Re: Windows costs more - official

2002-07-18 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello from Gregg C Levine Actually no one invented the Internet. It was invented by the government to solve a big problem during the Cold War. How to send orders to our troops, in the advent of an attack. Of course that was before they knew about EMP. Take a look at the book, "Cuckoo's Egg

Re: Windows costs more - official

2002-07-18 Thread paultz
> Of course, Bill G has claimed that he _invented_ the internet. > Well, he's certainly helped drag it down using "Outage Express John, No, that's not right, is it? I'm pretty sure it was Al Gore who invented the internet! ;-) Paul

Re: Windows costs more - official

2002-07-18 Thread paultz
>> >>I wonder what the odds of an MS-Linux distribution are? >> >> Even if they came up with one --- would you really want it??? >I wouldn't touch it, but lots would. Probably enough to swamp the rest of us. John, You don't see a MS Linux ending up in the CEMENT mix, do you? A "hardened" Linux

Re: Windows costs more - official

2002-07-18 Thread soup
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > IBM has fought hard in recent years to change its corporate image, > > and has succeeded. > > It must be admitted that IBM had a little encouragement. Yes, it's called "competition". I heard one fellow tell me at Solutions 2000 (out in Lost Wages,

Re: Mainframe skill shortage

2002-07-18 Thread Post, Mark K
The fact that this impending "crisis" is more than a couple of fiscal quarters away means that it will be ignored. There are still companies that are laying off mainframe folks because they don't think they need them right now. Y2K was a much bigger problem, and look how long most companies wait

Re: ZIPL error after kernel upgrade to 2.4.17

2002-07-18 Thread p43cibmgs-Arden
I am also trying to get zipl running (with a config file) on 2.4.17. I have the patch mentioned here, but part of the patch says to extract files from the parsecfg-3.6.7 package. Does anyone know where that package can be found? I didn't find it on the Suse CDs. I tried google, which aimed me at s

Re: NFS pb while using OSA Gigabit at 2nd level of VM

2002-07-18 Thread Elisabeth Terseur
We were using virtual Hipersockets as for now we (unfortunately) may run only on a G6 system... which is NOT supporting real Hipersockets Amicalement/Best Regards... Elisabeth Terseur/France/IBM@IBMFR EMEA Product & Solutions Support Center mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +33 4 67346198 (38 6

Status of LinuxKorea?

2002-07-18 Thread Post, Mark K
I'm going through the links on linuxvm.org, trying to keep things clean. I'm having problems connecting to the linux390.linuxkorea.co.kr ftp server. Their website, www.linuxkorea.co.kr still has pointers to the ftp server, but I'm wondering if anyone knows if that system is still active or not, or

Re: NFS pb while using OSA Gigabit at 2nd level of VM

2002-07-18 Thread John Summerfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > -RedHat Linux for S/390 version 7.2 running the 2.4.9 kernel Elisabeth (taking great care with the spelling!) This may seem to you picky, but not all 2.4.9 kernels, even from the same vendor, are the same. I am running Red Hat Linux 7.3 on my desktop. I have thes

Re: Windows costs more - official

2002-07-18 Thread John Summerfield
> >>I wonder what the odds of an MS-Linux distribution are? > > Even if they came up with one --- would you really want it??? I wouldn't touch it, but lots would. Probably enough to swamp the rest of us. -- Cheers John Summerfield Microsoft's most solid OS: http://www.geocities.com/rcwoolley/ N

Re: Windows costs more - official

2002-07-18 Thread John Summerfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > IBM has fought hard in recent years to change its corporate image, > and has succeeded. It must be admitted that IBM had a little encouragement. In those days I enjoyed reading in Datamation about IBM's latest difficulties. I don't seem to see as many reports of thos

Re: Sendmail

2002-07-18 Thread John Summerfield
> Question for the group mind. > > We have been trying to get smtp on os/390 to do some batch e-mail sending. > > The problem was that the e-mails would always include the dns name of the > tcp/ip address associated with that OS/390 image > Where (in which headers) should this name appear?

Re: Mainframe skill shortage

2002-07-18 Thread Terrence W. Zellers
> > "Indeed, there's no new mainframe blood on the way. Donald Carr, professor > > of Computer Information Systems for Eastern Kentucky University, estimates > > that 90,000 COBOL programmers maintain legacy systems today. Meta Group > > reports that more than half of today's mainframe pros are at

listserv - sendmail problem

2002-07-18 Thread Michael K Lambert
Hello everyone, We have recently migrated a listserv server to linux/390. At first it appeared to work flawlessly, but it soon began to exhibit strange behavior. Messages will sporadically build in listserv's spool directory and are never delivered. There are entries in the maillog that correspon

parsecfg download location, was Re: ZIPL error after kernel upgrade to 2.4.17

2002-07-18 Thread Stefan Gybas
p43cibmgs-Arden wrote: > I am also trying to get zipl running (with a config file) on 2.4.17. I have the > patch mentioned here, but part of the patch says to extract files from the > parsecfg-3.6.7 package. Does anyone know where that package can be found? You can download it from any of the 25

