On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 06:02:04PM +, Leon Brocard wrote:
> a picture of him drinking a beer from the London.pm website.
Misparse! Misparse! Misparse!
--
We use Linux for all our mission-critical applications. Having the source code
means that we are not held hostage by anyone's support d
On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 09:45:34PM -, Jim Gillespie wrote:
> > > But there are alternatives. Does anyone here have any comments on
> > > Perforce or Clearcase?
Use Perforce. It's very good.
> It took me quite a while to get the hang of ClearCase but I was growing to
> like it by the end o
On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 03:44:04PM +, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
> Am I allowed to mention -MM-DD, which actually sorts best of all... Do
> we really not learn from Y2K?
You have a Y10K problem.
--
For me, UNIX is a way of being. -Armando P. Stettner
On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 04:19:57PM +, Mark Fowler wrote:
> One of my collegues asked me about Perl training courses in the U.K. To
> be honest, we have no idea what is good, what is bad, etc, and so I
> suggested asking you lot.
NetThink will be running some courses soon. Don't want to adver
On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 12:15:17AM -, Dean S Wilson wrote:
> Anyone submitting anything for this?
> http://www.ukuug.org/events/linux2001/
Yup, I've been approached for some tutorials for that.
--
It's a short step from using alt.binaries.warez.protocol-droids.c3p0 to
Palpatine seeing a pos
On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 04:08:30AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
> Anyone have any experience of these events?
I've done a couple, one for devshed.com and one for someone else. I forget.
> Is it worth getting involved.
It doesn't hurt, but it is a *leetle* bit of a waste of time. And boy, you get
s
On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 06:41:07PM +, Dave Cross wrote:
> You have a decent Perl debugger. It's called perl -d.
The most effective debugging tool is still careful thought, coupled with
judiciously placed print statements. -Kernighan, 1978
--
use POSIX;e(1);sub e{my($x,$o,$O)=@_;($x--+22)&&$
On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 10:36:01AM +, Dean wrote:
> Wait till Activestate get their IDE's out for Linux
It's already out, I thought. Needs Perl and Python and all sorts of bits and
pieces installed.
--
People who love sausages, respect the law, and work with IT standards
shouldn't watch an
On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 01:43:28PM +, David Cantrell wrote:
> is there an easy way of getting a list of all the packages which are
> currently installed? I dislike dselect intensely, and the docs for
> dpkg et al don't say anything useful.
dpkg -l
--
"Life sucks, but it's better than the a
On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 12:03:02PM +, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> But debugging tools can be very very good .. If anyone has used the Borland
> Turbo Debugger for C / C++ you'll know what I mean . even the old DOS
> version is just plain brilliant .. step around code, change registers, place
> watc
On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 06:25:40PM +, Leon Brocard wrote:
> But we know that respectable publishers don't do that kind of thing, right?
^^
I don't understand.
--
"They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the
Wright brothers
On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 06:07:52PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote:
> If he [Sarathy] had a child, it would be called Sarathy Foo.
Bit of a weird name for a kid, but I wouldn't put it past him.
--
fga is frequently given answers... the best are "Date::Calc", "use a hash",
and "yes, it's in CPAN" or
On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 06:37:13PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> (BTW does anyone know of any open source memory leak detection
> tools?)
GNU checker is surprisingly good. Unfortunately, I'm in offline mode
right now and can't find a URL. It's gccchecker in Debian.
--
It's 106 miles from Bi
On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 08:50:28AM +, Leo Lapworth wrote:
> [if the server] was set up correctly.. e.g. had Mail::Audit installed
World domination is mine, at last.
--
I hooked up my accelerator pedal in my car to my brake lights. I hit the gas,
people behind me stop, and I'm gone. -- Ste
On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 06:44:43PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
> Also, we'll need speakers for the technical meeting. If you've got anything
> cool to tell us about, please let me know. It may be a good opportunity to
> practice TPC or YAPC talks.
I can always do a talk or two, if anyone wants to
On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 10:34:38PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
> I just had to buy a bottle of Pendulum Zinfandel at the weekend - its
> Italian and comes in a shiny gold bottle ... and despite appearances its
> actually a fairly good red wine.
