On Jan 16, 2010, at 9:45 AM, Tom Draughon wrote:
Lounge Lute .. now THERE's an interesting concept ...
It's been done by more than one of us. Terry Schumacher's Lutius
Maximus act would have to top the list. I've sat in (well, stood
in) a few times with a friend's rock band, in what can be
On Jan 17, 2010, at 12:51 AM, Thomas Schall wrote:
In my personal opinion everybody showing his playing on youtube,
vimeo or whatever platform one might use has my respect - just for
doing it.
Well, this is the way I feel about all music and just about everything
else. In
Ply him with scotch.
RT
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From: Ed Durbrow edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
To: Thomas Schall lauten...@lautenist.de; LuteNet list
lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 7:16 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary
On Jan 17, 2010, at 12
On Jan 17, 2010, at 2:21 AM, Daniel Winheld wrote:
raise the cultural tone of his new venue by sticking a lute player in
bottle-flinging range.
I hope that is a metaphor. I thought that only happened in Blues
Brothers movies.
I stopped videoing myself after becoming my own worst critic.
.) If you do keep the comments,
you have the option of deleting any you find offensive.
Chris
--- On Fri, 1/15/10, Ed Durbrow [3]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp wrote:
From: Ed Durbrow [4]edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
Subject: [LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary
To: LuteNet list [5]l
raise the cultural tone of his new venue by sticking a lute player in
bottle-flinging range.
I hope that is a metaphor. I thought that only happened in Blues
Brothers movies.
Oh no. Such places exist, fortunately it didn't reach that point in
my case. Verbally delivered constructive criticism
Many years ago, one of our famous colleagues
gave a concert at Carnegie Recital Hall in New York, and one of our
other learned colleagues* accosted him afterwards in the green room,
launching immediately into a detailed critique of everything he did
wrong, that could be improved,
On Jan 17, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Daniel Winheld wrote:
but the performer shushed him
in mid-sentence and said NOT NOW, damn it! Talk to me tomorrow, if
you must!
He probably had an early morning flight out.
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Many years ago, one of our famous colleagues
gave a concert at Carnegie Recital Hall in New York, and one of our
other learned colleagues* accosted him afterwards in the green room,
launching immediately into a detailed critique of everything he did
wrong, that could be
Holy cow!
dt
At 11:18 AM 1/15/2010, you wrote:
Ed, Right after I came out with my Hurel album, I received a
private email from someone who regularly contributes to this
list. This was one of the first comments I got about the
project. In the rudest, most brusk manner, this person told
I wonder what is the reason why many feel they would be capable to
criticise on whatever is published.
I really appreciate even harsh critics on my playing if it helps to
develop (although sometimes it's hard to accept if someone criticises
very basic features of my playing. But if there are
Ah yes, deconstructive criticism, delivered with the kindest of
intentions- If this sincere critic is being slanderously
misunderstood; he should respond, set the record straight, and hugs
all around. It's a small world, after all- and it's that
tunnel-vision vehemence which seems to gather
, 2010 10:51 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary
I wonder what is the reason why many feel they would be capable to
criticise on whatever is published.
I really appreciate even harsh critics on my playing if it helps to
develop (although sometimes it's hard to accept
Lounge Lute .. now THERE's an interesting concept ...
Ah yes, deconstructive criticism, delivered with the kindest of
intentions- If this sincere critic is being slanderously
misunderstood; he should respond, set the record straight, and hugs
all around. It's a small world, after all- and
Danny's ning is the best forum for sharing kind,
constructive remarks like those Miles shared with you.
Best wishes,
Ron Donna
www.mignarda.com
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:03:27 +0900
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
From: edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
Subject: [LUTE] Re: constructive
...@sea.plala.or.jp wrote:
From: Ed Durbrow edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
Subject: [LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary
To: LuteNet list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 6:03 AM
On Jan 12, 2010, at
9:08 AM, David Tayler wrote:
I appreciate it when people point out
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 12:58 AM, chriswi...@yahoo.com wrote:
The word schrecklich is rarely helpful in constructive criticism.
And I liked his opening statement: What has this to do with
Renaissance lute playing?
I just blocked him from my LuteLessons channel. Let him start his own,
or post
: constructive critical commentary
I think one could offer constructive commentary that is a bit more
pointed that was of a statistical nature that might be helpful.
For example, one can say that out of say 500 videos
50 percent of the lutes do not have the string spacing optimized for
tone and playability
: [LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary
I think one could offer constructive commentary that is a bit more
pointed that was of a statistical nature that might be helpful.
For example, one can say that out of say 500 videos
50 percent of the lutes do not have the string spacing optimized
, Franz Mechsner franz.mechs...@northumbria.ac.uk wrote:
From: Franz Mechsner franz.mechs...@northumbria.ac.uk
Subject: [LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary
To: David Tayler vidan...@sbcglobal.net, lute-cs.dartmouth.edu
lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 1:55 AM
I
chriswi...@yahoo.com schrieb:
Franz, I like your style. On this list we tend to spend all day repeatedly
talking until we're blue in the face about trivial matters such as gut vs.
nylgut, whether one is allowed to perform 8 course lute music on a 10 course,
which temperament is HIPest,
-cs.dartmouth.edu' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 2:09 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary
What exactly do you mean by optimized for
tone and playability?
Mark
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
Poirier
Subject: [LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary
Thank you ever so much, Franz ! We, lefties, had to wait all these years
But how do you do it? Do you also rewrite the tablatures so that they run
from right to
left?