Re: NFS pb while using OSA Gigabit at 2nd level of VM

2002-07-18 Thread Elisabeth Terseur
I was thinking of defining the Linux NFS server with V=R Then I've 8 VM guests , so I can't define all of them as V=F. And as the system is dedicated for them, I don't really see what I will get more Amicalement/Best Regards... Elisabeth Terseur/France/IBM@IBMFR EMEA Product & Solutions

Re: NFS pb while using OSA Gigabit at 2nd level of VM

2002-07-18 Thread Vic Cross
On 19.07.2002 at 00:20:54, Elisabeth Terseur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -what about using VM technology?? adding a new VMGuest just take a > few minutes, compared to adding a new LPAR, which supposes that you\'ve one > spare... > > Running workshops is much easier when you can capitalize

3rd level Linux with an OSA express card

2002-07-18 Thread Elisabeth Terseur
Ronald Van Der Laan wrote (in a personal note): ...maybe you can use guest LANs with virtual QDIO devices (possibly defined on 1st level and attached to 2nd level) simulating a Gb device? In fact, for now, this is the only true circumvention that we used, defining Hipersockets, and installing (w

Re: NFS pb while using OSA Gigabit at 2nd level of VM

2002-07-18 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 07/18/2002 at 03:58 ZE2, Elisabeth Terseur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ==>Definitively, this is NOT "the way we've always done it around here"... > This, for sure, > is not our rule, here, where we try to be at the edge of technology. > We are not talking about running a production

Re: LDAP Errors

2002-07-18 Thread Post, Mark K
>From http://linuxvm.org/ : 06/23/2002 - Jim Elliott published the URLs to three new IBM Redpapers. The titles are: Getting Started with zSeries Fibre Channel Protocol Linux on IBM zSeries and S/390: High Availability for z/VM and Linux Linux on IBM zSeries and S/390: Securing Linux for

Re: LDAP Errors

2002-07-18 Thread Peter E. Abresch Jr. - at Pepco
I was using the most recent version. The ACF2 version is officially called eTrust LDAP Server for OS/390 and z/OSversion 2.0 Where can I find the IBM Redpaper. Thanks. Peter "Post, Mark K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: Linux on 390 Port <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 07/18/2002 10:02 AM Please resp

Re: NFS pb while using OSA Gigabit at 2nd level of VM

2002-07-18 Thread Elisabeth Terseur
Thanks Michael! for those clarifications I forgot in fact to mention what's in your last paragraph: >remember that LPAR is really nothing more than a stripped down version >of VM's CP in microcode form We'll have to recreate a pure VM fan club in case it's not yet done, of course! Amical

Re: NFS pb while using OSA Gigabit at 2nd level of VM

2002-07-18 Thread Elisabeth Terseur
Vic Cross wrote: I can accept that VM shops traditionally would use second-level systems for testing/training, but it looks like there are some real issues with running Linux (at least the installation systems) as guests of a second-level VM. Not meaning to be too critical, but is the need to run

Re: LDAP Errors

2002-07-18 Thread James Melin
Mark, do you have a link to this redpaper? |-+> | | "Post, Mark K" | | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | m> | | | Sent by: Linux on| | | 390 Port | |

ddr/reorder

2002-07-18 Thread Todd Blevins
Can you reorder cylinders on a linux volume using DDR: copy 1 to 3337 reorder 0 I want to dedicate a volume to a virtual machine instead of having to mount it to the system and link it. I currently have a volume that is tailored that way and i was hoping that i could just ddr/reorder, but at bo

Re: NFS pb while using OSA Gigabit at 2nd level of VM

2002-07-18 Thread Coffin Michael C
Arrgh! See what happens when you post to lists BEFORE morning coffee? Thanks Mark and apologies to Vic for missing the point of your post. Michael Coffin, VM Systems Programmer Internal Revenue Service - Room 6527 Constitution Avenue, N.W. Washington, D.C. 20224 Voice: (202) 927-4188 F

Re: NFS pb while using OSA Gigabit at 2nd level of VM

2002-07-18 Thread Robert J Brenneman
Elisabeth, Do you still have that SuSE system installed or available to run as a 3rd level system? It may be helpful to bring it up and get the qdio and qeth driver versions from /var/log/messages and compare them with the version numbers from the failing RedHat system. Perhaps there's a clu

Re: LDAP Errors

2002-07-18 Thread Post, Mark K
Peter, I've just about finished working my way through the IBM Redpaper "Securing Linux for zSeries with a Central z/OS (RACF) LDAP Server." They talk about most, if not all, of your issues. RACF also does a one-way encryption of passwords. The RACF/LDAP combination also does not allow an anon