Ooh good. I got one of them for Christmas and still
On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 11:22:34PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
> Unfortunately, the lovely Italian wine I found in caffs throughout Naples
> back in November does not seem to be available over here at all.
Why ship the good stuff to the ignorant Brits when they can keep it for
themselves? Sound
On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 11:41:33PM +0100, Aaron Trevena wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Roger Burton West wrote:
> > >Just to let you all know I'm on the market again.
> > Me too.
> er.. and me.
Who was it that was saying that the contract market was great just now?
--
"Jesus ate my mouse" or so
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 10:22:27AM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
> Which reminds me - when the Brits acquired a taste for lager rather than
> ale,
Did we? :)
> why did we start drinking lager from every country in Europe except
> Germany, who are the only ones to actually make drinkable stuff?
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 12:02:48PM +0100, alex wrote:
> ps the big killer is that there is no large corporate generating tons of
> noise about Perl - whereas this is not the case for Java.
Wait until TPC.
--
Thus spake the master programmer:
"After three days without programming, life b
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 02:58:36PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> It's not just that, if a software house wants to support a languages
> interaction with its product, where does it go for Perl? P5P? CLPM?
NetThink? :)
> Also i think the lack of Perl certification, is one of the biggest
> problem
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:47:03PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> I suggest (with Dave Cross' blessing), that we
> form the London.pm certification. NetThink and Iterative will
> sign up to teach to a given level of skills (or several levels).
Fuck it. Let's do it.
--
Only two things are infin
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 09:05:43PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
> If I see a sensible plan for certification, this sounds sensible, but
> consider what most people think of eg. MCSEs.
That's mainly due to the M rather than the C.
--
She said that she was working for the ABC News,
It was a
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 09:57:45PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
> Maybe I should start a mailing list for discussion of this stuff tomorrow
> - thoughts ?
Sounds a good idea. We're also happy to host it, if you want.
--
"Irrigation of the land with seawater desalinated by fusion power is ancien
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:22:37PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
> There _was_ a Perl certification mailing list that Skud started a while
> back.
Unless we're thinking of different things, wasn't that just perl-trainers?
> Don't know if it still exists tho' - been quiet for a while.
Nothing on li
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 04:45:09PM -0500, Chris Devers wrote:
> Heh -- they're one of my company's main competitors. I don't know the first
> thing about them
*cough*. Hey, that's not good, you know. :)
--
The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be
regarded as a cri
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 10:33:59AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> * Robert Shiels ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Have you thought about charging structures, SAP charge about 300gbp to take
> > a certification exam, and they offer courses that are specifically designed
>
> i had thought about a 20
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 10:30:26AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> ok, but i wouldn't worry about b. anytime soon, you have to remember
> Larry has said, he'd rather be certified than see perl certification
> (or something similar)
Bzzt. That was to do with ANSI certification.
--
"You can have m
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 10:45:23AM +0100, Aaron Trevena wrote:
> > > > proposes the creation of a Parse::Perl::Approx module :)
^^
> > >
> > > What does it do?
> >
> > It, er... parses Perl.
Strictly speaking it doesn't do anything, due to not currently existing.
>
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 12:25:38AM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:48:05PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> > ok it looks like PO
> > .. or the anchor!
>
> Do either do real ale?
PO has a Cask Marque and is listed in CAMRA's 2001 Good Beer Guide.
So, uh, yes.
I
On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 12:37:11AM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Simon Cozens wrote:
> > (Spring Cascade today at the Orange Brewery brewpub
> > in Pimlico. Not a bad beer.)
> I thought you were in Wales...
I am. I just wasn&#
On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 09:13:16PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> yip and you build in, a little 10 or 20 quid donation to YAS for
> everyone done, however this would probably be voluntary or some
> such - i dont really know. but if you are doing a training course
> that cost 500+ to attend, 10 or
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 05:29:58PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote:
> I anyone thinks they owe for a slice, plesae let me know.
I think they would get a little upset if you started slicing up the
camels.
