Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Good points, Yihui. I think you are right that on Github small contributers would be more likely to stick around, improve their skills, and possibly become more major contributors. At some point, I think a transition would be wise in order to take advantage of new tools that make things easier. I

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Hi Scott, I agree with everything you said.. If it were five years ago, it would be very likely that I'd volunteer to help with the transition if the LyX development team want. Unfortunately I have got more open source projects to work on than I can really afford now. That said, things can be a

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Thanks for the link, Yihui. It is an interesting read. First I want to say that I really don't know much about Git or our current system, so I don't really trust myself on these matters. But that said, I'll give my opinion. I think if everything were already on Github, it would be better. But I

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Bumping a thread five years later... and just FYI, Python has moved to Github: https://github.com/python/cpython The story behind the move: https://snarky.ca/the-history-behind-the-decision-to-move-python-to-github/ I'm not sure if the LyX team knows more about Github or has more interest now,

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 01:23, Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de wrote: Am 03.03.2012 14:32, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: Many thanks for the quick reply! You'll get a message: Your public key has been saved in . Yes, but the file is not stored in the given folder. However, 2 files were

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 18:08, Yihui Xie x...@yihui.name wrote: This is expected to me: programmers tend to do everything by themselves. I cannot promise all the conversions, but GitHub supports importing from an svn repo with one click, so if you want to move there, I can certainly do it.

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Oh, yes, absolutely. Thanks again for your hard work! Regards, Yihui -- Yihui Xie xieyi...@gmail.com Phone: 515-294-2465 Web: http://yihui.name Department of Statistics, Iowa State University 2215 Snedecor Hall, Ames, IA On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Lars Gullik Bjønnes lar...@gullik.org

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 01:23, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Am 03.03.2012 14:32, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: > > Many thanks for the quick reply! > > >> You'll get a message: "Your public key has been saved in ." > > > Yes, but the file is not stored in the given folder. However, 2

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 18:08, Yihui Xie wrote: > This is expected to me: programmers tend to do everything by > themselves. I cannot promise all the conversions, but GitHub supports > importing from an svn repo with one click, so if you want to move > there, I can certainly do

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Oh, yes, absolutely. Thanks again for your hard work! Regards, Yihui -- Yihui Xie Phone: 515-294-2465 Web: http://yihui.name Department of Statistics, Iowa State University 2215 Snedecor Hall, Ames, IA On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Lars Gullik Bjønnes

Re: Re: Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Am Samstag, 3. März 2012 um 10:27:36, schrieb Kornel Benko kor...@lyx.org Attached as requested Kornel Sorry, this time better ...ssh-dss

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

In short, this is approximately true for me: GitHub = GIT + Trac + Wiki + Web and all are based on GIT. Anyway, this is just my 2 cents when I saw the transition from SVN to GIT, and of course you are free to invest time and efforts in setting up your own server. Will _you_ step up to do all

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 04:25, Yihui Xie x...@yihui.name wrote: [...] Personally I believe it is very inefficient to email patches In what way inefficient? git send-email HEAD~3 to send the small patchset for commenting somewhere is not exactly hard. and it is so inconvenient to discuss code

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Yihui Xie wrote: the code line by line with the one who submit this patch -- comments can be made in-between the code lines; if you are not satisfactory with the patch, you can require one to revise the code and resubmit; this process can go on and on until you are satisfied and accept the

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Am 02.03.2012 02:07, schrieb Lars Gullik Bjønnes: I am not going to setup anonymous cloning right now, but I want developers to send me their public ssh keys. I never used SSH until now, so could anybody please give me a short introduction what I need to do? thanks and regards Uwe

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Op 3-3-2012 14:17, Uwe Stöhr schreef: Am 02.03.2012 02:07, schrieb Lars Gullik Bjønnes: I am not going to setup anonymous cloning right now, but I want developers to send me their public ssh keys. I never used SSH until now, so could anybody please give me a short introduction what I need

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

I mean discussion in email is less efficient than directly in code, where you can point out why this line is not good, and how that line needs improvement, etc. Regards, Yihui -- Yihui Xie xieyi...@gmail.com Phone: 515-294-2465 Web: http://yihui.name Department of Statistics, Iowa State

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

This is expected to me: programmers tend to do everything by themselves. I cannot promise all the conversions, but GitHub supports importing from an svn repo with one click, so if you want to move there, I can certainly do it. For the rest of the jobs, they require more time, but I believe after

