Re: can LINUX/390 and z/OS LPARS share devices?

2006-09-06 Thread Vic Cross
Post, Mark K wrote: Doesn't that require playing games with genning different subchannel addresses to different LPARs, but using the same device numbers in those different LPARs? Not that I've been the bunny responsible for IOCDS, but as I recall it was pretty simple and standard EMIF to map

Re: can LINUX/390 and z/OS LPARS share devices?

2006-09-06 Thread inci yeker selkan
There is no problem in sharing same osa device addresses and osa card between lpars. . We share them for years, but between z/os lpars. It is simply like sharing dasds. I'm sure, because I do the hardware definitions (iocp, mvscp, hcd definitions). In my opinion, using the same device number

Problem with Hipersockets on CentOS 4.3

2006-09-06 Thread Sebastian Korte
Hello list! I have problems to get Hipersockets running on CentOS-4.3/s390x, kernel 2.6.9-42.EL, z/VM 5.1. The three Hipersocket-addresses are dedicated to the guest. OSA-Express works fine. I use the following documentation:

Re: Problem with Hipersockets on CentOS 4.3

2006-09-06 Thread Christian Borntraeger
On Wednesday 06 September 2006 14:33, Sebastian Korte wrote: info-addnetdevice.html The step echo 0.0.FD20,0.0.FD21,0.0.FD22 /sys/bus/ccwgroup/drivers/qeth/group fails, there is no new directory in /sys/bus/ccwgroup/drivers/qeth. Even if I reboot. Use non capital addresses in sysfs. echo

How to signal a Linux guest from z/VM?

2006-09-06 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
From z/VM I'd like to signal a SLES 9 guest somehow and have the guest respond by running a shell script (CP SIGNAL SHUTDOWN is not what I want to do). I don't want to use SECUSER and CP SEND, my Linux console isn't at a shell prompt, it's at the Login: prompt. Does Linux have a facility to

Re: Problem with Hipersockets on CentOS 4.3

2006-09-06 Thread Sebastian Korte
Use non capital addresses in sysfs. echo 0.0.fd20,0.0.fd21,0.0.fd22 /sys/bus/ccwgroup/drivers/qeth/group should do the trick. Yes! Thank you very much. Sebastian -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: How to signal a Linux guest from z/VM?

2006-09-06 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 9/6/06, Romanowski, John (OFT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want to use SECUSER and CP SEND, my Linux console isn't at a shell prompt, it's at the Login: prompt. You could change inittab and make sure there is a running shell at the console.. And I suppose you don't want to use rexec

Re: How to signal a Linux guest from z/VM?

2006-09-06 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
I don't know enough C to write the driver. The signal number's all I need, just looking to invent a button that does a pre-defined action when pushed. I was thinking I could use the hotplug system but I don't think hotplug gets triggered when I attach/define a device to the guest.

Re: How to signal a Linux guest from z/VM?

2006-09-06 Thread Thomas Kern
I have suggested before that a Linux service virtual machine should have a facility to accept SMSGs, validate the origin against an authorized user list and process the content appropriately for that SVM. The response has generally been that is a dinosaur-style mainframe thing that doesn't belong

Re: How to signal a Linux guest from z/VM?

2006-09-06 Thread David Boyes
Use the IUCV driver Neale developed. There is an application supplied with it that lets Linux listen to *MSG and either write it to stdout or syslog. Then you can just TELL the Linux guest, and you do the automation where you chose to write the output from *MSG. You also get the ability to

Re: How to signal a Linux guest from z/VM?

2006-09-06 Thread Christian Borntraeger
On Wednesday 06 September 2006 15:33, Romanowski, John (OFT) wrote: I was thinking I could use the hotplug system but I don't think hotplug gets triggered when I attach/define a device to the guest. Hotplug (or udev) gets triggered when you define/attach/detach a device. Although it is not the

Re: How to signal a Linux guest from z/VM?

2006-09-06 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 9/6/06, Christian Borntraeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hotplug (or udev) gets triggered when you define/attach/detach a device. Although it is not the nicest way of signalling, yes you could abuse hotplug or udev to trigger an action (e.g. by defining a virtual ctc device and intercepting

Re: How to signal a Linux guest from z/VM?

