Re: [Linux-users] Box is locking up

2014-11-23 Thread Barry
A belated reply to say thank you to all who offered words of wisdom re my problem. I never did find what was going wrong, but an update to the kernel appears to have solved the problem of the box locking up randomly. Barry On 21/10/14 16:02, Barry wrote: Hi all, could I have some words of

Re: [Linux-users] Box is locking up

2014-11-23 Thread Derek Smithies
Hi, As some of you may remember, I had advised Barry to dump the box, get a new one. The question was why put all this time into a junker? Shortly after, I had the same problem. The computer was locking up and my son was short on detail about why. There was no comment about misuse of it

Re: [Linux-users] Box is locking up

2014-11-23 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Mon 24 Nov 2014 13:28:53 NZDT +1300, Derek Smithies wrote: A reinstall of ubuntu 14.04 + upgrade to 14:10 gave a box that was hideously unstable. Some kernel messages about fbcon being unhappy. You are talking about a mainstream distro version burning and smoking totally? In this kind of

Re: [Linux-users] Box is locking up

2014-11-01 Thread Helmut Walle
When installing the new kernel also ensure that kernel-firmware is installed - or what was the name of the package with all the firmware required to make exotic hardware like wifi cards work? On 1 November 2014 9:12:19 PM NZDT, Barry barr...@paradise.net.nz wrote: Hello All, I have read and

Re: [Linux-users] Box is locking up

2014-11-01 Thread Kent Fredric
On 1 November 2014 21:12, Barry barr...@paradise.net.nz wrote: I have read and reread all suggestions for which I thank you all. At last, I think I have found the problem by searching journalctl -d after yesterdays lockup. The following lines are what I found..

Re: [Linux-users] Box is locking up

2014-11-01 Thread keit...@e3.net.nz
On 01/11/14 21:12, Barry wrote: Btw no hw alterations have been made, and I have been running mageia2 for the last 2 weeks or so with no problems. Would I be correct in assuming a faulty software driver is the cause of my problem? Is Mageia set to auto updates from the repos the Mageia

Re: [Linux-users] Box is locking up

2014-10-26 Thread Andrew Packer
On 22/10/14 15:45, Nick Rout wrote: Speaking of which, where can one buy compressed air cans these days? My laptop needs a blow out I think. The product you want is called CRC Air Brush. You can contact CRC via www.crc.co.nz. I reckon we might have got our can at Blackwood-Paykel

Re: [Linux-users] Box is locking up

2014-10-26 Thread Andrew Packer
Possibly so, Dave, but you might also get 3. oil 4. dust 5. moisture You do have to use canned air in short bursts or else it may freeze in the nozzle. I gather that what's called air is actually CO_2 which will freeze if you keep spraying it without a pause. ===Andrew On 27/10/14 13:29,

Re: [Linux-users] Box is locking up

2014-10-26 Thread Nick Rout
Yep, clean air is really required here! On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Andrew Packer and...@cogitant.co.nz wrote: Possibly so, Dave, but you might also get 3. oil 4. dust 5. moisture You do have to use canned air in short bursts or else it may freeze in the nozzle. I gather that what's

Re: [Linux-users] Box is locking up

2014-10-22 Thread keit...@e3.net.nz
On 21/10/14 16:02, Barry wrote: uname -a = Linux TheBox 3.12.20-server-1.mga4 #1 SMP Fri May 16 16:03:00 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Memory currently 501.4mg/1.5gb. sleep is still running with the highest pid. I used to have lock out problems due to the xfce power manager

Re: [Linux-users] Box is locking up

2014-10-21 Thread Barry
Thanks for your replies everyone. I ran memtester for abt 5 hrs yesterday without noticing any thing. Box has not been altered for over a year. Gut feeling is that Mageia 4 has a faulty app which runs before login. No probs before installing Mageia 4. Not related to wifi problems. Opera was a

Re: [Linux-users] Box is locking up

2014-10-21 Thread Roger Searle
I have sometimes experienced this kind of thing and agree it is usually indicative of faulty hardware, however have also found it can be caused by graphics drivers, particularly if the box has just gone through a major distribution upgrade. These days it's the thing I (slightly) worry about

Re: [Linux-users] Box is locking up

2014-10-21 Thread Robert Fisher
From experience, the two most common causes of machine lock-ups have been mentioned already - power supplies can easily be tested (I can even lend you a tester) They (power supplies) are very cheap too. - dust buildup on the CPU cooling fins can be sorted with compressed air or a blower (be

Re: [Linux-users] Box is locking up

2014-10-21 Thread Nick Rout
Speaking of which, where can one buy compressed air cans these days? My laptop needs a blow out I think. On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Robert Fisher rob...@fisher.net.nz wrote: From experience, the two most common causes of machine lock-ups have been mentioned already - power supplies can

Re: [Linux-users] Box is locking up

2014-10-21 Thread Derek Smithies
Hi, I have had some good results with a vacuum cleaner. All power cords removed from the computer. Some care and attention to use a plastic head on the vacuum cleaner hose. My son has done it also, and there have been no dead computers as a result. There have only been happy computers.

Re: [Linux-users] Box is locking up

2014-10-21 Thread Robert Fisher
He he. The fan tends to be very fast when air is blown over it. Best to hold the blades first. Robert Fisher On 22 Oct 2014 16:53, C. Falconer cfalco...@totalteam.co.nz wrote: Robert Fisher wrote, On 22/10/14 15:06: dust buildup on the CPU cooling fins can be sorted with compressed air or a

Re: [Linux-users] Box is locking up

2014-10-20 Thread Derek Smithies
Hi, the old favourite:: Memory test. run the memtest86 (for many iterations (2 hours or more, some like 24 hours)) and see if the memory fails. Next, grab a usb stick with live linux on it. (any distro - pick your favourite) and run this. Does it lock up? If it dies during the memory

Re: [Linux-users] Box is locking up

2014-10-20 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Tue 21 Oct 2014 16:02:53 NZDT +1300, Barry wrote: Every so often the box just stops and screen freezes. Hardware error. The tricky part is to find the faulty component. Please run memtest86+ for at least one full iteration, several if you can. There is a program called memtester which you

Re: [Linux-users] Box is locking up

2014-10-20 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Tue 21 Oct 2014 17:00:29 NZDT +1300, Derek Smithies wrote: I think we have neglected to mention the possibility of a faulty power supply. True. I was thinking of it coming under the heading swap components until it works again, but it doesn't hurt to mention it explicitly. It is possibly

Re: [Linux-users] Box is locking up

2014-10-20 Thread Derek Smithies
Hi, so we come back to the earlier comment, which after rewording becomes Are you willing to chase your tail in an endeavour to fix a piece of junk? Cheers, Derek. p.s. my experience with memtest has not been conclusive, but I know of one second hand computer store that sold computers with