I always watch your youtube clips in a little mirror because
' vidan...@sbcglobal.net; 'lute-cs.dartmouth.edu'
lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 2:09 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary
What exactly do you mean by optimized for
tone and playability?
Mark
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: lute
@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 2:09 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary
What exactly do you mean by optimized for
tone and playability?
Mark
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im
Subject: [LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary
To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 5:04 PM
Ah, now I see. 62Konrad! It must be a
47 year old German lurker on
this list. I believe some of you have met him/her in
cyberspace, as
his name crops
There seem to be several subject headers around dealing with what
this, I'll stick to this one.
I've had my fair share of lessons and I teach. Lessons or commentary
from fellow students at a conservatory are not for people with a
fragile ego, but all comments are fair. People know what they talk
I am a hundred percent with you David (and Valéry), carried away or not !
Jean-Marie
=
== En réponse au message du 11-01-2010, 10:33:41 ==
There seem to be several subject headers around dealing with what
this, I'll stick to this one.
I've had my fair share
Sauvage Valéry wrote:
So I'm not sure Youtube is the place for constructive commentary, but more
for sharing music we love
I've put up some youtube videos. Is it folly, vanity, lack of
self-awareness? Sometimes it's like a goal to aim for - to choose a
piece, practice it, video it, and
...@orange.fr
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 10:42 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary
Sauvage Valéry wrote:
So I'm not sure Youtube is the place for constructive commentary, but
more
for sharing music we love
I've put up some youtube videos. Is it folly
Vries, helping me a
lot... ;-)
Val
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de David van Ooijen
Envoyé : lundi 11 janvier 2010 10:32
À : lute
Objet : [LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary
There seem to be several subject headers
: Lute
Objet : [LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary
I am a hundred percent with you David (and Valéry), carried away or not !
Jean-Marie
=
== En réponse au message du 11-01-2010, 10:33:41 ==
There seem to be several subject headers around dealing
I have a very unconstructive commentary to David and Jean-Marie, you
both are holding your lute on the wrong side !
Val ;-
maybe these two geniuses found out how to hold the instrument properly
- and the rest of us holds it to the wrong side! :-)
F
maybe these two geniuses found out how to hold the instrument properly
- and the rest of us holds it to the wrong side! :-)
Yes, that’s probably right, because compared with them my own play sounds quite
poorly.
Jörg
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Stuart wrote:
I could see the use of something like a ning site dedicated only to
constructive criticism of performances lute/allied plucked intruments -
where you have to sign up to comment and preferably you sign up on the
understanding that you submit something. And each person would
This has been an instructive thread. Recently I've posted a few short
pieces on youtube (edward18121) but haven't mentioned this to anyone
but a few friends. Initially, I thought my motivation for doing this
would be to get some constructive critical commentary, especially since
I
Valery,
My take on YouTube is that you take your chances when you post a video.
Its an open forum and anyone can make suggestions whether they are constructive
or not. (Yes, there are some jerks on there. Hopefully the folks on this list
will be more respectful and helpful.) For
Thank you ever so much, Franz ! We, lefties, had to wait all these years until
someone - you - understood at last and had the guts to acknowledge this fact
:-)))
Best wishes,
Jean-Marie
=
== En réponse au message du 11-01-2010, 14:13:59 ==
I have
Thank you ever so much, Franz ! We, lefties, had to wait all these years
But how do you do it? Do you also rewrite the tablatures so that they run from right to
left?
I always watch your youtube clips in a little mirror because otherwise it would
confuse me..
Best wishes
B
To get on
: constructive critical commentary
Sauvage Valéry wrote:
So I'm not sure Youtube is the place for constructive commentary,
but more
for sharing music we love
I've put up some youtube videos. Is it folly, vanity, lack of
self-awareness? Sometimes it's like a goal to aim for - to choose a
piece
Of course, Bernd, what else did you imagine ?
Jean-Marie ;-)
=
== En réponse au message du 11-01-2010, 17:42:17 ==
Thank you ever so much, Franz ! We, lefties, had to wait all these years
But how do you do it? Do you also rewrite the tablatures so that
I suppose that if the recording is out there those who view it have a right
to critique it. However; I think this should be shaded by whether or not
the critic has had the guts to do the same and if they did would they feel
the same way. To those of you who do put out performances on YouTube
I appreciate it when people point out mistakes, but it has to be handled well.
For example, there are some videos where people are playing something
twice as fast or twice as slow, double or half timing.
Now it is obvious in this case that the player is not aware of it,
and one *might* send a
I think one could offer constructive commentary that is a bit more
pointed that was of a statistical nature that might be helpful.
For example, one can say that out of say 500 videos
50 percent of the lutes do not have the string spacing optimized for
tone and playability
But even this is sort
12.01.2010 01:08
An: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary
I appreciate it when people point out mistakes, but it has to be
handled well.
For example, there are some videos where people are playing something
twice as fast or twice as slow, double
12.01.2010 01:08
An: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary
I appreciate it when people point out mistakes, but it has to be
handled well.
For example, there are some videos where people are playing something
twice as fast or twice as slow, double
: constructive critical commentary
I think one could offer constructive commentary that is a bit more
pointed that was of a statistical nature that might be helpful.
For example, one can say that out of say 500 videos
50 percent of the lutes do not have the string spacing optimized for
tone and playability
Valery, I like your music, it's wonderful to have it... often I am
desperately looking for a recording of a certain piece, and find it
recorded by you... so this in itself is a good and helpful thing. And
congratulations to the theorbo, I am looking forward to the music... In
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