Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-08 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 05.07.2012 06:48, schrieb Liviu Andronic: What about spaces in path names of files? I was quite surprised that LyX couldn't handle that on Windows, That is not true. LyX can handle them of course. Spaces in paths even exists in Windows' default installation folders. If you find a case

Conclusion - New Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-08 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 28.06.2012 11:23, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: The reason why I don't accept this installer now is that: - the installer installs LyX in a folder called: LyX 2.0.4 instead of LyX20 as the current official installer does. I really don't see a single reason to change this behaviour; We

RE: Conclusion - New Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-08 Thread Scott Kostyshak
From: lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org [lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org] on behalf of Uwe Stöhr [uwesto...@web.de] Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 11:55 AM I have now provided the new installer version LyX-204-3 here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/ The download link on the sourceforge front page

Re: Conclusion - New Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-08 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 08.07.2012 18:25, schrieb Scott Kostyshak: I have now provided the new installer version LyX-204-3 here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/ The download link on the sourceforge front page hasn't been changed to 204-3 yet. This usually takes a while until it is available at

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-08 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de wrote: What about spaces in path names of files? I was quite surprised that LyX couldn't handle that on Windows, That is not true. LyX can handle them of course. Spaces in paths even exists in Windows' default installation folders. If

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-08 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 05.07.2012 06:48, schrieb Liviu Andronic: What about spaces in path names of files? I was quite surprised that LyX couldn't handle that on Windows, That is not true. LyX can handle them of course. Spaces in paths even exists in Windows' default installation folders. If you find a case

Conclusion - New Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-08 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 28.06.2012 11:23, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: The reason why I don't accept this installer now is that: - the installer installs LyX in a folder called: LyX 2.0.4 instead of LyX20 as the current official installer does. I really don't see a single reason to change this behaviour; We

RE: Conclusion - New Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-08 Thread Scott Kostyshak
From: lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org [lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org] on behalf of Uwe Stöhr [uwesto...@web.de] Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 11:55 AM >I have now provided the new installer version "LyX-204-3" here: >http://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/ The download link on the sourceforge front

Re: Conclusion - New Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-08 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 08.07.2012 18:25, schrieb Scott Kostyshak: I have now provided the new installer version "LyX-204-3" here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/lyxwininstaller/ The download link on the sourceforge front page hasn't been changed to 204-3 yet. This usually takes a while until it is available

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-08 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: >> What about spaces in path names of files? I was quite surprised that >> LyX couldn't handle that on Windows, > > That is not true. LyX can handle them of course. Spaces in paths even exists > in Windows' default installation

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-04 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 04.07.2012 00:28, schrieb Richard Heck: You Windows people should decide what makes sense. As I have shown in my screenshot the other programs use also the scheme Name major.sub, so LyX 2.0 would be the same. I'm allergic to spaces in pathnames myself. They are not a problem. I was

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-04 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de wrote: Am 04.07.2012 00:28, schrieb Richard Heck: I'm allergic to spaces in pathnames myself. They are not a problem. I was using this for years in the old installer and also the other progrmas use spaces, see my screenshot. So

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-04 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 04.07.2012 00:28, schrieb Richard Heck: You Windows people should decide what makes sense. As I have shown in my screenshot the other programs use also the scheme "Name major.sub", so "LyX 2.0" would be the same. I'm allergic to spaces in pathnames myself. They are not a problem. I

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-04 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Am 04.07.2012 00:28, schrieb Richard Heck: >> I'm allergic to spaces in pathnames myself. > > They are not a problem. I was using this for years in the old installer and > also the other progrmas use spaces, see my screenshot.

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-03 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 03/07/2012 01:57, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : So how about if we propose LyX20, and then if someone wants to install various things side-by-side, can't they do that by choosing some other name? Yes, but if he is not patient, he just clicks Next and thus installs in the proposed/default LyX20 folder

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-03 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 02/07/2012 23:15, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : There is no other software I know where I do this. Besides, there is a difference between to be able to install side-by-side and to install side-by-side by default. Attached is a screen shot of my Start menu. As I have about 120 programs I have to group

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-03 Thread Richard Heck
On 07/03/2012 05:17 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Le 03/07/2012 01:57, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : So how about if we propose LyX20, and then if someone wants to install various things side-by-side, can't they do that by choosing some other name? Yes, but if he is not patient, he just clicks Next

