Re: Technical Meeting

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 10:18:54PM +, Dave Cross wrote: > As always I'm looking for volunteers to speak at the meeting. If you've > got anything really cool[1] to tell us about then please let me know. I have a half-formed idea for a talk about applying some ideas of the Oulipo to Perl progra

Re: From whence cometh www.fnord.demon.co.uk?

On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 01:56:32PM +, Andy Wardley wrote: > ... a cryptic Perl 3 liner (which I couldn't get to work) ... See http://www.cypherspace.org/~adam/rsa/ for an explanation of that particular cryptic 3-liner :-) .robin. -- Santa, oscillate my metallic soatnas!

Simultaneously a list and a hash

In the "Directory to Data Structure" thread, there's been some talk of a value which is a list *and* a hash, so you can have a structure like $dirstruct{'mydir'}->['file1.txt', 'file2.txt'] $dirstruct{'mydir'}->{'anotherdir'}->['file3.txt', 'file4.txt'] and there was talk of tie(). But really

Re: Access Control Lists and Functions

On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 02:29:38PM +, Simon Wistow wrote: > How would the user get round this? I mean sure they could if they had > access to the source code but ... > > > I'm writing something at the moment that's got lots of > > > sub do_summat > { > my ($self, $userid, $arg1, $ar

Re: Access Control Lists and Functions

On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 05:17:08PM +, Marcel Grunauer wrote: > > Sounds like the business. There have been quite a number of Perl modules > lately that are more about the syntax and the way the language is being > used than for any specific tasks, such as: Lingua::Romana::Perligata :-) I

Speaking Welsh (Re: Speaking Japanese (Re: Access Control Lists and Functions))

On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 11:47:44AM +, Redvers Davies wrote: > And possibly some welsh... The welsh word "drwg" (pronounced the english > way is "droog") and means 'Bad, naughty, evil, wicked' etc. Anthony Burgess spoke fluent Welsh (his first wife was Welsh), so I'd have thought that was qui

Re: Access Control Lists and Functions

On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 08:47:52AM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: > Yes. I converted a little script I have that puts some stuff into a database > to use LRP. > > [snip interesting discussion] Can we see the result? I'm fascinated... .robin. -- "You are bound to be in a state of mental unrest,

trade mark parody (Re: PIMB T-shirts)

On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 08:09:55AM -0500, Alex Page wrote: > IANAL, but AFAIK parody is protected under trademark law, as long as > you're not making profit (I presume beer money for the hassle of > T-shirt making is excusable). IANAL either, but I think it's quite complicated. "More interesting

Re: PIMB T-shirts

On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 04:25:26PM +, Aaron Trevena wrote: > > ingestion has several downsides - lack of control of dosage (assuming you > eat it at a significant lump at a time), longer effects, stronger > effects (making it hard to get dosage right) and also slow absorbtion. Though all of

Re: Red Hat worm discovered

On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 12:59:56PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote: > Just to reinforce the point that this OS is a steaming pile of crap Aww c'mon! RedHat was obviously targeted because it's the most widely used! None of the vulnerable software was written by RH (and all of it was also included in o

Re: (OT-ish) whois microsoft.com

On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 12:22:14PM -0500, mallum wrote: > do a whois microsoft.com and see what you get. Well, it looks like some new entries have been added in the last couple of months. My favourite is still MICROSOFT.COM.IS.SECRETLY.RUN.BY.ILLUMINATI.TERRORISTS.NET but MICROSOFT.COM.INSPIRE

Re: (OT-ish) whois microsoft.com

On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 11:54:16AM -, Mike Chamberlain wrote: > APPLE.COM.IS.THE.CHOICE.OF.ALL.SELF.RESPECTING.TERRORISTS.NET > > Anyone spotted any others? TERRORISTS.NET.IS.SO.FUCKING.31338.NET I like 31338.net - as thought 31337.net had already gone, so they just went for the next one u