--
There is no distinction between any AI program and some existent game.
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 05:21:48PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
> Is dave cross written in Perl?
"Dave Cross Munging with Perl"
ISAGN.
--
Only two things are infinite: the universe and human ignorance. -A. Einstein
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 06:56:25PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
> OK. SO we persuade Mr Horne to blag us electronic copies of the entire UK
> law, upload it to the CVS server on SourceForge and then announce the
> project on slashdot
Bizarrely enough, I'm involved a project to do something
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 10:31:41AM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote:
> Perl is easier to parse simply because all the irregularities are known
> and documented. They're not in English. In addition to the above
^^
Uhm
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:19:32PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> Paul, whose uni got nicked in fscking cambridge.
"*think* *think* Don't they have enough universities of their own?"
--
Britain has football hooligans, Germany has neo-Nazis, and France has farmers.
-The Times
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:10:11PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote:
> Ah, but with perl code there is a definite 'correct' parsing (whatever
> /usr/bin/perl does[1]) but with the English language that isn't true.
I'm afraid that's as silly as me declaring that there's only one correct
parsing of English
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 04:30:53PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> However, it's more all these *** job agencies sending me things
> in multi-crap that I'm shifting home over a modem to read at home.
> scp -C is good at making things smaller, but not as good as not having
> crap in the firs
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 01:58:22PM -0500, Doug Sparling wrote:
> >My experience suggests it may have something to do with being in the
> >right place at the right time... :)
>
> Same goes for authoring -:)
I'd dispute the use of the word "right" in that context.
--
The Messiah will come. Ther
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 09:19:15PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
> Feature request - IMAP client.
Mail::IMAPClient exists, so I guess it's a real possibility. When I get a
spare second. (Yeah, right.)
--
We *have* dirty minds. This is not news.
- Kake Pugh
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 10:50:34PM +0100, Neil Ford wrote:
> Following on from recent topics, can anyone point me at any scripts to help
> with breaking up mailbox files?
This is what I do:
Use Mail::Audit in a loop over the mailbox, doing something like this:
my ($y, $m) = (localtime)[5,4
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 10:41:56AM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote:
> There's also Mail::Cclient (by Malcolm Beattie) which can be tricky to
> install and the interface is a bit unfriendly
That's the fault of the underlying Cclient library. :(
--
Sendmail may be safely run set-user-id to root.
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 02:54:25PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote:
> Grr. I don't *want* to turn into an elitist wanker
I seem to solve this by being one all along...
--
VMS must die!
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 01:45:40PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote:
> Thanks for reinforcing the view that people outside of New York don't
> know dirt about pizza... :-)
I thought it was "people outside of Italy". My how times change.
--
I see ADA as a larger threat than communism at this point in
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 11:24:57PM +, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> @P=split//,".URRUU\c8R";@d=split//,"\n?neht krow siht seod woh oS";sub
> p{@p{"r$p","u$p"}=(P,P);pipe"r$p","u$p";++$p;($q*=2)+=$f=!fork;map{$P=
> $P[$f^ord ($p{$_})&6];$p{$_}=/^$P/ix?$P:close$_}keys%p}p;p;p;p;p;map{$p
> {$_}=~/^[P.]/
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 05:27:57PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
> No, best pizza is in NY or the hypehnated environs.
> You go to Italky for the wine and the antipasti.
It's a hell of a trip back for the main course, though.
--
People in a Position to Know, Inc.
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 11:36:40AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Unfortunatly this is largely a valid point. Perl is not used by
> many *professional* people. Perl is used by a lot of people, and some of
> them are professional, but I wouldn't consider it the
> majority.
A professional is s
On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 12:04:15AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> ooh .. that reminds me .. the Census man has just dropped a form in .. I
> didn't reallise it was this year .. excellent .. now dont forget .. your
> religion is 'Jedi' ok ?
"Discordian". No, seriously. (Fnord)
--
It is now pitch
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 05:57:17PM +0100, Dean wrote:
> Has anyone got an views on it or the Linux version?
