On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 04:00:13AM -0800, Stephen Harris wrote:
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> From: "Helge Hafting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Bo Peng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: ; "LyX Devel"
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2
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From: "Helge Hafting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Bo Peng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: sixth release of LyXWinInstaller
The best fix is to have tex fixed.
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 08:48:09 +0100
Helge Hafting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bo Peng wrote:
>
> >>Guys, I'm amazed that this thread has gone on as long as it has. I'm going
> >>to pop my head in at the door one final time and will then leave you to
> >>play on your own again.
> >>
> >>
> >
>
Bo Peng wrote:
Guys, I'm amazed that this thread has gone on as long as it has. I'm going
to pop my head in at the door one final time and will then leave you to
play on your own again.
I am amazed as well, in that many people even do not consider this as
a bug. A bug report has been crea
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From: "Georg Baum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 2:41 AM
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Stephen Harris wrote:
SH: Apparently, we grasp reality differently because I perceive a snide
remark
I
Stephen Harris wrote:
> SH: Apparently, we grasp reality differently because I perceive a snide
> remark which exaggerated its factual basis, and skirted a true attribution
> of bugzilla responsibility in order to masquerade as an incredulous adult.
I am not sure if I understand that sentence cor
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From: "Georg Baum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:18 PM
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Angus wrote:
In order to remind Georg about this problem in the future, I'd suggest
that
you file a bug on
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From: "Bo Peng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ; "LyX Devel"
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 8:26 AM
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I would also like to leave this thread with some final remarks.
The root of this probl
Am Mittwoch, 11. Januar 2006 15:36 schrieb Angus Leeming:
> Guys, I'm amazed that this thread has gone on as long as it has. I'm
going
> to pop my head in at the door one final time and will then leave you to
> play on your own again.
I am amazed, too. The time you guys spent with discussing wou
> Guys, I'm amazed that this thread has gone on as long as it has. I'm going
> to pop my head in at the door one final time and will then leave you to
> play on your own again.
I am amazed as well, in that many people even do not consider this as
a bug. A bug report has been created
(http://bugzil
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Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 4:12 AM
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Martin Geisler wrote:
[...]
I guess that is where our differences lie -- you consider the
C:\localtexmf d
Micha feigin wrote:
> Either tex understands escape sequences (which includes escaping spaces)
> or it has a method of defining what a string is, including the spaces
> which is different on windows and linux, or it has different spaces for
> string delimiting and path spaces under linux.
Guys, I
Stephen Harris wrote:
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Stephen Harris wrote:
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Martin Geisler wrote:
[...]
I guess that is where our differences lie -- you consider the
C:\localtexmf directoy the only proper place for custom files, and
indeed it would be good if everybody would just place their things
there. But being able to have an entire document in one folder
(place
arris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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[...]
David Carlisle
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"I'm sorry but this isn't really a bug but a feature of the underlying
TeX system. Although LaTeX
"Stephen Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Stephen Harris wrote:
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> Supported Characters http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=324054
>
> "When you use UNIX, you can use any character in a file name. You
> can use special characters that are typically not valid by
> "escaping" the character (fo
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Stephen Harris wrote:
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Stephen Harris wrote:
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[...]
David Carlisle
Wed, 21 Nov 200
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[...]
David Carlisle
Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:03:33 -
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To:
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 8:59 AM
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On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 15:16:13 +0200
Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 22:37:50
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:57:31 +0100
Martin Geisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I checked this on windows and I don't get any problem with a bib
> > file that is in a path with spaces (implicitly where the lyx file is
> > in a file with spaces or expl
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 09:44:01 -0600
Bo Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If the bib file is in a local user directory (with spaces) and included by
> > the user browsing to it then it is very much a lyx bug.
>
> This is the case I reported, and I think lyx should do something about
> it. Actuall
Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I checked this on windows and I don't get any problem with a bib
> file that is in a path with spaces (implicitly where the lyx file is
> in a file with spaces or explicitly where it is also in a
> subdirectory with spaces).
I believe the problem is the
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> > To: "Stephen Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 7:49 PM
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> > My opinion is that if a file is allowed to 'browse in', it sho
> If the bib file is in a local user directory (with spaces) and included by
> the user browsing to it then it is very much a lyx bug.