OuPerlPo

The talk I gave last night (or an outline thereof) is at http://www.kitsite.com/~robin/ou-x-po/talk/0.title.html The code for my "prisoner's JAPH": http://www.kitsite.com/~robin/ou-x-po/japh-prisoner.pl In case anyone gets really obsessed, the code I used to analyze font metrics is http://ww

Re: Big Macs v The Naked Chef -- pitfalls of scaling consultancies

On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 08:01:51PM +, Chris Benson wrote: > Another link is > > http://www.arsdigita.com/careers/ > > They seem to be a very good model for a consultancy business Personally I wouldn't like to work anywhere that thinks like this: http://www.arsdigita.com/asj/managing-so

Reply-to (was: Conslutancy)

On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 03:47:03PM +, Andy Wardley wrote: > > So without wishing to start another holy war, is it possible to change > the mailing list configuration to have a more sensible default Reply-to? I doubt it. There is an obstinate minority of list members who refuse to countenanc

Re: Munging Reply-To

On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 05:10:57PM +, alex wrote: > there is only one right way, and that's to give people the choice. > > that's what i do, and in my experience the majority prefer to have their > reply-to's munged on discussive lists such as this one. I wonder whether that's really true,

Re: Consultancy company

On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 12:49:45PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: > http://www.webreview.com/pub/2000/04/07/broken/index.html Eh? I get a four-oh-four. Did you mean http://www.webreview.com/archives/broken/2000/04_07_00.shtml ? .robin. -- "You are bound to be in a state of mental unrest, ev

Re: word processors

On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 04:35:17PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > > I wonder if anyone has written a novel in Latex? That sounds like a challenge to me :-) You have to set it in Computer Modern as well though. .robin.

Re: word processors

On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 05:11:25PM +, Michael Stevens wrote: > > Much as I love Computer Modern for technical work, using it for fiction > would just be WRONG WRONG WRONG. In a good way :-) .robin.

Re: Dumb-assed question

On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 06:02:25PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Dreamweaver (I know, don't ask) nicely escapes the spaces to > %20 but when I try and download these, the %20 appears in the > Netscape file save as box instead of spaces. > > Does anyone know how or i

Re: Dumb-assed question

On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:42:58PM -0600, Paul Makepeace wrote: > > Exercise: Implement the "except the last" in a regex :-) > Extra points for squeezing it into a single regex rather than > a while / $' solution s/\.(?=.*\.)/_/g; .robin. -- Are we not drawn onward, we few, drawn onward to

Re: Sun's Perl was Re: Application servers and e-commerce platforms

On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 10:08:10AM +, Steve Mynott wrote: > > BTW does any know why Sun refer to cpu0 and cpu2 and not 0 and 1? Is > it a marketing thing so the number 2 appears as an obvious second > processor or is there a real reason? Well, if you have four processors they're numbered 0,

Re: Mailing List Archive

Well, this discussion has been beaten to death on IRC, so I feel like I'm repeating myself here. But for the public record: ;-) - This is a public list. Anyone can subscribe using an advertised address. - We're not plotting to bring down the government. - "Information wants to be free." Old e

Re: Mailing List Archive

On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 09:14:08PM +, Leon Brocard wrote: > o grow up Hey! No need to get defensive till you lose the vote :-) .robin.

Re: Mailing List Archive

On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 06:50:59AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: > > This is all a fine plan, but it doesn't prevent external people from > achiving us in the same way that mail-archive do. I really don't think > there's a foolproof way to prevent it. I doubt that's a serious problem. I assume that

Re: List Archive ( was SUBSCRIBE london-list archive@jab.org (fwd))

On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 07:02:48AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: > I wonder what mail-archive would do if we just unsubbed their bot? Nothing, presumably. I don't think that mail-archive subbed their bot to the list - I think someone from here must have done it. They seem like a decent bunch, and don

Re: LAMP Stuff

On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 01:58:44PM +, Michael Stevens wrote: > And the url is? > > (I had a quick look at ora.com but I couldn't see anything obvious) I had a slightly slower look, and found http://www.onlamp.com/ I suppose that's probably it. .robin. -- "do not assume that you are i

Re: .emacs

On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 08:13:11PM +, Mark Fowler wrote: > > Hmm. Can you do something to save directly via scp? http://ls6-www.informatik.uni-dortmund.de/~grossjoh/emacs/tramp.html .robin. -- A man, a plan, a cat, a ham, a yak, a yam, a hat, a canal--Panama!