The Linux version is broken; it won't install, claiming you need a new
license.
lathos: I just talked to the Komodo lead. He suggests a) don't evaluate
Komodo on the Linux version, yet. b
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 01:54:56PM +0100, Aaron Trevena wrote:
> it no longer kills dia
This appears not to be the case, as of dia 0.86.
--
I did write and prove correct a 20-line program in January, but I made
the mistake of testing it on our VAX and it had an error, which two
weeks of searchi
On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 07:12:32PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
> Methinks Activestate are too much in the Windows world
I note that the Linux distribution of Kodomo contained complete distributions
of Mozilla, Perl and Python.
--
The sky already fell. Now what? -- Steven Wright
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 11:28:58AM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
> has anyone noticed much traffic on the perl-cert list or is my
> subscription just funted?
No. Greg was going to tell us Ze Master Plan. I think it involves
alcohol.
--
The best book on programming for the layman is "Alice in Won
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 01:35:25PM +0100, Struan Donald wrote:
> no idea if anyone will find this useful but:
> if you use mozilla (on linux/*nix at least) stick this:
To do something similar for Netscape, look at
http://bofh.concordia.ca/ns/ns-cli.txt
(Netscape can call out to a CGI program to p
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 11:58:00AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> umm ... since Linux accounts (at a guess) for 75% of Perl usauge, thats
> quite an 'afterthought'.
That's irrelevant. ActiveState's business is 90% Windows, so they do Windows
first.
--
heh, yeah, but Aretha could be reading out
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:29:43AM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote:
> CNN reports that BtVS's SMG will wed Freddie Prinz.
You know you've been core hacking too long when you read that as "SVtB's set
magic".
--
Um. There is no David conspiracy. Definitely not. No Kate conspiracy either.
No. No, there i
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:23:34PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> I can not see however a place in linux for any perl IDE that doesnt use a
> standard perl install. simple as that.
Then don't buy one. Those who do, will. Isn't the free market great?
--
Doubt is a pain too lonely to know that fai
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:34:30PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> but I should also add that I see anyhting which looks like splintering
> the nice world of One Big [*nix] Perl [1] into several different
> incompatible
AS Perl on Unix isn't incompatible.
--
Every little bit of seaweed kelps.
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 11:02:03AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote:
> Then you're missing half the fun. Seriously. M-x compile was the
> reason I started using emacs in the first place.
And I \N{WHITE HEART SUIT} M-x gdb
--
I respect faith, but doubt is what gives you an education.
--
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 11:53:09AM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote:
> This is for people who don't have a problem working in a bank.
Would it be worth forking london-pm-jobs?
--
The steady state of disks is full.
-- Ken Thompson
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 01:38:44PM +0100, Paul Mison wrote:
> There's a fairly long standing and, from what I remember, well
> respected habit of using JOB in the subject line- if it really annoys
> you, filtering on that should reduce the jobness of the list quite a
> lot.
Ah, bingo. Thanks.
>
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 05:12:57PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
> Can't you call it an "Enterprise cross-platform file sharing solution" or
> something like that?
So is Napster.
--
DEC diagnostics would run on a dead whale.
-- Mel Ferentz
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 05:12:20PM +0100, Mike Wyer wrote:
> The okapi was much better (think giraffe crossed with zebra with a
> tongue any muff diver would kill for)
Do they have bonobo? I thought bonobo were the generic sexual zoo inhabitant.
--
"MSDOS didn't get as bad as it is overnight --
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 11:50:46PM +0100, Robin Houston wrote:
> The slides for the talk I gave this evening are online at
> http://London.pm.org/~robin/semantic-talk/0.title.html ff.
Funny. You've come across the same idea I did.
http://simon-cozens.org/pg.pdf
--
?warning: write might change g
On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 09:02:16AM +0100, Robert Shiels wrote:
> How did contractors here come up with the names for their companies
Your main choice is between sounding "established", "professional" or
"informal".
"Established" companies contain merely names, and give no indication of what
they
On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 01:39:38PM +0100, Robert Shiels wrote:
> I thought of "Shiels IT Services",
> but one potential acronym of this is not very pleasing :-)
Well, that might be a feature, you know. After all, it's what a lot of people
think of when they think of contractors.
