> -Original Message-
> There was a moral in this story but I forgot it in the process of
> rambling on. Probably something about munging Reply-To, or putting
> all middle management up against a wall and shooting them (which ICL
> did a short while later).
Not all of them some of
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 07:15:26PM -0500, Benjamin Holzman wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:07:38PM -0600, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> > Linux UI question (on Debian/KDE laptop right now): If I copy
^^^
> $ sudo apt-get install wmnetselect
> $ wmnetselec
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:07:38PM -0600, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> Linux UI question (on Debian/KDE laptop right now): If I copy
> a URL in a mail message by highlighting it, what's the fastest
> way of getting that loaded in a browser? Right now I have
> to delete the URL in a browser window and t
> My solution is truly disgusting, but works. I've patched bash so that I
> can paste (middle click) a http URL onto the command line and it will
> start in netscape. As I always have at least one terminal open on my
> desktop that does the job perfectly.
Whenever I'm doing this I tend to
1)
* jo walsh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> a friend asked me to pass this on, it seems interesting.
> (symbian looking for 1 junior 1 senior perm perl bods)
> in a parallel world where i have cft, this has gone in the jobs
> database. um.
>
you dont want this job, you'd have to sit near me ;-)
a friend asked me to pass this on, it seems interesting.
(symbian looking for 1 junior 1 senior perm perl bods)
in a parallel world where i have cft, this has gone in the jobs
database. um.
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The contact details are:
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Man
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:42:58PM -0600, Paul Makepeace wrote:
>
> Exercise: Implement the "except the last" in a regex :-)
> Extra points for squeezing it into a single regex rather than
> a while / $' solution
s/\.(?=.*\.)/_/g;
.robin.
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Are we not drawn onward, we few, drawn onward to
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 06:17:45PM +, Robin Houston wrote:
> I suppose you were hoping for a simpler procedure, but this is
> the simplest I've found. Possibly IE doesn't have that problem.
It has others, it'll s/\./_/g for all except the last.
Exercise: Implement the "except the last" in a
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:07:38PM -0600, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> Linux UI question (on Debian/KDE laptop right now): If I copy
> a URL in a mail message by highlighting it, what's the fastest
> way of getting that loaded in a browser?
Just place the pointer over the current web page and click th
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:07:38PM -0600, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> Linux UI question (on Debian/KDE laptop right now): If I copy
> a URL in a mail message by highlighting it, what's the fastest
> way of getting that loaded in a browser? Right now I have
> to delete the URL in a browser window and
* at 24/01 12:07 -0600 Paul Makepeace said:
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 01:47:59PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
> > Jon, who thinks Windows workstation connected to *nix machine running samba
> > is the prefered development environment.
>
> Aye aye. Windows UI is much nicer than linux's (right n
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 06:02:25PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Dreamweaver (I know, don't ask) nicely escapes the spaces to
> %20 but when I try and download these, the %20 appears in the
> Netscape file save as box instead of spaces.
>
> Does anyone know how or i
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 01:09:41PM +, Simon Wistow wrote:
> Here here. I have yet to find a Unix editor I like. SO I use Ultraedit
> under Wine c.f http://www.twoshortplanks.com/simon/stuff/uedit.jpg
Allaire's HomeSite is excellent as a perl editor too; regexes, syntax
colouring, open file ta
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:07:38PM -0600, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 01:47:59PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
> > Jon, who thinks Windows workstation connected to *nix machine running samba
> > is the prefered development environment.
> Aye aye. Windows UI is much nicer than
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 01:47:59PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
> Jon, who thinks Windows workstation connected to *nix machine running samba
> is the prefered development environment.
Aye aye. Windows UI is much nicer than linux's (right now) and
linux doesn't have a decent browser which is a
OK I'm sure I should know this but I don't !
I have lusers who want to publish M$ Word templates on my site. That's
fine, once I'd sorted out mime types but these file names have spaces in
them.
Dreamweaver (I know, don't ask) nicely escapes the spaces to %20 but when
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 05:11:25PM +, Michael Stevens wrote:
>
> Much as I love Computer Modern for technical work, using it for fiction
> would just be WRONG WRONG WRONG.
In a good way :-)
.robin.
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 05:03:14PM +, Robin Houston wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 04:35:17PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
> > I wonder if anyone has written a novel in Latex?
> That sounds like a challenge to me :-)
> You have to set it in Computer Modern as well though.
Much as I love
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 04:35:17PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
>
> I wonder if anyone has written a novel in Latex?