Re: Perl Books

On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 02:32:21PM +, Struan Donald wrote: > > er... this unweldy thing would seem to be it: > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/4045/107-2581489-8245353 A handy hint for amazon URLs: you can knock off the long number on the end, and the thing will still work.

Re: irc problems

On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 11:18:04AM +, Michael Stevens wrote: > I can't get onto any of rhizomatic.net. Is anyone else having problems? Not I. London tolerates my caresses. Bullfrog seems to be doing some spletnit shenannigans though. .robin. -- Straw? No, too stupid a fad! I put soot on

Re: Opening Files using OO Modules

On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 05:01:37AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: > > Within the script, the lines output to different files depending on > a $type data field. The files are used like this: > > my $fh = "FH$type"; > open $fh, ">&=$streamnum{$type}" or die $!; > print $fh "some data from the input file

Re: website directory access

On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 02:24:08PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: > Michael Stevens wrote: > > You could give out urls with the usernames and passwords in? > > Were you thinking of > http://username:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/pics/drunkenperlmongers.jpg ? No > such thing; RTFRFC for more info. There may wel

Re: Perl Books

On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 11:57:20AM -0700, Nathan Torkington wrote: > [...] brain surgery tech support [...] Have you got the number? I'm having a spot of bother with my hypothalamus. .robin.

Re: Mailing List Stuff

On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 12:27:16PM +, Struan Donald wrote: > * at 02/02 12:29 + Jonathan Stowe said: > > On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Dave Cross wrote: > > > > > > Any questions? > > > > > > > Yeah, can I have a pony ? > > what is it with ponys? I've wondered that too. Seems to be a #perl obsess

Re: Mailing List Stuff

On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 12:40:18PM +, Michael Stevens wrote: > >purl< pony > [purl] pony is Gimme a Pony! Pony! Pony! Pony Pony Pony! Pony > Pony Pony! Pony Pony Pony! Pony Pony Pony! Pony Pony Pony! Pony > Pony Pony! Pony Pony Pony! literal pony pony pony robin: pony pony pony =is= GLUE G

Re: Technical Meeting Sponsorship

On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 07:29:53AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: > I've been investigating places to hold Damian's meeting and I've already > got some interesting leads (the Conway Hall looks like it might well > work out!) Conway Hall would be a great venue, for the name alone! It can't be too expen

Re: [OT] symlinks to symlinks

On Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 04:07:34PM +, David Cantrell wrote: > -l will tell we whether it's a symlink, but I can't see any way of telling > what it points to perldoc -f readlink .robin.

Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-02-12

On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 10:17:42AM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: > [...] summaries of #london.pm traffic :) Now _there's_ an idea :-) Is anyone feeling really, really bored? .robin.

Re: Penderel Configuration

On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 03:26:27PM -, Robert Shiels wrote: > > I'd like to know which perl modules are already installed. Add this handy alias to your ~/.bashrc and you'll be able to find out whenever you like :-) alias lsmodules='perldoc -m perllocal | perl -nle '\''print $1 if /L<(.*?)>/'

Re: lvalue subroutines

On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 11:38:40PM +1100, Ian Brayshaw wrote: > > I'm new to the discussion of Perl6, so are there any discussions around > providing operators such as wantlvalue and wantvoid > to perform similar queries to wantarray? Yes. Damian has proposed http://dev.perl.org/rfc/21.html w

Re: lvalue subroutines

On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 10:50:26PM +1100, Ian Brayshaw wrote: > Given the following lvalue subroutine > > sub mysub : lvalue { > $value; > } > > is there any way for mysub() to be able to determine that it > was called in an lvalue context? Yeah there is, but you're no

SRN (was: lvalue subroutines)

On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 02:39:35PM +, Piers Cawley wrote: > (I note that, in the slide, (¬)^0.5 is refered to as U_SRN. Presumably > because the idea gives the mathematicians headaches too, so they hide > it slightly behind another symbol) Apparently SRN stands for "Square Root of Not", so th

Re: SRN (was: lvalue subroutines)

I've also found http://www.sigmaxi.org/amsci/issues/comsci95/compsci95-07.html "The Square Root of NOT" which seems to be a good non-experts introduction to *real* QC. .robin.