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-03 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 03.07.2012 11:20, schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: Attached is a screen shot of my Start menu. As I have about 120 programs I have to group them not to loose the overview. And yes, other programs also do this: Python, CMake, LibreOffice, Qt... Not all programs but some. I guess that is a matter

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-03 Thread Andrew Parsloe
On 4/07/2012 6:28 a.m., Richard Heck wrote: On 07/03/2012 05:17 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Le 03/07/2012 01:57, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : So how about if we propose LyX20, and then if someone wants to install variou things side-by-side, can't they do that by choosing some other name? Yes, but

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-03 Thread Richard Heck
On 07/03/2012 02:49 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Am 03.07.2012 11:20, schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: Attached is a screen shot of my Start menu. As I have about 120 programs I have to group them not to loose the overview. And yes, other programs also do this: Python, CMake, LibreOffice, Qt... Not all

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-03 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 03/07/2012 01:57, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : So how about if we propose LyX20, and then if someone wants to install various things side-by-side, can't they do that by choosing some other name? Yes, but if he is not patient, he just clicks Next and thus installs in the proposed/default "LyX20"

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-03 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 02/07/2012 23:15, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : There is no other software I know where I do this. Besides, there is a difference between "to be able to install side-by-side" and "to install side-by-side by default". Attached is a screen shot of my Start menu. As I have about 120 programs I have to

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-03 Thread Richard Heck
On 07/03/2012 05:17 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Le 03/07/2012 01:57, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : So how about if we propose LyX20, and then if someone wants to install various things side-by-side, can't they do that by choosing some other name? Yes, but if he is not patient, he just clicks Next

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-03 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 03.07.2012 11:20, schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: Attached is a screen shot of my Start menu. As I have about 120 programs I have to group them not to loose the overview. And yes, other programs also do this: Python, CMake, LibreOffice, Qt... Not all programs but some. I guess that is a matter

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-03 Thread Andrew Parsloe
On 4/07/2012 6:28 a.m., Richard Heck wrote: On 07/03/2012 05:17 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Le 03/07/2012 01:57, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : So how about if we propose LyX20, and then if someone wants to install variou things side-by-side, can't they do that by choosing some other name? Yes, but

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-03 Thread Richard Heck
On 07/03/2012 02:49 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Am 03.07.2012 11:20, schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: Attached is a screen shot of my Start menu. As I have about 120 programs I have to group them not to loose the overview. And yes, other programs also do this: Python, CMake, LibreOffice, Qt... Not all

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-02 Thread Andrew Parsloe
I'm by now an experienced Windows (Vista) user of LyX. Doubtless I'm adding fuel to the flames rather than oil on troubled waters, but ... On 2/07/2012 12:33 p.m., Uwe Stöhr wrote: Am 28.06.2012 11:23, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: But then you don't get a full functional LyX. We cannot

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-02 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 02/07/2012 08:30, Andrew Parsloe a écrit : There is also no reason not to change the name of the folder. I already also explained that we can easily change the name to somewhat else but need the info about the bugfix release. If is perfectly valid to install LyX 2.0.4 and leave 2.0.3 as

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-02 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
Even if we add an option Surpass the LaTeX package installation what do you expect a new user who has never worked with LaTeX nor know what LaTeX is will do? Surpass? A nice combination of bypass and suppress. Yeah.. cool huh. The reason why I don't accept this installer now is that:

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-02 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 02.07.2012 10:23, schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: I find the LyX 2.0.4 naming useful. For example, when LyX moved from 2.0.1 to 2.0.2 it brought problems on my system: sticky scrolling, and memory leakage which caused a number of crashes, and I needed to revert to 2.0.1. I like to be able to

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-02 Thread Richard Heck
On 07/02/2012 04:42 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Am 02.07.2012 10:23, schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: I find the LyX 2.0.4 naming useful. For example, when LyX moved from 2.0.1 to 2.0.2 it brought problems on my system: sticky scrolling, and memory leakage which caused a number of crashes, and I

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-02 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 02.07.2012 08:30, schrieb Andrew Parsloe: I've had no problems uninstalling afterwards. Just to check, I've uninstalled 2.0.3 *after* installing 2.0.4. No problems (the only thing to remember is *not* to uninstall preferences). I've then reinstalled 2.0.3 beside 2.0.4, again without

