[LUTE] was NG now Korg

2008-07-31 Thread David Tayler
snip I don't have the OT-120, but its predecessor the MT-1200 snip The MT 1200 is programmable, and has octave stretching (for pianos and some fortepianos). The MT1200 is more accurate than any of the Korg models. It is truly good to half a cent, which is pretty good. However, due to the input

[LUTE] Re: Lyrics for Robert.

2008-07-31 Thread David Tayler
I'm assuming you are referring to Thibaut IV, Count of Champagne King of Navarre. One of the most fascinating and talented of the trouveres. Descended from Eleanor of Acquitaine. The poem Robert, veez de Pieron, if that is what you seek, is considered a retroncha because of the the refrain

[LUTE] Re: Bach prelude MP3

2008-07-29 Thread David Tayler
I think it is easier on the archlute :) dt At 03:27 PM 7/27/2008, you wrote: I enjoyed your recording very much. Why no transcription for baroque lute? Doesn't it fall well on the fingerboard? Damian My arrangement of the Bach prelude from the cello suite in D minor is available as a free

[LUTE] Re: Bach prelude MP3

2008-07-29 Thread David Tayler
Message- From: David Tayler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 5:06 PM To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Bach prelude MP3 My arrangement of the Bach prelude from the cello suite in D minor is available as a free download http

[LUTE] Re: More on lute songs

2008-07-29 Thread David Tayler
Dan Heartz is an accomplished lute player. dt One thing to bear in mind is that no musicologist of that generation actually played the lute. Playing transcriptions of the music on the piano might give one an overall sense of the music but the 'sound world' of the instrument makes a

[LUTE] Bach prelude MP3

2008-07-26 Thread David Tayler
My arrangement of the Bach prelude from the cello suite in D minor is available as a free download http://www.voicesofmusic.org/DT%20Prelude%20MMB.mp3 Tab will be up hopefully early next week arranged for 7,8,10 c lute and archlute dt To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: videos

2008-07-24 Thread David Tayler
is well, it most likely is a CPU?graphics subsystem issue. Sometimes, there is also an issue at the server side. Just slow. dt At 11:36 AM 7/23/2008, you wrote: On Jul 12, 2008, at 12:37 AM, David Tayler wrote: You can see the results here for comparison, with the caveat that this was a very dark

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Lutes

2008-07-24 Thread David Tayler
Dowland's lute is discussed in my dissertation, I basically came to a similar conclusion, although your work is much more detailed, and goes more into the stringing. Simply, I theorized (mind you this was twenty years ago, now) that there were essentailly two lutes, a seven and a nine. The six

[LUTE] Re: Barto videos

2008-07-24 Thread David Tayler
Go Rob! w00t! dt At 05:34 AM 7/23/2008, you wrote: Daniel Shoskes has added quite a few Barto/Weiss/Reusner videos to the Vimeo site: http://www.vimeo.com/Francesco - as well as his own performances of Lauffensteiner. All well worth a look and a listen. There are now 136 lute and early guitar

[LUTE] Re: More on lute songs

2008-07-24 Thread David Tayler
There are a significant number of pieces with introductions, such as I saw my lady weep In darkness let me dwell, and, notably, John Daniel's setting of his brothers tryptich Grief keep within, to name but a few. An analysis of the extant introductions, in which the music is through composed

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Lutes--the hidden piece

2008-07-24 Thread David Tayler
Galliard no 14 in Francisque, which is not in Poulton, is one of Dowland's more interesting pieces. I don't believe it has been recorded--perhaps Rob will be the first and put it on his site :) Perhaps someone recorded it--I did a search at some point It is for 7c lute. dt To get on or

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Lutes--the hidden piece

2008-07-24 Thread David Tayler
Rob is correct--there is a very interesting use of the 7th course to provide an alternate fingering for the low B Flat for voice leading reasons in the third strain. Quintessential Dowland. So ideally it could be played on an eight course or a nine course. Very intriguing; hat tip to Rob, well