Quantum Weirdness

I just bought a Mars bar, and it's *drum roll* sixty-five grams! .robin.

Re: Quantum Weirdness

On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 05:48:27PM +, Rob Partington wrote: > > They already did that on IRC! Keep up, that man! I'm trying to cut down on IRC. It's becoming too distracting. But you miss so much by not being there. irc+- .robin. -- "Do nine men interpret?" "Nine men," I nod.

Re: New London PM Shirt Designs

On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 02:21:36PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: > push @us, all(@base); use Quantum::Superpositions; @belong_to_us { all (@Your::base) } = 1; ? .robin. -- A man, a plan, a cat, a ham, a yak, a yam, a hat, a canal--Panama!

Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-02-26

On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 06:59:10PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > No, definetly not. The partial set of prime numbers increases over > the journey through integers. 1 is the logical starting point, > and so it is added. This is the very spirit of primality. However > this may be the rantings of

Re: That thesis generator

On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 02:57:45PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > Can anyone remember the URL for the thesis generator that Damian Conway > mentioned in his talk? http://dev.null.org/dadaengine/ http://www.elsewhere.org/cgi-bin/postmodern/DadaEngine .robin. -- Satan, oscillate my metalli

Re: Descrambling CSS w/ 7 Lines Of Perl

Nice. I'm sure it can easily be shortened some more. Without even understanding what it does, it seems pretty clear that we can shave 2 bytes by changing: $_='while(read+STDIN,$_,2048){ into $_='$/=\2048;while(){ Any more obvious shavings? .robin. -- Satan, oscillate my metallic sona

Re: Descrambling CSS w/ 7 Lines Of Perl

On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 04:44:54PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: > Try posting to Fun With Perl; they like playing golf there. What do you think I did, immediately after posting here? :-) FWP is so bloody slow though, that it hasn't got there yet AFAICT... .robin. -- God! a red nugget: a fat e

Re: Strange Request

On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 03:09:42PM +, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: > /usr/lib/sendmail -t -oem Use -oi as well. You don't want "\n.\n" to terminate the message prematurely. .robin. -- "Sometimes I sit in front of my washing machine and contemplate the worthlessness of life. My washing m

Re: LWP::Simple

On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 01:38:41PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Does anybody know if LWP::Simple allow for @: convention? Yes it does. Wouldn't it have been quicker to try it than to write that message? ;-) .robin. -- Flee to me, remote elf!

Re: LWP::Simple

On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 02:44:30PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: > > For FTP URLs: don't know. For HTTP URLs: no such thing. Technically you're right. LWP does support it though. And so does every other user agent in the universe, pretty much; so you'd have to be a pretty severe standards pedant

Re: LWP::Simple

On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 02:59:13PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: > > Well, isn't being precise part of being a programmer? "Pedantic" is > basically just "precise", only a little more extreme. But "you can't just > make sh*t up and expect the computer to understand what you want, > Retardo!"[1] --

Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 11:40:18AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: > I really think I should drop the author a polite note offering him a > patch or three. A patch? It needs taking outside and shooting! package Date::MMDDYY; use strict; use vars qw(@ISA @EXPORT_OK); require Exporter; @ISA = qw(Exporte

Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 05:07:28PM +, Leon Brocard wrote: > This isn't such a crazy idea. People keep on complaining about the > quality of modules on CPAN. So pick a random one and make it better > ;-P Well, with a module like Date::MMDDYY the implementation _is_ broken - it uses gmtime() in

script archive naming

On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 05:40:21PM +, Robin Szemeti wrote: > > and I can tell you that ezscripts.org is still available There is already a site called ezscripts though: http://www.bytchandbytes.com/ezscripts/ Simplescripts is http://www.simplescripts.co.uk/ - they sell perl script

HAL (was: ISO8601 (was: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.))

