Re: Musescore/musicxml questions

2022-06-30 Thread Kira Garvie
Thank you, Jacques! That does help. I work with this system, that creates both printable online files and downloadable xml files, but lately I have been having formatting issues... I wish we used something other than MuseScore! (Lilypond is used for a different part of the project!) https

Re: Musescore/musicxml questions

2022-06-30 Thread Jacques Menu
, to be submitted to the MuseScore team at https://musescore.com/user/login?destination=%2Fcas%2Flogin. HTH! JM > Le 30 juin 2022 à 18:50, Kira Garvie a écrit : > > Hey all, > I know this is a bit off-topic but it's on-topic for me... also I don't know > who else to ask, the mu

Re: Musescore/musicxml questions

2022-06-30 Thread Karlin High
On 6/30/2022 11:50 AM, Kira Garvie wrote: I am having issues exporting an xml file and having it keep its formatting. Can you further describe the workflow, source and destination of the export? -- Karlin High Missouri, USA

Musescore/musicxml questions

2022-06-30 Thread Kira Garvie
Hey all, I know this is a bit off-topic but it's on-topic for me... also I don't know who else to ask, the muse-score forums aren't very helpful. I use Lilypond, Musescore, and musicxml files for my work. Please, no comments on the quality of Musescore, the decision to use it was above my paygrade

Re: New Musescore

2021-10-24 Thread Brent Annable
Thanks Jean! Brent. On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 at 18:52, Jean Abou Samra wrote: > Le 24/10/2021 à 08:02, Brent Annable a écrit : > > Hi Everyone, > > > > Can anybody tell me how to actually use the new Leland font in lilypond? > I > > went to the GitHub link and downloaded all the files, but as far

Re: New Musescore

2021-10-24 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 24/10/2021 à 08:02, Brent Annable a écrit : Hi Everyone, Can anybody tell me how to actually use the new Leland font in lilypond? I went to the GitHub link and downloaded all the files, but as far as I can tell there are no Leland-11, Leland-13, Leland-14, etc. files. I downloaded the

Re: New Musescore

2021-10-24 Thread Brent Annable
a Lilypond file the log said 'cannot find Leland-11'. How do I actually do this? Regards, Brent. On Sat, 23 Jan 2021 at 07:56, Xavier Scheuer wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 at 19:44, Noeck wrote: > > > > FYI: The new MuseScore version 3.6 comes with a new default music font &g

Re: New Musescore

2021-01-22 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 at 19:44, Noeck wrote: > > FYI: The new MuseScore version 3.6 comes with a new default music font > and text font. > > https://musescore.org/de/node/315523 > > There is a sample image in this article > https://gnulinux.ch/neue-version-von-musescore T

New Musescore

2021-01-22 Thread Noeck
FYI: The new MuseScore version 3.6 comes with a new default music font and text font. https://musescore.org/de/node/315523 There is a sample image in this article https://gnulinux.ch/neue-version-von-musescore Cheers, Joram

Re: Comparison of Musescore, Sibelius and Dorico -- would like to add Lilypond

2018-11-29 Thread Abraham Lee
Hi, David! On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 3:51 PM David Bellows wrote: > > Ok, everyone. I have finally gotten around to adding data about LilyPond > > Excellent work and thank you! > My pleasure ;-) > Lilypond does look good here. I am curious, what are forked stems? You > have that as a "no" for

Re: Comparison of Musescore, Sibelius and Dorico -- would like to add Lilypond

2018-11-29 Thread Abraham Lee
On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 6:18 PM Thomas Morley wrote: > Am Di., 27. Nov. 2018 um 00:16 Uhr schrieb Malte Meyn < > lilyp...@maltemeyn.de>: > > > „Notes, forked stems“ (l. 109) > > → should be „yes (fake: rotated stems or custom lines)“ > > > > Or like attached pdf. > Most recent code here (if

Re: Comparison of Musescore, Sibelius and Dorico -- would like to add Lilypond

2018-11-26 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Di., 27. Nov. 2018 um 00:16 Uhr schrieb Malte Meyn : > „Notes, forked stems“ (l. 109) > → should be „yes (fake: rotated stems or custom lines)“ > Or like attached pdf. Most recent code here (if someone's interested) https://archiv.lilypondforum.de/index.php/topic,1176.msg6932.html#msg6932

