Re: porting log4j2 to .NET

2016-10-19 Thread Nicholas Duane
I could possible offer some assistance if the effort would be along the lines of porting log4j2 to .NET. As I mentioned, I had suggested this on the log4net mailing list and while they were not totally against it there seemed some concern, rightly so, on the overall effort and possibly not

Re: porting log4j2 to .NET

2016-10-19 Thread Matt Sicker
ks across Java and .NET. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Nick > > > > > > From: Ralph Goers > > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 8:08 PM > > To: Log4J Users List > > Subject: Re: porting log4j2 to .NET >

Re: porting log4j2 to .NET

2016-10-19 Thread Mikael Ståldal
> > > Thanks, > > Nick > > > From: Ralph Goers > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 8:08 PM > To: Log4J Users List > Subject: Re: porting log4j2 to .NET > > I feel lost because I don’t understand the concept of a code base that > w

Re: porting log4j2 to .NET

2016-10-18 Thread Nicholas Duane
, Nick From: Nicholas Duane Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 9:36 PM To: Log4J Users List Subject: Re: porting log4j2 to .NET But I'm not suggesting a code base that will run everywhere. As I said, I'm not talking about a single source code base.

Re: porting log4j2 to .NET

2016-10-18 Thread Nicholas Duane
d in it going off in its own direction as I see a big benefit in having similar logging frameworks across Java and .NET. Thanks, Nick From: Ralph Goers Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 8:08 PM To: Log4J Users List Subject: Re: porting log4j2 to .NET I feel lost b

Re: porting log4j2 to .NET

2016-10-18 Thread Ralph Goers
with my questions as I try to > work though the issues I have with our implementation. > > > Thanks, > > Nick > > > From: Ralph Goers <mailto:ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>> > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 4:25 PM > To: Log

Re: porting log4j2 to .NET

2016-10-18 Thread Nicholas Duane
difficult. By the way, thanks to everyone for putting up with my questions as I try to work though the issues I have with our implementation. Thanks, Nick From: Ralph Goers Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 4:25 PM To: Log4J Users List Subject: Re: porting log4

Re: porting log4j2 to .NET

2016-10-18 Thread Ralph Goers
nfigured > programmatically > > > I'm sure there's some stuff I'm missing. Still not sure why most of the > design for this has to know what runtime/language it's targeting. > > > Thanks, > > Nick > > _________________

Re: porting log4j2 to .NET

2016-10-18 Thread Nicholas Duane
ctober 18, 2016 12:22 PM To: Log4J Users List Subject: Re: porting log4j2 to .NET Really, the only portable-ish way to make a common framework would be to write them in C or Rust or something and make glue code for every runtime out there. JVM users tend to prefer Java-native libraries over JNI/JNA

Re: porting log4j2 to .NET

2016-10-18 Thread Gary Gregory
r. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also not sure about the OOP thing. As far as I can tell, OOP is > just a > > > > convenience thing, syntactic sugar. I believe you can do the same > in a > > > > procedural language. > > > >

Re: porting log4j2 to .NET

2016-10-18 Thread Matt Sicker
esigned OS/runtime > > agnostic > > > and without having to design to a lowest common denominator. > > > > > > > > > Also not sure about the OOP thing. As far as I can tell, OOP is just a > > > convenience thing, syntactic sugar. I beli

Re: porting log4j2 to .NET

2016-10-18 Thread Mikael Ståldal
. I believe you can do the same in a > > procedural language. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Nick > > > > > > From: Matt Sicker > > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 10:37 AM > > To: Log4J Users List >

Re: porting log4j2 to .NET

2016-10-18 Thread Matt Sicker
icker > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 10:37 AM > To: Log4J Users List > Subject: Re: porting log4j2 to .NET > > Every programming language has its own idioms, and that even goes for all > the various JVM languages as demonstrated by the log4j-scala API. Unless > you mean mor