On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 05:48:42PM +, Robin Szemeti wrote: > and for a bonus half point (cos its easy) .. why was HAL called HAL? Supposedly because join ("", map chr(1+ord), split"", "HAL") eq "IBM" though apparently that's accidental. "When someone pointed out the spurious association

Fruit flies like a banana

On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 06:05:21PM +, Leon Brocard wrote: > AEF sent the following bits through the ether: > > On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote: > > > Love and fruit flies, > > I only really want /one/ of those things... > Really? How many flies do you have? There's an interactive f

Re: Fruit flies like a banana

On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 06:17:13PM +, Lucy McWilliam wrote: > Yeah, like where they knock out the alcohol dehydrogenase gene and get all > the flies absolutely bladdered :-)) I think that having extra legs growing out of your head would be weirder than being drunk all the time. Not that I've

Re: Not Matt's Scripts

On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 02:08:11PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote: > 2) How do I get strftime to produce th/st/nd for the date? I can't see it > on man strftime, but I might just be going blind. use POSIX 'strftime'; my @th=(qw(th st nd rd),("th")x16)x2; $th[31]="st"; my @time=localtime; print strfti

Re: Not Matt's Scripts

On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 10:14:22PM +0100, Robert Shiels wrote: > > %e seems to be Linux specific. %d works on both Linux and Windows. Not Linux-specific, it's part of the Single Unix Specification. Point taken about Win32. .robin. -- select replace(a, CHR(88), replace(a,,'')) from (

Re: Not Matt's Scripts

On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 01:29:57PM +, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: > > my @th=(qw(th st nd rd),("th")x16)x2; $th[31]="st"; > > That's an evil and gross hack. > > sub th{(($_[0]-10-$_[0]%10)/10%10)?(qw(th st nd rd),('th')x6)[$_[0]%10]:"th"} TIMTOWTDI, thank ghod ;-) .robin. -- "It reall

Re: Benchmarking [was] Re: Not Matt's Scripts

On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 05:40:19PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: > Well, remember that the sub effecticaly recalculates (what amounts to) the > array each time. To be fair, you should include the array initialisation > inside the loop and see who wins then. Hey, that's not _fair_! The whole point o

Re: four-argument select()s

On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 05:02:40PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: > Some of you will have seen me posting in #london.pm asking about the > four-arg form of select(). IO::Select will take the pain away. use IO::Select; .robin. my @sockets = IO::Select->new(values %sockets)->can_read(10); # Ah

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 12:16:07PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > > I'd also add that Java, to my eyes, seems dreadfully uncooperative. Is it > really as hard as it seems to get a non Java program to talk to j2ee stuff? > Or is it all just part of the Java marketing? Is it me or is COM actuall

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:23:01PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: > > I concur. There is simply too much of the important stuff missing from > Java to make it useable for web content delivery as far as I can tell. > > I just couldn't do half of what I do without regexes Since excellent regex libr

Re: Perl Auto-RPC

On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:31:36PM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: > > You use the RPC::Automagic module and pass it a RPC server/port/user > name/password/whatever. From that point on it overloads the use keyword > and anything you try and use it will actually connect to the RPC server > and pass it

Re: Perl Auto-RPC

Is the intention simply that it be possible to use modules which aren't available locally? If so, you could do something like: - use request is passed to module server - module server "require"s module (will do nothing if it's already been required. That's a good thing) - server serialise

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:59:40PM +, Greg Cope wrote: > I was thinking about this the otherday - can you recommend some (pref > open source) Java regex libs ? OROMatcher. http://jakarta.apache.org/oro/index.html There's also gnu.regexp, for LGPL fans: http://www.cacas.org/~wes/java/ Both s

Re: Buffycode (was Re: "That book")

On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 11:35:33AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: > > Would this be an appropriate time to point out that my TPC talk > proposes the creation of a Parse::Perl::Approx module :) What does it do? .robin. -- Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas!