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Uwe, Since you work under Windows, I also recommend TortoiseGIT with msysgit, unless you like working with CLI heavily. Regards, Yihui -- Yihui Xie xieyi...@gmail.com Phone: 515-294-2465 Web: http://yihui.name Department of Statistics, Iowa State University 2215 Snedecor Hall, Ames, IA On

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Op 3-3-2012 18:00, Yihui Xie schreef: I mean discussion in email is less efficient than directly in code, where you can point out why this line is not good, and how that line needs improvement, etc. If you're interested, I'll share some discussion of the git developers themselves. The

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Yihui Xie wrote: I mean discussion in email is less efficient than directly in code, where you can point out why this line is not good, and how that line needs improvement, etc. You repeat this kind of argument which means either me or you do not follow. There is nothing easier than comment

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Fair enough. Decision time: GitHub is heaven for me, and sort of hell for you; it is a personal matter of taste, so I'm not going to continue this discussion. Sorry to bother all, and thank you all for the great work! I love LyX and GIT, both of which have significantly increased my productivity.

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Am 03.03.2012 14:32, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: Many thanks for the quick reply! You'll get a message: Your public key has been saved in . Yes, but the file is not stored in the given folder. However, 2 files were now created and I guess that I have to send Lars the one with the

Re: Re: Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Am Samstag, 3. März 2012 um 10:27:36, schrieb Kornel Benko > Attached as requested > > Kornel Sorry, this time better ...ssh-dss

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

> In short, this is approximately true for me: GitHub = GIT + Trac + > Wiki + Web and all are based on GIT. Anyway, this is just my 2 cents > when I saw the transition from SVN to GIT, and of course you are free > to invest time and efforts in setting up your own server. Will _you_ step up to do

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 04:25, Yihui Xie wrote: [...] > Personally I believe it is very inefficient to email patches In what way inefficient? git send-email HEAD~3 to send the small patchset for commenting somewhere is not exactly hard. > and it is > so inconvenient to discuss

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Yihui Xie wrote: > the code line by line with the one who submit this patch -- comments > can be made in-between the code lines; if you are not satisfactory > with the patch, you can require one to revise the code and resubmit; > this process can go on and on until you are satisfied and accept the

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Am 02.03.2012 02:07, schrieb Lars Gullik Bjønnes: I am not going to setup anonymous cloning right now, but I want developers to send me their public ssh keys. I never used SSH until now, so could anybody please give me a short introduction what I need to do? thanks and regards Uwe

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Op 3-3-2012 14:17, Uwe Stöhr schreef: Am 02.03.2012 02:07, schrieb Lars Gullik Bjønnes: I am not going to setup anonymous cloning right now, but I want developers to send me their public ssh keys. I never used SSH until now, so could anybody please give me a short introduction what I need

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

I mean discussion in email is less efficient than directly in code, where you can point out why this line is not good, and how that line needs improvement, etc. Regards, Yihui -- Yihui Xie Phone: 515-294-2465 Web: http://yihui.name Department of Statistics, Iowa State

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

This is expected to me: programmers tend to do everything by themselves. I cannot promise all the conversions, but GitHub supports importing from an svn repo with one click, so if you want to move there, I can certainly do it. For the rest of the jobs, they require more time, but I believe after

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Uwe, Since you work under Windows, I also recommend TortoiseGIT with msysgit, unless you like working with CLI heavily. Regards, Yihui -- Yihui Xie Phone: 515-294-2465 Web: http://yihui.name Department of Statistics, Iowa State University 2215 Snedecor Hall, Ames, IA On

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Op 3-3-2012 18:00, Yihui Xie schreef: I mean discussion in email is less efficient than directly in code, where you can point out why this line is not good, and how that line needs improvement, etc. If you're interested, I'll share some discussion of the git developers themselves. The

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Yihui Xie wrote: > I mean discussion in email is less efficient than directly in code, > where you can point out why this line is not good, and how that line > needs improvement, etc. You repeat this kind of argument which means either me or you do not follow. There is nothing easier than

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Fair enough. Decision time: GitHub is heaven for me, and sort of hell for you; it is a personal matter of taste, so I'm not going to continue this discussion. Sorry to bother all, and thank you all for the great work! I love LyX and GIT, both of which have significantly increased my productivity.