Re: Comparison of Musescore, Sibelius and Dorico -- would like to add Lilypond

2018-11-26 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 26.11.18 um 23:36 schrieb Abraham Lee: Ok, everyone. I have finally gotten around to adding data about LilyPond. I felt pretty confident in the Notation and Engraving tabs, pretty solid marks there, but more uncertain about the Playback tab entries. I'm honestly not sure what they should

Re: Comparison of Musescore, Sibelius and Dorico -- would like to add Lilypond

2018-11-26 Thread David Bellows
> Ok, everyone. I have finally gotten around to adding data about LilyPond Excellent work and thank you! Lilypond does look good here. I am curious, what are forked stems? You have that as a "no" for Lilypond. Also, I see you used the latest unstable version of Lilypond, did that make much of a

Re: Comparison of Musescore, Sibelius and Dorico -- would like to add Lilypond

2018-11-26 Thread Abraham Lee
On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 1:04 PM David Bellows wrote: > Urs, > > >I think it would be good to add our stuff to the chart (not necessarily > much to the comments section). > > If the owner of the spreadsheet allows it, then definitely. I don't > know them personally so I don't know how they feel

Re: Comparison of Musescore, Sibelius and Dorico -- would like to add Lilypond

2018-11-20 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2018-11-20 um 21:03 schrieb David Bellows : >> find a way to plug the "programmability" aspect (vs. applying plugins >> after-the-fact),with things like complete extensibility with syntactical >> means, conditional layout per engraving target ...(Maybe this would even >> warrant a

Re: Comparison of Musescore, Sibelius and Dorico -- would like to add Lilypond

2018-11-20 Thread Shane Brandes
So it does everything on that list near as I can work out. On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 5:57 PM Torsten Hämmerle wrote: > > Shane Brandes wrote > > What do they mean by jazz articulations? > > Hi Shane, > > I guess they mean doits, falls, shakes, bends… > > All the best, > Torsten > > > > > -- > Sent

Re: Comparison of Musescore, Sibelius and Dorico -- would like to add Lilypond

2018-11-20 Thread Torsten Hämmerle
Shane Brandes wrote > What do they mean by jazz articulations? Hi Shane, I guess they mean doits, falls, shakes, bends… All the best, Torsten -- Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Comparison of Musescore, Sibelius and Dorico -- would like to add Lilypond

2018-11-20 Thread J Martin Rushton
of Lilypond's biggest strengths! Working out meaningful/useful >> parallels with the other programs would be the issue, I'm guessing? >> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 11:50 AM David Kastrup wrote: >>> >>> Karlin High writes: >>> >>>> On 11/20/2018 1

Re: Comparison of Musescore, Sibelius and Dorico -- would like to add Lilypond

2018-11-20 Thread Shane Brandes
t; > > > On 11/20/2018 12:38 PM, David Bellows wrote: > > >> Over in the /r/composer sub on Reddit, a user put together a chart > > >> listing features of Musescore, Sibelius and Dorico. > > > > > > I remember seeing some past work done with comparing LilyPond

Re: Comparison of Musescore, Sibelius and Dorico -- would like to add Lilypond

2018-11-20 Thread David Bellows
t; On 11/20/2018 12:38 PM, David Bellows wrote: > >> Over in the /r/composer sub on Reddit, a user put together a chart > >> listing features of Musescore, Sibelius and Dorico. > > > > I remember seeing some past work done with comparing LilyPond to other >

Re: Comparison of Musescore, Sibelius and Dorico -- would like to add Lilypond

2018-11-20 Thread David Kastrup
Karlin High writes: > On 11/20/2018 12:38 PM, David Bellows wrote: >> Over in the /r/composer sub on Reddit, a user put together a chart >> listing features of Musescore, Sibelius and Dorico. > > I remember seeing some past work done with comparing LilyPond to other &

