Re: [lpi-examdev] Suggestion for 105.3 (Exam 101) mysqldump
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 8:57 AM, Harald Maaßen har...@nwa-net.de wrote: Probably basic database management (dump/backup/restore) can be a junior sysadmin task, but at least up to now is not covered in LPI 1. When it will we will have to look at database engine popularity. We have much time until version 4.5 of LPIC-1. ;-) Or put it in v4.5 of LPIC-2 :) Or my favourite option, punt on the whole issue and create DBA certification exams. This is what LPI-Japan did: http://www.oss-db.jp/ (Un)fortunately, it hasn't made it outside of Japan. BTW, these certs are based on PostgreSQL due to its popularity there. Regards, -- G. Matthew Rice m...@starnix.com gpg id: EF9AAD20 ___ lpi-examdev mailing list lpi-examdev@lpi.org http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
Re: [lpi-examdev] Suggestion for 105.3 (Exam 101) mysqldump
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Harald Maaßen har...@nwa-net.de wrote: There are only funny looking characters and pictures on that page. ;-) This doesn't get all of those thingies but it helps: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=jatl=enjs=yprev=_thl=enie=UTF-8u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.oss-db.jp%2Fedit-text= -- G. Matthew Rice m...@starnix.com gpg id: EF9AAD20 ___ lpi-examdev mailing list lpi-examdev@lpi.org http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
Re: [lpi-examdev] Suggestion for 105.3 (Exam 101) mysqldump
Am 10.02.2015 um 15:32 schrieb G. Matthew Rice: Or put it in v4.5 of LPIC-2 :) This is a really good idea! mysqldump would fit well under 206.2 Backup operations. :-) Or my favourite option, punt on the whole issue and create DBA certification exams. This is what LPI-Japan did: http://www.oss-db.jp/ There are only funny looking characters and pictures on that page. ;-) (Un)fortunately, it hasn't made it outside of Japan. BTW, these certs are based on PostgreSQL due to its popularity there. Regards, Best Regards Harald ___ lpi-examdev mailing list lpi-examdev@lpi.org http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
Re: [lpi-examdev] Suggestion for 105.3 (Exam 101) mysqldump
On 10/02/2015 14:57, Harald Maaßen wrote: That's right! Topic 105.3 is named SQL data management. That does not include backup or restoring of data. But no law stops us from changing the name of this topic. It's also possible to increase the weight to 3, so we can put an additional question on the exam about this. This one point for weight can be taken from 106.2 Setup a display manager for example. That's right, it does not include backup of data, neither the editor section does for files. Anyway backup is an LPI 2 argument, it has to stay there. I'm totally against changing the topic or raising it weight, in my opinion 2 question on SQL are already too much, I'd prefer 0, like it was. LPI should be a Linux Sysadmin Certification, this is a generic argument, it tell almost nothing about you are proficient in Linux. If you want to cover database server administration on Linux, I can agree, but that's more a topic for a dedicated level 3 exam. Simone -- Simone Piccardi Truelite Srl picca...@truelite.it (email/jabber) Via Monferrato, 6 Tel. +39-347-103243350142 Firenze http://www.truelite.it Tel. +39-055-7879597Fax. +39-055-736 ___ lpi-examdev mailing list lpi-examdev@lpi.org http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
Re: [lpi-examdev] Fwd: Re: Suggestion for 105.3 (Exam 101) mysqldump
Am 10.02.2015 um 15:14 schrieb Anselm Lingnau: I think that would be a terrible idea. Should we force candidates to familiarise themselves with the administration tools of several SQL database servers (which tend to be huge and complicated programs) just so we can ask 1 (one) question about this in the LPIC-1 exam? I say over my dead body. O.k. I relinquish on mysqldump. It would be a little overacted to kill someone only because of one command. Harald, nobody prevents you from teaching your students how to dump MySQL databases even if that isn't actually an exam topic. There are lots of things that students have to learn out of the scope from certifications. Regards Harald ___ lpi-examdev mailing list lpi-examdev@lpi.org http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
Re: [lpi-examdev] suid