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:08:00PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Paul Makepeace wrote: > > Can Perl do distributed database transactions? > > probably .. simple multi threaded app, fork a few child processes, > establish the odd DBI connection, execute a query each return wh

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 11:32:57AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote: > > Hmm... not quite sure what happens if either of the COMMITs fail. That's exactly the problem. And what if you crash after the first COMMIT? This is not an easy problem. The usual solution is called "two-phase commit". See http://

Re: Buffy riding a pony!

That's the most addled thing I've seen for a long, long time. Congratulations! .robin.

Re: archiving

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 01:36:54PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > Did you all know that i used to blow up pressurised butane > cannisters as a child? We *all* used to do *that* :-) .robin. -- A man, a plan, a cat, a ham, a yak, a yam, a hat, a canal--Panama! --Guy Jacobson

Re: Grammar (was: Re: Linux.com Online Chat)

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 10:00:08AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: > > I'm as liberal as anyone here as far as creativity, expression, > society and the rest go, but there are certain fundamentals that you > need before you can go out and break the rules. Like having the > musical basics before you

Re: Test

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:25:50PM +0100, Clarke, Darren wrote: > Sorry all - this is a test... :¬P > > Bloomin' Outlook & HTML ... *grumble* It's coming through as multipart/alternative, which is fine IMO. People with broken mail clients may disagree :-) .robin. -- select replace(a, CHR(88)

Re: Test

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 03:09:02PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: > [...] the HTML hanger on serves no purpose except to consume > my disk space at 4 times the rate. You mean you *archive* this bollocks? :-) .robin. (reads london-pm with the 'D' key) -- Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas!

Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April

On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 04:09:14PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: > As usual I'll aim at having four or five lightning talks and two or three > longer talks. I'd like to give a (preferably "longer") talk about parsing and semantic transformation of Perl code. I promise to think of a less scar

Tech mtg?

Do we yet know if there's going to be a data projector for the tech meeting? If not, will there be _any_ kind of mechanism for showing things to people? (OHP, blackboard, whatever) .robin.

Re: Tech mtg?

On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 02:30:01PM +0100, Richard Clamp wrote: > > Now all that remains is me remebering to bring it tomorrow. Cool :-) Now I've got no excuse for not finishing my slides... :/ .robin. -- Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas!

Re: Mentioned in Dispatches

On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 02:38:26PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: > > Maybe Robin would care to comment on this :) > > ton_Left_On_ALL_WEEK> I don't have a lot of time on my hands; I work quickly ;-) I also have

Win32 perl (was: Komodo)

On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:34:17PM +0100, Dean wrote: > > Your right, the perls are the same ActiveState are just a lot more aware of > what the OS can do and lacks the ability to do and tries to compensate for > them. If you have a stocked Windows box with nmake, VC++ and a bit of time > you can

Re: Komodo

On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:36:08PM +0100, Dean wrote: > Whats MPW? Macintosh Programmers' Workshop. Delicious... > Does OS X come with GNU tools like GCC and make then? Yes (on the optional developers CD) .robin. -- Are we not drawn onward, we few, drawn onward to new era?

Mutagenic modules: online slides

The slides for the talk I gave this evening are online at http://London.pm.org/~robin/semantic-talk/0.title.html ff. .robin.