Re: Comparison of Musescore, Sibelius and Dorico -- would like to add Lilypond

2018-11-20 Thread Urs Liska
Am 20.11.18 um 19:38 schrieb David Bellows: Over in the /r/composer sub on Reddit, a user put together a chart listing features of Musescore, Sibelius and Dorico. While I can figure out whether Lilypond has some/many of those features (or can "fake" them), I figured that there are p

Re: Comparison of Musescore, Sibelius and Dorico -- would like to add Lilypond

2018-11-20 Thread Urs Liska
Am 20.11.18 um 19:54 schrieb Karlin High: On 11/20/2018 12:38 PM, David Bellows wrote: Over in the /r/composer sub on Reddit, a user put together a chart listing features of Musescore, Sibelius and Dorico. I remember seeing some past work done with comparing LilyPond to other software

Re: Comparison of Musescore, Sibelius and Dorico -- would like to add Lilypond

2018-11-20 Thread Abraham Lee
On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 11:56 AM David Bellows wrote: > I'm not the owner which is why I suggested emailing the results to me > or to post it on Reddit. But I am glad you're willing to contribute > I don't think posting it as text on Reddit is the best format (not that I have an account to do

Re: Comparison of Musescore, Sibelius and Dorico -- would like to add Lilypond

2018-11-20 Thread David Bellows
illing to contribute and look forward to the results! Dave On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 10:52 AM Abraham Lee wrote: > > Hi, David! > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 11:39 AM David Bellows wrote: >> >> Over in the /r/composer sub on Reddit, a user put together a chart >> listing featur

Re: Comparison of Musescore, Sibelius and Dorico -- would like to add Lilypond

2018-11-20 Thread Karlin High
On 11/20/2018 12:38 PM, David Bellows wrote: Over in the /r/composer sub on Reddit, a user put together a chart listing features of Musescore, Sibelius and Dorico. I remember seeing some past work done with comparing LilyPond to other software. <https://github.com/engraving-challenges/m

Re: Comparison of Musescore, Sibelius and Dorico -- would like to add Lilypond

2018-11-20 Thread Abraham Lee
Hi, David! On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 11:39 AM David Bellows wrote: > Over in the /r/composer sub on Reddit, a user put together a chart > listing features of Musescore, Sibelius and Dorico. While I can figure > out whether Lilypond has some/many of those features (or can "fake"

Comparison of Musescore, Sibelius and Dorico -- would like to add Lilypond

2018-11-20 Thread David Bellows
Over in the /r/composer sub on Reddit, a user put together a chart listing features of Musescore, Sibelius and Dorico. While I can figure out whether Lilypond has some/many of those features (or can "fake" them), I figured that there are people here who could do this easier and bett

Re: I was unable to import an xml ogan file from Musescore - update

2014-07-12 Thread Son_V
it's tedious as it sounds :-(( -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/I-was-unable-to-import-an-xml-ogan-file-from-Musescore-update-tp164243p164365.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

I was unable to import an xml ogan file from Musescore - update

2014-07-10 Thread Son_V
Hi, some days ago I posted a message to say that I couldn't import an xml organ file made with Musescore; yesterday I installed Forte 5 basic took from GAOTD, and at my surprise it read perfectly the xml files I couldn't made Lilypond read . At this point i could think there is a problem

Re: I was unable to import an xml ogan file from Musescore - update

2014-07-10 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Son_V vincenzo.a...@gmail.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 11:59 AM Subject: I was unable to import an xml ogan file from Musescore - update What can be done? :-( Please see my reply on bugs to your duplicate message about

Re: I was unable to import an xml ogan file from Musescore - update

2014-07-10 Thread James
On 10/07/14 11:59, Son_V wrote: Hi, some days ago I posted a message to say that I couldn't import an xml organ file made with Musescore; yesterday I installed Forte 5 basic took from GAOTD, and at my surprise it read perfectly the xml files I couldn't made Lilypond read . At this point i could

Re: I was unable to import an xml ogan file from Musescore - update

2014-07-10 Thread Son_V
Well, the file produced by Musescore: http://www.freefilehosting.net/prova_1 and the same file imported in Forte Premium demo and re-exported in an xml file: http://www.freefilehosting.net/provaii But what messes me is that the first file, the one produced by MuseScore, can be imported