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Lutes--the hidden piece

2008-07-24 Thread David Tayler
Francisque took and wrote a galliard on it. Does that make it a piece by Dowland? Of course, Diana Poulton knew of this setting - see her biography, pp 62, 289 and 489. It is well known that David Tayler doesn't accept the Holmes manuscripts or Variety as reliable sources for Dowland's music

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Lutes--the hidden piece

2008-07-24 Thread David Tayler
Rainer has raised the point as to why one would include a piece in the Dowland Canon without attribution. It is a good question. let's take a quick look. It turns out many works by Dowland have no attribution. And this is true for many composers. In The Poulton/Lam edition (CLM) No. 60 is a

[LUTE] Re: Piccinini's rolls

2008-07-22 Thread David Tayler
I'm sure he preferred the sound. Whether he himself, or others, adhered to the instructions religiously is another matter. He certainly qualifies as an expert. dt At 10:43 AM 7/22/2008, you wrote: Does it have anything to do with The Orbo? (cf. Kapsperger) Peter Nightingale [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[LUTE] Re: Piccinini's rolls

2008-07-22 Thread David Tayler
I think Peachy falls into the very picky category. Hard to ignore the first responders. dt To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Piccinini's rolls

2008-07-22 Thread David Tayler
on and on. Even the odd angle of holding the lute with the neck pointing down to the floor. It was an age of freewheeling diversity. dt At 08:46 PM 7/22/2008, you wrote: On Jul 22, 2008, at 5:29 PM, David Tayler wrote: I think Peachy falls into the very picky category. Hard to ignore the first

[LUTE] Re: Crawford Young LSA Concert Program

2008-07-20 Thread David Tayler
There's a couple of ways to go. The skippy part is not always the contratenor part, but you can pick the skippiest part, for sure. These are the combos I use most often Two lutes Two vielles One lute, one vielle One vielle, one lute (joke) One lute, one harp--here the lute takes the part with

[LUTE] Re: Take II: last joints that bend backwards.

2008-07-17 Thread David Tayler
I would not say that the tip of the finger controls the tone so much as that if the tip curls in at the wrong moment it will ruin the tone. If the tip merely follows the fingers and remains flexible, the tone has a much better center. The tone does not start with tip, I think. The wrist is also

[LUTE] Re: Dance of the Washer Woman.

2008-07-15 Thread David Tayler
Here's the arrangement, kinda tricky because of the strange harmonies. It is in Fronimo as well as pdf as well as notes, in addition to both modern and renaissance flute, the top part can be played also on lute or recorder, so it can work as a lute duet as well. http://tinyurl.com/5sp5tm Since

[LUTE] Re: Dance of the Washer Woman.

2008-07-14 Thread David Tayler
If you email a pdf, or better yet a fronimo or midi file of the music I will make an arrangement for you and your daughter. dt At 01:34 PM 7/14/2008, you wrote: Greetings, My 12 year old daughter has recently been looking at the various Lute pieces that I have got and has taken a liking to

[LUTE] Re: Dance of the Washer Woman.

2008-07-14 Thread David Tayler
? :-) Arto On 7/15/2008, David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you email a pdf, or better yet a fronimo or midi file of the music I will make an arrangement for you and your daughter. dt At 01:34 PM 7/14/2008, you wrote: Greetings, My 12 year old daughter has recently been looking

[LUTE] Re: videos

2008-07-12 Thread David Tayler
Since my last survey, youtube has upped the ante by offering not only bigger uploads, but also the ability to switch between high quality and low quality. Obviously this is a reaction to two things: sites like vimeo, that offer 720p pseudo high def, and the prevalence of the h264 codec, which

[LUTE] Re: El Gordo

2008-07-10 Thread David Tayler
It's a great pic. let's be thankful that there are so many great pics. But what I like is the Thumb Middle It is so present, so real. dt t 09:27 PM 7/9/2008, you wrote: There are so many things to appreciate and wonder about in this painting. The hands look so natural you can see the chord