2006-09-06 Thread Dave Jones
As Dr. Boyes suggests, using the open source IUCV driver is a very good way of solving this type of problem. You can find it here: http://www.sinenomine.net/vm/fsiucv Another approach that might be applicable here is to have a simple client, running on the Linux guest, and listening on a

Re: How to signal a Linux guest from z/VM?

2006-09-06 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
Thank you; I'll investigate using hotplug/udev. It's already installed, I'd just have to write a udev rule and the script. But if hotplug gets triggered when I attach a dasd why is it only some dasd addresses get automatically enabled and appear as /dev/dasd? after I attach one while Linux is

Re: How to signal a Linux guest from z/VM?

2006-09-06 Thread Christian Borntraeger
On Wednesday 06 September 2006 16:02, Rob van der Heij wrote: Eeks! That's ugly... Another reason to become more familiar with udev ;-) Welcome to the Dark Side of the Force. ;-) Actually current udev versions are really powerful and flexible. The only problem is that the version,

Re: How to signal a Linux guest from z/VM?

2006-09-06 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
Thank you for your suggestion. Our VM TCPIP isn't reachable from the Linux network; can't use TCPIP from my z/VM to connect to a linux guest. This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally

Re: How to signal a Linux guest from z/VM?

2006-09-06 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
Looks dirty? wasn't there some discussion here a few weeks ago about using a laptop with an IBM disk motion-sensitivity feature so one could tap on the laptop to trigger scripts on linux? This e-mail, including any attachments, may be

Re: How to signal a Linux guest from z/VM?

2006-09-06 Thread David Boyes
I don't know enough C to write the driver. You don't need to. We already did (and it's general purpose for all CP message types). http://www.sinenomine.net/vm/fsiucv Have fun. -- db -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff /

Re: How to signal a Linux guest from z/VM?

2006-09-06 Thread Christian Borntraeger
On Wednesday 06 September 2006 16:16, Romanowski, John (OFT) wrote: But if hotplug gets triggered when I attach a dasd why is it only some dasd addresses get automatically enabled and appear as /dev/dasd? after I attach one while Linux is running? Is the hotplug action limited to only the dasd

Re: can LINUX/390 and z/OS LPARS share devices? LCS or QETH module??

2006-09-06 Thread inci yeker selkan
I noticed that, if the OSA card is OSA Gigabit Express (OSA-GBX), the last row of the following table. Does that mean, the linux module to be used should be QETH, not LCS. Our card is (Hardware model - OSA-Direct Express,subtype -- Gigabit Ethernet) But Marist uses LCS. If I try INSMOD QETH

Re: How to signal a Linux guest from z/VM?

2006-09-06 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
Danke. I'll make an /events directory and watch for events to get logged and see what's happening. This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for the

Re: How to signal a Linux guest from z/VM?

2006-09-06 Thread Rich Smrcina
Is that why tape devices aren't enabled when they are attached? Christian Borntraeger wrote: On Wednesday 06 September 2006 16:16, Romanowski, John (OFT) wrote: But if hotplug gets triggered when I attach a dasd why is it only some dasd addresses get automatically enabled and appear as

Re: How to signal a Linux guest from z/VM?

2006-09-06 Thread Carsten Otte
Rich Smrcina wrote: Is that why tape devices aren't enabled when they are attached? Yes. -- Carsten Otte has stopped smoking: Ich habe in 3 Monate, 1 Woche und 6 Tage schon 504,10 Euro gespart anstatt 2.100,42 Zigaretten zu kaufen

Re: lcds

2006-09-06 Thread Post, Mark K
Absolutely. Two of my Slack/390 development systems are on it. It was recently upgraded to a z900, so 64-bit guests are now available. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Little, Chris Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:54

Re: Hobbit RPMs for s390/s390x

2006-09-06 Thread Jon Brock
Rich, Do you know whether there is a more recent version of the z/OS Hobbit client that is on deadcat.net or whether the source is available? The last time I tried to use it I could get it to send status data once and then it would abend. I haven't messed with it in a while, though.

Re: Hobbit RPMs for s390/s390x

2006-09-06 Thread Little, Chris
Now you do it . . . My manager found your presentation on Hobbit and wanted it built for all of our linux environments. You wouldn't happen to have sles8 64 bit hobbits sitting around somewhere smoking pipeweed and waiting to be called to action? -Original Message- From: Linux on

Re: Hobbit RPMs for s390/s390x

2006-09-06 Thread Post, Mark K
If he doesn't have a SLES8 version, I might be able to eventually build one. But, why don't you try it yourself? Building RPMs isn't that hard, and would be educational. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Little, Chris Sent:

Re: Hobbit RPMs for s390/s390x

2006-09-06 Thread Rich Smrcina
The version on deadcat.net is the only one that I know of. If there is an author indicated you may try contacting him/her. Jon Brock wrote: Rich, Do you know whether there is a more recent version of the z/OS Hobbit client that is on deadcat.net or whether the source is available?