Re: I was unable to import an xml ogan file from Musescore - update

2014-07-10 Thread Richard Shann
On Thu, 2014-07-10 at 09:45 -0700, Son_V wrote: the one produced by MuseScore, can be imported in Denemo (BUT it sees FIVE voices!) well, it sees 5 voices because, bizarrely MuseScore has numbered the three voices 1, 2 and 5 The two empty ones are harmless (empty) and easily deleted of course

Re: I was unable to import an xml ogan file from Musescore - update

2014-07-10 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Son_V vincenzo.a...@gmail.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 5:45 PM Subject: Re: I was unable to import an xml ogan file from Musescore - update Well, the file produced by Musescore: http://www.freefilehosting.net/prova_1

Re: I was unable to import an xml ogan file from Musescore - update

2014-07-10 Thread Son_V
Ok, but how can Denemo load the file that LilyPond can't open, and so makes Forte? -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/I-was-unable-to-import-an-xml-ogan-file-from-Musescore-update-tp164243p164263.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: I was unable to import an xml ogan file from Musescore - update

2014-07-10 Thread Son_V
-was-unable-to-import-an-xml-ogan-file-from-Musescore-update-tp164243p164264.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: I was unable to import an xml ogan file from Musescore - update

2014-07-10 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Son_V vincenzo.a...@gmail.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 7:04 PM Subject: Re: I was unable to import an xml ogan file from Musescore - update Ok, but how can Denemo load the file that LilyPond can't open, and so makes Forte

Re: I was unable to import an xml ogan file from Musescore - update

2014-07-10 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Son_V vincenzo.a...@gmail.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 7:08 PM Subject: Re: I was unable to import an xml ogan file from Musescore - update Sorry but I can understand what a tiny example is, but I'm not able to make one

Re: I was unable to import an xml ogan file from Musescore - update

2014-07-10 Thread Federico Bruni
2014-07-10 21:52 GMT+02:00 Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com: See my file attached, all the measures are commented except the first and the problem is still present. This is not yet a minimal example. You should dig more. Try commenting staff 2 and leave only staff one. Be careful to comment

Re: OT? Error importing Organ xml files made in Musescore

2014-06-26 Thread Son_V
} %End of Movement HTH Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/OT-Error-importing-Organ-xml-files-made-in-Musescore-tp163601p163671.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user

OT? Error importing Organ xml files made in Musescore

2014-06-24 Thread Son_V
Hi all, can't understand why I can't import Organ xml files that I make in Musescore (I find it a lot esaier to write with a direct reading of what I' doing, then to load the xml files in Frescodaldi to get the graphical output). I get this error message: The file couldn't be converted. Error

Re: OT? Error importing Organ xml files made in Musescore

2014-06-24 Thread Richard Shann
in Musescore (I find it a lot esaier to write with a direct reading of what I' doing, then to load the xml files in Frescodaldi to get the graphical output). I get this error message: The file couldn't be converted. Error message: musicxml2ly: Lettura di MusicXML da /home/vincent/Musica/Cancella

MuseScore Front End

2014-02-03 Thread SoundsFromSound
Hey everyone, I'm sorry if this is a stupid question. I have never used MuseScore before and I've looked into it quickly tonight. I'm confused about one aspect of it - does it actually /use /LilyPond for it's engraving? Or is it a completely separate and stand-alone engraving software

Re: MuseScore Front End

2014-02-03 Thread Graeme Lee
Hi Ben. It's stand-alone (like Sibelius/Finale). I used it before I knew better, I mean, knew about Lilypond. Graeme On 4-Feb 13:08, SoundsFromSound wrote: Hey everyone, I'm sorry if this is a stupid question. I have never used MuseScore before and I've looked into it quickly tonight. I'm

Re: MuseScore Front End

2014-02-03 Thread SoundsFromSound
Graeme Lee wrote Hi Ben. It's stand-alone (like Sibelius/Finale). I used it before I knew better, I mean, knew about Lilypond. Graeme On 4-Feb 13:08, SoundsFromSound wrote: Hey everyone, I'm sorry if this is a stupid question. I have never used MuseScore before and I've looked