[LUTE] Re: El Gordo

2008-07-09 Thread David Tayler
The string representation is a curious feature of the work, since so many of the details are meticulously recorded. However, it is unikely that they are single and one end and double at the other :) There look to be thin traces of the pair in one of the right hand details, but not the other. An

[LUTE] El Gordo

2008-07-07 Thread David Tayler
This is kind of a cool lute. Renaissance, circa Capirola, very, very large. Table position The thumb is in the very popular thumb middle, neither particularly inside the hand nor stretched out. Left hand in cruiser position. Box for spare strings? http://www.nga.gov/cgi-bin/tdimage?object=90793

[LUTE] Re: Improvising and Composing?

2008-07-07 Thread David Tayler
Playing Lumsden from keyboard notation definitely a must. This one book will give you a wide range of experieince applicable to lute solos, lute songs, consort music and especially continuo. The transcription system was the most progressive of its time. It is a very convenient benchmark. If you

[LUTE] Re: Bizarre info request, bordering on advice request

2008-07-06 Thread David Tayler
This is a very difficult situation that you describe. I think the question to ask yourself, is where exactly you a are going in your studies. Because ultimately, the instrument you describe is going to hold you back. Another point to consider is why the instrument is in its current state? What

[LUTE] Re: Tuner for theorbo

2008-07-05 Thread David Tayler
A lot of people use the Korg OT120, myself included, and it is a good buy for a lot of reasons. You can tune in an orchestral setup, with a lot of ambient noise. It does have some drawbacks, specifically the lack of ability to program a temperament. For example, I use Neidhardt, Ordinaire,

[LUTE] Re: Tastini are great!

2008-07-05 Thread David Tayler
Welcome to the FlyFoot club! dt At 03:43 PM 7/5/2008, you wrote: Hi folks, I just glued (actually loktited) a tastino under two courses of my soprano lute in d. And now I have wonderful G# and C# in the 5th and 4th courses, 1st fret. And that is great. Tastini strongly recommended! The

[LUTE] Re: Lutes in Eastern Europe

2008-07-01 Thread David Tayler
Beautiful. dt At 05:13 PM 6/30/2008, you wrote: I have added about a dozen of fascinating iconographic titbits at http://torban.org/mamai/index.html and the succeeding pages. Enjoy, RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: PDFprinting problems.

2008-07-01 Thread David Tayler
What software? Are you using press output in the settings? Backwards compatibility turned on? Compression turned off for fonts and graphics? dt At 12:07 PM 6/30/2008, you wrote: Dear All, I downloaded some PDF files of The Weiss London Ms which I wanted to get printed professionally. I checked

[LUTE] Lute DSP

2008-07-01 Thread David Tayler
Playing from tablature can easily be done without knowledge of the polyphony, ornamentation and voice leading. It can ALSO be done while seeing all these things--this is Lute DSP Thus, one can easily apply the correct ornaments to tab, as well as transpose up and down a tone or a fourth, and

[LUTE] Re: Archlute strings

2008-07-01 Thread David Tayler
However, tiny hydrogen powered taxis existed in mini black holes for centuries. dt On Jul 1, 2008, at 12:38 AM, LGS-Europe wrote: I don't fly much, but when I do I prefer an extra seat for the lute. This instrument in its case is just under 140cm, the other one over 155cm. Size matters in

[LUTE] Re: Decisions, decisions

2008-06-30 Thread David Tayler
Consider a dual purpose instrument. An archlute, or a 9 course or 10 course can be dual setup to play in French tuning, either with double strings (archlute) or single strings (9 or 10 course) as well as the original tuning. You can also setup the archlute to play in single and double, old

[LUTE] bach's piano

2008-06-29 Thread David Tayler
I'm surprised he did not mention that among his many talents, Bach was a piano salesman. salesperson. dt When Donald Grout visited my college when I was a student, someone asked him about playing Bach on a piano. His answer: if it is worth doing it is worth doing badly. That still cracks me

[LUTE] Re: very low pitch

2008-06-29 Thread David Tayler
My French ensemble performs often at 370, this includes specially made keyboards, winds and strings, plus large lutes at 370, which can be considered french pitch along with super low pitch of ~340. Good evidence for both pitches from historical keyboard instruments, but other pitches must have

[LUTE] Why is the neck on the archlute so long?