That sounds like a challenge to me :-)
You have to set it in Computer Modern as well though.
.robin.
On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 04:35:17PM -, Jonathan Peterson typed:
>We are assuming technical type book here then? I wonder if anyone has
>written a novel in Latex?
Closest I've seen is role-playing materials written in LyX - but
they're pretty technical in organisation.
Roger
At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:41:01 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:36:28 +, Neil Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> I know you've probably got load on at the mo, but the website
> >> still lists the February meeting as being at the PO. An update
> >>
At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:20:36 +, Neil Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:36:28 +, Neil Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> I know you've probably got load on at the mo, but the website
> >> still lists the February meeting as being at the PO. An up
>At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:36:28 +, Neil Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Dave
>>
>> I know you've probably got load on at the mo, but the website still
>> lists the February meeting as being at the PO. An update perhaps?
>
>Which page did you have in mind? It all looks up to date to me.
> >
> > so in retrospect what would be the best format to produce a book in?
>
> Oh, I'd probably do something based using the Template Toolkit :)
>
> But seriously, probably DocBook, or Latex.
We are assuming technical type book here then? I wonder if anyone has
written a novel in Latex?
The si
>At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:36:28 +, Neil Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Dave
>>
>> I know you've probably got load on at the mo, but the website still
>> lists the February meeting as being at the PO. An update perhaps?
>
>Which page did you have in mind? It all looks up to date to me.
>
>
At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:36:28 +, Neil Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dave
>
> I know you've probably got load on at the mo, but the website still
> lists the February meeting as being at the PO. An update perhaps?
Which page did you have in mind? It all looks up to date to me.
Dave..
At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:23:57 -, "Bates, Duncan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>I wrote my book under Windows - I figured that Word would be the easiest
> way to produce it.<<
>
> so in retrospect what would be the best format to produce a book in?
Oh, I'd probably do something based using th
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 01:47:59PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
> >
>
> Jon, who thinks Windows workstation connected to *nix machine running samba
> is the prefered development environment.
I'm with you on that one. That's what I'm doing right now, and with PuTTY
being such a great tiny-foot
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 02:23:57PM -, Bates, Duncan wrote:
> >>I wrote my book under Windows - I figured that Word would be the easiest
> way to produce it.<<
>
> so in retrospect what would be the best format to produce a book in?
docbook?
markup / WYSINWYG rules
dj
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 03:36:28PM +, Neil Ford wrote:
> I know you've probably got load on at the mo, but the website still
> lists the February meeting as being at the PO. An update perhaps?
http://dave.told.us.to is correct though :-)
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Dave
I know you've probably got load on at the mo, but the website still
lists the February meeting as being at the PO. An update perhaps?
Neil.
--
Neil C. Ford
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.binky.ourshack.org
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Robert Shiels wrote:
> From: "Jonathan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > > *nix is not the future. Something else entirely is.
> >
> > Yeah, BeOS. BeOS is the future. Which is to say BeOS _was_ the future. Oh
> > well.
> >
> > Jon, who thinks Windows workstation connected
Original Message-
From: David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Must remember to try IE under WINE.
>
>Don't bother. It doesn't work.
I've seen IE5 running under wine on Debian. The machine did have a 98
partition though so he might have been using the libraries from there,
is that chea
-Original Message-
From: Robert Shiels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Jon, who thinks Windows workstation connected to *nix machine
running
>samba
>> is the prefered development environment.
>
>Strangely enough, thats exactly what I do at home. With Exceed for
doing X
>stuff.
If you've got a nic
>>I wrote my book under Windows - I figured that Word would be the easiest
way to produce it.<<
so in retrospect what would be the best format to produce a book in?
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Developer
Proxicom UK
Tel: 020 7321 3812
Mobile: 07884 336 532
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On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 02:18:17PM +, Roger Burton West wrote:
> Must remember to try IE under WINE.
Don't bother. It doesn't work.
--
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This is nice. Any idea what body-part it is?
At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:18:17 +, Roger Burton West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just find Windows too bloody frustrating whenever I want to do
> anything other than edit "documents".
I wrote my book under Windows - I figured that Word would be the
easiest way to produce it.
This was a mi
On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 02:15:34PM +, Michael Stevens typed:
>What box I want depends on the local environment - windows boxes can
>be easier to run on windows networks, and linux boxes on more unixy or
>open networks.
I just find Windows too bloody frustrating whenever I want to do
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 02:05:27PM -, Robert Shiels wrote:
> From: "Jonathan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > > *nix is not the future. Something else entirely is.