Re: MuseScore Front End

2014-02-03 Thread Graeme Lee
Hi Graeme, Oh ok thanks! I couldn't quite tell for sure because at a /quick /glance MuseScore output looks a little like Lilypond, but then again once you /really /look, not really at all. My eyes were clearly playing tricks on me I guess. Ben Musescore uses the feta font (slightly modified

Re: MuseScore Front End

2014-02-03 Thread SoundsFromSound
Graeme Lee wrote Hi Graeme, Oh ok thanks! I couldn't quite tell for sure because at a /quick /glance MuseScore output looks a little like Lilypond, but then again once you /really /look, not really at all. My eyes were clearly playing tricks on me I guess. Ben Musescore uses the feta

Re: MuseScore Front End

2014-02-03 Thread Federico Bruni
Il 04/feb/2014 03:09 SoundsFromSound soundsfromso...@gmail.com ha scritto: Hey everyone, I'm sorry if this is a stupid question. I have never used MuseScore before and I've looked into it quickly tonight. I'm confused about one aspect of it - does it actually /use /LilyPond for it's

Re: MuseScore Front End

2014-02-03 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Federico Bruni writes: Some weeks ago it's been reported here a tweet saying that MuseScore developers will drop the lilypond export and focus on musicxml export. Yes, I had a chat about that with Thomas Bonte. LilyPond export was in dire need of some love and the best thing to do with code

Re: export to musescore

2013-11-13 Thread Peter Bjuhr
On 11/13/2013 12:00 PM, Peter Bjuhr wrote: On 11/12/2013 09:40 AM, Urs Liska wrote: the way to go would be MusicXML export. While this wish has popped up every now and then for years, Peter Bjuhr has just started to give it an actual try. We don't know how far this will get, but it will at

export to musescore

2013-11-12 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear community, is there a way to export lilypond to musescore? I don't want to give up using lilypond, but when I work with students and pupils, I've experienced that they have a lot of difficulties in using lilypond and that they prefer with a gui. All the best Stefan

Re: export to musescore

2013-11-12 Thread Richard Shann
On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 09:40 +0100, Urs Liska wrote: Am 12.11.2013 09:06, schrieb Stefan Thomas: Dear community, is there a way to export lilypond to musescore? I don't want to give up using lilypond, but when I work with students and pupils, I've experienced that they have a lot

Re: export to musescore

2013-11-12 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Richard, I've tried to open a lilypond-file with denemo, but it didn't work, unfortunately. On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 09:40 +0100, Urs Liska wrote: * Am 12.11.2013 09:06, schrieb Stefan Thomas:* * Dear community,* * is there a way to export lilypond to musescore?* * I don't want to give

Re: export to musescore

2013-11-12 Thread Richard Shann
, Urs Liska wrote: Am 12.11.2013 09:06, schrieb Stefan Thomas: Dear community, is there a way to export lilypond to musescore? I don't want to give up using lilypond, but when I work with students and pupils, I've experienced

Re: Comparing LilyPond with Sibelius, Finale, Musescore etc

2013-07-25 Thread Richard Shann
Thank you - The comparison with LilyPond is now up on the Denemo website: http://denemo.org/compareSibelius altogether, these examples (not selected to favor LilyPond, chosen by MuseScore and at random from IMSLP) show the benefit of not trying to typeset note-by-note as the music is entered

Re: Comparing LilyPond with Sibelius, Finale, Musescore etc

2013-07-24 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Richard Shann richard.sh...@virgin.net To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net Cc: Mats Bengtsson mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se; lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 5:49 PM Subject: Re: Comparing LilyPond with Sibelius, Finale, Musescore etc Oh

Re: Comparing LilyPond with Sibelius, Finale, Musescore etc

2013-07-24 Thread Richard Shann
Subject: Re: Comparing LilyPond with Sibelius, Finale, Musescore etc Oh, and, of course, it would be good to see how Sibelius gets on re-importing the attached vocal piece, which was apparently generated on some version of Sibelius. (It came from searching IMSLP for sibelius and musicxml