On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Possibly the original intent of the objective is to highlight that suid-bits do nothing on scripts. As opposed to what they do on compiled binaries. Hey guys, I should point out that, in some markets, the LPIC certifications are not only marketed as Linux certifications. They market them as general Unix certifications, as well. IIRC, the suid-edness of scripts on Linux section of the objectives was added when it did matter and it's been retained for the above reason. However, a quick search about the subject has lots of people mentioning that other Unixes are following suit. Can anyone verify this on some of the popular Unixes? I haven't had access to those guys for years. Regards, --matt -- G. Matthew Rice m...@starnix.com gpg id: EF9AAD20 ___ lpi-examdev mailing list lpi-examdev@lpi.org http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
Re: [lpi-examdev] Fwd: [lpi-discuss] OpenLDAP server coverage in LPIC2-v4
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 4:05 AM, Éric Deschamps erd...@free.fr wrote: The summary of major changes describes it as: hi Eric, As Reinier mentioned, it is a lot to cover for a weighting of 4. However, if you include 210.3 LDAP client usage, you're up to 6 weights which makes it 10% of the exam. That said and don't hold me to this, but - LDIF format and changetype: do my attendee need to know every changetype as it was in 301.1? There's only 4 of them right? Covering CRUD operations and moddn. This doesn't seem to onerous yet. :) - loglevel: do my attendee need to know that loglevel 256 means stats, or do they just need to know the keyword and that you can add the values? I think that you're safe covering it as a keyword and that the values can be ORed together. If I was writing courseware, I'd point out some of the more useful values, too. - slapd.conf and or cn=config? Transition from slapd.conf to cn=config? slaptest command? Yes. Yes. And, it wouldn't hurt. slaptest isn't explicitly mentioned in the objectives but knowledge of it is useful. - which version of OpenLDAP? The ones on CentOS/RedHat6 and Debian 7? I think that's fine. - whitepages: schemas needed or more? I think that's fine, too. - Directories: LDAP concepts, history with X.500, ports, different models, URL formats, types of DIT, major attributes? You should be safe with sticking with the Key Knowledge Areas that are mentioned in the objectives. - ACL with slapacl? (in this case, we should add it to the list of utilities). Up to you. I don't think that it's mentioned in the exam content and we are trying to keep the overall coverage as light as possible. HTH, --matt -- G. Matthew Rice m...@starnix.com gpg id: EF9AAD20 ___ lpi-examdev mailing list lpi-examdev@lpi.org http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
[lpi-examdev] SQL in LPIC 1
Dear listers, I fully agree with Simone Piccardi who wrote: I'm totally against changing the topic or raising it weight, in my opinion 2 question on SQL are already too much, I'd prefer 0, like it was. LPI should be a Linux Sysadmin Certification, this is a generic argument, it tell almost nothing about you are proficient in Linux. To me, SQL is just another application domain. I have spent decades of my career as a full time UNIX administrator in a technical environment without ever touching SQL. If you argue that many administrators get involved in SQL, the same is true for HTML, or colour theory, or version control systems, or .. There are many more reasons to examine XML basics, because that really is a topic that any modern Linux administrator needs a basic grasp of. Hendrik-Jan Thomassen -- Hendrik-Jan Thomassen h...@atcomputing.nl AT Computing Linux/UNIXperts, opleiders oplossers Tel +31 24 352 72 82 Kerkenbos 1238Tel cursussecretariaat: +31 24 352 72 72 6546 BE Nijmegen Fax +31 24 352 72 92 i...@atcomputing.nl www.atcomputing.nl 'If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.' ___ lpi-examdev mailing list lpi-examdev@lpi.org http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
Re: [lpi-examdev] Suggestion for 105.3 (Exam 101) mysqldump
Harald Maaßen har...@nwa-net.de écrit : while working on topic 105.3 sometimes students ask me, how to backup a mysql database. I think we should add mysqldump to topic 105.3 because IMHO everybody should be able to backup a database. The way it is now, objective 105.3 is database-agnostic and only deals with generic SQL. Moreover, for only 2 questions, the spectrum of knowledge is already very large so I don't think adding more stuff is necessary. And, for the sake of neutrality, if dealing with MySQL, one should also speak of MariaDB, PostgreSQL (which is, IMHO, a much better RDBMS) and SQLite. Anyway you're free to add extra topics to your teachings, such as mysqldump. In my teachings, I use SQLite, because it's much easier to set up than a full-featured RDBMS and I explain students how to use it, even if it's not in the objectives. -- Marc Baudoin Linagora formation - responsable pédagogique http://formation.linagora.com/ La présente transmission contient des informations confidentielles appartenant à Linagora, exclusivement destinées au(x) destinataire(s) identifié(s) ci-dessus. Si