> >
> Strangely enough, thats exactly what I do at home. With Exceed for doing X
> stuff.
The one windows application I can't
From: "Jonathan Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > *nix is not the future. Something else entirely is.
>
> Yeah, BeOS. BeOS is the future. Which is to say BeOS _was_ the future. Oh
> well.
>
> Jon, who thinks Windows workstation connected to *nix machine running
samba
> is the prefered development
>
> *nix is not the future. Something else entirely is.
Yeah, BeOS. BeOS is the future. Which is to say BeOS _was_ the future. Oh
well.
Jon, who thinks Windows workstation connected to *nix machine running samba
is the prefered development environment.
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 01:31:02PM +, Richard Clamp wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:08:50PM +, Michael Stevens wrote:
> > Emacs is available for windows. Now if I can just persuade it to save
> > with unix line ending conventions...
> Having recently done this, the thing you want is
>
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:39:13PM +, Michael Stevens wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:36:40PM +, Roger Burton West wrote:
> > On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:31:28PM +, Michael Stevens typed:
> > >I propose we drag these people and drop them in those big rubbish bins
> > >you s
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:08:50PM +, Michael Stevens wrote:
>
> Emacs is available for windows. Now if I can just persuade it to save
> with unix line ending conventions...
Having recently done this, the thing you want is
set-buffer-file-coding-system, the default keybinding being 'C-x RET
Michael Stevens wrote:
> I hate to say it, but I'm slowly becoming converted to windows cut & paste.
>
> I like being able to highlight a block of text and hit ctrl-v to replace
> that with the contents of the clipboard.
Why do you hate to say it? It's better than cut and paste of X.
Linux i
Mark Fowler wrote:
> UltraEdit32 is a really good windows editor[1] if you like the way of
> Windows. It does all the right things (in the way that perl does all the
> right things) with line endings. And a lot more (but in a good way, not
> in a bloat way)
Here here. I have yet to find a Unix
From: "Michael Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 24 January 2001 12:43
Subject: Re: odd -w effect
>
> OTOH, that doesn't help us much with the desirable goal of getting unix
> used more in the workplace. I dunno.
>
Well, it does actually, in a roundabout way. People who
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Andy Wardley wrote:
>
> Meanwhile, the usual bunch of know-nothing, self-important idiots with
> nothing better to do (i.e. failed middle management moved sideways to
> another middle managment position) starting sending replies to everyone
> demanding that they stop being se
As I seemed to be destined to be ignored, I'll do what I should have done
and shoult a little louder:
UltraEdit32 is a really good windows editor[1] if you like the way of
Windows. It does all the right things (in the way that perl does all the
right things) with line endings. And a lot more (b
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:46:13PM +, Roger Burton West wrote:
> On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:43:46PM +, Michael Stevens typed:
>
> >We need to just get on with using linux, and other sensible stuff, and
> >IF PEOPLE ASK QUESTIONS then we can tell them about it. But we shouldn't
>
On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:43:46PM +, Michael Stevens typed:
>We need to just get on with using linux, and other sensible stuff, and
>IF PEOPLE ASK QUESTIONS then we can tell them about it. But we shouldn't
>try to promote it as what they want, because invariably they start going
>"
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:35:17PM -, Robert Shiels wrote:
> Let's be kind to the poor Windows users, encouraging them with the lure of
> free powerful software; once they get a taste for it they'll be begging you
> to help them get Linux installed as a dual boot on their home machines, then
Greg Cope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Dear All
>
> All the posts about XP and a Slashdot article about it got me thinking
> and I have a generic question for the virtual floor.
>
> Does Anyone know of any good perl test tutorials - i.e how to make
> various test suites for a perl modules "mak
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:36:40PM +, Roger Burton West wrote:
> On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:31:28PM +, Michael Stevens typed:
> >I propose we drag these people and drop them in those big rubbish bins
> >you see outside offices.
> D&D is vaguely useful sometimes. Just not when I'm
>
> >Got it -- something else to stick in the commit checks... grrr... I
forgot
> >that some people use windows.
>
> If only I could.
>
> Try using CVS when some people insist on editing with Windows...
Let's just take it as a fact that Linux is better than Windows; we all know
this, we all run
On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:31:28PM +, Michael Stevens typed:
>I propose we drag these people and drop them in those big rubbish bins
>you see outside offices.
D&D is vaguely useful sometimes. Just not when I'm editing text.