Re: Comparing LilyPond with Sibelius, Finale, Musescore etc

2013-07-24 Thread arnepe
I do have both Sibelius (7) and Finale (2012), if needed ... cheers Arne -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Comparing-LilyPond-with-Sibelius-Finale-Musescore-etc-tp148220p148387.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: Comparing LilyPond with Sibelius, Finale, Musescore etc

2013-07-24 Thread arnepe
ok and done, both pdf's are on their way. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Comparing-LilyPond-with-Sibelius-Finale-Musescore-etc-tp148220p148392.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: Comparing LilyPond with Sibelius, Finale, Musescore etc

2013-07-24 Thread Richard Shann
lyrics before); if there is any legitimate way of not drawing attention to this bug I would like to hear about it. Only MuseScore has difficulty with this bar, and then only slightly. Richard -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Comparing-LilyPond

Re: Comparing LilyPond with Sibelius, Finale, Musescore etc

2013-07-23 Thread Richard Shann
On Sun, 2013-07-21 at 23:20 +0200, Mats Bengtsson wrote: I have been compiling some examples of LilyPond's typesetting compared with those of well-known alternatives: http://denemo.org/CompareScorewriters If anyone can provide better examples - these are just taken from published

Re: Comparing LilyPond with Sibelius, Finale, Musescore etc

2013-07-23 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Richard Shann richard.sh...@virgin.net To: Mats Bengtsson mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 1:06 PM Subject: Re: Comparing LilyPond with Sibelius, Finale, Musescore etc Well without considerable expense I can't

Re: Comparing LilyPond with Sibelius, Finale, Musescore etc

2013-07-23 Thread Urs Liska
Am 23.07.2013 15:09, schrieb Richard Shann: On Sun, 2013-07-21 at 14:03 +0200, Urs Liska wrote: Am 20.07.2013 17:57, schrieb Richard Shann: I have been compiling some examples of LilyPond's typesetting compared with those of well-known alternatives: http://denemo.org/CompareScorewriters If

Re: Comparing LilyPond with Sibelius, Finale, Musescore etc

2013-07-23 Thread Richard Shann
On Sun, 2013-07-21 at 14:03 +0200, Urs Liska wrote: Am 20.07.2013 17:57, schrieb Richard Shann: I have been compiling some examples of LilyPond's typesetting compared with those of well-known alternatives: http://denemo.org/CompareScorewriters If anyone can provide better examples

Re: Comparing LilyPond with Sibelius, Finale, Musescore etc

2013-07-23 Thread pls
, Finale, Musescore etc Well without considerable expense I can't really test Sibelius or Finale, just report on what others have published in its name. They may have hopeless skills in music typesetting. Where these comparisons are strong is where the comparison is between two imports from

Re: Comparing LilyPond with Sibelius, Finale, Musescore etc

2013-07-23 Thread Richard Shann
:06 PM Subject: Re: Comparing LilyPond with Sibelius, Finale, Musescore etc Well without considerable expense I can't really test Sibelius or Finale, just report on what others have published in its name. They may have hopeless skills in music typesetting. Where these comparisons

Re: Comparing LilyPond with Sibelius, Finale, Musescore etc

2013-07-23 Thread Carl Peterson
. A first stab might be simply exporting scores from the commercial programs in musicXML and then reading them back. I did this with MuseScore http://denemo.org/compare#Example_2 and the gives a good insight into how much hand-tweaking is needed in MuseScore. This would not illustrate the point

Re: Comparing LilyPond with Sibelius, Finale, Musescore etc

2013-07-23 Thread Richard Shann
On Tue, 2013-07-23 at 15:12 +0200, Urs Liska wrote: Am 23.07.2013 15:09, schrieb Richard Shann: On Sun, 2013-07-21 at 14:03 +0200, Urs Liska wrote: Am 20.07.2013 17:57, schrieb Richard Shann: I have been compiling some examples of LilyPond's typesetting compared with those of well-known

Re: Comparing LilyPond with Sibelius, Finale, Musescore etc

2013-07-23 Thread Richard Shann
exporting scores from the commercial programs in musicXML and then reading them back. I did this with MuseScore http://denemo.org/compare#Example_2 and the gives a good insight into how much hand-tweaking is needed in MuseScore. This would