Re: Mutagenic modules: online slides

On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 11:57:01PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: > > Funny. You've come across the same idea I did. > http://simon-cozens.org/pg.pdf Having now read your paper, I think that in some ways it's the *opposite* idea; or at least a complementary one. You want to take arbitrary languages

Re: perlismybitch.com

On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 10:14:02PM -0500, will wrote: > > An old boss of mine wanted a domain that was expiring in a few weeks once so > he ran a cron task that checked the status of the domain every hour and > automatically registered it when it became available. That's how we got kitsite.com,

Re: require Module; and filehandles

On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 12:32:47AM +1000, Ian Brayshaw wrote: > Sometimes, however, no recompilation is necessary, and so I'd like > to return a filehandle that "evaluates to true" (in the 'do ' sense of > evaluates) > > Is there a way to do this without creating a dummy file (i.e. can we do t

Re: require Module; and filehandles

On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 02:11:07AM +1000, Ian Brayshaw wrote: > Thanks Robin. The TrueHandle package is essentially what I had implemented, > but it's the internal workings of require that stop the tie from being > honoured. Yes, you're quite right. Sorry. The first (PerlIO) method ought to wo

Re: require Module; and filehandles

On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 01:32:24PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: > Ian Brayshaw wrote: > > it's the internal workings of require that stop the tie > > from being honoured. I presume that the require burrows > > down into the internals and isn't aware that it's a tie'd > > handle. As far as I can te

Installing Oracle (was: DBD::*->bind_param() ?)

On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 11:31:16PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: > Does anyone? Every time I've used Oracle, it's been installed by someone > else who was supposedly an expert. Although I remain to be convinced that > any of them really *was* an expert. I've installed Oracle a few times, and I'm

Re: Funny thing

On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 02:28:04PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > $foo =~ /bar/ and {print "yes"; print "yes again";} A block is syntactically a statement, not an expression. You can use: $foo =~ /bar/ and do {print "yes"; print "yes again";}; or: $foo =~ /bar/ and (print ("yes"), print

YAPC::E abstract

Any comments before I send this off? .robin. Type: talk Duration: 40 mins Title: Mutagenic Modules Slides (draft version): http://London.pm.org/~robin/semantic-talk/0.title.html Abstract: It's possible to write a Perl module which will change the meaning of subsequent code in some way. Pragma

Re: cocktails

On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 11:47:25AM +0100, Chris Heathcote wrote: > Off the top of my head: > ICA bar, Match (Noho/Farringdon/Sosho), lab (on Old Compton St.), aka... > also heard about Smiths of Smithfield, but never been there. > > Dunno about Sun afternoon opening on all those... The ICA bar i

Apocalypse Two

http://www.perl.com/pub/2001/05/03/wall.html Some quite exciting stuff in there. Array dereferencing will be @foo[23] rather than $foo[23]. Everything will be an object (or at least work like one). No more typeglobs. User-definable quoting operators. And much, much more! .robin. -- "I dreamt

Re: Movies (was Re: Buffy musings ...)

On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 08:55:16AM -0600, Nathan Torkington wrote: > On the subject of music (despite the Subject: of movies) ... anyone > here into trad. Irish instrumental music? I'm rather fond of Sharon Shannon. Does she count? .robin. -- select replace(a, CHR(88), replace(a,,''))

Re: (Ab)Using substr

On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 09:16:25AM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote: > #!/usr/bin/perl -w # how to (ab)use substr > use strict; > my $pi='3.14159210535152623346475240375062163750446240333543375062'; Well, it's more just taking advantage of the fact that most people don'

Re: putting escape characters in files

On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 04:35:29PM +0100, Struan Donald wrote: > kind of off topic but how do you get things like ^M and such like into > a file for, say, writing vi macros? perl -e 'print "\cM"' >> my-file >;-) .robin. ps. Dominic's already given a proper answer... -- Flee to me, remote el

Re: Schroedingers Computer

On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:55:47PM +0100, Barbie wrote: > "So far, demonstrations of quantum computing have been limited to the most > rudimentary of calculations, involving only two or three bits of > information. " > > I'm sure Damian could them straight on that one ;-P Hmm, I think Damian's m

Re: Politics (was RE: BOFHs requiring license)

On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 01:06:42PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: > Is this the point where I can try and recruit some of you compscis to the > bioinformatics revolution? I've always thought it sounded like fun. How does one go about joining the bioinformatics revolution, then? .robin. -- "It

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