2008-06-28 Thread David Tayler
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[LUTE] Re: French Style

2008-06-28 Thread David Tayler
On the simplest level, this is about consonance and dissonce. Most people play French baroque music as consonance, but the extraordinary length of the ornaments, when played properly, make it dissonance. It is the most dissonant music in early music; which makes it, to my ear, both unusual and

[LUTE] Re: Why is the neck on the archlute so long?

2008-06-28 Thread David Tayler
In order to reach the food at the tops of the trees. dt At 05:46 PM 6/28/2008, you wrote: Why is the neck on the archlute so long? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Why is the neck on the archlute so long?

2008-06-28 Thread David Tayler
in decapitation of the said archlute by the ceiling fan. Yes, I speak from personal experience. Sigh. Edward C. Yong [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 29 Jun 2008, at 8:46 AM, David Tayler wrote: Why is the neck on the archlute so long? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu

[LUTE] Re: French Style

2008-06-20 Thread David Tayler
bass can have the exact same harmony in France as an Italian one, but the sauce is different. dt At 01:08 PM 6/19/2008, you wrote: This is all truffle sauce, but it tells you nothing about the wild boar underneath. RT - Original Message - From: David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute

[LUTE] Re: French Style

2008-06-20 Thread David Tayler
ones didn't learn French style from books, afterall. Chris - prepared for time travel. --- David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a terrific question for which there is no easy answer. Here's a few basic starting points: 1. It is different at different times--don't conflate

[LUTE] Re: Gypsies Lilt - video

2008-06-20 Thread David Tayler
Nice video, cool ornaments; beautiful sound. dt At 08:03 AM 6/20/2008, you wrote: Two pieces from the Rowallan ms, the weird Gypsies Lilt, and the beautiful I Long For Thy Virginitie. Looks like I need my eighth fret tightened... http://www.vimeo.com/1204178 Rob -- To get on or off this list

[LUTE] Re: New piece of the month for June

2008-06-20 Thread David Tayler
Gee what an annoying chord that is. I have seen people play all four strings, that is two courses, with the tip of one finger. My finger is not wide enough. I accept this as more or less unchangeable, unless I go to a really narrow spacing. Thanks for the lovely edition. dt Stephen Arndt

[LUTE] Re: Meantone

2008-06-19 Thread David Tayler
Both keyboard instruments with split keys and fretted instruments with extra frets (either full extra frets or tastini, as both existed) are able to play the enharmonic shifts. All is possible; not all is desirable. I think what one sees in the adjustments to instruments is that full

[LUTE] Fly Foot Meantone

2008-06-19 Thread David Tayler
I have been using David van Ooijen's system for some time now and it works perfectly. I have bent and moved the frets to get the best measured result, not the best theoretical result. This was interesting because it shows that any scheme to place the frets MUST be altered to the instrument and

[LUTE] Re: French Style

2008-06-19 Thread David Tayler
That's a terrific question for which there is no easy answer. Here's a few basic starting points: 1. It is different at different times--don't conflate the different genres 2. Inegal is the most misused and most misunderstood. Read the original sources, don't rely on secondary sources. At a

[LUTE] Re: French Style

2008-06-19 Thread David Tayler
: This is all truffle sauce, but it tells you nothing about the wild boar underneath. RT - Original Message - From: David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 3:59 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: French Style That's a terrific question

[LUTE] Re: French Style

2008-06-19 Thread David Tayler
Telemann uses sequential development all the time http://www.vimeo.com/706605 French music uses sequential development as well, though it is used differently than Vivaldi. dt At 01:20 PM 6/19/2008, you wrote: Telemann's eschewing of sequential development was alone sufficient for him to

