hi all happy users.. I receive (like all the guys who have subscribed) a lot of tricks and tips for the L50 L 100 etc... Never anything regarding the L1, L2 or L3 ? Is this not a group dedicated to Libretto ? Regards Henri ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Re: Libretto L1, L2, L3..
Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 13:24:20 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Re: Libretto L1, L2, L3.. At 09:55 PM 7/06/2002 -0700, you wrote: Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 14:50:59 +1000 From: henri [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Libretto L1, L2, L3.. Hi all happy users.. I receive (like all the guys who have subscribed) a lot of tricks and tips for the L50 L 100 etc... Never anything regarding the L1, L2 or L3 ? Is this not a group dedicated to Libretto ? You're welcome to buy us all one of those, then we can all give you tricks and tips for them ;-) Seriously though, we can only give tips and tricks largely based on what we own. Since Toshiba don't seem to want to spread their new Librettos far and wide, there aren't a lot of people who are on this list who would have one. The other thing is the L50/70/100/110 have been out for a lot longer so you'd get more people who have tinkered with them beyond their limits and who could therefore offer more tips including hardware tips and whatnot. - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | | ICQ: 31756092 | Libretto IRC channel #Libretto on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Libretto L1 and windows XP
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 18:05:02 +1000 From: henri [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto L1 and windows XP Thank you for answering. What is the name of this (or these) utility ? ACPI is not supported under Windows XP anyway... What is the shortcut keyboard command to increase / decrease the brightness ? Thank's again Best regards Henri - Original Message - From: Gennadiy Tsygan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto L1 and windows XP Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 20:01:51 -0400 From: Gennadiy Tsygan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto L1 and windows XP From the experience with older Librettos I think that there is a software utility which controls brightness. The problem is that L1 is a Japan only model, and English version of the utility may not exist. Try downloading similar utilities for other Toshibas. One of them might work. Usually two programs are needed: ACPI common modules and Toshiba Power Saver. - Original Message - From: henri [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 1:15 PM Subject: [LIB] Libretto L1 and windows XP Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 03:10:34 +1000 From: henri [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Libretto L1 and windows XP Just curious.. To know if someone has the same problems... On a Libretto L1 upgraded with: - 256 Mb RAM - American keyboard - Network PCMIA card 10/100 Mb / second. - installed Windows XP without any problem. - Installed Windows XP (all upgrades) without any problem - Installed Windows Office XP without any problem - Installed Windows Office XP service pack without any problem. Now I do have a problem when running on battery: After about 15 seconds the screen is deemed by about 50% and I do not know how to increase the brightness.. If anyone could tell me how.. I would be delighted. Thank you in advance. Best regards. Henri ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Libretto L1 and windows XP
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 23:35:45 +0900 From: brett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto L1 and windows XP Henri, The software Gennadiy Tsygan refers to is available on my support site: http://downloads.conics.net/ and also Toshiba Japan: http://www5.toshiba.co.jp/pcss/member/download/winxp/libretto/l1.htm And I've run the Power Saver etc on Libretto L1 and L2 (win ME / 2000 / XP) it works 100% in all these English OS by the way. specifically this folder http://downloads.conics.net/libretto/ please read the order of installation and (Toshiba EULA - Japanese ! haha). with this software you can conrtol the bright ness etc on the Libretto L1,2,3 -Brett Install in this order when you set up a Libretto L1/L2 with English ME / 2K / XP video driver audio driver modem driver Toshiba Common Module Toshiba Power Saver Toshiba Utilities henri wrote: Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 18:05:02 +1000 From: henri [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto L1 and windows XP Thank you for answering. What is the name of this (or these) utility ? ACPI is not supported under Windows XP anyway... What is the shortcut keyboard command to increase / decrease the brightness ? Thank's again Best regards Henri - Original Message - From: Gennadiy Tsygan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto L1 and windows XP Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 20:01:51 -0400 From: Gennadiy Tsygan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto L1 and windows XP From the experience with older Librettos I think that there is a software utility which controls brightness. The problem is that L1 is a Japan only model, and English version of the utility may not exist. Try downloading similar utilities for other Toshibas. One of them might work. Usually two