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4 - correction

2012-07-02 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 02.07.2012 22:42, schrieb Uwe Stöhr: The point is that you can reinstall 2.0.1 if there is a problem and it will still work with your local files and preferences. Unfortunately not on Windows. The reason is that we deliver stripped-down versions of ImageMagick, Ghostscript and Python

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-02 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 02.07.2012 22:47, schrieb Richard Heck: If everything's just being installed to LyX20 or whatever, isn't this issue resolved? Yes, but then you cannot have two LyX versions of the same major version side by side. So having LyX 2.0.3 _and_ 2.0.4 is then not possible. Why should LyX

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-02 Thread Richard Heck
On 07/02/2012 04:56 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Am 02.07.2012 22:47, schrieb Richard Heck: Isn't it possible for users to choose to install to a different location if they wish to do so? I'd have thought the issue here was what we do by default. The installer proposed LyX 2.0.4 as name but you can

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-02 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 02.07.2012 20:51, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: I find the LyX 2.0.4 naming useful. For example, when LyX moved from 2.0.1 to 2.0.2 it brought problems on my system: sticky scrolling, and memory leakage which caused a number of crashes, and I needed to revert to 2.0.1. I like to be able

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-02 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 02.07.2012 22:59, schrieb Richard Heck: The installer proposed LyX 2.0.4 as name but you can of course chose any other name of your choice. But the average user justs clicks several time OK in an installer and then gets the default/proposed folder. So how about if we propose LyX20, and

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-02 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 28.06.2012 14:08, schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: Now I read a bit more the miktexdoc. I suspect that using directly the PackageInstaller interface http://docs.miktex.org/2.8/sdk/interfaceIPackageInstaller.html would help being much faster than the clunky configure.py-based solution. It

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-02 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 02.07.2012 11:00, schrieb Liviu Andronic: Random thought: When using the standalone installer, not the bundle one, does the same issue exist? Will LyX instruct MiKTeX to install packages, if missing? Yes, because we require new packages from time to time or replace a package support by

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-02 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 02.07.2012 23:15, schrieb Uwe Stöhr: Well, last time I tried, the lyx file format was no longer connected to LyX after uninstalling an old LyX version after installing the new one. I cannot reproduce this anymore. This was a bug but seems to be fixed. However, before you blame the

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-02 Thread Andrew Parsloe
I'm by now an experienced Windows (Vista) user of LyX. Doubtless I'm adding fuel to the flames rather than oil on troubled waters, but ... On 2/07/2012 12:33 p.m., Uwe Stöhr wrote: Am 28.06.2012 11:23, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: But then you don't get a full functional LyX. We cannot

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-02 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 02/07/2012 08:30, Andrew Parsloe a écrit : There is also no reason not to change the name of the folder. I already also explained that we can easily change the name to somewhat else but need the info about the bugfix release. If is perfectly valid to install LyX 2.0.4 and leave 2.0.3 as

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-02 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
Even if we add an option "Surpass the LaTeX package installation" what do you expect a new user who has never worked with LaTeX nor know what LaTeX is will do? "Surpass"? A nice combination of "bypass" and "suppress". Yeah.. cool huh. The reason why I don't accept this installer now

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-02 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 02.07.2012 10:23, schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: I find the "LyX 2.0.4" naming useful. For example, when LyX moved from 2.0.1 to 2.0.2 it brought problems on my system: "sticky" scrolling, and memory leakage which caused a number of crashes, and I needed to revert to 2.0.1. I like to be able

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-02 Thread Richard Heck
On 07/02/2012 04:42 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Am 02.07.2012 10:23, schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: I find the "LyX 2.0.4" naming useful. For example, when LyX moved from 2.0.1 to 2.0.2 it brought problems on my system: "sticky" scrolling, and memory leakage which caused a number of crashes, and I

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-02 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 02.07.2012 08:30, schrieb Andrew Parsloe: I've had no problems uninstalling afterwards. Just to check, I've uninstalled 2.0.3 *after* installing 2.0.4. No problems (the only thing to remember is *not* to uninstall preferences). I've then reinstalled 2.0.3 beside 2.0.4, again without

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4 - correction

2012-07-02 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 02.07.2012 22:42, schrieb Uwe Stöhr: The point is that you can reinstall 2.0.1 if there is a problem and it will still work with your local files and preferences. Unfortunately not on Windows. The reason is that we deliver stripped-down versions of ImageMagick, Ghostscript and Python