Re: Hobbit RPMs for s390/s390x

2006-09-06 Thread Rich Smrcina
Sorry, I don't have any 64-bit SLES8 systems. Little, Chris wrote: Now you do it . . . My manager found your presentation on Hobbit and wanted it built for all of our linux environments. You wouldn't happen to have sles8 64 bit hobbits sitting around somewhere smoking pipeweed and waiting to

Re: Hobbit RPMs for s390/s390x

2006-09-06 Thread Jon Brock
I thought of that. Maybe one day when things slow down a little . . . Haha! Slow down. I just kill me. Jon snip The version on deadcat.net is the only one that I know of. If there is an author indicated you may try contacting him/her. /snip

RHEL5 Beta 1

2006-09-06 Thread Post, Mark K
This arrived in my inbox today, for the Red Hat fans. As with SLES10, there is only a 64-bit version for the mainframe. Mark Post -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 08:56:43 -0400 From: Jay Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: can LINUX/390 and z/OS LPARS share devices? LCS or QETH module??

2006-09-06 Thread David Boyes
I noticed that, if the OSA card is OSA Gigabit Express (OSA-GBX), the last row of the following table. Does that mean, the linux module to be used should be QETH, not LCS. Yes. ( Mark Post had in the first place advised me to leave Marist). Listen to him. The Marist tarball is ancient

Re: Hobbit RPMs for s390/s390x

2006-09-06 Thread Little, Chris
Nah. I can build the RPMs. I did it (last week -- oh why oh why didn't i procrastinate and let Rick do it for me?) for SLES 9. I just don't have a development envirmonent set up for SLES 8. Now where did I put those CDs.. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port

SLE8 and z/9

2006-09-06 Thread Crispin Hugo
Can anyone ell me if sle8 will run on a Z9 2096-s07 (BC) with z/VM 5.2 . Officially they say NO. But any experience from the real world. Crispin Hugo Systems Programmer, Macro 4 http://www.macro4.com/ Macro 4 plc, The Orangery, Turners Hill Road, Worth, Crawley, RH10 4SS Direct Line: +44 (0)1293

Re: RHEL5 Beta 1

2006-09-06 Thread Brad Hinson
Moving away from WS/ES/AS, going towards server/desktop model (not written in stone yet). The installation key will be used to determine which packages to install. For the beta, you can just cancel this window. -Brad On Wed, 2006-09-06 at 14:20 -0400, Post, Mark K wrote: This arrived in my

Re: SLE8 and z/9

2006-09-06 Thread Post, Mark K
Who's they? I would say it should run with no problems. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crispin Hugo Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 4:29 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: SLE8 and z/9 Can anyone ell me if sle8

Re: RHEL5 Beta 1

2006-09-06 Thread Post, Mark K
Brad, Any preliminary doc on what values can/should/must be used for the installation key? Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Hinson Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 4:40 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: RHEL5

Re: SLE8 and z/9

2006-09-06 Thread Little, Chris
we're running sles8 on a 2094 under 5.1. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crispin Hugo Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 3:29 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: SLE8 and z/9 Can anyone ell me if sle8 will run on a Z9

Re: SLE8 and z/9

2006-09-06 Thread Dave Keeton
We're running sles8 on a 2086 under 5.2... Can anyone ell me if sle8 will run on a Z9 2096-s07 (BC) with z/VM 5.2 . Officially they say NO. But any experience from the real world. Crispin Hugo Systems Programmer, Macro 4 http://www.macro4.com/ Macro 4 plc, The Orangery, Turners

Re: SLE8 and z/9

2006-09-06 Thread Crispin Hugo
They is/are Novell. IBM have told me that the official Novell view is that sle8 will not run on z9 BC even under z/VM 5. I have not seen this for myself yet. Crispin Hugo Systems Programmer, Macro 4 http://www.macro4.com/ Macro 4 plc, The Orangery, Turners Hill Road, Worth, Crawley, RH10 4SS