programs are needed: ACPI common modules and Toshiba Power Saver. - Original Message - From: henri [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 1:15 PM Subject: [LIB] Libretto L1 and windows XP Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 03:10:34 +1000 From: henri [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Libretto L1 and windows XP Just curious.. To know if someone has the same problems... On a Libretto L1 upgraded with: - 256 Mb RAM - American keyboard - Network PCMIA card 10/100 Mb / second. - installed Windows XP without any problem. - Installed Windows XP (all upgrades) without any problem - Installed Windows Office XP without any problem - Installed Windows Office XP service pack without any problem. Now I do have a problem when running on battery: After about 15 seconds the screen is deemed by about 50% and I do not know how to increase the brightness.. If anyone could tell me how.. I would be delighted. Thank you in advance. Best regards. Henri ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace
[LIB] Libretto L1 and windows XP
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 03:10:34 +1000 From: henri [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Libretto L1 and windows XP Just curious.. To know if someone has the same problems... On a Libretto L1 upgraded with: - 256 Mb RAM - American keyboard - Network PCMIA card 10/100 Mb / second. - installed Windows XP without any problem. - Installed Windows XP (all upgrades) without any problem - Installed Windows Office XP without any problem - Installed Windows Office XP service pack without any problem. Now I do have a problem when running on battery: After about 15 seconds the screen is deemed by about 50% and I do not know how to increase the brightness.. If anyone could tell me how.. I would be delighted. Thank you in advance. Best regards. Henri ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Libretto L1 and windows XP
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 20:01:51 -0400 From: Gennadiy Tsygan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto L1 and windows XP From the experience with older Librettos I think that there is a software utility which controls brightness. The problem is that L1 is a Japan only model, and English version of the utility may not exist. Try downloading similar utilities for other Toshibas. One of them might work. Usually two programs are needed: ACPI common modules and Toshiba Power Saver. - Original Message - From: henri [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 1:15 PM Subject: [LIB] Libretto L1 and windows XP Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 03:10:34 +1000 From: henri [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Libretto L1 and windows XP Just curious.. To know if someone has the same problems... On a Libretto L1 upgraded with: - 256 Mb RAM - American keyboard - Network PCMIA card 10/100 Mb / second. - installed Windows XP without any problem. - Installed Windows XP (all upgrades) without any problem - Installed Windows Office XP without any problem - Installed Windows Office XP service pack without any problem. Now I do have a problem when running on battery: After about 15 seconds the screen is deemed by about 50% and I do not know how to increase the brightness.. If anyone could tell me how.. I would be delighted. Thank you in advance. Best regards. Henri ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
[LIB] Re: Libretto L1
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 08:46:30 - From: George Derby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Libretto L1 I addition to my 100CT (Win98SE) and 100CT (XP) I now own a new Libretto L1 - it is a beautiful looking machine, never mind its spec (256Mb ram and 30Gb HDD). I hope to find other users - anyone on this list with one? By the way, there's lots of talk re Win98 / Win2000 on the 100CT - I find XP wonderful on my 110 - lovely screen display and stability is near perfect. No problems runnung most software. Best wishes George ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
[LIB] Libretto L1/L2/L3 in California $1499+, Used Jpn. CDs $3!
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 13:21:57 -0800 (PST) From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Libretto L1/L2/L3 in California $1499+, Used Jpn. CDs $3! User's Side store in Gardena, CA (southern california) 405 to 110 freeway south to pacific coast highway west to carson ave. corner shopping mall. (or 405 to carson south all the way to PCH corner) $1499+ for the L-series. Has one on display looking quite sleek and black elegant. -- They also have other japanese laptops and desktops and software in stock and can be ordered if you like. eg. that brand-new super thin 16.5mm Sharp Mebius ~3lbs notebook just out (yep, that's 16.5mm closed, open, both parts are even thinner). eg. Hello Kitty labled CD-R discs. eg. the usual lot of Japanese OS, apps and games. eg. the latest Sony VAIO laptops not yet avail. in the US. -- Good buy for those that don't want to buy on ebay.com (although ebay.com can go $200-300 cheaper) and want local store to support them as needed. You have the opportunity to stop in and check it out before buying, too. -- IMO, the one nice thing about the L-series is that the keys on the keyboard are finally 'comfy' sized. Just small enough to make the L-series portable, but not so small that you have to adjust like on the