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-02 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 02.07.2012 22:47, schrieb Richard Heck: If everything's just being installed to LyX20 or whatever, isn't this issue resolved? Yes, but then you cannot have two LyX versions of the same major version side by side. So having LyX 2.0.3 _and_ 2.0.4 is then not possible. Why should LyX

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-02 Thread Richard Heck
On 07/02/2012 04:56 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Am 02.07.2012 22:47, schrieb Richard Heck: Isn't it possible for users to choose to install to a different location if they wish to do so? I'd have thought the issue here was what we do by default. The installer proposed "LyX 2.0.4" as name but you

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-02 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 02.07.2012 20:51, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: I find the "LyX 2.0.4" naming useful. For example, when LyX moved from 2.0.1 to 2.0.2 it brought problems on my system: "sticky" scrolling, and memory leakage which caused a number of crashes, and I needed to revert to 2.0.1. I like to be

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-02 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 02.07.2012 22:59, schrieb Richard Heck: The installer proposed "LyX 2.0.4" as name but you can of course chose any other name of your choice. But the average user justs clicks several time OK in an installer and then gets the default/proposed folder. So how about if we propose LyX20, and

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-02 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 28.06.2012 14:08, schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: Now I read a bit more the miktexdoc. I suspect that using directly the PackageInstaller interface http://docs.miktex.org/2.8/sdk/interfaceIPackageInstaller.html would help being much faster than the clunky configure.py-based solution. It

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-02 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 02.07.2012 11:00, schrieb Liviu Andronic: Random thought: When using the standalone installer, not the bundle one, does the same issue exist? Will LyX instruct MiKTeX to install packages, if missing? Yes, because we require new packages from time to time or replace a package support by

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-02 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 02.07.2012 23:15, schrieb Uwe Stöhr: Well, last time I tried, the lyx file format was no longer connected to LyX after uninstalling an old LyX version after installing the new one. I cannot reproduce this anymore. This was a bug but seems to be fixed. However, before you blame the

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-01 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 28.06.2012 00:20, schrieb Liviu Andronic: made about 50 times a decision. The installer is the first thing a new user sees and he cannot know anything at this state. I concur... If such users need to choose (or actually choose) something other than 'Install packages on the fly', LyX is

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-01 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 28.06.2012 11:04, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: If such users need to choose (or actually choose) something other than 'Install packages on the fly', LyX is effectively broken for them. I don't get this sentence. I guess he means that then they don't have all packages needed by LyX.

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-01 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 28.06.2012 11:23, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: If I remember your only remaining complain was that I set MiKTeX to install missing packages silently. I several times explained in detail why this is necessary. I accept that you are an expert in many fields but the average user is not. We

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-01 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 28.06.2012 12:30, schrieb Liviu Andronic: Here's my proposal for a compromise: - Have the installer default to 'Install on the fly', making it by default tailored to inexperienced users - Have an Advanced tab where this can be changed, while each option is clearly explained, and stern and

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-01 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 28.06.2012 00:20, schrieb Liviu Andronic: made about 50 times a decision. The installer is the first thing a new user sees and he cannot know anything at this state. I concur... If such users need to choose (or actually choose) something other than 'Install packages on the fly', LyX is

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-01 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 28.06.2012 11:04, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: If such users need to choose (or actually choose) something other than 'Install packages on the fly', LyX is effectively broken for them. I don't get this sentence. I guess he means that then they don't have all packages needed by LyX.

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-01 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 28.06.2012 11:23, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: If I remember your only remaining complain was that I set MiKTeX to install missing packages silently. I several times explained in detail why this is necessary. I accept that you are an expert in many fields but the average user is not. We

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-07-01 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 28.06.2012 12:30, schrieb Liviu Andronic: Here's my proposal for a compromise: - Have the installer default to 'Install on the fly', making it by default tailored to inexperienced users - Have an Advanced tab where this can be changed, while each option is clearly explained, and stern and

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-06-28 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
Op 28-6-2012 0:20, Liviu Andronic schreef: I concur. Even when I manage to convince people that LyX may be interesting and they indeed want to install it by themselves (not knowing anything LaTeX related), I still prefer to insist strongly that I perform the installation myself. If such users

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-06-28 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
Op 27-6-2012 23:51, Uwe Stöhr schreef: Am 27.06.2012 10:21, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: Op 27-6-2012 2:56, Uwe Stöhr schreef: I now finished the new Windows installer. It is the merge of my old one and Joost's. It still doesn't comply to my first demand, so I still won't accept it. I

