Re: Linux question re: kernel update

2003-03-05 Thread Rob van der Heij
Doug Clark wrote: I received an error message trying to run a configure script for LVM. One message I saw stated that I should Consider using the --with-kernel_dir flag and I have seen the use with-kernel_dir flag comment is other documentation. I have a slight feeling it meant to complain that

Re: Gnome

2003-03-05 Thread Kenneth Illingsworth
Thanks. I believe that I made it through about half of those, and then gave up. I was just surprised that GNOME wasn't somehow more 'self-contained' like the MySQL or Webmin rpm's were. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/04/03 06:07PM On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 18:08, Post, Mark K wrote: Welcome to RPM.

Re: Gnome

2003-03-05 Thread Alan Cox
On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 13:19, Kenneth Illingsworth wrote: Thanks. I believe that I made it through about half of those, and then gave up. I was just surprised that GNOME wasn't somehow more 'self-contained' like the MySQL or Webmin rpm's were. Gnome is in many parts for two reasons 1.

2003-03-05 Updates to DeveloperWorks pages

2003-03-05 Thread Gerhard Hiller
Please see the What's New page at: http://www10.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/linux390/whatsnew.shtml for a change summary of the 2003-03-05 additions and changes to the Linux for zSeries and S/390 DeveloperWorks pages. - Performance Hints and Tips - August 2001 stream: o

Re: NOT disabled wait

2003-03-05 Thread Loren Charnley, Jr.
Instead of #cp disconnect use #cp logoff or go to your maint machine and force the instance off. This will make sure that you are not leaving anything hanging. Loren Charnley, Jr. Tech Support Administrator Family Dollar Stores, Inc. Phone: (704) 847-6961 Ext. 2000 -Original Message-

Re: Upgrading QDIO, QETH on SuSE Linux 2.4.7 SMP

2003-03-05 Thread Sergey Korzhevsky
Add to /etc/modules.conf line insmod_opt=-f Then try new drivers. If it won't help, get to us your /etc/chandev.conf WBR, Sergey Alan Schilla [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04.03.2003 22:53 Please respond to Linux on 390 Port To:

Re: Kernel patch to add VM IPL PARM support

2003-03-05 Thread Richard Troth
Leland, The effect of PARMREGS=0-15 on the DEFSYS is the default for DEFSYS if no PARMREGS was specified, and the behaviour of your NSS then is similar to IPL from device, *except* that omitting PARMREGS from DEFSYS sets up an NSS for which the regs are not zeroed out before filling with PARM

add_vipa4 Syntax ?

2003-03-05 Thread Seifert, Harald
I'm trying to use a TCP/IP VIPA defined as a dummy device with OSA-express. The dummy device is up and running. I can ping it within my Linux; but I can't do that from outside yet. I have tried the add_vipa4 command in the following way echo add_vipa4 .. /proc/qeth_ipa_takeover #

Re: Gnome

2003-03-05 Thread Fargusson.Alan
I sympathize with you. I tried to get Gnome working on an iMac and a G4 Macintosh, with SuSE Linux. Both were failures. I didn't have any success with KDE either. I think this is the main reason people still use Windows. It is just to hard to get GUI working on Linux. On the up side, my

Re: Gnome

2003-03-05 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello from Gregg C Levine That's decidedly very interesting. And yes, I sympathize with you, as well. But here, I have gotten a GUI to work on my Slackware Linux setup. Each time, it has been either a native X-Windows, or that of KDE, or once, or twice Gnome. Yes, it is difficult. Tux, wants

Re: Gnome

2003-03-05 Thread James Melin
What is the problem you were having? My experience has been just the opposite. With Redhat, SuSE, and Slackware I was able to get a GUI pretty much 'out of the box'. Some twiddling was needed with Slackware. Nothing rocket science. |-+ | |

Re: Kernel patch to add VM IPL PARM support

2003-03-05 Thread Adam Thornton
On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 12:35:40AM -0600, Lucius, Leland wrote: http://www.homerow.net/projects/zlinux/vmparms.htm Doesn't apply cleanly for me. My kernel source has the following patches applied, in order: linux-2.4.19-s390-may2002.diff linux-2.4.19-timer-may2002.diff

Re: Kernel patch to add VM IPL PARM support

2003-03-05 Thread Adam Thornton
However, patch -F 3 allows it to go on. Adam

Re: add_vipa4 Syntax ?