L50-110 series US keyboards. (and if you've got the Japanese keyboard, even more adjustment! ,) They've got a sort of rubber insulated bounce to them, and not 'noisy' like the L110 keyboard. Dont' know if this softness will be good or not in long typing sessions. It is thinner and a touch heavier than the L100/110 series, of course, so it's not a 'Libretto' in the sense of the size and weight of prior models. However, it does take things into a more useable direction where you don't have to have super good eyes and adroit typing skills to fit yourself into the smaller, older Libretto keyboards and screens. Same annoying touch-point as the Sony C1 series, and I would have prefered a touchpad instead. Still, guess they've got some space considerations... The L1 is definitely not a 'book' anymore in terms of portability. Much larger width and depth means you can't just tuck it under your arm like prior Librettos, and it's more like one of their 3lbs notebooks divided in half now. More like a writing tablet now but still lighter than the usual 3lbs slim-notebooks. -- for those looking at the Fujitsu P-series (LOOX in Japan), and wanting the very latest models with all the goodies, User's Side can probably have one special ordered as well -- faster than waiting for the US long lines if you can handle the Japanese OS and keyboard. The US always seems to be a bit behind the Japanese for the latest leading-edge models in terms of thin multi-functional models. -- User's Side also can order those nifty all-in-one Sharp LCD and computer in one models if you like. Stylish models to choose from, and naturally, all in japanese. -- They don't carry any of the 7-color epson inkjet printers (PM-900C/PM-920C/PM-950C) in store, but could probably special order them. These are the world's best photo inkjet printers beating all other inkjet prineters avail. Sadly, avail. in japan only for some reason www.silverace.com/dottyspotty/issue9.html to see my actual print samples of many photo printers except the 7-colors. I'd order one myself if it weren't so hard/expensive to get the cartridges -- After that head over to Pacific Square - 405 to 110 N to Redondo Beach Blvd. Head Pacific Square mall on the south side of the street a couple blocks west from the 110 freeway. (or take 405 to carson exit north, to Redondo east). They have a big shopping mall area with the usual little mini-malls shops. My favorite is Itasho Book Off used Japanese books, magazines, manga CD store. They've got 600+ stores in Japan, and this little find has lots of goodies. $3 CDs of many recent decade pop artists like SPEED, Globe, Utada Hikaru, ELT, etc. - yep! $3 for each album! in very good condition. (a far better buy for those that are into Japanese music vs. those $30+ Japanese CDs new - yep, Japan has crazy CD music prices) Lots of older bands as well, and it goes back a decade to some of the more obscure, hard-to-find titles (like my own favs Mizuki Arisa and Kix-s). Lots of books as well, including some hard-to-find older classics like the novel for Koukou Kyoushi, that 1993 TBS TV classic drama. (well, actually, KK books are gone now that I've been there and bought out the only two titles they had ;) Lots of comic books for those into manga, and worth the visit if you're into anything Japanese. It'll save you a lot of money if you can find it in this used bookstore. -- Anyways, nothing's perfect, and as such, none of these stores have the really obscure like that fourth Koukou Kyoushi book. Or, in another case, that's 0.5mm Fine Black ink replacements for the Uni-ball Gel RT (UMR-85 in Japan and elsewhere). Strangely, Sanford thinks the USA shouldn't get
Libretto L1
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 05:36:57 -0400 From: David Hettel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Libretto L1 Stacey Tenen; If you wouldn't mind, I would like to know your connection for the L1. You say that it was upgrade, but I don't see what is was upgrade to, could you tell me? How much ram does it have, and how large a hard drive does it have? Do you know if these are Toshiba parts, or some one else? Did you get the original Japanise CD roms for it? I have one of the Toshiba 1100v, and with it at least, there was/is enought Toshiba specific hardware, that you really need the 4 factory CD to reinstall it, and even then you are not getting all the features that you paid for! Is the L1 a totally non Toshiba feature computer then? It truley doesn't need any Toshiba special drivers? There seems to be a very very large difference in the battery life that you are reporting, and what I understand Toshiba is claiming. I thought that with the large battery, that Toshiba was claiming something on the order of 12~14 hours of life. You seem to be getting the same kind of battery life that on can get with 1100v. As if it's special chips, make no or almost no real difference. As far as bios/drivers upgrade go, is there anything thing set up to get you thoes? I know with my 1100v (Dynamism upgade and support of drivers was worthless, IMHO.) For example they still do not have the Bios upgrade for it on there site, and I was told by them that for Japanise Computer systems Toshiba dos not normally supply BIOS upgrades, and if and or when they do it would require sending it back to Japan for it. I was also told that they were going to have a fix for the remote control driver for the 1100v which they seem to never have released. What software are you using on it for power managment? Thanks David Hettel ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Libretto L1 sales started on eBay