[LUTE] Re: French Style

2008-06-19 Thread David Tayler
- Original Message - From: David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 4:38 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: French Style All the things on this list are uniquely French; they give the music the character. For French music, the truffle

[LUTE] Re: Meantone

2008-06-18 Thread David Tayler
Jean-Marie is of course absolutely correct that there are contemporaneous accounts advocating various distinctions and even clashes of the differing temperaments for keyboard and fretted instruments, and there were at various times accounts that these clashes were good or necessary. However,

[LUTE] Re: Meantone

2008-06-18 Thread David Tayler
I don't think the evidence is thin: I think the evidence is substantial; however I consider the weight of the evidence to show that the practice was uncommon--but important, worth debating. In other words the thinness is in the number of people who practiced the technique, rather than in the

[LUTE] Re: Silk strings / address

2008-06-17 Thread David Tayler
Very interested in trying them, has some years ago and they were great dt At 11:37 PM 6/16/2008, you wrote: Dear collected wisdom I'm looking for the address (mail or electronic) of Peter Rea and Margret Caley. They live somewhere in Australia and made experiments with silk strings with great

[LUTE] Re: New website www.luteduo.com !!!!!

2008-06-17 Thread David Tayler
I enjoyed the Gaultier very much, thanks. dt At 02:55 PM 6/15/2008, you wrote: Dear Friends, welcome to our new website www.luteduo.com It is still being developed. Any feedback welcome:) After many collegues asked, we started to offer some duo Bach scores there. Warmest wishes, Anna

[LUTE] Re: Silk strings / address

2008-06-17 Thread David Tayler
yet tried them on early European instruments. BTW, he feels the original cats of catgut strings were caterpillars. Best, Chris. David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/17/2008 3:16 AM Very interested in trying them, has some years ago and they were great dt At 11:37 PM 6/16/2008, you wrote: Dear

[LUTE] Re: New Baroque lute/Meantone

2008-06-17 Thread David Tayler
I may be crazy, but my baroque mandolin works very well in meantone, owing to the open E string and open B string. On my theorbo and Mandora, a few well placed tastini and everything is good to go, but the six course mandlin tuning works without the tastini, and sounds very nice on theorbo or

[LUTE] Re: John Donne

2008-06-16 Thread David Tayler
The casual reader might mistake Sleep stay awhile for Donne, though the opening is similar, it is not Donne. So so, leave off has one or two very minor differences from Donne's text, such as changing ask'd to ask. as well as the usual orthograhic confusion of soules and selves. dt At 03:45

[LUTE] Re: Palestrina's lute -- Composition

2008-06-10 Thread David Tayler
This is a nice window into the composer's world http://tinyurl.com/57 I love all q's in the tiny url. It also hints that figured bass may have arisen from a counterpoint tutor. Why not? dt At 02:37 AM 6/10/2008, you wrote: On Jun 9, 2008, at 6:46 AM, Stewart McCoy wrote: Many thanks

[LUTE] Re: Musical Crimes: Forgery, Deceit, and Socio-Hermeneutics

2008-06-08 Thread David Tayler
There were the wax tablets, but it seems likely that there were multiple systems for compositions. Sketches on paper show, obviously, that paper was used for sketches. These systems could have been used in combination Surely the keyboard was used by many composers Dowland most likely composed for

[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-06-07 Thread David Tayler
On Jun 6, 2008, at 7:45 AM, David Tayler wrote: I take the quill and iron it with a heavy iron, then shape it. I prefer a slightly rounded tip. It's the only thing I iron, really. You can also cut a piece of delrin and glue it to the feather, in that case, you need not iron it. It is sort

[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-06-05 Thread David Tayler
I take the quill and iron it with a heavy iron, then shape it. I prefer a slightly rounded tip. It's the only thing I iron, really. You can also cut a piece of delrin and glue it to the feather, in that case, you need not iron it. It is sort of permanent press. There are a number of other