Josef Grömping is out of the office. Original subject : 'Re: SLE8 and z/9'

2006-09-06 Thread Josef Groemping
Josef Grömping will be out of the office starting 06.09.2006 and will be returning on 11.09.2006. I will respond to your message when I return. - Diese E-Mail enthaelt vertrauliche oder rechtlich geschuetzte Informationen. Wenn Sie nicht der

Root partition does not retain changes after reboot

2006-09-06 Thread Ranga Nathan
Something strange happening in one of our SLES9 servers. After reboot, changes to root partition are lost. I confirmed it by cycling it today. We created an account and now the home directory for the account is gone and /etc/passwd has old timestamp. The mount output shows that the root is

Re: SLE8 and z/9

2006-09-06 Thread Feller, Paul
We did for a short time under VM 5.1. I think it was recommended that we be at service pack 4. Paul Feller AIT Mainframe Technical Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] (319)-355-7824 -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crispin Hugo Sent:

Re: SLE8 and z/9

2006-09-06 Thread Post, Mark K
While they are perfectly within their rights to say that configuration is not supported, I suspect it is exactly that, a statement of support. It really should just work. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crispin Hugo Sent:

Re: RHEL5 Beta 1

2006-09-06 Thread Brad Hinson
No official word yet, but I speculate it will be similar to the key you can use (optional) to register a system with RHN/Satellite: https://rhn.redhat.com/rhn/help/reference/rhn410/en/s1-up2date- register.jsp#S2-UP2DATE-REG-ACTIVATE On Wed, 2006-09-06 at 16:47 -0400, Post, Mark K wrote: Brad,

Re: RHEL5 Beta 1

2006-09-06 Thread Brock Organ
Hi Mark, Any key value (including not entering one) should work for this beta; there are no specific key-activated variants for the zSeries in this beta. Regards, Brock On Wed, 2006-09-06 at 16:47 -0400, Post, Mark K wrote: Brad, Any preliminary doc on what values can/should/must be used

Re: RHEL5 Beta 1

2006-09-06 Thread Post, Mark K
Brock, Thanks, but I wasn't thinking only of zSeries. I support a lot of Intel and AMD boxes as well. For me, not entering anything, then clicking OK or Cancel didn't work. I had to put in _something_. If the installation key will be used to determine which packages to install as Brad stated,

Hobbit RPMs for s390/s390x

2006-09-06 Thread Rich Smrcina
Crossposted to linux-390, ibmvm and vse-l. Sorry for duplications. I have created Hobbit RPMs for the s390 and s390x architectures. Hobbit is an open source network services availability monitor (http://hobbitmon.sourceforge.net). They are available on sourceforge

Re: can LINUX/390 and z/OS LPARS share devices? LCS or QETH module??

2006-09-06 Thread John Summerfied
David Boyes wrote: I noticed that, if the OSA card is OSA Gigabit Express (OSA-GBX), the last row of the following table. Does that mean, the linux module to be used should be QETH, not LCS. Yes. ( Mark Post had in the first place advised me to leave Marist). Listen to him.

Re: RHEL5 Beta 1

2006-09-06 Thread John Summerfied
Post, Mark K wrote: cel didn't work. I had to put in _something_. If the installation key will be used to determine which packages to install as Brad stated, and it's _likely_ to be along the lines of the current activation codes, this seems to imply some sort of external setup (perhaps in

Re: How to signal a Linux guest from z/VM?

2006-09-06 Thread John Summerfied
Dave Jones wrote: As Dr. Boyes suggests, using the open source IUCV driver is a very good way of solving this type of problem. You can find it here: http://www.sinenomine.net/vm/fsiucv Another approach that might be applicable here is to have a simple client, running on the Linux guest, and

Re: SLE8 and z/9

2006-09-06 Thread John Summerfied
Crispin Hugo wrote: They is/are Novell. IBM have told me that the official Novell view is that sle8 will not run on z9 BC even under z/VM 5. I have not seen this for myself yet. Until answer is satisfactory Ask 'em, Why? -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How to signal a Linux guest from z/VM?

2006-09-06 Thread Thomas Kern
That's why I like using something internal to the zSeries for zSeries communications and automation. The source of the data can be trusted to not be spoofed so you can authenticate that against a table of authorized users and be safe. With the VMCF protocal (SMSG is just a commandline SENDX,