Re: NFS pb while using OSA Gigabit at 2nd level of VM

2002-07-18 Thread Post, Mark K
Mike, He was talking about running another VM in a different LPAR, not just running one Linux/390 in another LPAR. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Coffin Michael C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 9:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NFS pb while using O

Mainframe skill shortage

2002-07-18 Thread Colman Fink
> "Indeed, there's no new mainframe blood on the way. Donald Carr, professor > of Computer Information Systems for Eastern Kentucky University, estimates > that 90,000 COBOL programmers maintain legacy systems today. Meta Group > reports that more than half of today's mainframe pros are at least 5

Re: NFS pb while using OSA Gigabit at 2nd level of VM

2002-07-18 Thread Coffin Michael C
I can think of lots of reasons NOT to use an LPAR for a test/development system (i.e. dedicated LPAR memory per LPAR versus VM's management of all memory, real hardware required to connect across LPAR's versus VCTC's and IUCV on VM, easier management of guests under VM from any location versus pre

Re: NFS pb while using OSA Gigabit at 2nd level of VM

2002-07-18 Thread Vic Cross
On 18.07.2002 at 19:51:26, Elisabeth Terseur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -and last but not least: I really have to install at second level of > VM this is the environment we provide here for tests and education... I can accept that VM shops traditionally would use second-level systems

Package Install problems using YAST

2002-07-18 Thread Frank DeGilio
I installed a package using YAST and I was having problems with it. I decided to uninstall the package and re-install it. I tried to uninstall it using rpm and couldn't; rpm said the package wasn't installed. I ended up uninstalling the package from YAST. I then installed the package from the

Interesting Articles

2002-07-18 Thread Ferguson, Neale
1. Wall Street's Secret Affair With Linux See: "http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-07-17-023-26-NW-BZ-HE"; "Wall Street's big brokerage houses, always on the lookout for new technology that might give them an edge over the competition, are turning to Linux in a big way. While Linux

Re: NFS pb while using OSA Gigabit at 2nd level of VM

2002-07-18 Thread Elisabeth Terseur
MTU is defaulted, so to 1500, which is also the limit in our network due to some hardware limits... NFS server is a Linux image running as a guest of first level VM, implementing SuSE distribution (7.2). Never tried install via http/ftp on this environment. Will try sometime. Elisabeth wrote: >

Re: Crosspost: DISKMAP and Linux

2002-07-18 Thread David Heilman
When I was working with VM on a regular basis I would define all volumes in user direct. Then I would remove the full volume entry when I added a mini disk. This way I would see all the volumes in diskmap. It's simple and it worked for me. Dave Gerhard Herold wrote: >Hi Lionel, > >define a Mini

Re: Hang with SLES7 on z/VM 4.3

2002-07-18 Thread Philip J. Tully
Rob, At this point I needed to verify where it was installed! Now to drive the Vstor down. Again thanks for the help. Phil Rob van der Heij wrote: > > At 18:43 17-07-02, Philip J. Tully wrote: > > >I appreciate your comments: We have the timer patch installed across 17 > >out of 18 linux images

Re: NFS pb while using OSA Gigabit at 2nd level of VM

2002-07-18 Thread Florian La Roche
> -and last but not least: I really have to install at second level of > VM this is the environment we provide here for tests and education... > and we'd like our customers to be able to install the way they want... > means also via NFS thru an OSA Gb adapter > that's it! You can ea

Re: NFS pb while using OSA Gigabit at 2nd level of VM

2002-07-18 Thread Elisabeth Terseur
Gregg C Levine wrote: Hello from Gregg C Levine Okay, thank you for clarifying that issue Elisabeth Terseur. It happens that John Summerfield corrected me on the spelling of your first name, in a private note to me. So I apologize here, and in public for goofing like that. He reminded me, regardi

Re: Windows costs more - official

2002-07-18 Thread Steve Oswald
http://www.mslinux.org ;-). On Wednesday 17 July 2002 11:17 pm, Phil Payne wrote: > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/26230.html > > > > I wonder what the odds of an MS-Linux distribution are? > > Where would they get all the bugs? -- Steven J. Oswald Systems Consulting Engineer OzTech

Re: NFS pb while using OSA Gigabit at 2nd level of VM

2002-07-18 Thread Elisabeth Terseur
Well, Mark, thanks for this very good idea. In fact, I already thought about that, BUT: -what guaranties do I get that RedHat will use correctly the OSA card at 2nd level (performance issue is not fixed)? none I guess. -what about future upgrages of Linux images? if still using OSA car

Re: Linux Telnet Connections Dropping

2002-07-18 Thread Rob van der Heij
At 23:44 17-07-02, Hank Calzaretta wrote: >zVM over VCTCs. I am intermittently, a few times an hour, seeing Telnet >sessions being disconnected from one or more Linux instances. The users can >reconnect after waiting about 30-60 seconds. The output of the VM IND >command shows low CPU usage an