Re: Comparing LilyPond with Sibelius, Finale, Musescore etc

2013-07-23 Thread Carl Peterson
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Richard Shann richard.sh...@virgin.netwrote: On Tue, 2013-07-23 at 13:01 -0400, Carl Peterson wrote: This may be what you're getting at with the musicXML idea, but what about doing what we usually do to demonstrate lilypond...take a reference score, and set

Re: Comparing LilyPond with Sibelius, Finale, Musescore etc

2013-07-23 Thread Alex Yoder
- From: Richard Shann richard.sh...@virgin.net To: Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:11 PM Subject: Re: Comparing LilyPond with Sibelius, Finale, Musescore etc On Tue, 2013-07-23 at 15:12 +0200, Urs Liska wrote: Am 23.07.2013 15:09

Re: Comparing LilyPond with Sibelius, Finale, Musescore etc

2013-07-23 Thread Phil Holmes
Sib 7. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Alex Yoder To: Phil Holmes Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 7:45 PM Subject: Re: Comparing LilyPond with Sibelius, Finale, Musescore etc Which version of Sibelius? I believe it was Sibelius 7

Re: Comparing LilyPond with Sibelius, Finale, Musescore etc

2013-07-23 Thread Urs Liska
Am 23.07.2013 19:11, schrieb Richard Shann: On Tue, 2013-07-23 at 15:12 +0200, Urs Liska wrote: Am 23.07.2013 15:09, schrieb Richard Shann: On Sun, 2013-07-21 at 14:03 +0200, Urs Liska wrote: Am 20.07.2013 17:57, schrieb Richard Shann: I have been compiling some examples of LilyPond's

Re: Comparing LilyPond with Sibelius, Finale, Musescore etc

2013-07-21 Thread Urs Liska
Am 20.07.2013 17:57, schrieb Richard Shann: I have been compiling some examples of LilyPond's typesetting compared with those of well-known alternatives: http://denemo.org/CompareScorewriters If anyone can provide better examples - these are just taken from published work that I could find

Re: Comparing LilyPond with Sibelius, Finale, Musescore etc

2013-07-21 Thread Mats Bengtsson
I have been compiling some examples of LilyPond's typesetting compared with those of well-known alternatives: http://denemo.org/CompareScorewriters If anyone can provide better examples - these are just taken from published work that I could find with a quick search - then please let me know

Comparing LilyPond with Sibelius, Finale, Musescore etc

2013-07-20 Thread Richard Shann
I have been compiling some examples of LilyPond's typesetting compared with those of well-known alternatives: http://denemo.org/CompareScorewriters If anyone can provide better examples - these are just taken from published work that I could find with a quick search - then please let me know -

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-31 Thread Urs Liska
We'll think about this (and some more, when I'm back and we're ready with our current job ...). OK, Janek? Best Urs Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com schrieb: On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:31 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:  There are also a few advantages [of using MuseScore

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-31 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote: We'll think about this (and some more, when I'm back and we're ready with our current job ...). OK, Janek? ok ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-30 Thread Ben Luo
Totally agree Wasil. A beautiful sheet, the syntax is only very small part. Lilypond make other default setting great. We just focus on music and syntax. These are the key of music. On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Wasil Sergejczyk szelga@gmail.comwrote: There is a chance, but only when

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-30 Thread mike
On 29 mai 2012, at 23:56, Lucas Gonze wrote: On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Nils l...@nilsgey.de wrote: AFAIK musescore dropped Lilypond export support because of a lack of interest and in favour of musicXML (whatever that means, I read it somewhere on the musescore twitter account

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-30 Thread Carl Sorensen
Jan Nieuwenhuizen janneke at gnu.org writes: Wouldn't LilyPond have been a technically superior choice for this sponsoring project? What are we missing? Somebody who was willing to run a Kickstarter project and make it happen. The people who put the project together choose their tools,

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-30 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Sorensen carl.d.soren...@gmail.com writes: Jan Nieuwenhuizen janneke at gnu.org writes: Wouldn't LilyPond have been a technically superior choice for this sponsoring project? What are we missing? Somebody who was willing to run a Kickstarter project and make it happen. It is not