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-06-28 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Vincent van Ravesteijn v...@lyx.org wrote: Op 28-6-2012 0:20, Liviu Andronic schreef: I concur. Even when I manage to convince people that LyX may be interesting and they indeed want to install it by themselves (not knowing anything LaTeX related), I still

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-06-28 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 28/06/2012 12:30, Liviu Andronic a écrit : Correct me if I'm wrong, we all agree that the 3 possible installation procedures have their own advantages and disadvantages: - 'Install on the fly' results in a complete LyX installation where all works. It is appropriate for new and inexperienced

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-06-28 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 28/06/2012 13:29, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit : Le 28/06/2012 12:30, Liviu Andronic a écrit : Correct me if I'm wrong, we all agree that the 3 possible installation procedures have their own advantages and disadvantages: - 'Install on the fly' results in a complete LyX installation where

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-06-28 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
Op 28-6-2012 0:20, Liviu Andronic schreef: I concur. Even when I manage to convince people that LyX may be interesting and they indeed want to install it by themselves (not knowing anything LaTeX related), I still prefer to insist strongly that I perform the installation myself. If such users

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-06-28 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
Op 27-6-2012 23:51, Uwe Stöhr schreef: Am 27.06.2012 10:21, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: Op 27-6-2012 2:56, Uwe Stöhr schreef: I now finished the new Windows installer. It is the merge of my old one and Joost's. It still doesn't comply to my first demand, so I still won't accept it. I

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-06-28 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: > Op 28-6-2012 0:20, Liviu Andronic schreef: >> I concur. Even when I manage to convince people that LyX may be >> interesting and they indeed want to install it by themselves (not >> knowing anything LaTeX related), I

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-06-28 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 28/06/2012 12:30, Liviu Andronic a écrit : Correct me if I'm wrong, we all agree that the 3 possible installation procedures have their own advantages and disadvantages: - 'Install on the fly' results in a complete LyX installation where all works. It is appropriate for new and inexperienced

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-06-28 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 28/06/2012 13:29, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit : Le 28/06/2012 12:30, Liviu Andronic a écrit : Correct me if I'm wrong, we all agree that the 3 possible installation procedures have their own advantages and disadvantages: - 'Install on the fly' results in a complete LyX installation where

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-06-27 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
Op 27-6-2012 2:56, Uwe Stöhr schreef: I now finished the new Windows installer. It is the merge of my old one and Joost's. It still doesn't comply to my first demand, so I still won't accept it. I don't understand why I have to say this over and over again. I already have released a test

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-06-27 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 27.06.2012 10:21, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: Op 27-6-2012 2:56, Uwe Stöhr schreef: I now finished the new Windows installer. It is the merge of my old one and Joost's. It still doesn't comply to my first demand, so I still won't accept it. I don't understand why I have to say this

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-06-27 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:51 PM, Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de wrote: If I remember your only remaining complain was that I set MiKTeX to install missing packages silently. I several times explained in detail why this is necessary. I accept that you are an expert in many fields but the average

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-06-27 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
Op 27-6-2012 2:56, Uwe Stöhr schreef: I now finished the new Windows installer. It is the merge of my old one and Joost's. It still doesn't comply to my first demand, so I still won't accept it. I don't understand why I have to say this over and over again. I already have released a test

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-06-27 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 27.06.2012 10:21, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: Op 27-6-2012 2:56, Uwe Stöhr schreef: I now finished the new Windows installer. It is the merge of my old one and Joost's. It still doesn't comply to my first demand, so I still won't accept it. I don't understand why I have to say this

Re: Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-06-27 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:51 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > If I remember your only remaining complain was that I set MiKTeX to install > missing packages silently. I several times explained in detail why this is > necessary. I accept that you are an expert in many fields but the

Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-06-26 Thread Uwe Stöhr
I now finished the new Windows installer. It is the merge of my old one and Joost's. I already have released a test version some weeks ago to be able to iron out some remaining issues. The last step was to enable the support for installing LyX without admin privileges. This is now also possible

Windows installer for LyX 2.0.4

2012-06-26 Thread Uwe Stöhr
I now finished the new Windows installer. It is the merge of my old one and Joost's. I already have released a test version some weeks ago to be able to iron out some remaining issues. The last step was to enable the support for installing LyX without admin privileges. This is now also possible