JAX things

2016-10-13 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hey guys, I see we did not win? https://jaxenter.com/winners-jax-innovation-awards-2016-jax-london-129588.html I wonder why. Because the log4j community is just great, and all the people I worked here are just great as well. I would have given us a "great community" award or something. Next time

[ANNOUNCEMENT] Welcome Ralph Goers as the new Apache Logging Chair

2015-11-20 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello all, I was the chair of the Apache Logging Services project for 3 1/2 years. Thank you, it was a great time. But it is time to move on. I think it is critical for ASF projects to let the Chair role rotate. At Logging Services, we agreed to discuss the role each year at the time of the ASF

[RESULT] [VOTE] EOL for Log4j 1.x

2015-07-16 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, this vote passed with 5x +1 from: - Ralph Goers - Scott Deboy - Gary Gregory - Remko Popma - Christian Grobmeier I will prepare everything over the next days and will let you know. I also reach out to Sally for an official press statement. Thanks! Christian - Original message

[VOTE] EOL for Log4j 1.x

2015-07-11 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello all, as previously discussed, this is a vote to label Log4j 1.x as EOL. This means: 1. label Log4j 1.x as "EOL" on the main page 2. Add a note to the Log4j 1.x download section that we are not maintaining this version anymore 3. place a prominent EOL announcement on the Welcome page 4. wor

Re: [DISCUSS] EOL for Log4j 1.x

2015-07-07 Thread Christian Grobmeier
on the logging project was to focus on > version 2. > > Ralph > >> On Jul 6, 2015, at 1:26 PM, Christian Grobmeier >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I thought we would make a formal "vote" on this, just like we would >> do a release. Not

Re: [DISCUSS] EOL for Log4j 1.x

2015-07-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
t I got stalled when it came >> > time to porting our custom appenders and custom initialization >> > code. It's just too much work. If I had to redo it I would start >> > with using the 1.2 compatibility jar to get to dealing with our >> > custom bits soo

Re: [DISCUSS] EOL for Log4j 1.x

2015-07-04 Thread Christian Grobmeier
/07/04, at 19:42, Ralph Goers wrote: > > > > What is the difference between EOL and the way things are now. Are you > > proposing that bugzilla would be closed? > > > > Ralph > > > >> On Jul 4, 2015, at 2:30 AM, Christian Grobmeier > >

[DISCUSS] EOL for Log4j 1.x

2015-07-04 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi all, we are actively working on Log4j 2.x, but Log4j 1.x hasn't been touched since the last release. I was doing the last one, and I can't see I will find the time or motivation in any time to roll out another one. Nobody else stood up since then. That's OK, because I can observe the community

Re: [VOTE] Log4j 2.3 rc1

2015-05-14 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I checked formalities, like keys, can open, things like that. Looks all good to me. I haven't checked internal details like "looking into the actual code" +1 on the release On Mon, May 11, 2015, at 00:28, Ralph Goers wrote: > This is a vote to release Log4j 2.3, the next version of the Log4j 2

Re: [VOTE] Log4j 2.2 rc1

2015-02-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
+1. I haven't seen much more than already said. I used the -tar distribution to build things and run mvn tests. java version "1.8.0_31" I did not build the site, as it failed with mvn 3.2.5. But this was already covered by Gary, so I am ignoring. Hope thats ok. In addition I did check sigs and

Re: [VOTE] Log4j 2.2 rc1

2015-02-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015, at 20:34, Gary Gregory wrote: > > This brings up the point that we do not consistently document (or not > document) this information for each module.The link to > http://www.eaipatterns.com/WireTap.html on the IO Streams module index > page was broken when I tried it; YMMV.

Re: German Article About Log4j 2.x

2015-01-22 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Congratulations! It reads very good, and I am very happy that I am not the only person writing about Log4j2 now :) -- Christian Grobmeier http://www.grobmeier.de http://www.timeandbill.de On Thu, Jan 22, 2015, at 06:07, Stefan Bodewig wrote: > Hi all > > last week's Java

[chainsaw] Code Signing Services

2014-10-16 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi all, specifically this is a question to Scott: wouldn't this: https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/code_signing_service_now_available solve the problems we had with releasing Chainsaw? Regards Christian -- Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmai

JavaMagazin with Logging special

2014-10-08 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi folks, the current JavaMagazin issue features Logging, and of course I had to add an article on the log4j 2 highlights. Also I wrote a small one on using Apache Flume. https://jaxenter.de/Java-Magazin/Java-Magazin-1114-176447 Cheers, Christian -- Christian Grobmeier grobme

Re: Git is live

2014-08-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
We need to update this page: [1]http://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/source-repository.html -- Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com On Fri, Aug 29, 2014, at 03:59 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: The Git repo is live. The Svn repo is read-only. I am not getting commit emails from Git. How do

Re: Log4j 2 vs. Commons Logging

2014-08-26 Thread Christian Grobmeier
In my opinion its surely obsolete, but where is the point saying it? Do you want to add a statement on the website? On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 1:08 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > I do not think it matters from the Commons POV. I am the Commons PMC Chair > FYI. Commons as a community can think and do wha

Re: [VOTE] Log4j 2.0 candidate 1

2014-07-15 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I am +1 for the GA release. First off, I am sorry for being silent that long time and then coming back with an opinion in this topic as I am just a prime time contributor. I have to deal with some personal issues which made my days long and nights short, so I haven't got the time I want to fol

Re: [VOTE] Log4j 2.0-rc2 candidate 1

2014-06-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Haven't reviewed yet - would be great if there this one would make it without my vote (trouble to solve). However if there is nobody available for review, i am going to do that On 24 Jun 2014, at 2:59, Ralph Goers wrote: +1 from me too. We still need another +1 from a PMC member. Ralph On J

Logo Files committed

2014-06-15 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, I just committed the logo files to: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/graphics/log4j/ I was thinking the working files should not necessary become part of the build, only the reduced versions we need. However if we want to offer a "powered by" it might make sense to move them around.

Re: [VOTE Results] Log4j 2 logo

2014-06-07 Thread Christian Grobmeier
E = 0 F = 0 G = 0 H = 3 I = 0 Most votes currently held by a candidate = 4. Number of candidates with the greatest number of votes = 1. D has exceeded the quota and is elected. If there are seats remaining to be filled, the surplus will now be reallocated. *The election is complete and the elected

Re: [VOTE Results] Log4j 2 logo

2014-06-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
is elected. If there are seats remaining to be filled, the surplus will now be reallocated. *The election is complete and the elected candidates are (D).* On Jun 6, 2014, at 12:25 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: My vote: ABDHCEFGI Thanks! On 3 Jun 2014, at 22:08, Ralph Goers wrote:

Re: [VOTE] Log4j 2 logo

2014-06-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
My vote: ABDHCEFGI Thanks! On 3 Jun 2014, at 22:08, Ralph Goers wrote: It is time to select a logo. The list of candidates can be found at https://wiki.apache.org/logging/Log4jLogoNominations as those having at least two supporters and are arbitrarily identified as A through I. This vote wi

Re: Unit tests are failing again

2014-05-18 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Not related to this problem, but don't we have a CI in place? If not, we should consider to get some help rom Jenkins. On 18 May 2014, at 7:36, Ralph Goers wrote: in some circumstances ThrowableProxy was setting the suppressed proxy to an empty list. In another case it was setting it to null.

Re: Log4J-2.0 New Logo

2014-05-14 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I recall that usually Jim or Sam is very helpful with setting up the voting tool for such things. Maybe somebody else involved in Infra is willing to help as well. Somebody got time to ask there? On 13 May 2014, at 22:00, Ralph Goers wrote: Then we could do it manually. You can find some docu

Re: Log4J-2.0 New Logo

2014-05-14 Thread Christian Grobmeier
It should be doable to transform this image to vector with inkscape. Borders will be sharper and smoother then. It might be a problem with the gradient colors though, we would have to try out (i am just a prime-time vectorist) On 13 May 2014, at 16:42, Matt Sicker wrote: Can you make it a nea

Re: Log4J-2.0 New Logo

2014-05-14 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 14 May 2014, at 8:52, Ralph Goers wrote: Yes the Jira outlines a process that was proposed by Christian in the Jira issue. However, that would be equivalent to someone creating an issue and saying that a new feature must be implemented a certain way. I don’t recall ever really discussing th

Re: Is it ok to update log4j 1?

2014-03-23 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Glad if you would help. With l0g4j2 its not longer that urgent but we have actually a few things to address. However as Gary mentioned, its PITA. On the other hand, I have released the last 1.2.17 and I already knew about a couple of problems... On 21 Mar 2014, at 14:02, Matt Sicker wrote: Ah

Re: Are there any plans to add more log4languages?

2014-03-17 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I actually asked the guy behind a log4r, but most of the projects are pretty small. It would be a problem to have them here but nobody would be able to release after Apache standards. Then there are log4js and log4javascript. However it seems they are fine to reside where they currently reside.

Re: Site Download page

2014-02-22 Thread Christian Grobmeier
+1 to that. Otherwise it certainly can be done by pom.xml properties On 21 Feb 2014, at 17:16, Gary Gregory wrote: On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Nick Williams < nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote: I don't think it should even say WHO signed it. It already instructs users to download th

Re: Health

2014-02-22 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Glad to hear that, please recover soon! On 21 Feb 2014, at 6:19, Ralph Goers wrote: I just wanted to let you all know that I am out of the hospital and am now continuing to get better at home. I still require oxygen so I have a bit of a ways to go, but at least I now have access to my computer

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Apache Log4j 2.0-rc1 released

2014-02-19 Thread Christian Grobmeier
thanks Nick for your work! Could you send the announcement also to: log4j-u...@logging.apache.org annou...@apache.org I think the later one requires an apache.org mail adress. Thanks again! On 16 Feb 2014, at 21:19, Nick Williams wrote: The Apache Log4j 2 team is proud to announce the Log4j

[ANNOUNCEMENT] Nick Williams joins the Apache Logging PMC

2014-02-19 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Dear all, please welcome Nick Williams as the lastest member of the Apache Logging PMC. Nick made very valuable contributions esp to Log4j in the past and the current PMC is very happy that he accepted our invitation. Thanks Nick for your work so far and we are all looking forward for more grea

Re: Logo contest: nominate your favorite logo

2014-02-17 Thread Christian Grobmeier
like. Cheers Christian Gary On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: I think it was me who was thinking wrong, sorry. Then let's start the round-1-vote coming thursday. Cheers Christian On 16 Feb 2014, at 15:53, Gary Gregory wrote: The wiki lists more than 10. W

Re: Logo contest: nominate your favorite logo

2014-02-16 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I think it was me who was thinking wrong, sorry. Then let's start the round-1-vote coming thursday. Cheers Christian On 16 Feb 2014, at 15:53, Gary Gregory wrote: > The wiki lists more than 10. What am I missing? > > G > > Original message ---- > From: Chri

Re: Logo contest: nominate your favorite logo

2014-02-15 Thread Christian Grobmeier
s not change the rules in the middle of the game here... Original message From: Christian Grobmeier Date:02/15/2014 13:21 (GMT-05:00) To: Log4J Developers List ,Log4J Users List Subject: Re: Logo contest: nominate your favorite logo I would like to encourage everybody who d

Re: Logo contest: nominate your favorite logo

2014-02-15 Thread Christian Grobmeier
n the logos which are currently supported by minimum 2 persons. On 2 Feb 2014, at 11:21, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Hi all, > > please show your support for your favorite logo on this wiki page: > http://wiki.apache.org/logging/Log4jLogoNominations > > I added a few nominations a

Re: [VOTE] Log4j 2.0-rc1 RC2

2014-02-15 Thread Christian Grobmeier
er we updated the website. Cheers Christian On 15 Feb 2014, at 16:53, Nick Williams wrote: Done. Let me know if you didn't receive the email. Nick On Feb 15, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Sorry, I thought I already wrote I could do it, but forgot! Sure, let me do that for you

Re: [VOTE] Log4j 2.0-rc1 RC2

2014-02-15 Thread Christian Grobmeier
atures against the KEYS file by at least one person in our PMC. It'll be smoother next time :) Gary Nick Sent from my iPhone, so please forgive brief replies and frequent typos On Feb 13, 2014, at 3:39, "Christian Grobmeier" wrote: On 12 Feb 2014, at 20:01, Nick Williams wr

Re: [VOTE] Log4j 2.0-rc1 RC2

2014-02-13 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 12 Feb 2014, at 20:01, Nick Williams wrote: What matters is what is in https://www.apache.org/dist/logging/KEYS If someone will provide me instructions, I can put my keys there. Instructions are at the top of the file: https://www.apache.org/dist/logging/KEYS also, following through the lin

Re: [VOTE] Log4j 2.0-rc1 RC2

2014-02-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 12 Feb 2014, at 19:31, Nick Williams wrote: On Feb 12, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Scott Deboy wrote: Actually when I run gpg on the .asc files I get: gpg: Signature made Sun Feb 9 11:08:17 2014 PST using DSA key ID ED446286 gpg: Good signa

Re: [VOTE] Log4j 2.0-rc1 RC2

2014-02-11 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I think Rat is wrong on the jquery license. They have included a header, but its not identified by rat. MIT is a clear "yes" for me. We have several other portions of MIT code inside AL code (i.e. commons compress if i recall correctly). If we want to put it into the NOTICE file we need to mak

Re: [VOTE] Log4j 2.0-rc1 RC2

2014-02-11 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Not sure if the site dependency needs to be considered part of our software. I recall having that discussion once i am going to dig archives On 11 Feb 2014, at 6:13, Nicholas Williams wrote: I think it's very clearly a yes. The legal page says code with the MIT license can be included in ASF p

Re: [VOTE] Log4j 2.0-rc1 RC2

2014-02-11 Thread Christian Grobmeier
+1 On 9 Feb 2014, at 20:56, Nick Williams wrote: This is a vote to release Log4j 2.0-rc1, the twelfth release of Log4j 2.0. This release contains several changes that break binary and backwards compatibility with previous versions. Please read the release notes correctly so that you can adj

Re: Log4j 2.0-rc1 Lives to Release Another Day

2014-02-09 Thread Christian Grobmeier
ing to 3.1 just to disable the site plugin for all of the sample modules. That still doesn't explain why you're getting that error and I'm not, but I've changed this to 3.0 just to be on the safe side. Nick On Feb 9, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: I a

Re: Log4j 2.0-rc1 Lives to Release Another Day

2014-02-09 Thread Christian Grobmeier
AD shows that my local copy is identical to that on svn.apache.org. Nick On Feb 9, 2014, at 2:46 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: hm, its there: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/log4j/log4j2/trunk/src/site/site.vm Does it exist on your system? If not maybe you should work on on a fresh chec

Re: Log4j 2.0-rc1 Lives to Release Another Day

2014-02-09 Thread Christian Grobmeier
hm, its there: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/log4j/log4j2/trunk/src/site/site.vm Does it exist on your system? If not maybe you should work on on a fresh checkout. On 9 Feb 2014, at 7:56, Nick Williams wrote: By the way, this is the error I'm getting when building site now: [ERROR

Re: Can we roll RC1 tonight?

2014-02-08 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Can someone forward that email to me privately? I haven't seen an email to the PMC. If it would be sent to private it would need to go to public anyway as this is not confidential. Great you have made it, thanks! I am going to vote tomorrow. Nick On Feb 8, 2014, at 1:17 PM, Christia

Re: Can we roll RC1 tonight?

2014-02-08 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 8 Feb 2014, at 20:11, Nick Williams wrote: On Feb 8, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: OK, so just confirming you want me to do: svn delete https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/log4j/log4j2/tags/log4j-2.0-rc1/ Correct. Please delete that. OK, its done. I would prefer to

Re: Can we roll RC1 tonight?

2014-02-08 Thread Christian Grobmeier
so I think its somehow related to my setup. Recently I found out another apache guy has the same problem, solving it the same way. maybe worth a shot. On 8 Feb 2014, at 20:06, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Nick, i totally feel your pain. Releasing is always evil, i never experienced it othe

Re: Can we roll RC1 tonight?

2014-02-08 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Nick, i totally feel your pain. Releasing is always evil, i never experienced it otherwise in what ever project. On 8 Feb 2014, at 19:56, Nick Williams wrote: Well, after wasting a couple hours, it turns out I do NOT have the power to roll a release. I got a "401 Unauthorized" error when it

Re: Can we roll RC1 tonight?

2014-02-08 Thread Christian Grobmeier
It looks weird that it says: log4j-core-osgi-nosql-couch shouldn't it be couchdb instead meanwhile? Same for mongodb. At least in the artifact ids its: log4j-core-osgi-nosql-mongodb So maybe its some dependency which is still using the old artifact Just a guess On 8 Feb 2014, at 18:02, Nick W

Author "tags" in xdocs

2014-02-08 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello, we have a lot of ... tags in our docs. Thinking about the board recommendation to remove author tags from the source code, I would like to bring up the discussion of removing author tags from the docs too. I am not very oppinionated on this change, just want to bring it up as I have lo

Re: CouchDb vs CouchDB

2014-02-08 Thread Christian Grobmeier
ems to changes.xml for both renames. I think this closes this discussion. Thanks mate! Agreed, ! :) Gary Nick On Feb 7, 2014, at 3:51 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: I am sorry that I didn't express myself better. For some reason I thought everybody would know about the couchd

Re: CouchDb vs CouchDB

2014-02-07 Thread Christian Grobmeier
t;couchdb." Nick On Feb 7, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: folks thats what i meant. Couchbase is a different database than CouchDB. They share the same roots, but meanwhile have some differences. My guess is one needs a second appender. The one we have seems to work

Re: GA?

2014-02-07 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 7 Feb 2014, at 22:25, Gary Gregory wrote: On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: It's ok for me to make an RC. I would like to avoid the "beta" from a community perspective. I also don't don't think that we are beta anymore and it would be mis

Re: GA?

2014-02-07 Thread Christian Grobmeier
o GA. Gary On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Let me do the package rename from couch to couchdb. I am just after it On 7 Feb 2014, at 19:29, Remko Popma wrote: Any showstoppers left for anyone? https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-529 is not great, but

Re: GA?

2014-02-07 Thread Christian Grobmeier
time to work on https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-520 this weekend, but this is not a showstopper IMHO. So I'd be fine with doing a release with what we have now. Cheers, -Remko On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 1:17 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: On 28 Jan 2014, at 1:45, Ralph Goers

Re: CouchDb vs CouchDB

2014-02-07 Thread Christian Grobmeier
. Be sure to change the test package name, too. Nick On Feb 7, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Scott Deboy wrote: +1 to couchbase On Feb 7, 2014 7:54 AM, "Christian Grobmeier" wrote: On 7 Feb 2014, at 16:19, Nick Williams wrote: It doesn't so much matter because the XML element names are ca

Re: CouchDb vs CouchDB

2014-02-07 Thread Christian Grobmeier
me another NoSQL database with the word "couch" in it and I'll reconsider. :-) couchbase maybe? N On Feb 7, 2014, at 9:12 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: also the packagename is just "couch", but it should better be "couchdb". The name couch is misleadin

Re: CouchDb vs CouchDB

2014-02-07 Thread Christian Grobmeier
also the packagename is just "couch", but it should better be "couchdb". The name couch is misleading imho On 7 Feb 2014, at 16:11, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Hi one minor thing in ClouchDBProvider: * The Apache CouchDB implementation of {@link NoSQLProvider}. */ @Pl

CouchDb vs CouchDB

2014-02-07 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi one minor thing in ClouchDBProvider: * The Apache CouchDB implementation of {@link NoSQLProvider}. */ @Plugin(name = "CouchDb", category = "Core", printObject = true) public final class CouchDBProvider The name of this plugin is "CouchDb" while the correct name of the product is CouchDB:

Re: Logo contest: nominate your favorite logo

2014-02-04 Thread Christian Grobmeier
ing list is preferable. Voting on the wiki will be hard and discourage participation. Nick On Feb 3, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Remko Popma wrote: Christian, it worked! What was "Immutable Page" in gray before is now an "Edit (text)" link. Thanks! -Remko On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 6

Re: What will the GA version number be?