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-30 Thread Lucas Gonze
, given the idea that the soul of Lilypond is engraving, I don't know if having musescore import Lilypond syntax is absolutely necessary or even absolutely possible. For them to do that would require using Lilypond as a library and constantly updating the import routines. The insane and incredible

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-30 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:31 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:  There are also a few advantages [of using MuseScore]: a) MusicXML export means the results are usable in a variety of notation   programs making use of an open standard. Indeed, having MusicXML exprort can give Lily more

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-30 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 17:31:49 +0200 From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: musescore lands sponsoring? Message-ID: 87fwahu1lm@fencepost.gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain Carl Sorensen carl.d.soren...@gmail.com writes: Jan

musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Just to make sure you have seen http://www.opengoldbergvariations.org/b-sendorfer-sponsors-open-goldberg-project-providing-concert-grand-ceus-recording-technology-0 Wouldn't LilyPond have been a technically superior choice for this sponsoring project? What are we missing? Jan -- Jan

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On 29 mai 2012, at 09:56, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: Just to make sure you have seen http://www.opengoldbergvariations.org/b-sendorfer-sponsors-open-goldberg-project-providing-concert-grand-ceus-recording-technology-0 Wouldn't LilyPond have been a technically superior choice for this

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread David Kastrup
m...@apollinemike.com m...@apollinemike.com writes: On 29 mai 2012, at 09:56, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: Just to make sure you have seen http://www.opengoldbergvariations.org/b-sendorfer-sponsors-open-goldberg-project-providing-concert-grand-ceus-recording-technology-0 Wouldn't

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread Nils
On Tue, 29 May 2012 11:15:08 +0200 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: A SponsorshipMeister is dangerously close to the premise that we can turn money into LilyPond. The truth is that we can turn enthusiasm into LilyPond. Money does prevent enthusiasm from working at a gas station. Nil

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
David Kastrup writes: We're missing consensus. I think that if there were a SponsorshipMeister, not unlike the BugMeister, we could do really cool stuff like this. Besides the monetary aid, this brings huge recognition to the community and gets a lot of people on board. A

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread David Kastrup
Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org writes: David Kastrup writes: We're missing consensus. I think that if there were a SponsorshipMeister, not unlike the BugMeister, we could do really cool stuff like this. Besides the monetary aid, this brings huge recognition to the community and gets a

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread Federico Bruni
of the MuseScore workflow) Or it's about the input? If it's technically superior because it's text-based, I would agree with you for a number of reasons. In this particular case, there's another benefit: no need to write from scratch because Golden Variations are in Mutopia http://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread David Kastrup
Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com writes: 2012/5/29 Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org: Just to make sure you have seen    http://www.opengoldbergvariations.org/b-sendorfer-sponsors-open-goldberg-project-providing-concert-grand-ceus-recording-technology-0 Wouldn't LilyPond have been a

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread Rodolfo Zitellini
that writing a .ly file would have allowed better tweaking? (I have no idea of the MuseScore workflow) Or it's about the input? If it's technically superior because it's text-based, I would agree with you for a number of reasons. In this particular case, there's another benefit: no need to write from

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread Janek Warchoł
LilyPond output. Can you confirm? http://www.opengoldbergvariations.org/node/191 This isn't Lily output, it's directly from MuseScore. You were fooled by the fact that MuseScore uses our Feta font. Last year I was thinking about trying to introduce LilyPond in some music schools in my area

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread Federico Bruni
2012/5/29 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com: What do you mean with technically superior? It's about the output? I think it's LilyPond output. Can you confirm? http://www.opengoldbergvariations.org/node/191 This isn't Lily output, it's directly from MuseScore. You were fooled by the fact

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
superior choice for this sponsoring project? Yes, certainly. What are we missing? Werner is a crack coder, just look at https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore to see how he cranked this out in just 3 days. kidding aside, I think a GUI appeals to more people, both developers, users and passers-by (I

Re: musescore lands sponsoring?

2012-05-29 Thread Marc Weber
cases when printing - but exporting to lilypond seems to work in all (little) cases I tried. Thus for simple cases I like that combination: musescore for typing and lilypond for rendering. Sponsorings are not always easy to understand :( Marc Weber

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