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 23:16:42 +0900 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Libretto L1 sales started on eBay See also http://www.geocities.com/toshiba_libretto/a/ for the prices of 'Open Price' accessories. Alex ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: Subject: the new libretto L1
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 06:14:40 -0400 From: Michael Hodish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Subject: the new libretto L1 Get it in Hong Kong, it will be in English. Call or fax (no email, they hate spam) Mr. Charles Ho, or James Miu, Sunlite Computronics Ltd. Suite 1130 311 Gloucester Rd. Causeway Bay Hong Kong Tel 2576-2067 Fax (852) 2577-8874 That's how the numbers are on his business card. The 8 digit part is the local number...you will have to be a detective to figure out the country codes, etc. Sunlight is an Authorized dealer for Tosh, Fujitsu, HP and IBM. Their main thrust at the moment seems to be Fujitsu, in fact, I was there today and bought a larger Fujitsu, but I whipped out my Lib 70 and they got all excited! Especially when they learned it packed 20 Gb! If only it were fast, and I had really small fingers! There were a couple of Libs at this address...it is a computer mall. Sunlight did not have one on display, but I am sure they can get it. They are willing to ship, which Japanese companies never are, and, they speak English. Also, no sales tax in Hong Kong, in Japan it is steep. I am leaving here tomorrow, or I would offer to get it for you. Ooops, forget a bunch of that... I just called charles, and he says the Lib's are gray market, so he can't sell them yet, but yes, there are some english ones here...more on that later. He suggest you consider the roughly equivalent Fujitsu P-1000 Crusoe 533 MHz, 128 Mb Ram, 15 Gig, 8.8 screen, built in 56 K modem, external floppy and cd, and mini dock, all for 13,300 Hong Kong Dollars, which is roughly US $1700 I have seen the Libs in a couple of stores, for prices ranginng from Price 12500 hong kong dollars to 10500. I was not shopping for one, so did not pay any attention to the details of language or bundled accessories. Right beside it was a vaio..it was behind glass, and I hnad some trouble reading the model nr, but I think it was pcg c 1 vr bp. this had b uilt in vid camera. coould not see the specs, but am sure they are on line . vaio also in english., for 13800, and roughly 1000 less without the camera. I have converted Japanese computers to run English, and simply installing another version of Windows may turn out to be the least of your worries. First, they keyboard mapping will be wrong. This can be fixed...it can all be fixed, I am just advising of the issues. Also, installing drivers can be tricky, as you may not know, for ex ample, what kind od sound chip is in use, and it may or may not autdetect properly. Not being able to read the documentation can make this a bit challenging. And, of course, you will have no warantee, and buying consumaqbles like batteries is a bother, etc. The Fujitsu, on the other hand, is available in your choice of English or Chinese, with worldwide warrantee. I know, I know, this is the libretto fan club, but, frankly, I would have parted with my Lib 70 today...it is just too hard to type on for me, but the only thing that was similar in size, but with a better keybd was the casio Fiva, now available in English, but quite widely derided as junk, and over $1000 US for a 200 or 233 Mhz chip, 64 mb/ 6 gb, just did not seem worth it. So, here I still am, tyoing with 2 fingers. Some other shops in the mall...I don't know if they had libs or not: There are probably 50 stores there, so if these don't have it, ask if their neighbors might. The clerks were generally very knowledgeable and helpful. Toy tool tech: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Houston Crest: www.2c-hk.comphone 2116-3198 GSI computer... good bet, they had some odd stuff, including a Fiva, which most have dumped due to high return rates...Tel (852) 2576 5139 Fax (852) 2576 5361. Here are a bunch of links on the Fujitsu: http://www.google.com/search?q=fujitsu+p+1000sourceid=operanum=0 If you wind up callinf Sunlite, please tell them Mike hodish, the Dentist from America sent you. Never know when I might need more brownie points! Happy hunting! Mike ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
My Libretto L1 web page
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 23:33:27 +0900 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: My Libretto L1 web page I have put together a web page with information and links specific to Libretto L1. http://www.geocities.com/toshiba_libretto/ I have searched the Italian dictionaries hoping to find another catchy word for a book not quite as small as libretto. I think I found only a word for an even smaller book. aleXXandro [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
the new libretto L1