2014-02-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
stick with that lanugage as well. > > > On 3 February 2014 07:07, Gary Gregory wrote: > >> Keep it simple: 2.0. >> >> Gary >> >> >> Original message >> From: Christian Grobmeier >> Date:02/03/2014 05:12 (GMT-05:00) >

Re: Logo contest: nominate your favorite logo

2014-02-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 3 Feb 2014, at 22:28, Gary Gregory wrote: On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: On 3 Feb 2014, at 14:40, Gary Gregory wrote: Wow, our wiki is lame. Does each wiki need new user account, or is my account an all-apache wiki account that needs to be added to each

Re: Logo contest: nominate your favorite logo

2014-02-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
, Feb 2, 2014 at 5:21 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Hi all, please show your support for your favorite logo on this wiki page: http://wiki.apache.org/logging/Log4jLogoNominations I added a few nominations already, just stick with the format. Everybody reading this message is invited to

Re: Logo contest: nominate your favorite logo

2014-02-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
> Best regards, > -Remko > > > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 7:14 PM, Remko Popma wrote: > >> Aha! >> rpopma >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 2014/02/03, at 19:10, "Christian Grobmeier" >> wrote: >>> >>&

Re: What will the GA version number be?

2014-02-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Also 2.0 or 2.0.0 for me On 3 Feb 2014, at 7:41, Ralph Goers wrote: I had thought it would be 2.0. Sent from my iPad On Feb 2, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Nick Williams wrote: I'm finalizing the logging chapter of my book to send to the printers Wednesday (I'm so glad I got to correct it to say Le

Re: Logo contest: nominate your favorite logo

2014-02-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
link)... Can you check? Remko On Sunday, February 2, 2014, Christian Grobmeier > wrote: Hi all, please show your support for your favorite logo on this wiki page: http://wiki.apache.org/logging/Log4jLogoNominations I added a few nominations already, just stick with the format. Everybo

Logo contest: nominate your favorite logo

2014-02-02 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi all, please show your support for your favorite logo on this wiki page: http://wiki.apache.org/logging/Log4jLogoNominations I added a few nominations already, just stick with the format. Everybody reading this message is invited to nominate their favorite logo. Cheers, Christian ---

[jira] [Updated] (LOG4J2-316) Logo Contest Submissions

2014-02-02 Thread Christian Grobmeier (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-316?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Christian Grobmeier updated LOG4J2-316: --- Description: h4. Log4J logo contest THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING - we are going to

[jira] [Commented] (LOG4J2-316) Logo Contest Submissions

2014-02-02 Thread Christian Grobmeier (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-316?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=1386#comment-1386 ] Christian Grobmeier commented on LOG4J2-316: THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING

Re: ApacheCon CFP

2014-02-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
ased on the # of CFPs submitted), which means 5-9 simultaneous talks can occur. Rich: That is correct. It sounds like there is potentially time to have multiple talks on Apache Logging. Though I am new-ish, I'd love to present on behalf of Apache Logging. Do we want to have multiple talks

Re: ApacheCon CFP

2014-01-31 Thread Christian Grobmeier
ased on the # of CFPs submitted), which means 5-9 simultaneous talks can occur. Rich: That is correct. It sounds like there is potentially time to have multiple talks on Apache Logging. Though I am new-ish, I'd love to present on behalf of Apache Logging. Do we want to have multiple talks?