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Am 03.03.2012 14:32, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: Many thanks for the quick reply! You'll get a message: "Your public key has been saved in ." Yes, but the file is not stored in the given folder. However, 2 files were now created and I guess that I have to send Lars the one with the

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Op 2-3-2012 7:35, Yihui Xie schreef: I was actually wondering why not move to GitHub directly since everything is ready there and it saves a huge amount of server admin efforts... Maybe I missed some conversations earlier, but IMHO GitHub makes collaborations way way easier. In what sense

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Xu Wang xuwang...@gmail.com writes: | Excellent! How does this work for non-developers? For example, I would like | to be able to do something and then do a pull-request. I think at this | point I can only fix typos and maybe a small error, but my work would need | to be verified. As long as you

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Vincent van Ravesteijn v...@lyx.org writes: | Op 2-3-2012 7:35, Yihui Xie schreef: I was actually wondering why not move to GitHub directly since everything is ready there and it saves a huge amount of server admin efforts... Maybe I missed some conversations earlier, but IMHO GitHub makes

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Yihui Xie x...@yihui.name writes: | I was actually wondering why not move to GitHub directly since | everything is ready there and it saves a huge amount of server admin | efforts... Maybe I missed some conversations earlier, but IMHO GitHub | makes collaborations way way easier. - bug tracker,

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Well, I think I understand some of the advantages of GIT like easy branching. I do not even bother to compare it to SVN because GIT is so much better. I mean GitHub makes GIT even better; there are too many advantages and I just list a few of them here: 1. developers manage their own SSH keys on

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Op 2-3-2012 7:35, Yihui Xie schreef: I was actually wondering why not move to GitHub directly since everything is ready there and it saves a huge amount of server admin efforts... Maybe I missed some conversations earlier, but IMHO GitHub makes collaborations way way easier. In what sense

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Xu Wang writes: | Excellent! How does this work for non-developers? For example, I would like | to be able to do something and then do a pull-request. I think at this | point I can only fix typos and maybe a small error, but my work would need | to be verified. As long as

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Vincent van Ravesteijn writes: | Op 2-3-2012 7:35, Yihui Xie schreef: >> I was actually wondering why not move to GitHub directly since >> everything is ready there and it saves a huge amount of server admin >> efforts... Maybe I missed some conversations earlier, but IMHO GitHub

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Yihui Xie writes: | I was actually wondering why not move to GitHub directly since | everything is ready there and it saves a huge amount of server admin | efforts... Maybe I missed some conversations earlier, but IMHO GitHub | makes collaborations way way easier. - bug

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Well, I think I understand some of the advantages of GIT like easy branching. I do not even bother to compare it to SVN because GIT is so much better. I mean GitHub makes GIT even better; there are too many advantages and I just list a few of them here: 1. developers manage their own SSH keys on

git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

I have begun to setup and do the lyx conversion proper. Expect things to happen fairly quick now. However I do not want to do this _too_ fast. http://git.lyx.org/ I am not going to setup anonymous cloning right now, but I want developers to send me their public ssh keys. (If you do not already

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Excellent! How does this work for non-developers? For example, I would like to be able to do something and then do a pull-request. I think at this point I can only fix typos and maybe a small error, but my work would need to be verified. Thank you for this, Xu On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:07 PM,

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

I was actually wondering why not move to GitHub directly since everything is ready there and it saves a huge amount of server admin efforts... Maybe I missed some conversations earlier, but IMHO GitHub makes collaborations way way easier. Regards, Yihui -- Yihui Xie xieyi...@gmail.com Phone:

git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

I have begun to setup and do the lyx conversion proper. Expect things to happen fairly quick now. However I do not want to do this _too_ fast. http://git.lyx.org/ I am not going to setup anonymous cloning right now, but I want developers to send me their public ssh keys. (If you do not already

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

Excellent! How does this work for non-developers? For example, I would like to be able to do something and then do a pull-request. I think at this point I can only fix typos and maybe a small error, but my work would need to be verified. Thank you for this, Xu On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:07 PM,

Re: git.lyx.org - developers! your ssh public key please

I was actually wondering why not move to GitHub directly since everything is ready there and it saves a huge amount of server admin efforts... Maybe I missed some conversations earlier, but IMHO GitHub makes collaborations way way easier. Regards, Yihui -- Yihui Xie Phone: