- Original Message -
From: "Chris Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 01 February 2001 19:17
Subject: Re: previous jobs
> > At Thu, 1 Feb 2001 09:44:28 +, Greg McCarroll
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > so who else has had cool non-IT jobs in the past?
>
On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 09:02:24AM +, Jon Nangle wrote:
> > "Elaine" == Elaine -HFB- Ashton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Elaine> And speaking of bad books, who is this Martin Brown guy who has
> Elaine> a new book every month these days, certainly he must have a
> Elaine> g
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 09:22:57AM -0600, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote:
>
> And speaking of bad books, who is this Martin Brown guy who has a new book
> every month these days, certainly he must have a ghostwriter.
Debugging Perl ("his" latest, I believe...) is fairly evil.
> Also, be sure to queu
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote:
> No, there wasn't even something I could buy for it sadly. It's a simple
> CGI, I would have paid $15 for a quickie 'here's your simple cgi just plug
> in your variables here' code.
Been there - more often than not, the cookbook fills any holes. I
-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Holzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>True, but there aren't many people who will assume that they can
perform
>brain surgery just because they successfully applied a band-aid to a
paper
>cut the week before.
You haven't been to the NHS recently have you... ;)
-Original Message-
From: Elaine -HFB- Ashton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>anyone other than Webheads have better things to do than learn CGI.
It
>doesn't make them stupid, in fact, I'd almost argue that they are the
>bright ones.
Amen.
>Which is probably about 95% of the planet. Why should th
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 11:57:20AM -0700, Nathan Torkington wrote:
> Meaning, nobody's really a complete idiot and we'd seem just as dumb
> if we called brain surgery tech support, new mother tech support, or
> even gardening tech support.
True, but there aren't many people who will assume that t
On 01/02/2001 at 10:03 +, Robert Shiels wrote:
>Just had a look at the PC Bookshops website (www.pcbooks.co.uk).
>Didn't they
>used to have a way of finding out whether the book was actually on the
>shelf
>or not - I may drop in there today on my way south of the river (Oh, the
>shame) and wa
> At Thu, 1 Feb 2001 09:44:28 +, Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > so who else has had cool non-IT jobs in the past?
Depending on the meaning of cool ...
* I spent 3 years in Iceland working in fish-factories & fishing boats.
The Artic Ocean is way cool!
The frystihus (fre
Robin Szemeti writes:
> WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS SAYING ... (in big letters just to make sure
> :) stunningly bright but experience in a different field .. understood.
> but still one of the (very) bright ones.
When I worked at an ISP, our motto was:
The customer is an expert in their own
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 11:57:20AM -0700, Nathan Torkington wrote:
> [...] brain surgery tech support [...]
Have you got the number?
I'm having a spot of bother with my hypothalamus.
.robin.
Robin Szemeti [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth:
*>
*>I think you are getting confused between my comments about the desire
*>to learn CGI by 'normal' people ( where I reckon that these people are
*>already in the top few % of the pile) with my comments about the
*>population in general .. who err .. 'fun
On Thu, 01 Feb 2001, you wrote:
> Well, this particular one was 65 years old, a consultant to world leaders
> in Economic affairs and was completely baffled by the advent of a new
> laptop. He had better things to worry about than learning something as
> trivial and insignificant to life on the p
Robin Houston wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 02:24:08PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote:
> > Michael Stevens wrote:
> > > You could give out urls with the usernames and passwords in?
> >
> > Were you thinking of
> > http://username:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/pics/drunkenperlmongers.jpg
> > ? No such thing; R
Dave Cross [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth:
*>Data Munging with Perl
*>by David Cross
*>
*>Amazon.com Sales Rank: 760
*>
*>Blimey, how did that happen? Yesterday it was 87,867!
http://cpan.valueclick.com/authors/id/TOMC/scripts/ contains 'amarank'
which is a script you can use to feed the obsession :)
Robin Szemeti [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth:
*>
*>But what you say above proves my point dunnit ... these guys are nobel
*>laureates and they enjoy a challenge.. out there in the real world a
*>large percentage of the population finds adding up the money for the bus a
*>challenge ... the pasics of CGI
At Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:43:27 -0500, mallum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 01:48:14PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> >
> > hurrah for the mayhem of foyles!