2003-03-05 Thread Sergey Korzhevsky
Try that format add_vipa4 addr:interface WBR, Sergey Seifert, Harald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05.03.2003 18:15 Please respond to Linux on 390 Port To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:

add_vipa4 and add4

2003-03-05 Thread Sergey Korzhevsky
What is the difference between this commands? My linux has OSA (eth) and hsi interfaces. And OSA isn't primary router. So, what should i do, to connect Hipersocket's network with outside LAN through my Linux eth interface? WBR, Sergey

Re: Gnome

2003-03-05 Thread Fargusson.Alan
On the G4 there was a problem with the video card driver that required a rebuild of the kernel, which I could not do because there was a problem with the video card driver that required a rebuild of the kernel... I could not work around this because the video would not even work in character

Re: NOT disabled wait

2003-03-05 Thread Post, Mark K
What shutdown command are you using? The one I use is: shutdown -h now Mark Post -Original Message- From: Naoshi Kubo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: NOT disabled wait I have a question about shutdown linux. I

Re: Upgrading QDIO, QETH on SuSE Linux 2.4.7 SMP

2003-03-05 Thread Alan Schilla
Thanks Sergey. I am not sure where the parm below would be added to modules.conf andI tried a couple of different things but I still do not get the QETH interface. I also tried an insmod -f qdio and insmod -f qeth and it still gave the version mismatch message but it appeared to be more a warning

S/390 RedHat Shared DASD

2003-03-05 Thread Richard W. Lauck, Cornerstone Systems, Inc.
How many are sharing DASD between Linux and OS LPARs rather than having a few volumes dedicated to the Linux LPAR?.What effects of the Linux autosensing all shared devices and causing sharing problems that IBM warns about have you seen? Is just having something like dasd=192-194,200 in the

SSH key and cloning linux images

2003-03-05 Thread Aria Bamdad
Hi, During a fresh linux install, the installation program seems to generate a key for SSH and perhaps other applications. If I use this install and to clone multiple linux images, how do I or do I need to re-generate this key? It seems to me that if I don't, then they cloned systems would all

Websphere

2003-03-05 Thread Mark D Pace
I am about to do a trial with Websphere. Do I also need to go ahead and download the IBMJava2 JRE also or is a JRE included with Websphere? Thanks. Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office:

Re: SSH key and cloning linux images

2003-03-05 Thread Post, Mark K
Yes, that would be a problem. What you should do is delete the ssh key files after the cloning has been done. The first startup of the daemon should generate new key files. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Aria Bamdad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 1:53 PM

Re: SSH key and cloning linux images

2003-03-05 Thread Richard Troth
Good question!! Strictly speaking, to be able to connect, you do not have to re-generate these keys. But that results in the same key fingerprinting multiple hosts, which is really not what you want: each host should have a unique fingerprint. Re-creating them is easy: ssh-keygen

Re: SSH key and cloning linux images

2003-03-05 Thread Adam Thornton
On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 01:52:33PM -0500, Aria Bamdad wrote: During a fresh linux install, the installation program seems to generate a key for SSH and perhaps other applications. If I use this install and to clone multiple linux images, how do I or do I need to re-generate this key? It

Re: DB2 Connect Enterprise Edition for Linux/Zseries

2003-03-05 Thread Mackey, Glenn
Yes, DB2 was installed. I do not remember the screen now to know if I had an option, but it did get DB2 installed. We have Websphere, and were told to install DB2 for websphere, and not use the DB2 which comes with websphere. In V7.x DB2Connect EE, the administration server (DAS) was installed, I

Re: SSH key and cloning linux images

2003-03-05 Thread Alex deVries
Here's how it works: The SSH package's startup script, (/etc/rc.d/init.d/sshd on Red Hat), runs the following: KEYGEN=/usr/bin/ssh-keygen RSA_KEY=/etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key ... if [ ! -s $RSA_KEY ]; then echo -n $Generating SSH2 RSA host key: if $KEYGEN -q -t