vous n'en faites pas partie, toute reproduction, distribution ou divulgation de tout ou partie des informations de cette transmission, ou toute action effectuée sur la base de celles-ci vous sont formellement interdites. Si vous avez reçu cette transmission par erreur, nous vous remercions de nous en avertir et de la détruire de votre système d'information. The present transmission contains privileged and confidential information belonging to Linagora, exclusively intended for the recipient(s) thereabove identified. If you are not one of these aforementioned recipients, any reproduction, distribution, disclosure of said information in whole or in part, as well as any action undertaken on the basis of said information are strictly prohibited. If you received the present transmission by mistake, please inform us and destroy it from your messenging and information systems. ___ lpi-examdev mailing list lpi-examdev@lpi.org http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
Re: [lpi-examdev] Suggestion for 105.3 (Exam 101) mysqldump
Harald Maaßen har...@nwa-net.de wrote: I think we should add mysqldump to topic 105.3 because IMHO everybody should be able to backup a database. Exactly where does topic 105.3 talk about MySQL in the first place? If everybody should be able to backup a MySQL database, shouldn't everybody be able to restore one, too, so shouldn't we also add the commands to do that? Do we then also add pg_dump and pg_restore because some people may be using PostgreSQL instead? What about other SQL databases? IMHO one of the strengths of 105.3 is that so far we have managed to avoid tying it to a specific database implementation. Let's try to keep it that way. Adding mysqldump to the exam would drag in all sorts of other MySQL bits and pieces (mysqladmin? mysql?) and would expose us to criticism from people who don't like MySQL and prefer PostgreSQL, or for that matter Sqlite or DB2 or Oracle or other popular database server of the week. We would end up in yet another situation where we would have to include the rudiments of all of them just to avoid offending people. (We used to be in a similar place with respect to MTAs, and fortunately that has sorted itself out to some degree.) The other thing is that 105.3 is a weight-2 topic. Asking 2 questions about rudimentary SQL makes sense as far as I'm concerned; asking 2 questions about rudimentary SQL and the administration of half a dozen different SQL servers doesn't. Anselm Disclaimer: This is my own personal opinion and not that of my employer. -- Anselm Lingnau ... Linup Front GmbH ... Linux-, Open-Source- Netz-Schulungen anselm.ling...@linupfront.de, +49(0)6151-9067-103, Fax -299, www.linupfront.de Linup Front GmbH, Postfach 100121, 64201 Darmstadt, Germany Sitz: Weiterstadt (AG Darmstadt, HRB7705), Geschäftsführer: Oliver Michel ___ lpi-examdev mailing list lpi-examdev@lpi.org http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
Re: [lpi-examdev] Suggestion for 105.3 (Exam 101) mysqldump
Marc Baudoin mbaud...@linagora.com wrote: Anyway you're free to add extra topics to your teachings, such as mysqldump. In my teachings, I use SQLite, because it's much easier to set up than a full-featured RDBMS and I explain students how to use it, even if it's not in the objectives. Exactly. That's what we do, too, because SQLite is part of all major Linux distributions and comes with the least amount of baggage attached. Anyone can type “sqlite3 foobar.db” and be in business, without having to set up a database server, user accounts, etc. Which is not to say that the database servers are bad (I personally prefer PostgreSQL over MySQL) but as far as I'm concerned their specifics aren't exactly standard fare for junior system administrators. Anselm -- Anselm Lingnau ... Linup Front GmbH ... Linux-, Open-Source- Netz-Schulungen anselm.ling...@linupfront.de, +49(0)6151-9067-103, Fax -299, www.linupfront.de Linup Front GmbH, Postfach 100121, 64201 Darmstadt, Germany Sitz: Weiterstadt (AG Darmstadt, HRB7705), Geschäftsführer: Oliver Michel ___ lpi-examdev mailing list lpi-examdev@lpi.org http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
Re: [lpi-examdev] Suggestion for 105.3 (Exam 101) mysqldump
Am 10.02.2015 um 10:19 schrieb Anselm Lingnau: Exactly where does topic 105.3 talk about MySQL in the first place? This is a good question. It doesn't. But I see it on a hight position in this logarithmic(!) ranking. The ranking shows the importance of mysql: http://db-engines.com/en/ranking_trend If everybody should be able to backup a MySQL database, shouldn't everybody be able to restore one, too, so shouldn't we also add the commands to do that? Do we then also add pg_dump and pg_restore because some people may be using PostgreSQL instead? What about other SQL databases? Of course everybody should also be able to restore a database. As mysqldump does the backup and the restore as well I didn't mention it explicit. IMHO one of the strengths of 105.3 is that so far we have managed to avoid tying it to a specific database implementation. Let's try to keep it that way. I agree with this argument. Best Regards Harald ___ lpi-examdev mailing list lpi-examdev@lpi.org http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