This is the case I reported, and I think lyx should do something about
it. Actually, a label above the browse button like "File with spaces
in its path may not wor
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 22:37:50 -0800
"Stephen Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> From: "Bo Peng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Stephen Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc:
> Sent: Monday, Januar
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From: "Helge Hafting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Martin Geisler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:07 AM
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It is so much easier if these bugs are fixed in the p
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From: "Georg Baum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Cc:
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 11:50 PM
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Martin Geisler wrote:
So please don't dismiss this as a WONTFIX bug... lots of people wont
have a Li
"Stephen Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> SH: I am not so sure that you followed this thread. So I'm going to
> requote Bo Peng, his complaint and suggested solution which has
> introduced the "path with spaces" aspect of this discussion.
You're right, I have just subscribed to this list re
Helge Hafting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Martin Geisler wrote:
>
>>Do you really mean that Microsoft decided on a default install path
>>with spaces just to annoy all the future Unix-centric programs being
>>ported to Windows?
>
> That is hard to know - I guess they simply see this as a 'bonus'
Georg Baum writes:
> Martin Geisler wrote:
>
>> So please don't dismiss this as a WONTFIX bug... lots of people
>> wont have a Linux-savy boyfriend to help them out with these things
>> :-)
>
> Again: The problem is with bibtex, not with LyX.
I'm sorry, I didn't make that clear -- I know that thi
Martin Geisler wrote:
"Stephen Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
As it stands now, that decision [to make the default install path
"C:\Program Files"] was a marketing decision, because the choice
causes problem with porting programs to Windows which Microsoft
doesn't gather revenue from.
Martin Geisler wrote:
> So please don't dismiss this as a WONTFIX bug... lots of people wont
> have a Linux-savy boyfriend to help them out with these things :-)
Again: The problem is with bibtex, not with LyX. We can work around it in
LyX (and I'll do so probably sometimes), see
http://bugzilla.
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From: "Bo Peng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Stephen Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc:
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: sixth release of LyXWinInstaller
My opinion is that if a file is allowed to 'browse in
> SH: I'm going to summarize my understanding of his posts. < ignore 3
> words>
You are not summarizing, rather extending my posts. It has been clear that
1. Miktex is installed under a path without space, following the
Miktex recommendations.
2. Lyx is installed under c:\program files and it
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To: ; "Martin Geisler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 7:07 PM
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To:
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Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 12:35 PM
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"Stephen Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
If you download a .bst file from the interne
"Stephen Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> As it stands now, that decision [to make the default install path
> "C:\Program Files"] was a marketing decision, because the choice
> causes problem with porting programs to Windows which Microsoft
> doesn't gather revenue from. I'm sick of that ludi
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From: "Andre Poenitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Stephen Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Michael Gerz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Bo Peng"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ;
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 12:00 PM
Su
On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 02:24:58PM -0800, Stephen Harris wrote:
> Why doesn't English have the default of C:\Programs?
> Is it because C:\program files adheres to basic Windows guidelines?
> No, certainly not.
> Just because Word pioneered filenames with spaces doesn't
> mean that practice should b
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From: "Sven Schreiber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Stephen Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "LyX Users List"
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 4:51 AM
Subject: Re: [announce] sixth release of LyXWinInstaller
Stephen Harris
Helge Hafting schrieb:
>
> Failing that, here are a couple of workarounds:
>
> 1. Use the "subst" dos/windows command, which associates a new
> drive letter with a path. You can then access the new drive
> letter without said path - and avoid the spaces.
> Detailed docs:
> http://www.micr
Sven Schreiber wrote:
Stephen Harris schrieb:
The Miktex installation states that it is recommended to install
Miktex to a directory without spaces.
http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/systems/win32/miktex/setup/install.html#id421158
I think it is certainly the most efficient practi
Stephen Harris schrieb:
>
> The Miktex installation states that it is recommended to install
> Miktex to a directory without spaces.