Re: Kernel patch to add VM IPL PARM support

2003-03-05 Thread Adam Thornton
The patch seems to work, although I tend to get junk at the end of the parm line if I specify it, and the capitalization all goes away. For example, if I do ipl deb24m parm line VMPOFF='IPL CMS' what shows up is Kernel command line: root=/dev/dasd/0150/part1 ro noinitrd dasd=0150-015f

Re: SSH key and cloning linux images

2003-03-05 Thread Hall, Ken (ECSS)
Delete the key members from /etc/ssh, and reboot. The init script will regenerate new keys. -Original Message- From: Aria Bamdad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 1:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LINUX-390] SSH key and cloning linux images Hi,

Re: Websphere

2003-03-05 Thread Rob Schwartz
Mark, JRE needs to be installed prior to the WAS install. I'm going through the same process. I am following the silent install method which is based on a RESPONSEFILE.TXT in which all the install options are coded. I had some problems with the install.sh and firststeps.sh scripts.They

Re: Gnome

2003-03-05 Thread Per Jessen
On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 08:45:29 -0800, Fargusson.Alan wrote: I think this is the main reason people still use Windows. It is just to hard to get GUI working on Linux. Oh, please. Try www.knoppix.org - download a CD-image, burn a CD, then boot your system from CD. Works fine. A couple of weeks ago,

Re: add_vipa4 and add4

2003-03-05 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 03/05/2003 at 07:54 ZE2, Sergey Korzhevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the difference between this commands? My linux has OSA (eth) and hsi interfaces. And OSA isn't primary router. So, what should i do, to connect Hipersocket's network with outside LAN through my Linux eth

Re: Websphere

2003-03-05 Thread Rich Smrcina
A JVM comes with WebSphere. On Wednesday 05 March 2003 01:07 pm, you wrote: I am about to do a trial with Websphere. Do I also need to go ahead and download the IBMJava2 JRE also or is a JRE included with Websphere? Thanks. Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information

Re: Websphere

2003-03-05 Thread Mark D Pace
JRE needs to be installed prior to the WAS install. I'm going through the same process. I am following the silent install method which is based on a RESPONSEFILE.TXT in which all the install options are coded. I had some problems with the install.sh and firststeps.sh scripts.They are

Re: Websphere

2003-03-05 Thread Mark D Pace
A JVM comes with WebSphere. Rich JRE needs to be installed prior to the WAS install. rob Best 2 out of 3? ;) Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 850.219.5184 Fax: 850.219.5050

Re: Kernel patch to add VM IPL PARM support

2003-03-05 Thread Lucius, Leland
My kernel source has the following patches applied, in order: linux-2.4.19-s390-may2002.diff linux-2.4.19-timer-may2002.diff linux-2.4.19-s390-1-may2002.diff linux-2.4.19-s390-2-may2002.diff linux-2.4.19-s390-3-may2002.diff That's weird. I just rebuilt a source tree using the patches

Re: SSH key and cloning linux images

2003-03-05 Thread Rob van der Heij
Hall, Ken (ECSS) wrote: Delete the key members from /etc/ssh, and reboot. Well, for ssh. You will probably find more. I think you should clone your system earlier in the process, before anything has been running. That will also prevent last logon dates of the wrong system, syslogd files of

Re: Websphere

2003-03-05 Thread Rob Schwartz
I'm doing a silent install. ./install.sh -options /RESPONSEFILE.TXT Before JRE was installed on my instance I get the following errors. InstallShield Wizard Initializing InstallShield Wizard... Searching for Java(tm) Virtual Machine...

Re: add_vipa4 Syntax ?

2003-03-05 Thread Rob van der Heij
This is what I wrote (and reading is equally hard I see ;-) vipa () { hx=$(echo obase=16;$2 | tr '.' ';' | bc | \ sed 's/^\([0-9A-F]\)$/0\1/' | tr -d '\n') echo $1 ${hx}:$mydev /proc/qeth_ipa_takeover } We call the thing where $mydev is eth0 or such. ifconfig

Re: Gnome

2003-03-05 Thread Fargusson.Alan
Some people get lucky. That does not make for a system that is easy to install for everyone. -Original Message- From: Per Jessen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gnome On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 08:45:29 -0800,