[LUTE] Re: theorbo sizes; theorbo definitions

2008-06-02 Thread David Tayler
Exactly-- the distinction is a modern one, the historical one semi-interchangeable based on time region. The only way to define an archlute as distinct from a theorbo is to ignore the myriad historical examples where the terms are used interchangeably. This distinction is similar to calling

[LUTE] Re: Forlorn Hope

2008-06-02 Thread David Tayler
Forlorn hope is possibly a musical pun drawn from the text of lacrimae, where the the two cadences under the words forlorn and hope in the song pivot a half step apart, and settle a half step apart, as in mi fa morire of lasso vita mia. dt At 03:10 AM 6/2/2008, you wrote: This has been

[LUTE] Re: what are underlights ...

2008-06-01 Thread David Tayler
Although there are scatterred references to the numbering of the layers in the Elizabethan period, I think the phrase seventh heaven derives more from the Islamic and Cabalist traditions. dt At 05:45 PM 5/31/2008, you wrote: On May 31, 2008, at 6:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At least in

[LUTE] Re: strumming near the bridge

2008-06-01 Thread David Tayler
Strumming: If we think of it; they thought of it. Whether they liked it or not is hard to say. Perhaps the answer lies in the distribution of table tennis rackets (or bats). For example, people debate whether seven courses were used early on. And the confusing thing, is that the pros must have

[LUTE] Theorbo sizes; theorbo definitions

2008-06-01 Thread David Tayler
I think the idea, pioneered by harpsichordists, of scaling may well be true, although there are still some uncertainties in my mind, particularly in regards to notches of various types, but also in regard to paired instruments, or trios and quartets of instruments. Assuming that tone apart held

[LUTE] Re: what are underlights ...

2008-05-30 Thread David Tayler
I think that in a specific way, it refers to the many types of diagrams showing the celestial order, many of which are reprinted in the untuning of the Sky by John Hollander, and obtusely referenced in Spitzer's classic text, Classical and Christian Ideas of World Harmony. In a general sense,

[LUTE] Re: Lute songs

2008-05-30 Thread David Tayler
Lutes have dynamics to my ear. When I practice, I play the same passage a different volume levels. Lutes can also say the words, but this is difficult to describe, though easy to demonstrate. Normally I start by memorizing the poem, then reciting using rhetoric, then I practice making the

[LUTE] Re: Vimeo Lutes and Early Guitars Video Channel

2008-05-30 Thread David Tayler
Thanks Rob dt At 04:45 AM 5/30/2008, you wrote: With more people appreciating the audio and visual quality of the Vimeo site over YouTube, I've created a Vimeo Channel - one page bringing together all the Vimeo videos with lutes and early guitars. I urge all those of us who have videos to upload

[LUTE] Re: Lute songs

2008-05-28 Thread David Tayler
Most people play on the consonant, not the vowel--play on the vowel. Play polyphony, not chords. Learn the words and make the lute match the rhetoric. dt R -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: ATTAINGNANT Heartz

2008-04-18 Thread David Tayler
All of Dan's musicological work is of the very highest quality, including transcriptions concordances. In addition to being an accomplished musician on piano, he was playing the renaissance lute in the 60s based on an actual museum copy. The books often contain information--including

[LUTE] Re: Grove

2008-04-15 Thread David Tayler
That's hilarious. It is easier to use than the one I pay for. How funny. dt At 01:34 AM 4/15/2008, you wrote: Dear everyone, I just stumbled upon this URL: http://phonoarchive.org/grove/ -- Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Essays on Scottish 17th-century music

2008-04-15 Thread David Tayler
Congatulations, Rob-- I look forward to reading it. dt At 09:08 AM 4/15/2008, you wrote: It is also available in the UK here: http://www.earlygaelicharp.info/emporium/books/porter.htm It also has a chapter on the Panmure collection. Rob -- To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Pavana