> http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/systems/win32/miktex/setup/install.html#id421158
>
> I think it is certainly the most efficient practice for a new user
> to fo
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From: "Sven Schreiber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "LyX Users List"
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 2:06 AM
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[replying on the users list to a devel list message]
Angus Leeming
[replying on the users list to a devel list message]
Angus Leeming schrieb:
> Angus' reply is essentially similar to that of Herbert. .bst, .cls and .sty
> files are all essentially the same in this regard; they belong in a TeX
> tree. If you're not willing to create J:\tex\local (which can be ma
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From: "Bo Peng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Herbert Voss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: ;
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: [announce] sixth release of LyXWinInstaller
And personally bst files should always go into c
> And personally bst files should always go into c:\localtexmf\bibtex\bst\
Since the .bst file (downloaded from a Journal's website) is only
needed for a paper I am writing, it makes sense to put it along with
the paper. Also, it is troublesome, and sometimes not allowed, to put
it to the texmf di
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
Bo Peng asked:
It is confirmed that if the .bst file is in a path without space, the
bibliography will be generated correctly, even if lyx is installed
under c:\program files\lyx.
Yes, I can confirm this.
1. It is safe to install lyx to c:\program files,
Yes it is.
2.
Bo Peng asked:
It is confirmed that if the .bst file is in a path without space, the
bibliography will be generated correctly, even if lyx is installed
under c:\program files\lyx.
Yes, I can confirm this.
1. It is safe to install lyx to c:\program files,
Yes it is.
2. It is not safe to p
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To:
Cc:
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 4:41 PM
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Dear all,
It is confirmed that if the .bst file is in a path without space, the
bibliography will be gen
Dear all,
It is confirmed that if the .bst file is in a path without space, the
bibliography will be generated correctly, even if lyx is installed
under c:\program files\lyx. So,
1. It is safe to install lyx to c:\program files,
2. It is not safe to put .bst files in a path with spaces. .lyx file
Stephen Harris wrote:
>> Right. And since I install at C:\Program Files\LyX and the bloody thing
>> works for me, I'm going to put on my grumpy old man hat and say it's a
>> "user error" to try and use a .bst file in a path with spaces.
> And to think, just last night it was a party hat.
The mood
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To:
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Michael Gerz wrote:
Bo Peng wrote:
The mistake is making C:\Program files the default for
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To: "Bo Peng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Stephen Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ;
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 10:04 AM
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To:
Cc:
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 4:10 AM
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Stephen Harris wrote:
Bo
The Miktex installation doc recommends installing Miktex into paths
an
Michael Gerz wrote:
> Bo Peng wrote:
>
>>>The mistake is making C:\Program files the default for LyX and
>>>friends.
>>>
>>>
>>I totally agree. I think it is a good idea to install Lyx to c:\lyx by
>>default.
>>
>>
> No, the directory must be configurable. On my (German) machine, the
> appr
Bo Peng wrote:
The mistake is making C:\Program files the default for LyX and
friends.
I totally agree. I think it is a good idea to install Lyx to c:\lyx by default.
No, the directory must be configurable. On my (German) machine, the
appropriate directory is "C:\Programme". There is n
Angus Leeming wrote:
>
> Jean-Marc contacted the real TeX gurus on the tex-k mailing list to ask
> for some advice. You can find the full thread in the tex-k archives here:
> http://www.tug.org/pipermail/tex-k/2005-April/index.html#1287
>
A bit more background:
http://sarovar.org/tracker/index.
Angus Leeming wrote:
We jump through a lot of hoops to ensure that your BibTeX data base will
continue to work if it lives in a path with spaces. I don't see any reason
at all to add a heap of fragile code to cover the .bst file too.
In my view this one get's filed under WONTFIX.
To quote the
Bo Peng wrote:
>> _TeX_ cannot handle spaces. I suppose that you do not really
>> know the difference of TeX, LaTeX, pdfTeX, pdfLaTeX, bibTeX, MiKTeX
>
> I do not. My understanding is that miktex is another implementation of
> latex standard ( if there is such a standard). If miktex aims at
> win
Bo Peng wrote:
_TeX_ cannot handle spaces. I suppose that you do not really
know the difference of TeX, LaTeX, pdfTeX, pdfLaTeX, bibTeX, MiKTeX
I do not. My understanding is that miktex is another implementation of
latex standard ( if there is such a standard). If miktex aims at
latex is onl
> The mistake is making C:\Program files the default for LyX and
> friends.