>
> Its always fun when you get served by the crazy russian girl in there
> who always will ask you some bizzare visual
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 02:23:20PM +, James Powell wrote:
> WHSmith's www.bookshop.co.uk is good for this as they are incapable
> of storing orders so have to send each book when they get it (so you
> can end up with deliveries on subsequent days).
I weas reading a Boxman obituary earlier
(ht
on Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 01:48:14PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
>
>
> hurrah for the mayhem of foyles!
>
Its always fun when you get served by the crazy russian girl in there who
always will ask you some bizzare visual studio question, when you inform her
you use Linux and not Windows she then
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 02:44:54PM -0500, mallum wrote:
> It seems that Foyles on Tottenham Crt Rd are giving away free orielly shirts.
> I got a Perl and a Linux one just by asking ( there are loads on some
> orielly display in there ) and not even purchasing anything.
When I got there they said
> On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 01:56:24PM +, Paul Mison wrote:
> > Didn't the case of 'A Fist In the Bush' prove that Amazon's "Sales"
> > rankings are actually down to how many people look at things?
>
> Wasn't that more to do with the "people who like like also like *this*"
> rankings that the ac
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 01:42:24PM +, Roger Burton West wrote:
> On or about Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 01:39:08PM +, Michael Stevens typed:
>
> >Now if they'd just actually send me the copy I ordered...
> >(I think they said 3-5 weeks)
>
> Ditto. It's one of the 9 things remaining before they
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 01:56:24PM +, Paul Mison wrote:
> Didn't the case of 'A Fist In the Bush' prove that Amazon's "Sales"
> rankings are actually down to how many people look at things?
Wasn't that more to do with the "people who like like also like *this*"
rankings that the actual sales
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 08:52:02AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
> > Now if they'd just actually send me the copy I ordered...
> > (I think they said 3-5 weeks)
> Did you order it from amazon.co.uk? amazon.com have it stock and are
> sending it out now. It'll be another couple of weeks before it hits
>
* at 01/02 08:35 -0500 Dave Cross said:
> Data Munging with Perl
> by David Cross
>
> Amazon.com Sales Rank: 760
>
> Blimey, how did that happen? Yesterday it was 87,867!
a day in the life of a famous perl author:
goto: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1930110006/
while (1){
loo
At Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:40:08 - , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I thought you were boycotting/not paying any attention to amazon ?
Boycotting, yes. No paying any attention to, no - that would be stupid.
Much as I hate it, I must accept that the majority of my sales will
come thru Amazon. That's
hurrah for the mayhem of foyles!
* mallum ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> It seems that Foyles on Tottenham Crt Rd are giving away free orielly shirts.
> I got a Perl and a Linux one just by asking ( there are loads on some
> orielly display in there ) and not even purchasing anything.
>
> mallum
At Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:39:08 +, Michael Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 08:35:10AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
> > Data Munging with Perl
> > by David Cross
> > Amazon.com Sales Rank: 760
> > Blimey, how did that happen? Yesterday it was 87,867!
>
> Now if they'd just
At Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:44:25 +, Struan Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * at 01/02 08:35 -0500 Dave Cross said:
> > Data Munging with Perl
> > by David Cross
> >
> > Amazon.com Sales Rank: 760
> >
> > Blimey, how did that happen? Yesterday it was 87,867!
>
> a day in the life of a famous
On 01/02/2001 at 13:44 +, Struan Donald wrote:
>* at 01/02 08:35 -0500 Dave Cross said:
>> Data Munging with Perl
>> by David Cross
>>
>> Amazon.com Sales Rank: 760
>>
>> Blimey, how did that happen? Yesterday it was 87,867!
>
>a day in the life of a famous perl author:
>
>goto: http://www.ama
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 02:24:08PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote:
> Michael Stevens wrote:
> > You could give out urls with the usernames and passwords in?
> Were you thinking of
> http://username:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/pics/drunkenperlmongers.jpg ? No
> such thing; RTFRFC for more info.