2008-04-13 Thread David Tayler
A good rule of thumb is to phrase to the long note and hook the short note to the long note (no gaps) --for renaissance, of course-- then adjust by ear for a cross accent if you wish. mss sources tend to suggest a prototypical coulee/pointee hierarchy as well, especially in divisions. I favor

[LUTE] Re: Re dark red Loaded Strings

2008-04-12 Thread David Tayler
I always like to joke that in 40 years I have never played with a baroque cello, because of the instrument, bow, bridge, bass bar, size and of course, the strings. Last week I played with Elizabeth Reed, all gut strings--four of them, no metal crimping, winding, etc, with the proper

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books

2008-04-08 Thread David Tayler
differences are mentioned in the Severinus introduction, and more detail (e.g. including differences in spelling of the titles) is given in the Fretwork edition. Best wishes, Stewart McCoy. -Original Message- From: David Tayler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books

2008-04-06 Thread David Tayler
in the Severinus introduction, and more detail (e.g. including differences in spelling of the titles) is given in the Fretwork edition. Best wishes, Stewart McCoy. -Original Message- From: David Tayler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2008 06:39 To: lute

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books

2008-04-05 Thread David Tayler
(e.g. including differences in spelling of the titles) is given in the Fretwork edition. Best wishes, Stewart McCoy. -Original Message- From: David Tayler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2008 06:39 To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books I think

[LUTE] Re: rocha fuso

2008-04-04 Thread David Tayler
Possible a basse dance variant of Roche? odd that it is an allemand as well as a galliard dt FusoAt 07:28 PM 4/3/2008, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Denys Stephens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Bernd Haegemann' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'LuteNet list' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent:

[LUTE] Re: 7c at 64 cms

2008-04-03 Thread David Tayler
I continue to hold the unpopular view that the eight course may slightly slow musical development: If you have any interest in continuo, the non linear bass is a hurdle, and if you wish to play 10c, archlute or theorbo, the course memorization for the bass courses is slowed a bit: you have to

[LUTE] Re: 7c at 64cms

2008-04-02 Thread David Tayler
They have a very good resale value :) dt At 07:47 PM 4/1/2008, you wrote: Do you guys like Larry Brown's lutes? im looking at his Venere G Lute 8c. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Rank Amateur Recording # 5

2008-04-02 Thread David Tayler
44.1 and 48 are not twice the frequency of human hearing, that distinction is reserved for 88.2 and 96. The Fostex is one of the best flash recorders, it had better preamps and converters than the competition, its only drawback is that headphone amp is a little cheap, but that in no way

[LUTE] Re: 7c at 64cms

2008-04-02 Thread David Tayler
I don't recommend 8 courses 9 courses would be a good choice for Dowland 7 and 9 would cover almost all of the pieces you mention, and is better for the very early Dowland pieces, plus the chromatic pieces. Isn't there a Star Trek character named 7 of 9? Surely it is a sign. I think the 9 course

[LUTE] Re: Rank Amateur Recording # 5

2008-04-02 Thread David Tayler
... Grant On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 9:08 AM, David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 44.1 and 48 are not twice the frequency of human hearing, that distinction is reserved for 88.2 and 96. -- ~~~ Grant Green - www.contrabass.com Heckelphone, Sarrusophone

[LUTE] Re: 7c at 64cms

2008-04-02 Thread David Tayler
Why play a single manual harpsichord, when two is more? It is a good question, is there more essential lutiness in a niner? I think so. but that is subjective. Historically, you can argue pretty persuasively for 9, but there sure were ten course instruments as well. Also, is a good 10c better

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books

2008-04-02 Thread David Tayler
I think there are only two of LOST Lachrimae or Seven Tears, each different. dt At 02:37 PM 4/2/2008, you wrote: Here is the OMI list. They have all the books of ayres, plus other things. http://www.omifacsimiles.com/cats/lute.pdf I may have mentioned this. The third boook was offered for

