[pfSense] pfSense box not visible from LAN, only from WAN

2013-05-08 Thread Marco
Hi,

I'm a new pfSense user and just set up my first box, which is a
wireless access point. The problem is that I can't ping my pfSense
box (or use the web configurator) from the LAN side, but both work
from the WAN. Here are some details about my setup:

WAN: ethernet, IP assigned via DHCP
LAN: wireless in AP mode, no IP configured, but obtained via DHCP from the WAN
bridge: bridges WLAN and LAN interfaces, no IP configured

I can connect to the access point and the hosts get an IP address.
If I scan the network from the LAN (wireless connection) I get this
result:

  10.101.101.1  (gateway)
  10.101.101.32 (the host I'm scanning from, LAN)
  10.101.101.63 (some other host, WAN)
  more hosts…

However, if I scan the network from the WAN I get this result:

  10.101.101.1  (gateway)
  10.101.101.28 (the pfSense box)
  10.101.101.63 (the host I'm scanning from, WAN)
  more hosts…

I have no firewalls rules, except one per interface, which permits
all traffic. I can provide more information if necessary, just let
me know.

How can I make the pfsense box visible from the LAN side? Am I doing
something wrong or is this expected?

Regards
Marco

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Re: [pfSense] pfSense box not visible from LAN, only from WAN

2013-05-08 Thread Chris Bagnall

On 8/5/13 7:41 pm, Marco wrote:

no IP configured


This would be your problem.


How can I make the pfsense box visible from the LAN side? Am I doing
something wrong or is this expected?


I suspect it's expected behaviour. If you want to use pfSense purely as 
an access point, then you're probably best off not using LAN at all 
(unless you need filtering). Bridge WAN with your WLAN interface and LAN 
becomes effectively redundant.


(I seem to recall in the past it wasn't possible to bridge WAN with 
anything - whether this limitation still exists in 2.x I don't know, but 
if it does, you might be best off ignoring both WAN and LAN, and create 
an OPT interface to bridge with your WLAN interface)


Kind regards,

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Re: [pfSense] pfSense box not visible from LAN, only from WAN

2013-05-08 Thread Marco
On 2013–05–08 Chris Bagnall wrote:

> On 8/5/13 7:41 pm, Marco wrote:
> >no IP configured
> 
> This would be your problem.

This was the problem, indeed. I set the LAN to DHCP and I can see
the pfSense box and access the web configurator.

> >How can I make the pfsense box visible from the LAN side? Am I doing
> >something wrong or is this expected?
> 
> I suspect it's expected behaviour. If you want to use pfSense purely
> as an access point, then you're probably best off not using LAN at
> all (unless you need filtering). Bridge WAN with your WLAN interface
> and LAN becomes effectively redundant.

I think I didn't make myself clear, sorry. The LAN *is* the WLAN. I
have just two interfaces, one ethernet (WAN) and one WLAN (LAN), and
then a bridge across both (OPT1).

Thanks for the very quick response. It works now.

Regards
Marco

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Re: [pfSense] pfSense box not visible from LAN, only from WAN

2013-05-08 Thread b...@todoo.biz
I am not sure what you are precisely trying to do… 
But if your idea is to have a neutral wireless AP, you will want to: 

1. bridge the WAN and WLAN together. 

2. deactivate all firewalling on your box (advanced network or firewall 
settings). 

3. In case you want to filter, you might want to change the settings in 
advanced so that you filter on the bridge rather than on each interface (in the 
sysctl pane). 


If you have console access to the FW, use the "pfctl -d" command line to 
deactivate the FW - It'll ease your job !


Thanks. 

Le 8 mai 2013 à 20:41, Marco  a écrit :

> Hi,
> 
> I'm a new pfSense user and just set up my first box, which is a
> wireless access point. The problem is that I can't ping my pfSense
> box (or use the web configurator) from the LAN side, but both work
> from the WAN. Here are some details about my setup:
> 
> WAN: ethernet, IP assigned via DHCP
> LAN: wireless in AP mode, no IP configured, but obtained via DHCP from the WAN
> bridge: bridges WLAN and LAN interfaces, no IP configured
> 
> I can connect to the access point and the hosts get an IP address.
> If I scan the network from the LAN (wireless connection) I get this
> result:
> 
>  10.101.101.1  (gateway)
>  10.101.101.32 (the host I'm scanning from, LAN)
>  10.101.101.63 (some other host, WAN)
>  more hosts…
> 
> However, if I scan the network from the WAN I get this result:
> 
>  10.101.101.1  (gateway)
>  10.101.101.28 (the pfSense box)
>  10.101.101.63 (the host I'm scanning from, WAN)
>  more hosts…
> 
> I have no firewalls rules, except one per interface, which permits
> all traffic. I can provide more information if necessary, just let
> me know.
> 
> How can I make the pfsense box visible from the LAN side? Am I doing
> something wrong or is this expected?
> 
> Regards
> Marco


