1D or linear input mode for math

[d . grelich]

Hello everyone,

I've just spent two hours or so looking for a solution for my problem  
on the internet, but I failed it seems. I even looked through the LyX  
ressource file to find a way to disable that feature by force, but  
this wasn't productive either.


I'd like to disable LyX' automatic typesetting mechanism that makes my  
\frac into two blue boxes with a fraction bar between them, that is, I  
want to write 'pure' LaTeX code in math mode.


Maple has an option for that, for example. You can let it typeset a  
fractions if you type / and exponents if you type ^, or you can  
disable that feature and it will display the plain code.


I find the 2d math mode slightly annoying, especially when writing  
fractions and exponents since one has to use the arrow keys rather  
often. I *could* use ERT, but I like the preview mechanism for  
formulas in LyX, and I don't have that for ERT.


I hope I described my problem well enough and that someone can give me a hint.

Thanks in advance,

  Denis Grelich

Re: 1D or linear input mode for math

[Guenter Milde]

On 2009-08-05, d.grel...@stud.uni-saarland.de wrote:
 Hello everyone,

 I'd like to disable LyX' automatic typesetting mechanism that makes my  
 \frac into two blue boxes with a fraction bar between them, that is, I  
 want to write 'pure' LaTeX code in math mode.

You can type your formula as text, mark it and convert to math with
e.g. Ctrl-m. 

For editing an existing formula, you might have success with copy and
paste (with the mouse) to re-convert to TeX code as text and then again
to math with Ctrl-m. This works also with copy from the source-view.

 I find the 2d math mode slightly annoying, especially when writing  
 fractions and exponents since one has to use the arrow keys rather  
 often. 

The spacebar helps to get out of the exponent, indices and the denominator.

What I find really annoying is that I cannot change the type of fraction
(nicefrac, frac, simple /, ...) but have to copy the content to a new
fraction.

 I *could* use ERT, but I like the preview mechanism for  
 formulas in LyX, and I don't have that for ERT.

Günter

Re: about word counter

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Marcelo Acuña wrote:
 It seemed to me to have read that lyx 1.6.4 would have the feature that
 word in notes would not be counted, but I read the roadmap of this version
 and future 2.0 version and I can't see it

Yes, LyX 1.6.4 introduces this feature. Look here (query for bug 2566):
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInBranch

Jürgen

Problems with indentation and linguistics module (covington)

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello,

I've got a problem with the example-numbering in the linguistics  
module:


I use the example-style to refer to OT-constraint definition  
(linguists may know what I'm talking about).

Basically it always looks like this:

(3.1) Constraint Name linebreak
  Constraint Definition

This works fine and the two words Constraint are perfectly aligned  
under each other, i.e. have the same indentation (obviously better  
than in this email ;-).


The problem occurs in a chapter (maybe I should note that I use KOMA- 
script book) where the counter grows above 9.

This looks roughly like this:

(3.10) Constraint Name linebreak
   Constraint Definition

So the indentation of the second line is to small. It seems that it is  
aligned in the same depth as if the counter consisted of only one  
number.


Can I correct this? How?

Thanks for replying.

Johannes

Re: Drag and Drop

[Helge Hafting]

Johannes Knaus wrote:
First of all, I simply didn't realize that mouse drag'n'drop did not 
work in Lyx and thought this could maybe a platform specific issue, not 
a general one.



On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 11:43 -0400, Michael Joyner:

Drag and drop text is one the most annoying things I have found with
word processors.
It is too easy to do it by accident, not notice, and output garbage
for people to read.



I can't imagine how one could mark some text with the mouse 
hold-and-click it and drag it around by accident.


Openoffice do this now and then. Firefox is very prone to this problem, 
but there it doesn't matter as you aren't actually editing the website.


This is what happens:

1. User selects something with the mouse (click+drag+release)
2. User notices that the selection is slightly wrong. Maybe there is
   a letter too much or too little selected.
3. User tries to re-do the selection. (click+drag). The selection
   is supposed to start in the _same_ position, so it is very easy
   to accidentally grab the wrongly selected text.
4. Seeing things go wrong, the user release the mouse button
   and the text lands somewhere. :-(

5. The smart user does an angry undo, the not so smart try editing
   the document into shape again, the ignorant don't notice what
   happened, and merely select the text to be copied and goes on with
   that.



I think the discussion on going on here is somewhat dogmatic. Many 
people use Ctrl+X and then Ctrl+V to shift textparts around. That's o.k. 
and that's what I do as I have no other chance in Lyx to do this.
My point is: Drag and drop is something many Mac Users (I am one) and 
Windows users may be very used to in everyday work. So implementing this 
feature would make Lyx a little easier to work with when you are new to 
Lyx.


If it can be done so that it isn't so accident prone - fine.


Those who don't like drag and drop are not forced to use it, it would be 
just another editing option (maybe to be activated or deactivated via 
GUI). Still, I don't see the problem in having this feature – if you 
want to use it, use it, if not, don't. I don't think this can create any 
trouble by accident.


See above. I do use the mouse for selections now and then, even if I use
ctrl+c and ctrl+v to do the copying. Of course, LyX normally uses a nice 
large font, so it is somewhat less vulnerable to mis-selection.


It certainly would be a problem, if implementing this feature really 
costs a lot of time. I simply don't know this as I'm not a programmer.