[LUTE] Re: Recercare

2008-04-01 Thread David Tayler
The same video in higher resolution http://youtube.com/watch?v=lEyk0jOIagwfmt=18 Nice playing! dt To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: 7c at 64cms

2008-04-01 Thread David Tayler
64 is a bit long in the tooth for 440. You can get the gut up to pitch barely but it is a stretch. But if you want it for Dowland, F is very good both singer and solo wise. The tessatura of the songs is such that a significant number phonate better at 392, although some of the nice ones lie low,

[LUTE] Better youtube II

2008-03-31 Thread David Tayler
I've been experimenting with the youtube setting for people who want to share lute videos. Basically, the upload limit is now way larger, so you can upload a higher resolution file--bigger file-- and get somewhat better results. Also, if you go to your account settings for youtube, and go to the

[LUTE] Re: Fingering question/Pastyme with Good Companye

2008-03-30 Thread David Tayler
Well, my example was really to show how tricky attribution is. But you can dig a bit further. In this case, you can go by the Grove, but the Grove is not really an authoritative source in that it is a secondary reference. Yes, we all read it, but it is a bit like Trader Joe's as well. The real

[LUTE] Re: Fingering question

2008-03-29 Thread David Tayler
It is a favorite pastime to say pieces are really not by X, and it is easy because, when you come right down to it, in the renaissance there is no real way to prove anybody wrote anything. People argue whether Shakespeare existed. You can't go exclusively on attribution, because they are often

[LUTE] Re: Fingering question/Pastyme with Good Companye

2008-03-29 Thread David Tayler
their own. Best, Benjamin On 29/03/2008, David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is a favorite pastime to say pieces are really not by X, and it is easy because, when you come right down to it, in the renaissance there is no real way to prove anybody wrote anything. People

[LUTE] Re: Fingering question

2008-03-29 Thread David Tayler
Chavez Symphony Orchestra; Fernando Lozano, conductor. Click on the CML link here http://mysite.verizon.net/arthurjness/ === - Original Message - From: David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 3

[LUTE] Re: Fingering question

2008-03-29 Thread David Tayler
Geez that was completely garbled. Obviously I need to adjust my meds, what I meant was I would never mean to imply that Arthur Ness' knowledge of anything is less than truly stellar in all respects. And also, the Francesco book is my favorite lute book. dt To get on or off this list see

[LUTE] theorbo core wood

2008-03-29 Thread David Tayler
I've been using redwood for the core and long neck: light, strong, humidity resistant, and no termites. At 03:21 PM 3/29/2008, you wrote: That's a fine instrument, indeed. What are the timbers used? Kingwood for the bowl and beech for the neck? Or does the neck has a pine core? The neck

[LUTE] Re: WG: Charles Mouton lute music EL 082326

2008-03-28 Thread David Tayler
Re Magnatune Magnatune gives half of the sale, net, to the artists. This is a good thing! Plus, they invite you to give away a few free copies, which may seem strange, but it also a good idea. dt At 07:52 AM 3/28/2008, you wrote: I have never had a single problem with Magnatune or Emusic or

[LUTE] Re: Nina bass line

2008-03-27 Thread David Tayler
them to the list! Peter On 24/03/2008, David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the advantage to putting this info online, not just for musicologists with Case X access (the x files), is for the average musician/voice student who has ben fed dreadful versions of pieces-- pieces

[LUTE] Re: Buying Francesco da Milano - Ness

2008-03-26 Thread David Tayler
That sounds like a great and important resource, I would be happy to host them either on my site or the new Lutes West site. You can send them to me using yousendit if you like, it is a free ftp service Also, if you upload to yousendit, the files will be available for anyone on the list for

[LUTE] Re: Luigi Rossi on the tubes

2008-03-25 Thread David Tayler
It is beautiful, but the double bass sounds very modern to me, especially the heavy octaves. But the 16 foot on the harp is exquisite. I would like a little more lute in the mix :) dt At 04:58 PM 3/24/2008, you wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45Z3D4c8KWI Beautiful piece from a reliably

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