Re: ApacheCon CFP

2014-01-30 Thread Christian Grobmeier
me to have multiple talks on Apache Logging. Though I am new-ish, I'd love to present on behalf of Apache Logging. Do we want to have multiple talks? Nick On Jan 26, 2014, at 9:29 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: I would like to attend but I’m not sure I can. Ralph On Jan 25, 2014, at 11:11 AM, C

Re: ApacheCon CFP

2014-01-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 29 Jan 2014, at 0:22, Remko Popma wrote: ... I'm still learning proper ML etiquette... Just for the record: i didn't mean you or anyone hear at Logging ;-) Very nice slides, btw. On Wednesday, January 29, 2014, Christian Grobmeier wrote: I would love to go, but i have to

Re: ApacheCon CFP

2014-01-28 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Apache Logging. Though I am new-ish, I'd love to present on behalf of Apache Logging. Do we want to have multiple talks? Nick On Jan 26, 2014, at 9:29 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: I would like to attend but I'm not sure I can. Ralph On Jan 25, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Christian Grobmeier

Re: GA?

2014-01-28 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 28 Jan 2014, at 1:45, Ralph Goers wrote: I agree with that, but that doesn’t mean we can’t add new stuff to the API. I would like to highlight that! Anyway happy with the proposed time plan :-) Cheers Ralph On Jan 27, 2014, at 2:08 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: IMO: We cannot/should no

Re: GA?

2014-01-27 Thread Christian Grobmeier
If people really thing that another non-GA release is necessary, please label it RC. Beta sounds as log4j2 is absolutely not ready but this isn't the case. At least with a RC we show some confidence in what we do. As additions are easier to make then removals, I would even sacrifice something

ApacheCon CFP

2014-01-25 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi folks, I would like to remind you ApacheCon is happening in April 2014. If you would like to submit your talk, now is the chance. I think it would be great to have somebody presenting our Logging frameworks. I will not be there unfortunately. Regards, Christian --- http://www.grobmeier.de Th

Re: Levels added in revision 1560602

2014-01-25 Thread Christian Grobmeier
User debug info and internal product debug info are MIXED. Our users are confused, our consultants don't like the giant logs. Gary On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: On 24 Jan 2014, at 21:47, Paul Benedict wrote: We should ensure that both the Javadocs and the u

Re: Levels added in revision 1560602

2014-01-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
t the info is there. If you want more info, feel free to ask ;) Gary Original message From: Christian Grobmeier Date:01/24/2014 14:20 (GMT-05:00) To: Log4J Developers List Subject: Re: Levels added in revision 1560602 What I miss in this discussion are actually good examples of

Re: Levels added in revision 1560602

2014-01-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
more info, feel free to ask ;) Gary Original message ---- From: Christian Grobmeier Date:01/24/2014 14:20 (GMT-05:00) To: Log4J Developers List Subject: Re: Levels added in revision 1560602 What I miss in this discussion are actually good examples of what the (new) log levels ar

Re: Levels added in revision 1560602

2014-01-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
What I miss in this discussion are actually good examples of what the (new) log levels are intended for. In example, Gary mentioned he is on a wireshark level with "trace". That's fine, because it would give some idea when to use verbose (maybe entering method). Maybe I missed it when what I

[jira] [Updated] (LOG4J2-316) Logo Contest Submissions

2014-01-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-316?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Christian Grobmeier updated LOG4J2-316: --- Description: h4. Log4J logo contest Log4j 2.0 is looking for a new logo! After 12

Logo contest closes by 31.01.2014

2014-01-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Dear all, as previously discussed, the Log4j logo contest will be closed on 31.01.2014. No more submissions will be accepted until then. If you have another suggestion to make, please make sure you enter it before that date. Thanks! Christian --- http://www.grobmeier.de The Zen Programmer: htt

Re: Enums and Custom Levels

2014-01-23 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I pretty much like this Nick I read the question from time to time how one can add custom log levels in log4j, so this is surely a useful feature for some. On 23 Jan 2014, at 10:02, Remko Popma wrote: I would be happy with any solution that is generic enough to fulfill all users requirement

Re: Web Issues, Logging Levels, and GA

2014-01-23 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Maybe: ZOMBIE_APOCALYPSE > APOCALYPSE > CATASTROPHE > EMERGENCY > FATAL > ... On 23 Jan 2014, at 3:56, Gary Gregory wrote: But that is not as high as APOCALYPSE right? Gary Original message From: Matt Sicker Date:01/22/2014 21:43 (GMT-05:00) To: Log4J Developers List Su