Being somewhat p
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 02:24:08PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote:
> Michael Stevens wrote:
> > You could give out urls with the usernames and passwords in?
>
> Were you thinking of
> http://username:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/pics/drunkenperlmongers.jpg ? No
> such thing; RTFRFC for more info.
There may wel
Data Munging with Perl
by David Cross
Amazon.com Sales Rank: 760
Blimey, how did that happen? Yesterday it was 87,867!
Dave...
Title: RE: Amazon Sales Rank
I've noticed a few (quiet) complaints about it on the list, so I thought I'd apologise, even though it's not my fault and (barring getting an external email address, which is going to happen soon) theres nothing I can do about it.
-Original Message-
From:
Title: RE: Amazon Sales Rank
I thought you were boycotting/not paying any attention to amazon ?
PS I apologise for the html mails, the client here is set up to send out plain text, and my internal mails come out as plain text, but some stupid idiot has our smtp server / exchange server set
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 01:40:08PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I thought you were boycotting/not paying any attention to amazon ?
> PS I apologise for the html mails, the client here is set up to send out
> plain text, and my internal mails come out as plain text, but some stupid
> idiot has
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 08:35:10AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
> Data Munging with Perl
> by David Cross
> Amazon.com Sales Rank: 760
> Blimey, how did that happen? Yesterday it was 87,867!
Now if they'd just actually send me the copy I ordered...
(I think they said 3-5 weeks)
Michael
On or about Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 01:39:08PM +, Michael Stevens typed:
>Now if they'd just actually send me the copy I ordered...
>(I think they said 3-5 weeks)
Ditto. It's one of the 9 things remaining before they ship my latest
order.
Roger
I've noticed that a couple of threads have been wandering between
the dircon and hfb lists. I think that we should be heavily deprecating
the hfb list now and as some people are only on the dircon list it
means that they are only getting a partial transcript of the
discussion.
Can everyone plea
It seems that Foyles on Tottenham Crt Rd are giving away free orielly shirts.
I got a Perl and a Linux one just by asking ( there are loads on some
orielly display in there ) and not even purchasing anything.
mallum
http://10.am/Development/Perl
> >
> > I don't really like this, is there another way? I don't want to have to
> > resort to .htpasswd files, which is what I've implemented for now.
>
> er, what's wrong with them?
>
Well, publishing username/passwords to everyone who needs them is trickey,
and getting people to remember them is
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 01:02:03PM -, Robert Shiels wrote:
> For example, I took family photos, I want the whole family to look at them,
> and anyone else who they give the link to, but my mum has enough trouble
> connecting to the internet without remembering new usernames and passwords.
Us
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 01:02:03PM -, Robert Shiels wrote:
> Well, publishing username/passwords to everyone who needs them is trickey,
> and getting people to remember them is also hard.
>
> For example, I took family photos, I want the whole family to look at them,
> and anyone else who the
Those 15 minutes (each way, probably about 20 from where I am)
come out of my pay packet! And it doesn't stay open late enough
in the evening.
I've been spoilt, I used to work at Tower 42 (was natwest tower)
and the city branch was a well lobbed copy of an o'reilly book
(preferably mysql & msql)
Michael Stevens wrote:
> You could give out urls with the usernames and passwords in?
Were you thinking of
http://username:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/pics/drunkenperlmongers.jpg ? No
such thing; RTFRFC for more info.
Or were you thinking of
http://www.example.org/pics/show-pic.py?pic=drunkenperlmongers.j
* at 01/02 12:35 - Robert Shiels said:
>
> I don't really like this, is there another way? I don't want to have to
> resort to .htpasswd files, which is what I've implemented for now.
er, what's wrong with them?
struan
At 12:34 PM 2/1/01 +, jp wrote:
[snip]
>Totally unrelated, I wish they'd open a PC Bookshop in Farringdon.
But it's only a 10-15 minute stroll to the one in Southampton Row from
Farringdon.
Rob
From: "James Powell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> Totally unrelated, I wish they'd open a PC Bookshop in Farringdon.
>
Don't be so lazy :)
You can walk to Holborn in under 15 minutes.