Re: porting log4j2 to .NET

2016-10-18 Thread Nicholas Duane
actic sugar. I believe you can do the same in a procedural language. Thanks, Nick From: Matt Sicker Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 10:37 AM To: Log4J Users List Subject: Re: porting log4j2 to .NET Every programming language has its own idioms, and that even goe

Re: porting log4j2 to .NET

2016-10-18 Thread Matt Sicker
ferent. Maybe there's even a feature that > one implementation has that others don't just because there is no way, or > no easy enough way to implement. > > > Thanks, > > Nick > > ____________________ > From: Mikael Ståldal > Sent: Tuesday

Re: porting log4j2 to .NET

2016-10-18 Thread Nicholas Duane
ffer is full it compresses it and sends it via http to one of our endpoints. Thanks, Nick From: Mikael Ståldal Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 10:06 AM To: Log4J Users List Subject: Re: porting log4j2 to .NET ...or a standardized non-binary format (like GELF, J

Re: porting log4j2 to .NET

2016-10-18 Thread Nicholas Duane
___ From: Mikael Ståldal Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 10:04 AM To: Log4J Users List Subject: Re: porting log4j2 to .NET Maybe I am nitpicking, but Log4j is also (mostly) agnostic to what language you run on the JVM (Java, Scala, Groovy, Clojure, etc). I guess it would be nice t

Re: porting log4j2 to .NET

2016-10-18 Thread Mikael Ståldal
g to pick a logging > framework > > to use and I find a popular one which is capable and runs similarly > across > > the OS's and languages then that's a big plus in my mind. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Nick > > > > _________

Re: porting log4j2 to .NET

2016-10-18 Thread Mikael Ståldal
nguages then that's a big plus in my mind. > > > Thanks, > > Nick > > > From: Mikael Ståldal > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 2:52 AM > To: Log4J Users List > Subject: Re: porting log4j2 to .NET > > Just to make things c

Re: porting log4j2 to .NET

2016-10-18 Thread Ralph Goers
x27;s a big plus in my mind. >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Nick >> >> ____________ >> From: Mikael Ståldal >> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 2:52 AM >> To: Log4J Users List >> Subject: Re: porting log4j2 to .NET >&

Re: porting log4j2 to .NET

2016-10-18 Thread Matt Sicker
Nick > > > From: Mikael Ståldal > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 2:52 AM > To: Log4J Users List > Subject: Re: porting log4j2 to .NET > > Just to make things clear, Log4j is a logging framework for the JVM > platform, and it is agnostic to the

Re: porting log4j2 to .NET

2016-10-18 Thread Nicholas Duane
Mikael Ståldal Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 2:52 AM To: Log4J Users List Subject: Re: porting log4j2 to .NET Just to make things clear, Log4j is a logging framework for the JVM platform, and it is agnostic to the underlying OS. It it well tested on (at least) both Linux and Windows. On Tue, Oct

Re: porting log4j2 to .NET

2016-10-17 Thread Mikael Ståldal
I have already > had some email exchanges with the log4net mailing list regarding porting > log4j2 to .NET. My suggestion was that the apache logging framework be a > single architecture design which is platform agnostic and then teams which > port to the different platforms. It seem

Re: porting log4j2 to .NET

2016-10-17 Thread Nicholas Duane
we double your estimate, 3 people taking 4 months? Doesn't sound too bad. Thanks, Nick From: Gary Gregory Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 8:54 PM To: Log4J Users List Subject: Re: porting log4j2 to .NET Random guesstimate for a complete port, including tests

Re: porting log4j2 to .NET

2016-10-17 Thread Gary Gregory
ave already > had some email exchanges with the log4net mailing list regarding porting > log4j2 to .NET. My suggestion was that the apache logging framework be a > single architecture design which is platform agnostic and then teams which > port to the different platforms. It seems log4ne

porting log4j2 to .NET

2016-10-17 Thread Nicholas Duane
Figured I would send this question out to the log4j side. I have already had some email exchanges with the log4net mailing list regarding porting log4j2 to .NET. My suggestion was that the apache logging framework be a single architecture design which is platform agnostic and then teams which