Re: Web Issues, Logging Levels, and GA

2014-01-22 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Jumping in late, sorry. I have read all messages around this now (hopefully) and I am still unsure why we actually need new log levels. Personally I don't see much difference between trace and verbose. Honestly the people I spoke to are usually using debug. I don't know many people who actually

Ending the logo contest

2014-01-22 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello all, I would like to close submission on 31.01. (Friday). Please let me know if there are any objections to this, otherwise I am going to send such an email on friday. After that I believe we should create a wiki page where everybody can nominate his preferred logos. If we have more th

Re: GA Release Date for log4j2

2014-01-13 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 11 Jan 2014, at 23:34, Matt Sicker wrote: Oh neat. I've gotten too used to working for an enterprise that now I assume all OSS projects have PMs. I know it's not usually the case with small projects (especially ones with only one main developer), but I must have gotten the wrong impression

[jira] [Updated] (LOG4J2-316) Logo Contest Submissions

2014-01-07 Thread Christian Grobmeier (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-316?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Christian Grobmeier updated LOG4J2-316: --- Attachment: logo-log4j-eruption.png logo-log4j-circle.png Log4j

Re: Next release of 2.0

2014-01-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
ks do you have in mind? API changes? On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 12:45 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Why the caution? We can have a 3.0, a 2.1 and son on. Nobody expects we should stick forever with a version. On the other hand, we were rele

Re: Next release of 2.0

2014-01-02 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Why the caution? We can have a 3.0, a 2.1 and son on. Nobody expects we should stick forever with a version. On the other hand, we were releasing in beta for ages now. What are the reasons you don't want a 2.0 stable? On 2 Jan 2014, at 14:04, Gary Gregory wrote: Make it RC or another beta IMO

Re: Next release of 2.0

2014-01-02 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Make it 2.0, if you ask me. On 2 Jan 2014, at 8:46, Ralph Goers wrote: I am trying to find a bit more time to work on Log4j again. I see quite a few issues that I would like to address and think I will need about 2 weeks to complete them so I am tentatively targeting the middle of the mont

Re: The Logging Olympics – A Race Between Today’s Top 5 Java Logging Frameworks

2013-12-19 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Yap saw that as well yesterday. However I looked a bit around, this doesn't seem to go in-depth and it doesn't feel well researched. On 18 Dec 2013, at 20:22, Gary Gregory wrote: FYI: http://www.takipiblog.com/2013/12/18/the-logging-olympics-a-race-between-todays-top-5-logging-frameworks/ G

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Log4j Extras 1.2.17.1 based on RC1

2013-11-20 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Can somebody else help testing this on Windows? I was not able to reproduce this, but on the other hand i lack the OS. On 6 Nov 2013, at 16:43, Gary Gregory wrote: On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: On 6 Nov 2013, at 14:39, Gary Gregory wrote: On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at

Log4j Sandbox is now accessible to ASF committers

2013-11-14 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello all, as we discussed earlier, I asked to open access of: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/sandbox/ to all Apache committers, which is now done. I am planning to write a short blog post about it the other day but wanted to let you know right now. Cheers Christian --- http://www.

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Log4j Extras 1.2.17.1 based on RC1

2013-11-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 6 Nov 2013, at 14:39, Gary Gregory wrote: On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:33 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: The class files must have been left over from an old build. With "mvn clean package" I still get one error: Results : Failed tests: test1(org.apache.log4j.rolling.TimeBasedR

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Log4j Extras 1.2.17.1 based on RC1

2013-11-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
1.2.17.1? I'll use this release in any case, but it would be nice if this was the latest public release in general. On 10/21/2013 9:26 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: On 21 Oct 2013, at 15:28, Jess Holle wrote: Packaging now looks good at a glance as I now see no duplication. I don'

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Log4j Extras 1.2.17.1 based on RC1

2013-11-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
6.1", arch: "amd64", family: "windows" Thoughts? Gary On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Hello please vote to release Apache Log4j Extras 1.2.17.1. Site: http://people.apache.org/~grobmeier/extras-12171 (download path will be corr

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