/Robert
I'm trying to stop people buggering about on my website and looking in
directories they shouldn't be, this includes several robots that have
started trawling through it.
I have family pictures, and work related pictures. I want each group to only
look at their own images (for example I don't want
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 11:39:24AM +, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> [big snip]
>
> no .. its not (for want of a better word) rocket science, but to do it
> correctly does require a broad range of knowledge about several different
> systems and really what Ms Castro attempts to do is give a bit of al
> >IRC's IP, anyone?
> 195.82.114.160
london.rhizomatic.net === astray.com
=== twoshortplanks.com
=== huckvale.net
(which is easier to remeber than IP numbers Shirley)
Should really get round to seconding the DNS methinks.
--
print "\n",map{my$a="
Matthew Jones wrote:
>
> >so who else has had cool non-IT jobs in the past?
>
> I walways had crappy non-IT jobs. The absolute worst was when I went to work
> in a plastics factory. As new boy, it fell to me to make sure that all the
> waste plastic was disposed of as efficiently as possible.
I
On Thu, 01 Feb 2001, you wrote:
> Robin Szemeti [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth:
> *>
> *>i think we get a slanted view on what a 'normal level of intelligence'
> *>is, because in general, we work with exceptional people. I spent the last
>
> I know at least 2 nobel laureates who wouldn't know jack abo
>On or about Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 11:31:16AM +, Michael Stevens typed:
>>On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 11:28:37AM +, Neil Ford wrote:
>>> >I can't get onto any of rhizomatic.net. Is anyone else having problems?
>>> >Michael
>>> we're all there fine
>>> in actuall fact as I type this you've j
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 11:35:47AM +, Roger Burton West wrote:
> Ahem. Didn't they learn _anything_ from Microsoft?
> IRC's IP, anyone?
london.rhizomatic.net is also www.astray.com is 195.82.114.160
On or about Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 11:31:16AM +, Michael Stevens typed:
>On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 11:28:37AM +, Neil Ford wrote:
>> >I can't get onto any of rhizomatic.net. Is anyone else having problems?
>> >Michael
>> we're all there fine
>> in actuall fact as I type this you've just appear
I can't get onto any of rhizomatic.net. Is anyone else having problems?
Michael
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:21:47 +, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 12:04:54PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> > everyone is probably reading up on ruby in preparation for it
> > taking over the world
>
> Well, there's a good article on it in the "25th anniversary" Dr Dobbs
> mag
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 11:28:37AM +, Neil Ford wrote:
> >I can't get onto any of rhizomatic.net. Is anyone else having problems?
> >Michael
> we're all there fine
> in actuall fact as I type this you've just appeared :-)
Having now got on I can state the problem was a complete inability to
g
>At Thu, 1 Feb 2001 10:57:11 +, Greg McCarroll
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> > (Even more off-topic than usual)
>> >
>> > I've got four tickets for the filming of the Mark Thomas Product
>> > this Sunday. It's filmed in the pub at the end of my
>I can't get onto any of rhizomatic.net. Is anyone else having problems?
>
>Michael
we're all there fine
in actuall fact as I type this you've just appeared :-)
Neil.
--
Neil C. Ford
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.binky.ourshack.org
> >so who else has had cool non-IT jobs in the past?
Being a bus conductor during the summer holidays when I was in the sixth
form was fun.
Working on various defence projects for dodgy third world dictatorships
(including Indonesia and the US) was not, but we had wonderful toys. You
wouldn't b
At Thu, 01 Feb 2001 10:27:25 +, Greg Cope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does MT have a special T shirt vendor ?
>
> Yesterdays was a monopoply joke that I did not get
I think it was a comment on the project in Ghana (or was it Kenya?)
where the money for two hotels had ended up building
From: Greg Cope [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Does MT have a special T shirt vendor ?
>
> Yesterdays was a monopoply joke that I did not get
I tuned in halfway through an item about ECGD (the UK Govt's export credit
guarantee department), which was something to do with two hotels they helped
fu
Dave Cross wrote:
>
> At Thu, 01 Feb 2001 10:27:25 +, Greg Cope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
> > Does MT have a special T shirt vendor ?