Re: [lpi-examdev] Suggestion for 105.3 (Exam 101) mysqldump
Am 10.02.2015 um 12:28 schrieb Simone Piccardi As I understood 105.3 is not about database server management, but about using SQL to manage basic operation on the data stored in a database. That's right! Topic 105.3 is named SQL data management. That does not include backup or restoring of data. But no law stops us from changing the name of this topic. It's also possible to increase the weight to 3, so we can put an additional question on the exam about this. This one point for weight can be taken from 106.2 Setup a display manager for example. Probably basic database management (dump/backup/restore) can be a junior sysadmin task, but at least up to now is not covered in LPI 1. When it will we will have to look at database engine popularity. We have much time until version 4.5 of LPIC-1. ;-) Best Regards Harald ___ lpi-examdev mailing list lpi-examdev@lpi.org http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
Re: [lpi-examdev] SQL in LPIC 1
I agree, let's stay with LINUX. Dave Utso Byte Knowledge -Original Message- From: Hendrik Jan Thomassen h...@atcomputing.nl To: lpi-examdev lpi-examdev@lpi.org Sent: Tue, Feb 10, 2015 9:39 am Subject: [lpi-examdev] SQL in LPIC 1 Dear listers, I fully agree with Simone Piccardi who wrote: I'm totally against changing the topic or raising it weight, in my opinion 2 question on SQL are already too much, I'd prefer 0, like it was. LPI should be a Linux Sysadmin Certification, this is a generic argument, it tell almost nothing about you are proficient in Linux. To me, SQL is just another application domain. I have spent decades of my career as a full time UNIX administrator in a technical environment without ever touching SQL. If you argue that many administrators get involved in SQL, the same is true for HTML, or colour theory, or version control systems, or .. There are many more reasons to examine XML basics, because that really is a topic that any modern Linux administrator needs a basic grasp of. Hendrik-Jan Thomassen -- Hendrik-Jan Thomassen h...@atcomputing.nl AT Computing Linux/UNIXperts, opleiders oplossers Tel +31 24 352 72 82 Kerkenbos 1238Tel cursussecretariaat: +31 24 352 72 72 6546 BE Nijmegen Fax +31 24 352 72 92 i...@atcomputing.nl www.atcomputing.nl 'If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.' ___ lpi-examdev mailing list lpi-examdev@lpi.org http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev ___ lpi-examdev mailing list lpi-examdev@lpi.org http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
Re: [lpi-examdev] Suggestion for 105.3 (Exam 101) mysqldump
Am 10.02.2015 um 15:59 schrieb G. Matthew Rice: On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Harald Maaßen har...@nwa-net.de wrote: There are only funny looking characters and pictures on that page. ;-) This doesn't get all of those thingies but it helps: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=jatl=enjs=yprev=_thl=enie=UTF-8u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.oss-db.jp%2Fedit-text= Thanks Matt. Like this looks much better for me. :-) ___ lpi-examdev mailing list lpi-examdev@lpi.org http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
Re: [lpi-examdev] Suggestion for 105.3 (Exam 101) mysqldump
Am 10.02.2015 um 16:01 schrieb Simone Piccardi: I'm totally against changing the topic or raising it weight, in my opinion 2 question on SQL are already too much, I'd prefer 0, like it was. LPI should be a Linux Sysadmin Certification, this is a generic argument, it tell almost nothing about you are proficient in Linux. I would not be sad, if SQL would be removed from the exams completely. But if there are databases, they need to be backed up. Regards Harald ___ lpi-examdev mailing list lpi-examdev@lpi.org http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
Re: [lpi-examdev] Fwd: [lpi-discuss] OpenLDAP server coverage in LPIC2-v4