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 05:55:57 -0400 From: brennan - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: the new libretto L1 hello folks, i am new to this list because i have been researching the libretto L1. i wish to purchase this machine through a friend in Japan. i am from Canada and i don't think it will be available here for some time. does anybody know of any reason why i should not do this. it looks like an awsome machine. i have had a sony picturebook...and when toshiba announced this model, i felt as though i had some hope with my quest for the ultimate ultraportable. i know that the OS will be Japanese but i suspect that i should be able to clean install W2K. I don't really like millenium anyway!! i am sure that many of you have Japanese models that had to be converted. should i expect complications with things like the bios or boot sector or anything else that is not blown away with a reformat? (a short rant about sony)hopefully to make you feel better about your wonderful toshibas... sony is not a customer oriented company. they charge exorbitant prices and atttempt to sting you for more money with proprietary issues. every sony product is designed to force you to buy the only sony compatibles...sony!! i know this is the norm for some products with some compatibles but with sony, it is everything. for instance, you cannot reliably use a sony picturebook with anything other than a sony cd-rom. peace:) brennan _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: the new libretto L1
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 09:14:19 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Manson) Subject: Re: the new libretto L1 I have yet to see this new L1. The Toshiba.com page doesn't seem to know about it, so where can I see what it looks like? Tom Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 05:55:57 -0400 From: brennan - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: the new libretto L1 hello folks, i am new to this list because i have been researching the libretto L1. i wish to purchase this machine through a friend in Japan. i am from Canada and i don't think it will be available here for some time. does anybody know of any reason why i should not do this. it looks like an awsome machine. i have had a sony picturebook...and when toshiba announced this model, i felt as though i had some hope with my quest for the ultimate ultraportable. i know that the OS will be Japanese but i suspect that i should be able to clean install W2K. I don't really like millenium anyway!! i am sure that many of you have Japanese models that had to be converted. should i expect complications with things like the bios or boot sector or anything else that is not blown away with a reformat? (a short rant about sony)hopefully to make you feel better about your wonderful toshibas... sony is not a customer oriented company. they charge exorbitant prices and atttempt to sting you for more money with proprietary issues. every sony product is designed to force you to buy the only sony compatibles...sony!! i know this is the norm for some products with some compatibles but with sony, it is everything. for instance, you cannot reliably use a sony picturebook with anything other than a sony cd-rom. peace:) brennan _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... ** __ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: the new libretto L1
Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 23:01:13 +0900 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: the new libretto L1 Try this page as the starting point for Libretto L1. http://www.geocities.com/sony_vaio_pcg_c1/ Don't let this URL stop you. It compares it with the Sony product and has many links. /ken Original Message Subject: Re: the new libretto L1 Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 06:20:14 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Manson) Reply-To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 09:14:19 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Manson) Subject: Re: the new libretto L1 I have yet to see this new L1. The Toshiba.com page doesn't seem to know about it, so where can I see what it looks like? Tom Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 05:55:57 -0400 From: brennan - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: the new libretto L1 hello folks, i am new to this list because i have been researching the libretto L1. i wish to purchase this machine through a friend in Japan. i am from Canada and i don't think it will be available here for some time. does anybody know of any reason why i should not do this. it looks like an awsome machine. i have had a sony picturebook...and when toshiba announced this model, i felt as though i had some hope with my quest for the ultimate ultraportable. i know that the OS will be Japanese but i suspect that i should be able to clean install W2K. I don't really like millenium anyway!! i am sure that many of you have Japanese models that had to be converted. should i expect complications with things like the bios or boot sector or anything else that is not blown away with a reformat? (a short rant about sony)hopefully to make you feel better about your wonderful toshibas... sony is not a customer oriented company. they charge exorbitant prices and atttempt to sting you for more money with proprietary issues. every sony product is designed to force you to buy the only sony compatibles...sony!! i know this is the norm for some products with some compatibles but with sony, it is everything. for instance, you cannot reliably use a sony picturebook with anything other than a sony cd-rom. peace:) brennan ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: Libretto L1?
Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 20:50:06 +0900 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Libretto L1? I think one of the reasons there is not much discussion about the L1 on this list is that it would be hard to truly classify the L1 as a Libretto, size-wise. Yes, NoPictureBook may be a better name than Libretto. I think the use of the name Libretto sends a signal that Toshiba will not release a smaller Libretto for a while. I also like to have a computer as small as possible. On the other hand I find it difficult to ask for a smaller display with the same price. The display accounts for the large part of the price. When the first Libretto came out TFT was much more expensive. It appears that Libretto is growing as the TFT price drops. I like the size of the L1 display and keyboard. What bothers me is the unused real estate under both of them. PictureBook has less of the unused real estate, even with the camera on top of the screen. I also like that on the PictureBook mouse buttons are usable when the lid is closed. Minor details. I wish that the long life battery was more like in the Portege models, a thin block under the bottom. And a multi purpose drive bay built into either the long life battery block, or into a separate port replicator block. It's more like a regular notebook. You view this as a negative. More people may view this as a positive. The L1 size may prove to be more popular with a wider audience, because it is a smaller version of a regular notebook, with fewer restriction on use. This is about the smallest size for the vertical resolution of 600 pixels. The display on VAIO GT1 is a bit too small for the resolution it supports. I works OK for photos but the text is hard to read. Today Toshiba can probably make a machine equivalent to the original Libretto with the size of the larger Palm organizers. I wish they would. I would like to run Linux or Windows 95/98 on the Sony CLIE 700/710 look alike, with a flip cover over the display and an optional USB keyboard. Why do they not do it? How much should they sell it for? CLIE is about $500, I think. How many people would buy? /ken Original Message Subject: Libretto L1? Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 19:43:18 -0700 From: "Marc @ American Elevator" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 19:41:11 -0700 From: "Marc @ American Elevator" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Libretto L1? I think one of the reasons there is not much discussion about the L1 on this list is that it would be hard to truly classify the L1 as a Libretto, size-wise. It's more like a regular notebook. It is not very interesting to me for that reason. Too bad they didn't retain the same size or slightly smaller than the 100/110 series. No one at Toshiba asked *me* about it... grin. Marc - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 6:58 PM Subject: Re: Anyone selling any Librettos? Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 10:54:56 +0900 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone selling any Librettos? Of course, Toshiba is selling in Japan a new Libretto L1. For some reason there is more discussion about this on the Sony PictureBook forum and mailing list. A bit larger and thinner than PictureBook. Has a Limited International Warranty. Starts selling in Japan 2000-05-18. US introduction 2000-05-25 at Dynamism TruePrice(tm) US$ 2499.00. http://www.dynamism.com/libretto/index.shtml Japanese: http://www2.toshiba.co.jp/pc/catalog/libretto/010507l1/index_j.htm This page wants to play a movie, you can go directly to the text: http://www2.toshiba.co.jp/pc/catalog/libretto/010507l1/lib001.htm http://www2.toshiba.co.jp/pc/catalog/libretto/010507l1/libhard.htm http://www2.toshiba.co.jp/pc/catalog/libretto/010507l1/lineup.htm http://www2.toshiba.co.jp/pc/catalog/libretto/010507l1/soft.htm http://www2.toshiba.co.jp/pc/catalog/libretto/010507l1/spec.htm http://www2.toshiba.co.jp/pc/catalog/libretto/010507l1/option.htm This guy may be willing to ship one from Tokyo, with Japanese software: http://www.geocities.com/sony_vaio_pcg_c1/ Ask for the LessThenTruePrice. I do not know much about UK politics, but would a screen from a dead Libretto 30 work in Libretto 50? /ken ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Libretto L1?
Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 19:41:11 -0700 From: Marc @ American Elevator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Libretto L1? I think one of the reasons there is not much discussion about the L1 on this list is that it would be hard to truly classify the L1 as a Libretto, size-wise. It's more like a regular notebook. It is not very interesting to me for that reason. Too bad they didn't retain the same size or slightly smaller than the 100/110 series. No one at Toshiba asked *me* about it... grin. Marc - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 6:58 PM Subject: Re: Anyone selling any Librettos? Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 10:54:56 +0900 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone selling any Librettos? Of course, Toshiba is selling in Japan a new Libretto L1. For some reason there is more discussion about this on the Sony PictureBook forum and mailing list. A bit larger and thinner than PictureBook. Has a Limited International Warranty. Starts selling in Japan 2000-05-18. US introduction 2000-05-25 at Dynamism TruePrice(tm) US$ 2499.00. http://www.dynamism.com/libretto/index.shtml Japanese: http://www2.toshiba.co.jp/pc/catalog/libretto/010507l1/index_j.htm This page wants to play a movie, you can go directly to the text: http://www2.toshiba.co.jp/pc/catalog/libretto/010507l1/lib001.htm http://www2.toshiba.co.jp/pc/catalog/libretto/010507l1/libhard.htm http://www2.toshiba.co.jp/pc/catalog/libretto/010507l1/lineup.htm http://www2.toshiba.co.jp/pc/catalog/libretto/010507l1/soft.htm http://www2.toshiba.co.jp/pc/catalog/libretto/010507l1/spec.htm http://www2.toshiba.co.jp/pc/catalog/libretto/010507l1/option.htm This guy may be willing to ship one from Tokyo, with Japanese software: http://www.geocities.com/sony_vaio_pcg_c1/ Ask for the LessThenTruePrice. I do not know much about UK politics, but would a screen from a dead Libretto 30 work in Libretto 50? /ken Original Message Subject: Anyone selling any Librettos? Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 18:08:17 -0700 From: Giles Toman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 01:09:53 + From: Giles Toman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Anyone selling any Librettos? I have a contact whose Lib 50 has now got a cracked screen, and he is looking for another Libretto. If anyone has one (will consider any model) that they are looking to sell, I am interested. And (I know this is as likely as William Hague being the next UK Prime Minister) if anyone has a Lib 50/60/70 that has broken down but whose screen is OK, I am VERY interested. Please let me know. Giles Toman - Giles Toman Amherst Information Technology London, England Tel: +44 (020) 7328 9792 Fax: +44 (020) 7209 2704 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
LIBRETTO L1/060TNMM
Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 18:57:02 +0800 From: icf-sw77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: LIBRETTO L1/060TNMM libretto L1/060TNMM Generation 6th Model Numbers Japanese release: PAL1060TNMM CPU Transmeta Crusoe TM5600 600MHz L1 128K L2 512K BIOS ROM 512KB ACPI 1.0b Standard/Max RAM128/256MB(PC100 SDRAM 16MB used) Screen Size 10'TFT 1,280×600×16M HD 10GB(Ultra ATA) Keyboard Japanese model: 84, 18mm (keys, center to center spacing) Graphics Chip S3 Savage IX Graphics Ram 8MB Battery Life 3.5-4.5 / 11.0-14.0 (standard/large) Dimensions 268mm×167.2mm×20.5~29.3mm Weight 1.1Kg Release Date May 07,2001 RGB×1 USB×2(RJ11)×1 ·i.LINK(IEEE1394)S400×1 TYPE II×1(CardBus) - Original Message - From: Dale Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 3:08 PM Subject: Re: Battery question Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 00:02:47 -0700 From: Dale Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Battery question Hi Dave, $8 seems inexpensive for Li-ion perhaps these are not. I thought the lib packs had 6 cells in them, two (strings of 3) in parallel. Maybe the standard is 1 string and the hi-capacity is 2 strings for the extra capacity. I haven't opened my pack yet. I am looking for replacement cells now. Thanks for the offer to help. I'll let you know my results when I get a pack re-celled. The circuit is probably different on the hi-capacity pcb to support the doubled charge current. I am reluctant to open my packs yet as both are almost new. The mah rating is the measure of capacity but some battery chemistries don't allow a large load (Lib vs. Minidisc) and the life was greatly reduced. If the cells you tried were 1200mah then they should have lasted 60 to 90 minutes (assumption from list). Something was wrong, not charged, batts bad and wouldn't charge == cheap price, not 1200mah - only 2-300mah. Thanks again for the info. Regards, Dale - Original Message - From: Dave's Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 5:02 AM Subject: Re: Battery question Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 12:58:35 +0100 From: Dave's Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Battery question Hi Dale, - Original Message - From: Dale Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 6:47 PM Thanks for helping me remember this. I'm going to find a cheaper pack with enough capacity to replace the cells in a standard pack (new) that I have. http://www.alpinesports.org/~libretto/ I tried this with Minidisc batteries, cost me £5 ($8) for the three needed. The hard part is finding cheap cells but are available in packs for obsolete no-demand laptops. I'll post my results after testing. The ratings for the batteries would match up OK, but it didnt work for very long. I'd love to know why as I was always under the impression that the mAh rating was the deciding factor, and if this matches the original Libretto battery, then it should work. I'd be interesting in assisting if it is any use to you, and vice versa. Cheers Dave ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