Re: add_vipa4 and add4

2003-03-05 Thread Adam Thornton
On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 01:34:20PM -0500, Alan Altmark wrote: On Wednesday, 03/05/2003 at 07:54 ZE2, Sergey Korzhevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the difference between this commands? My linux has OSA (eth) and hsi interfaces. And OSA isn't primary router. So, what should i do, to

Re: S/390 RedHat Shared DASD

2003-03-05 Thread Post, Mark K
Richard, I'm not sure exactly what you mean by sharing, in this case. Is it simply having the same DASD in the I/O gen for each LPAR, as opposed to trying to actually share the data? If the latter, don't do that, there's no means to insure data integrity. If the former, I would still advise

Re: Gnome

2003-03-05 Thread Post, Mark K
Or, you could say that some people get unlucky. That doesn't make for a system that is difficult to install for everyone. A few weeks ago, I got handed a Compaq Armada 7800 laptop. I grabbed my Slackware CD, booted up with it, did the install (including KDE) and had things working in about an

Re: add_vipa4 and add4

2003-03-05 Thread Rob van der Heij
Adam Thornton wrote: This must be that new extra-strong cough sirup... WHY, oh WHY can we not have something that's a *DUMB* OSA? Our CPU's are too expensive to be bothered with ARP. I don't want to wake up otherwise idle penguins to ask whether they have recent knowledge about MAC addresses

Re: Gnome

2003-03-05 Thread Fargusson.Alan
Are you telling me that you can guarantee that this will work on any system? Also, I think you missed the part ware I said I was installing on a Macintosh, which knoppix does not support. -Original Message- From: Per Jessen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:40

Re: Gnome

2003-03-05 Thread Per Jessen
On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 13:13:03 -0800, Fargusson.Alan wrote: Some people get lucky. That does not make for a system that is easy to install for everyone. But knoppix does /just/ that. What can be easier than placing the CD in the tray, hit load, then reboot ? No HDD partitioning, no install, no

API to get fullpath name

2003-03-05 Thread Ferguson, Neale
How do I, within a program, get the full pathname of the program I'm executing? argv[0] will have the command name but not necessarily the full pathname.

Re: Gnome

2003-03-05 Thread Alan Cox
On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 18:14, Fargusson.Alan wrote: On the G4 there was a problem with the video card driver that required a rebuild of the kernel, which I could not do because there was a problem with the video card driver that required a rebuild of the kernel... I could not work around this

Re: API to get fullpath name

2003-03-05 Thread Florian La Roche
On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 06:46:55PM -0500, Ferguson, Neale wrote: How do I, within a program, get the full pathname of the program I'm executing? argv[0] will have the command name but not necessarily the full pathname. You can also look at /proc/pid/exe or if argv[] only has partial

Re: API to get fullpath name

2003-03-05 Thread Fargusson.Alan
There is no reliable way. This is true of Unix, and Linux. Tell me what you are trying to do and I will probably be able to tell you a better, and safer way to do it. -Original Message- From: Ferguson, Neale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 3:47 PM To: [EMAIL

Re: API to get fullpath name

2003-03-05 Thread Thomas David Rivers
Ferguson, Neale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I, within a program, get the full pathname of the program I'm executing? argv[0] will have the command name but not necessarily the full pathname. Neale, In general, you have to know the name of the program (argv[0] may be incorrect) and

Re: API to get fullpath name

2003-03-05 Thread Ferguson, Neale
I'm doing stack backtracing and lookup of return addresses per stack frame (using __builtin_frame_address and __builtin_return_address). I use dladdr() to get the name of the object a given entry point is in. I then use the bfd_ routines (part of binutils) to locate the symbols within the

Re: API to get fullpath name

2003-03-05 Thread Ferguson, Neale
How does the command 'which' work? The symbolic link /proc/self/exe will point to the absolute path. -Original Message- In general, you have to know the name of the program (argv[0] may be incorrect) and then have to look at the users PATH environment to find it... That is - you

Re: API to get fullpath name

2003-03-05 Thread Fargusson.Alan
The which command uses the PATH, after checking for builtins, and aliases. -Original Message- From: Ferguson, Neale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 4:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: API to get fullpath name How does the command 'which' work? The

Re: API to get fullpath name

2003-03-05 Thread Richard Troth
This approach does not work if the program is being exec'd and the exec() call sets argv[0] to something strange. Leaving argv[0] set to the original command (then exec()) or setting it to something strange are very useful features of the UNIX API. Good stuff. (But doesn't help