I totally agree. I think it is a good idea to install Lyx to c:\lyx by default.
This will save us from some troubles, but not all. Most windows users
save their files under "...\My Documents" or "... and
Settings\Desktop"
> _TeX_ cannot handle spaces. I suppose that you do not really
> know the difference of TeX, LaTeX, pdfTeX, pdfLaTeX, bibTeX, MiKTeX
I do not. My understanding is that miktex is another implementation of
latex standard ( if there is such a standard). If miktex aims at
windows platform, I assume th
Stephen Harris wrote:
> Bo
>
> The Miktex installation doc recommends installing Miktex into paths
> and/or directories without spaces. LyX has a history of problems
> with paths having spaces some passed on from Miktex.
>
> http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/Windows/LyX136pre
> 13 July 2005
> Axel R
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From: "Bo Peng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Angus Leeming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: ;
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [announce] sixth release of LyXWinInstaller
> My best guess, and it's just a guess, is
> > My best guess, and it's just a guess, is that bibtex's being handed a
> > path with spaces and choking on them.
I am not quite sure why miktex/bibtex can not handle a path with
spaces, whereas miktex/latex can. Anyway, if this is a problem that
will be classified as WONTFIX, it would be better
Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> Bo Peng wrote:
>>>If you View->LaTeX info->BibTeX styles, can you see the .bst file?
>> No. The .bst file is under the same directory as the .lyx file. I use
>> 'browse' in the bib tex dialog to use it. Under linux, this is enough.
> I can reproduce the problem (Win XP, LyX
Bo Peng wrote:
If you View->LaTeX info->BibTeX styles, can you see the .bst file?
No. The .bst file is under the same directory as the .lyx file. I use
'browse' in the bib tex dialog to use it. Under linux, this is enough.
I can reproduce the problem (Win XP, LyX 1.3.7pre5) if the .bst file
> If you View->LaTeX info->BibTeX styles, can you see the .bst file?
No. The .bst file is under the same directory as the .lyx file. I use
'browse' in the bib tex dialog to use it. Under linux, this is enough.
Bo
Bo Peng wrote:
Dear list,
Under linux, I can put a customized .bst file with the lyx file and
use it in the 'bibtex bibliography" dialog. This does not work under
windows. Is it because bibtex can not find the .bst file?
Bo
I use a customized .bst file (Win XP, MiKTeX). It's in the local te
Dear list,
Under linux, I can put a customized .bst file with the lyx file and
use it in the 'bibtex bibliography" dialog. This does not work under
windows. Is it because bibtex can not find the .bst file?
Bo
Hi, Uwe,
I notice a problem. I have a customized layout file. If I put it under
c:\document and settings\username\Application Data\Lyx\layouts,
lyx->reconfigure can not find it. (Lyx can detect this layout if I put
it under the system layouts folder.) Can anyone confirm this bug?
Cheers,
Bo
> "Bo" == Bo Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> I just published the version 0.6 of the LyX installer for Windows.
Bo> Just tried the complete version of the installer on a fresh winXP
Bo> VM: installation goes fine and everything works as expected. Thank
Bo> you for the great work!
Bo> I th
Bo Peng wrote:
>> I just published the version 0.6 of the LyX installer for Windows.
>
> Just tried the complete version of the installer on a fresh winXP VM:
> installation goes fine and everything works as expected. Thank you for
> the great work!
>
> I think this installer is ready to go publ
> I just published the version 0.6 of the LyX installer for Windows.
Just tried the complete version of the installer on a fresh winXP VM:
installation goes fine and everything works as expected. Thank you for
the great work!
I think this installer is ready to go public or even become official.
W
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From: "Uwe Stöhr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "LyX-Users"
Cc: "LyX-Devel"
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:59 PM
Subject: [announce] sixth release of LyXWinInstaller
Hello LyXers,
I just published the version 0.6 of the LyX
Hello LyXers,
I just published the version 0.6 of the LyX installer for Windows.
Due to a bug of ftp.berlios.de it is only available from here:
http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=5117
This is the project homepage:
http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/LyXWinInstaller
Here's the
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