Anyone played much with PowerArchiver? Freeware WinZip clo
On Jan 24, 11:07am, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
> The line I heard was "they decided to line up all the inept middle
> managers at ICL up aganst a wall but they couldn't find a wll long
> enough..."
That's frighteningly close to being true.
I worked at ICL Bracknell 01, the large building you see com
* at 24/01 13:18 + Greg McCarroll said:
> * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:08:50 +, Michael Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:04:33PM +, Roger Burton West wrote:
> > > > On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:08:37PM +000
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 01:18:16PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> > And Xemacs. Seems to work fine with both Unix and DOS line endings, but
> > I haven't yet worked out how to change them.
> its more the people, a lot of them want to drag and drop and
> have file menus
I propose we drag these peo
At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:18:16 +, Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:08:50 +, Michael Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:04:33PM +, Roger Burton West wrote:
> > > > On or about We
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:08:50 +, Michael Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:04:33PM +, Roger Burton West wrote:
> > > On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:08:37PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
> > > >Got it -- somethi
Michael Stevens wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:04:33PM +, Roger Burton West wrote:
> > Try using CVS when some people insist on editing with Windows...
>
> Emacs is available for windows. Now if I can just persuade it to save
> with unix line ending conventions...
:set fileformat=un
At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:08:50 +, Michael Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:04:33PM +, Roger Burton West wrote:
> > On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:08:37PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
> > >Got it -- something else to stick in the commit checks... grrr...
Greg Cope wrote:
> Does Anyone know of any good perl test tutorials - i.e how to make
> various test suites for a perl modules "make test" target ?
>
> I've seen the Test::Harness stuff - but am after a guide - or a few
> simple examples. All the code I read in CPAN modules t/ dir
> appears to
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:04:33PM +, Roger Burton West wrote:
> On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:08:37PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
> >Got it -- something else to stick in the commit checks... grrr... I forgot
> >that some people use windows.
> If only I could.
> Try using CVS when so
Michael Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 11:32:58AM +, Andy Wardley wrote:
> > There was a moral in this story but I forgot it in the process of
> > rambling on. Probably something about munging Reply-To, or putting
> > all middle management up against a wall and
On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:08:37PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
>Got it -- something else to stick in the commit checks... grrr... I forgot
>that some people use windows.
If only I could.
Try using CVS when some people insist on editing with Windows...
R
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:57:13PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote:
> Mark Fowler wrote:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > > Strange. Does anyone have any suggestions?
> >
> > Unix might have a problem if you take the -w out using a windows based
> > editor which will insert some nasty line te
On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 11:32:58AM +, Andy Wardley wrote:
> There was a moral in this story but I forgot it in the process of
> rambling on. Probably something about munging Reply-To, or putting
> all middle management up against a wall and shooting them (which ICL
> did a short while later).
Mark Fowler wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Strange. Does anyone have any suggestions?
>
> Unix might have a problem if you take the -w out using a windows based
> editor which will insert some nasty line terminator at the end of the
> lines and screw up the file. That's what I normal
- Original Message -
From: "Mark Fowler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 24 January 2001 11:19
Subject: Re: odd -w effect
> > Strange. Does anyone have any suggestions?
>
I've also had this problem with CGI scripts running under apache on Windows.
Keep the -w in the f
Dear All
All the posts about XP and a Slashdot article about it got me thinking
and I have a generic question for the virtual floor.
Does Anyone know of any good perl test tutorials - i.e how to make
various test suites for a perl modules "make test" target ?
I've seen the Test::Harness stuff -
On Jan 23, 11:53pm, Roger Horne wrote:
> A single email was sent by the powers that be[1]
[...]
Similar thing happened when I worked at ICL many moons ago. Some executive
sent an email to the 'icl' alias, which for some mind-bogglingly stupid
reason was a valid alias expanding to everyone who wo
> Strange. Does anyone have any suggestions?
Unix might have a problem if you take the -w out using a windows based
editor which will insert some nasty line terminator at the end of the
lines and screw up the file. That's what I normally find the problem is
when 'nix can't find the file.
Later
Just had a wierd error that I've been unable to explain.
We have a script, foo.pl, with #!/usr/local/bin/perl on the top. A 'which
perl' yeilds /usr/local/bin/perl -- all well and good so far.
% perl foo.pl
[things work]
%./foo.pl
": no such file or directory
%
Hmm. The only thing tha
On Tue 23 Jan, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> The issue of millions-of-CCs needs to be addressed by anyone
> putting together a pro-reply-to: sender argument.
Argh [ Off at a tangent ]
I subscribe to a system similar to CIX (University of Guelf conferencing system).
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