--
Simon: `hel
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 06:50:18PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
> OK, I give you Perl, the Perl debugger, and B::Generate. First one to
> optimise Perl code (maybe replacing bits of Perl with XS on the fly?)
> gets a pat on the back.
I think NI-S is working on it; see recent perl6-language discussi
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 05:55:06PM -0400, Alex Page wrote:
> Blimey, there's an Oxford perl mongers! You mean I'm not the
> only perl coder in this city?!?
No.
--
"I find that anthropomorphism really doesn't help me with a place full
of bugs." -- Megahal (trained on asr), 1998-11-06
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 11:00:40PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 05:55:06PM -0400, Alex Page wrote:
> > Blimey, there's an Oxford perl mongers! You mean I'm not the
> > only perl coder in this city?!?
> No.
By which I mean, yes, you'
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 11:07:08PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
> Can any of you boozy reprobates recommend a boozer in Dublin for a geeky
> piss-up?
My first recommendation would be the Messrs. Maguire on Burgh Key is a
nice place - very *big* pub (it's on three levels) and serves pretty
good fo
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 12:16:32PM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> Clearly says someone who's hasn't installed Oracle recently!
You can install Oracle now? Wow, they must have really been fixing it
of late.
--
If the code and the comments disagree, then both are probably wrong.
On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 09:25:16PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
> ... Did you know there's a guy living in our closet?
You've seen him too?
--
King's Law of Clues : Common sense is inversely proportional to the
academic intelligence of the person concerned.
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 08:14:47PM +1000, Damian Conway wrote:
> package DotsForArrows;
> use Filter::Simple;
> FILTER { s/\b\.(?=[a-z_\$({[])/->/gi };
That's BORING. Obviously the right way to do it is to allow lvalue
overloaded operators, and overload "." for everything.
--
On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 08:55:16AM -0600, Nathan Torkington wrote:
> On the subject of music (despite the Subject: of movies) ... anyone
> here into trad. Irish instrumental music?
Yes, very definitely. Unfortunately I don't play anything vaguely relevant,
apart from the guitar. I'd *really* love
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 11:22:45AM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote:
> Do you write it in raw Tex/LaTeX, or do you generate that from some other
> format (like, perhaps, XML)? I'd be interested in seeing the intermediate
> stages.
For my writing these days, I do
SGML -> tex ( -> pdf | -> d
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 04:22:04PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
> How many things do you have on top of your monitor?
Nothing. If your monitor cost as much as mine, you'd keep it sacrosanct
too.
--
SM is fun. ADSM is not.
"Safe, Sane, Consensual"... three words that cannot used to describe
A
On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 04:08:27PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> Aha - some dark evil force creates a website (BIG FONTS) that attracts young
> people from the world and has lots of flashy stuff on it (ok it would be
> flash, but this is a movie, so its just going to be BIG FONTS AND SWIRLING
> S
On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 08:06:48PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote:
> > Snow Crash, essentially.
>
> I was thinking recently about how well it would work as a film.
You're obviously not the only one:
http://www.corona.bc.ca/films/details/snowcrash.html
--
Intel engineering seem to have misheard Intel
On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 03:30:31AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/7/18866.html
> Absurd, laughable and bizarre. What *is* wrong with the UK?
Don't ask me, you elected 'em. And it looks like you're all stupid enough
to do it *again*.
--
Pray to God, but keep
On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 05:22:49PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> How can any socialist not feel that when it came to the crunch socialism was
> rejected by intelligent people who understood its principals and benefits
> intimitadly because they could see it would not work for modern Britain?
Whi
On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 05:35:24PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
> Do the Lib Dems think along these lines? No-one knows cos the LDs have
> never seemed to have any policies ever.
Actually, I like the idea of parties which don't have any policies. They're
supposed to represent what we tell them t
On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 06:30:44PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote:
> Hey, what if we had a system where we just elected a *candidate* we
> liked, like one for each local area or something? Pretty crazy, huh?
Democracy? In this country? It wouldn't work.