> >
> > Yesterdays was a monopoply joke that I did not get
>
> I think it was a comment on the project in Ghana (or was it Kenya?)
> where the mone
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 05:01:37AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
>
> Within the script, the lines output to different files depending on
> a $type data field. The files are used like this:
>
> my $fh = "FH$type";
> open $fh, ">&=$streamnum{$type}" or die $!;
> print $fh "some data from the input file
At Thu, 1 Feb 2001 10:52:25 +, Robin Houston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 05:01:37AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
> >
> > Within the script, the lines output to different files depending on
> > a $type data field. The files are used like this:
> >
> > my $fh = "FH$type";
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> (Even more off-topic than usual)
>
> I've got four tickets for the filming of the Mark Thomas Product this
> Sunday. It's filmed in the pub at the end of my road, but I don't think
> I'll be around in time to go. You'd need to be in the pub for about
> 7:
At Thu, 1 Feb 2001 10:57:11 +, Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > (Even more off-topic than usual)
> >
> > I've got four tickets for the filming of the Mark Thomas Product
> > this Sunday. It's filmed in the pub at the end of my road, but
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 11:18:04AM +, Michael Stevens wrote:
> I can't get onto any of rhizomatic.net. Is anyone else having problems?
Not I.
London tolerates my caresses.
Bullfrog seems to be doing some spletnit shenannigans though.
.robin.
--
Straw? No, too stupid a fad! I put soot on
>so who else has had cool non-IT jobs in the past?
>
Operations Manager, Wizards of the Coast Limited
next best thing to being a crack dealer :-)
Neil.
--
Neil C. Ford
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.binky.ourshack.org
Dave Cross wrote:
>
> (Even more off-topic than usual)
>
> I've got four tickets for the filming of the Mark Thomas Product this
> Sunday. It's filmed in the pub at the end of my road, but I don't think
> I'll be around in time to go. You'd need to be in the pub for about
> 7:15pm to get decent
>
> > Also L Steins Network Programming with Perl is a good book. I'm only a
> > chunk into it buts its a good read on its own and an even better one
> > if your not from a Unix background.
>
> Yup, it's a bloody impressive book.
>
> Nat
>
Just had a look at the PC Bookshops website (www.pcbooks.c
I'm tidying up a script that splits a file into several other files.
The script is called like this:
splitter.pl < input.dat 3> out1.dat 4> out2.dat 5> out3.dat
Within the script, the lines output to different files depending on
a $type data field. The files are used like this:
my $fh = "FH$typ
>> Also L Steins Network Programming with Perl is a good book. I'm only a
>> chunk into it buts its a good read on its own and an even better one
>> if your not from a Unix background.
>
>Yup, it's a bloody impressive book.
I concur. I was lucky enough to get a look at the copy that Dave Cross h
> so who else has had cool non-IT jobs in the past?
Security guard at a site which was under constant threat from animal
rights bombers.
> >with the name and we need to ``leverage'' it (sorry) now in
> >all aspects of the company, from sales/marketting to programming
Hmmm, skills... A healthy
(Even more off-topic than usual)
I've got four tickets for the filming of the Mark Thomas Product this
Sunday. It's filmed in the pub at the end of my road, but I don't think
I'll be around in time to go. You'd need to be in the pub for about
7:15pm to get decent seats, but the filming doesn't ac
At Thu, 1 Feb 2001 09:44:28 +, Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> so who else has had cool non-IT jobs in the past?
I was the social secretary at City University for a year - 1981/2. Does
that count?
Interesting stories that I can be persuaded to tell after a few beers:
1/ Turn
>so who else has had cool non-IT jobs in the past?
I walways had crappy non-IT jobs. The absolute worst was when I went to work
in a plastics factory. As new boy, it fell to me to make sure that all the
waste plastic was disposed of as efficiently as possible.
Translated, that meant dragging sa
so who else has had cool non-IT jobs in the past?
> -Original Message-
> From: Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >the theme of iteration is a powerful one from, we have been lucky
> >with the name and we need to ``leverage'' it (sorry) now in
> >all aspects of the company, from sal
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