[LUTE] Re: Bach’s Lute Suites: This Myth is Busted

2012-05-01 Thread Jarosław Lipski
So do I. In most music written between 16-18 century one can find some kind of schemata that was popularly used, but Bach was incredibly creative in using it. Besides, as someone told me long time ago: there are no bad compositions, there are only poor performances :) As for BWV 997 and 998 you

[LUTE] Re: Bach’s Lute Suites: This Myth is Busted

2012-05-01 Thread Braig, Eugene
Exactly indeed. Eugene From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] on behalf of Jarosław Lipski [jaroslawlip...@wp.pl] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 5:37 PM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Re: Bach’s Lute Suites: This Myth

[LUTE] Re: Bach’s Lute Suites: This Myth is Busted

2012-04-30 Thread Jarosław Lipski
@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 4:50 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Re: Re: Bach’s Lute Suites: This Myth is Busted but in this case a spade is not a spade :) JL Wiadomość napisana przez Roman Turovsky w dniu 29 kwi 2012, o godz. 22:32: Yes, but - sometimes we have to give up

[LUTE] Re: Bach’s Lute Suites: This Myth is Busted

2012-04-30 Thread David van Ooijen
On 30 April 2012 15:19, Roman Turovsky r.turov...@verizon.net wrote: JSB never played trumpet either, but he wrote for it competently. There is sufficient grounds to assume he would have approached lute with equal consideration he afforded any other instrument he wrote for, given his diligence

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE] Re: Bach’s Lute Suites: This Myth is Busted

2012-04-30 Thread Christopher Wilke
Dear all, I find it odd that Bach's lute music is so contentious. By and large, it seems that classical guitarists feel more of a need to prove them to be works intended for lute than us luters. Is it really worth the effort? (I'm going to risk getting my head bitten

[LUTE] Re: Bach’s Lute Suites: This Myth is Busted

2012-04-30 Thread Andreas Schroth
I love this discussion and I hope, the big master can hear it! I fear he could say:Do You really suppose I think of Your wretched lutes when the spirit gets hold of me? Replace lute by violin, than this is what half a century later Beethoven said to the violinist Schuppanzigh when

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE] Re: Bach’s Lute Suites: This Myth is Busted

2012-04-29 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Exactly. BTW, a recent (2009) must-read on the topic is David Ledbetters Unaccompanied Bach (Yale University Press), which includes studies on the violin, cello and lute/Lautenwerk works. Regards Stephan Am 26.04.2012, 21:06 Uhr, schrieb Jarosław Lipski jaroslawlip...@wp.pl:

[LUTE] RE: [LUTE] Re: Bach’s Lute Suites: This Myth is Busted

2012-04-29 Thread Braig, Eugene
-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] on behalf of Jarosław Lipski [jaroslawlip...@wp.pl] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 3:06 PM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bach’s Lute Suites: This Myth is Busted Discussion is always a good thing, the problem begins when someone makes very definite

[LUTE] Re: Bach’s Lute Suites: This Myth is Busted

2012-04-26 Thread Jarosław Lipski
Discussion is always a good thing, the problem begins when someone makes very definite statements like- the evidence would be that Bach did not write any music specifically intended for solo lute - or -You know what I am going to say next–perhaps you should sit down I understand that it was

[LUTE] Re: Bach’s Lute Suites: This Myth is Busted

2012-04-25 Thread Braig, Eugene
I don't know how relevant the concept of urtext is in this case. Urtext or not, there is still no evidence to tie Bach's alleged lute suites to Bach in his hand and plenty of evidence that these are arrangements or speculation at best. There's nothing wrong with playing that music on the lute