Democracy is overrated. I think a meritocracy is
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 10:52:50AM +0100, Peter Haworth wrote:
> I keep meaning to ask, where do all these plan9 bad day quotes come from?
The plan9 fortune file. It's the mistakes they made while they were
developing it.
--
yes >/dev/kmem # Shutdown is broken. This'll have to do
- pla
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 11:58:42AM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
> I recall the previous government being impressively dishonest about a great
> many things.
When was the last government that was *not* impressively dishonest?
I think there might have been one around 1868, but I'm not sure.
> The
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 10:37:23AM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote:
> Here's a pretty fundamental issue. Why do so many people seem to think that
> low taxes are good?
Rule one, man, rule one.
--
EFNet is like one big advertisement for lobotomies.
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 12:16:27PM +0100, Matthew Jones wrote:
> It also irtritates me when the oil companies hike fuel prices and the "dump
> the pump" lobby respond by suggesting that the government drop tax. Why
> don't they ever have a go at BP or Shell?
You don't elect BP or Shell.
--
"He
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 11:17:14AM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
> 2. A teacher can't be alone in a room with a pupil unless the door is open.
I know it's one of those Zen koans, but I just can't work it out.
--
Feed me on TOASTIES! There's no HALL for PHILOSOPHERS ON FRIDAYS.
- Henry Bra
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 03:49:26PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote:
> Unless the door to the pupil's mind is open then there is no teacher.
> And he was enlightened.
http://simon-cozens.org/hacks/grok
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On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 04:08:27PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> Of course we could make a cyberpunk movie instead, now let
> me thing about it
IN AD 1987, PERL WAS BEGINNING.
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On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 04:45:13PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
> Particularly with the lack of an Internet Driving License, anyway.
It's crap, but... http://www.ecdl.com/
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On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 05:54:26PM +0200, Niklas Nordebo wrote:
> > It's crap, but... http://www.ecdl.com/
> Isn't that more of a Microsoft Driving License?
It may have escaped your notice but the people who need it tend to be the
people likely to use Microsoft software...
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On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 01:58:41PM -0400, Piers Cawley wrote:
> Simon Cozens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Rule one, man, rule one.
> What? Always be wary of smiling old men?
purl, rule one?
it has been said that rule one is "People Are Stupid"
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On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 10:10:23AM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
> we are considering funding the development of a procmail-a-like for
> snail-mail.
I want a procphone.
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On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 12:15:32PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote:
> On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 12:04:24PM +0100, James Powell wrote:
> > Heh, don't forget to have a RBL-like list of source telephone numbers.
> Definitely. A whitelist too, of course.
Now *this* is why I want programmable mobile phones.
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On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 12:30:59PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote:
> Ho hum. If I wasn't trying to get some work done, I'd grab sphinx and
> write some code.
One of the things I plan to do on my way around America after TPC is sit
down with Kevin and DHD and start writing some funky robots. sphinx +
in
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 12:43:59PM +0100, James Powell wrote:
> > No; many people withhold automatically, it a legitimate privacy concern.
> That's what the terse message is for ("reveal yourself, or bugger off").
> I suppose it could go to answerphone.
Caller detect doesn't work for internation
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 01:25:23PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
> Simon Cozens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Caller detect doesn't work for international calls either.
>
> Untrue. When I get calls from friends in Sweden I can see who they
> are.
And when I get ca
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 01:38:26PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
> Ok, so you should have said "Caller detect doesn't work for some
> international calls either".
But, you see, if a call ID is withheld, you can't tell whether they're
international calls with non-working caller detect or domestic
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 02:09:47PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> yeah .. thats fine .. it doesn't work from creaky old strowger exchanges
> either (are there any of those left ? ) but there is a subtle difference
> between 'number withheld' and 'number unavailable'
There is, but not all phones ma
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 01:19:36PM +0100, Robin Houston wrote:
> What's the footnote on page 78, Dave?
IAND, but... "I like the fact that the new name includes the word "Symbol",
since it means that we can also call it
The::Module::Formerly::Known::as::Sub::Approx.
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