Re: Kernel patch to add VM IPL PARM support

2003-03-05 Thread Lucius, Leland
Sorry, I took so long to get back. Real work go in the way of all my fun today. I hate when that happens. ;-) The patch seems to work, although I tend to get junk at the end of the parm line if I specify it, and the capitalization all goes away. For example, if I do ipl deb24m parm line

Re: Kernel patch to add VM IPL PARM support

2003-03-05 Thread Romney White
Lucius: The string provided by z/VM is terminated by a byte of binary zero, at least according to the CP Command and Utility Reference. If it is, it should be easy to find the end of the values supplied on IPL.I would recommend ensuring the high-order byte of GR0 is zero when the SAVESYS command

Re: API to get fullpath name

2003-03-05 Thread Thomas David Rivers
Ferguson, Neale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How does the command 'which' work? The symbolic link /proc/self/exe will point to the absolute path. 'which' looks at your PATH environment variable - looking for the file name you gave it as a parameter as in, If I were to execute this

Re: API to get fullpath name

2003-03-05 Thread Thomas David Rivers
Richard Troth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This approach does not work if the program is being exec'd and the exec() call sets argv[0] to something strange. Leaving argv[0] set to the original command (then exec()) or setting it to something strange are very useful features of the UNIX

Re: Websphere

2003-03-05 Thread Robert J Brenneman
I've always done the WebSphere 4.0.n installation from a Linux workstation with X and SSH into the z/linux box, so I was able to use the clickey X installer thing. You will want to have that set up to run the admin console from anyway, unless there is some kind of command line admin tool I'm not

Re: API to get fullpath name

2003-03-05 Thread Daniel P. Martin
Take a look at the source for 'lsof' -- you might find some help there. Based on observed behaviour, there's usually an open file descriptor that points to the binary that's being executed. Not a *nix internals guru, -dan. On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Ferguson, Neale wrote: How do I, within a program,

Honest Perspective

2003-03-05 Thread Steven A. Adams
Hey All, Here's the request: I'd really like to get some performance perspective from those individuals that have used WAS under linux, AIX and or MVS. We are getting ready to use WAS and would like to get a view on which platform should yield the best performance from those that have used it.

Re: Kernel patch to add VM IPL PARM support

2003-03-05 Thread Lucius, Leland
-Original Message- From: Romney White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 7:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Kernel patch to add VM IPL PARM support Lucius: The string provided by z/VM is terminated by a byte of binary zero, at least according to

Re: Kernel patch to add VM IPL PARM support

2003-03-05 Thread Lucius, Leland
The string provided by z/VM is terminated by a byte of binary zero, at least according to the CP Command and Utility Reference. If it is, it should be easy to find the end of the values supplied on IPL.I would recommend ensuring the high-order byte of GR0 is zero when the SAVESYS command is

Re: Honest Perspective

2003-03-05 Thread Rich Smrcina
This is one that is looking to be all over the map. If you have data entry or transactional type workload on WAS, Linux for zSeries is a great fit. Fast, small transactions that do some database activity on the back end and send back a web page. We have one customer on the west coast that has

Re: Kernel patch to add VM IPL PARM support

2003-03-05 Thread Romney White
Leland: If you don't specify PARMREGS then you don't get a trailing X'00'. And, you only get a trailing X'00' if the PARM is shorter than the size that the PARMREGS value implies. The documentation doesb't say this, but the code does. Romney On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 22:00:38 -0600 Lucius, Leland

Re: Installing Red Hat 7.2 on an LPAR?

2003-03-05 Thread Rob van der Heij
Post, Mark K wrote: wrote a document on how to write the 3 starter files to disk so that you can IPL without using a tape, though. Take a look at http://linuxvm.org/Info/l390link.html and see if you can find the one that points to http://www.rvdheij.com/linuxipl.html

Re: Red Hat 7.2 S/390

2003-03-05 Thread Rob van der Heij
Post, Mark K wrote: One can only hope. It's made life miserable for a number of people, myself included, over time. But have you looked at it recently? Last time I looked I found support for a second initrd image for the starter system to make adding the OCO modules fairly easy. PS With SuSE you