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Re: [pfSense] pfSense box not visible from LAN, only from WAN

2013-05-08 Thread Marco
On 2013–05–08 b...@todoo.biz wrote:

> I am not sure what you are precisely trying to do… 

This box is a replacement for an old Debian AP I set up a few years
ago which worked flawlessly but died recently. It did not do any
filtering, it was just a bridge between wired and wireless network
using hostap and bridge-utils to provide wireless internet access
for about a dozen users. Since everybody is talking about pfSense I
thought I could give it a try for this setup.

> But if your idea is to have a neutral wireless AP, you will want to: 
> 
> 1. bridge the WAN and WLAN together. 

That's what I did. The missing IP address (I still don't know why
this is necessary, but nevermind) on the WLAN network was the cause
of my trouble. It's working now.

> 2. deactivate all firewalling on your box (advanced network or
> firewall settings). 

That's what I did.

> 3. In case you want to filter, you might want to change the
> settings in advanced so that you filter on the bridge rather than
> on each interface (in the sysctl pane). 

When time permits I will definitely look into the features pfSense
provides to improve the network quality. I'm especially interested
in prioritizing skype traffic. That has been the biggest problem in
the past. During the peak hours video calls are not possible. Maybe
the traffic shaper could be of help. On the other hand I read that
skype is very hard to shape.


Thank you too for the response.

Regards
Marco

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Re: [pfSense] pfSense box not visible from LAN, only from WAN

2013-05-08 Thread Marco
On 2013–05–08 b...@todoo.biz wrote:

> I am not sure what you are precisely trying to do… But if your
> idea is to have a neutral wireless AP, you will want to: 
> 
> 1. bridge the WAN and WLAN together. 
> 
> 2. deactivate all firewalling on your box (advanced network or
> firewall settings). 
> 
> 3. In case you want to filter, you might want to change the
> settings in advanced so that you filter on the bridge rather than
> on each interface (in the sysctl pane). 
> 
> 
> If you have console access to the FW, use the "pfctl -d" command
> line to deactivate the FW - It'll ease your job !

Sorry, I was too quick. It only “somehow” works. Here's the
current situation:

I changed the WLAN (LAN) interface from no IP address to DHCP and I
could see the pfSense box from the WLAN. Then I changed the cabling
from the test setup to the original one. In particular, I unplugged
the pfSense box from the WAN for a few seconds to remove a switch.
After this change, I couldn't access the pfSense box any more. I
plugged the switch again and got a new DHCP lease for the WLAN (LAN)
interface. It showed 0.0.0.0 as IP. I don't know why, but it worked
anyway. I can access the pfSense box from the WLAN *until I remove
the cable again*, which I definitely need to do to remove the
switch.

Then I decided to use a static IP instead of DHCP, which worked, it
survived the removal of the switch and I still have access to the
pfSense box. I don't know if the randomly selected IP may collide
with the IPs distributed by the DHCP server, so this solution might
not be optimal. Anyway, all hosts see the IP of the pfSense box and
my randomly selected one.

All hosts in the WLAN (LAN) can see all other hosts in the WAN,
including pfSense box, but they can't see each other. Why can't the
hosts in the WLAN see each other?

Regards
Marco

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[pfSense] IPSEC tunnel - Rules for IPSEC or LAN - Public IP/net to LAN host

2013-05-08 Thread Mark Street
Hi, 

I have successfully created an IPSEC tunnel with a Cisco ASA 5520 and my 
pfSense 2.0.3 appliance. 

My side is a PRIVATE LAN network, their side is a PUBLIC network /27. 

I am able to connect successfully to one of their public IP's and specific port 
through the tunnel. However they are having trouble connecting to one of my 
internal hosts through the tunnel from their side. 

Since theirs is a public IP coming through the tunnel I am confused on where to 
put the rule to allow traffic from their public network to pass to a host on my 
internal LAN from the IPSEC tunnel. 

I have read the section in my pfSense Definitive Guide 13.3 IPSec and firewall 
rules.. but I guess I need some clarity. 

Any hints/education would be appreciated. 

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