Ok, it seems clearer. I'll try to manage with that, many thanks for your answers, Reineier, Bryan and Matt! Kind Regards, Éric Le 10/02/2015 16:30, G. Matthew Rice a écrit : On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 4:05 AM, Éric Deschamps erd...@free.fr wrote: The summary of major changes describes it as: hi Eric, As Reinier mentioned, it is a lot to cover for a weighting of 4. However, if you include 210.3 LDAP client usage, you're up to 6 weights which makes it 10% of the exam. That said and don't hold me to this, but - LDIF format and changetype: do my attendee need to know every changetype as it was in 301.1? There's only 4 of them right? Covering CRUD operations and moddn. This doesn't seem to onerous yet. :) - loglevel: do my attendee need to know that loglevel 256 means stats, or do they just need to know the keyword and that you can add the values? I think that you're safe covering it as a keyword and that the values can be ORed together. If I was writing courseware, I'd point out some of the more useful values, too. - slapd.conf and or cn=config? Transition from slapd.conf to cn=config? slaptest command? Yes. Yes. And, it wouldn't hurt. slaptest isn't explicitly mentioned in the objectives but knowledge of it is useful. - which version of OpenLDAP? The ones on CentOS/RedHat6 and Debian 7? I think that's fine. - whitepages: schemas needed or more? I think that's fine, too. - Directories: LDAP concepts, history with X.500, ports, different models, URL formats, types of DIT, major attributes? You should be safe with sticking with the Key Knowledge Areas that are mentioned in the objectives. - ACL with slapacl? (in this case, we should add it to the list of utilities). Up to you. I don't think that it's mentioned in the exam content and we are trying to keep the overall coverage as light as possible. HTH, --matt ___ lpi-examdev mailing list lpi-examdev@lpi.org http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
[lpi-examdev] My reasons for including SQL knowledge for Junior Linux Sysadm students.
My 102 students often asks me why SQL is needed for a Linux sysadm. I give the reason that they might need to install some software eg. a CMS, that requires a SQL database and a SQL user. And they shouldn't just give the MySQL root-password to the developers. I also tell them that MySQL is much more used than other RDBS on Linux so they should focus on MySQL. Then I teach them how to create a MySQL user, a little bit about grants and how to create an database. I think that a Junior Linux Sysadm. should be able to create a MySQL user and database. However he/she doesn't need to understand group by, subqueries etc. I know that PostgreSQL is much better for programming but for a Junior Level Sysadm. specific MySQL knowledge is important. So move the focus away from the SQL language to more sysadm. task based items eg. create a MySQL user, database, backup/restore etc. /Martin ___ lpi-examdev mailing list lpi-examdev@lpi.org http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
Re: [lpi-examdev] Fwd: Re: Suggestion for 105.3 (Exam 101) mysqldump
On 10/02/2015 at 15:14, Anselm Lingnau wrote: [...] Should we force candidates to familiarise themselves with the administration tools of several SQL database servers (which tend to be huge and complicated programs) just so we can ask 1 (one) question about this in the LPIC-1 exam? I say over my dead body. I surely do *not* want you to die, Anselm, but I do back you on this line. :-) -- Alessandro Selli Tel: 340.839.73.05 VOIP: sip:dhatarat...@ekiga.net Chiave firma PGP/GPG signing key: B7FD89FD Chiave crittografia PGP/GPG encrypting key: A6023DD5 ___ lpi-examdev mailing list lpi-examdev@lpi.org http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
Re: [lpi-examdev] SQL in LPIC 1
Hi there, I would vote for removing SQL from LPIC-1 during the next objective update too. Unfortunately this will be somewhere far away in the future as we're just switching to version 4. As Martin points out, user management and security are important for database administrators -- as they are for plenty of services, like an XMPP service or restrictive VPN access. Also, as Harald mentioned, all data needs to be backed up. But again, this is application specific. However, these aspects change the focus of the objective (specific server management/operation (dealing with the database process) vs. DDL/SQL (dealing with the database content)) as well as its position on the LPIC-track (should be somewhere near Apache as an own topic, which means LPIC-2, as it is no core system service). And this not only opens up the discussion of MySQL vs. PostgreSQL, it may also attract one or the other NoSQL guy waiting around the corner... so where to put an end to all those possibilities to be included or not? I'm not sure why we have SQL on the exams right not, t may have come from the LAMP term, but than I'd suggest reconsidering its relevance in case we HOPEFULLY one day get to work on the pending LPIC-3 exams (a long long time ago people thought about having an exam 306 Web Services). IMHO for sysadmins even LDAP has a higher relevance than SQL, which is why it was moved to LPIC-2. Also, in 304 we don't specifically test database HA, although it has some specific aspects. But is just considered one application next to others with our focus not being those applications but the general infrastructure. I'd like to do the same regarding SQL in LPIC-1. As we just had a large review of the LPIC-1 objectives I added the SQL issue to the Future Change Consideration section of the wiki page so that we can come back to that discussion once we get the change to reevaluate the objectives again. We *may* consider placing database servers in the next LPIC-2 JTA as well, but I personally would like to see it being part of a Web server administrator exam that includes the whole LAMP-stack in all its derivations. But this is yet nothing to even dream about :( Regards, Fabian On 02/10/2015 06:39 PM, Hendrik Jan Thomassen wrote: Dear listers, I fully agree with Simone Piccardi who wrote: I'm totally against changing the topic or raising it weight, in my opinion 2 question on SQL are already too much, I'd prefer 0, like it was. LPI should be a Linux Sysadmin Certification, this is a generic argument, it tell almost nothing about you are proficient in Linux. To me, SQL is just another application domain. I have spent decades of my career as a full time UNIX administrator in a technical environment without ever touching SQL. If you argue that many administrators get involved in SQL, the same is true for HTML, or colour theory, or version control systems, or .. There are many more reasons to examine XML basics, because that really is a topic that any modern Linux administrator needs a basic grasp of. Hendrik-Jan Thomassen ___ lpi-examdev mailing list lpi-examdev@lpi.org http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
Re: [lpi-examdev] Suggestion for 105.3 (Exam 101) mysqldump
On 10/02/2015 at 16:01, Simone Piccardi wrote:
[...]
I'm totally against changing the topic or raising it weight, in my
opinion 2 question on SQL are already too much, I'd prefer 0, like it
was. LPI should be a Linux Sysadmin Certification, this is a generic
argument, it tell almost nothing about you are proficient in Linux.
I agree. The only databases that I can think of that are truly
Linux-related are rpm's Berkley database files /var/lib/rpm/__db.00? or GNU
locate db file /var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db. Also the aliasdb file that is
created by the newaliases command, maybe. I cannot make up my mind what the
/var/log/{w,b}tmp files ought to be called, perhaps they're more like a
mashed-up bit-broth than a real database. But I would not recommend adding
any of them to the LPIC-1 objectives.
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Re: [lpi-examdev] Suggestion for 105.3 (Exam 101) mysqldump
Am 10.02.2015 um 16:01 schrieb Simone Piccardi: I'm totally against changing the topic or raising it weight, in my opinion 2 question on SQL are already too much, I'd prefer 0, like it was. LPI should be a Linux Sysadmin Certification, this is a generic argument, it tell almost nothing about you are proficient in Linux. +1 Ingo -- Linuxhotel GmbH, Geschäftsführer Dipl.-Ing. Ingo Wichmann HRB 20463 Amtsgericht Essen, UStID DE 814 943 641 Antonienallee 1, 45279 Essen, Tel.: 0201 8536-600, http://www.linuxhotel.de ___ lpi-examdev mailing list lpi-examdev@lpi.org http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
[lpi-examdev] Fwd: Re: Suggestion for 105.3 (Exam 101) mysqldump
Harald Maaßen har...@nwa-net.de wrote: That's right! Topic 105.3 is named SQL data management. That does not include backup or restoring of data. But no law stops us from changing the name of this topic. It's also possible to increase the weight to 3, so we can put an additional question on the exam about this. I think that would be a terrible idea. Should we force candidates to familiarise themselves with the administration tools of several SQL database servers (which tend to be huge and complicated programs) just so we can ask 1 (one) question about this in the LPIC-1 exam? I say over my dead body. Harald, nobody prevents you from teaching your students how to dump MySQL databases even if that isn't actually an exam topic. I teach my students not to touch MySQL with a long pole, and would like to keep things that way. Also, if you want MySQL certification you know where to find that. Anselm -- Anselm Lingnau ... Linup Front GmbH ... Linux-, Open-Source- Netz-Schulungen anselm.ling...@linupfront.de, +49(0)6151-9067-103, Fax -299, www.linupfront.de Linup Front GmbH, Postfach 100121, 64201 Darmstadt, Germany Sitz: Weiterstadt (AG Darmstadt, HRB7705), Geschäftsführer: Oliver Michel ___ lpi-examdev mailing list lpi-examdev@lpi.org http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