Mouse marking is already implemented. So is copy and cut.
So all it takes is to recognise that the user tries to drag the 
selection, and drop it somewhere. LyX could then:


1. Change the mouse cursor to a drag text cursor, when the drag
   starts.
2. Use the existing copy code that gets called upon ctrl+c.
3. Move the cursor as if the user had clicked the drop location
4. Use the existing paste code as if the user typed ctrl+v

A copy drag might be easy. A move drag may be trickier, as the 
window changes upon cut. The drop location then moves from where

the pointer is.

Perhaps the cut should be done at the beginning of the drag,
so that the drop location will be valid. On the other hand, that
makes aborting the drag harder instead.

Helge Hafting

Re: Drag and Drop

[Nikos Alexandris]

JFYI,

gedit (GNOME's default text editor) has the Alt+Arrow(s) option to move
selected line_s_ of text. I find it very convenient.

Nikos

Re: Lyx 1.6.3 Can I ditch the pointNclick list of open files below the toolbars???

[Helge Hafting]

Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:

I'm using lyx 1.6.3 on Sabayon Linux 4.2. Which is fairly impressive BTW.
I like most of the user interface. Well that is except that As a
keyboard-centric user with very poor mouse coordination I always resent
screen space taken up by point n' click specific tools such as most
toolbars. For example if alt+p[space] worked without that
scrollbox attached to the standard toolbar the .ui file would say

= Toolbars
= standard off,top
= extra off,top
= table off,bottom
= math off,bottom
= minibuffer off,bottom
= End

As it is the only one I leave on is standard. And that to keep the
viability of the  3-key,2-stroke keybinding alt+p[space]. Thus
I put up with wasting a whole line of screen space on mostly useless
stuff I would never ever click on.


[...]

BUT I would never ever wrestle with my mouse to get that (expletive
deleted) pointer on the name of the document displayed with an [x]
just under the toolbars... And that would be so, even if I wasn't just
as likely to accidentally click on one of the [x]s...

Is there any way to get them off my screen???



You can turn off all the toolbars if you like. I did not know that you
could loose keybindings that way, but define the keybindings in a custom
key binding file instead. That way, you can have the same keybindings
without any toolbars. (And you can define other keybindings you find
useful also.)

To get rid of the document tabs too, open all your files in
separate windows. (ALT+f w, or File-New Window)
Then, use your window manager to switch
between them. This is usually performed by alt+tab, although some
keyboard centric window managers might do it differently.

Helge Hafting

Re: Problems with indentation and linguistics module (covington)

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Johannes Knaus wrote:
 So the indentation of the second line is to small. It seems that it is  
 aligned in the same depth as if the counter consisted of only one  
 number.

 Can I correct this? How?

\renewenvironment{example}{%
\begin{examples}\settowidth{\labelwidth}{(0.00)}\item}
{\end{examples}}

Jürgen

Re: Eq numbering in ams article

[Neal Becker]

Paul A. Rubin wrote:

 Neal Becker wrote:
 In ams article, if I don't put a \section, equations are numbered as 0.1,
 0.2, etc.  What can I do about that?
 
 
 The layout file is adding that (as well as the same convention for
 numbering figures) to the preamble.  There's a somewhat unhelpful
 comment in the layout file to comment those lines out if you don't want
 them -- the catch being that you cannot comment them out in the LyX doc;
 you would have to export to LaTeX and comment them out (or delete them)
 there.
 
 For the nonce, about the best suggestion I have is to hack the
 amsart.layout file, remove either or both lines, and save it -- assuming
 you *never* want to number within sections when using AMS article.
 
 Personally, I think the correct approach would be to omit those line
 from the layout file and make an optional module for those who do want
 numbering within sections.  You might want to file a bug report on this.
 
 /Paul
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6123

Change display equation to ams align

[Neal Becker]

If I typed in an equation as display, and then decide I'd like to turn it to 
ams align (multiline), how can I do this without loosing everything I 
already typed?

Selecting the equation, then insert/math/ams align is exactly the way to 
destroy your work.

RE: Change display equation to ams align

[Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW]

If I typed in an equation as display, and the
decide I'd like to turn it to ams align (multiline),
how can I do this without loosing everything I already typed?

Selecting the equation, then insert/math/ams align is
exactly the way to destroy your work.

Don't select the equation then :).

If your cursor is in the equation, then Insert-Math-AMS Align converts
your equation type. Better is to use Edit-Math-Change Formula
Type-etc.

Vincent

RE: Change display equation to ams align

[Neal Becker]

Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote:

If I typed in an equation as display, and the
decide I'd like to turn it to ams align (multiline),
how can I do this without loosing everything I already typed?

Selecting the equation, then insert/math/ams align is
exactly the way to destroy your work.
 
 Don't select the equation then :).
 
 If your cursor is in the equation, then Insert-Math-AMS Align converts
 your equation type. Better is to use Edit-Math-Change Formula
 Type-etc.
 
 Vincent

Thanks.  Missed that.

Re: Drag and Drop

[Marcelo Acuña]

 Drag and drop text is one the most annoying
 things I have found with
 word processors.
 It is too easy to do it by accident, not notice,
 and output garbage for people to read.

 I can't imagine how one could mark some text with the mouse hold-and-click it 
 and drag it around by accident.

 It is easy. By accident! It happens constantly of many forms.
 Regards
Marcelo


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Re: Drag and Drop

[Johannes Knaus]

Am 06.08.2009 um 13:32 schrieb Nikos Alexandris:


JFYI,

gedit (GNOME's default text editor) has the Alt+Arrow(s) option to  
move

selected line_s_ of text. I find it very convenient.

Nikos



This could be a nice alternative IMHO.

Surely, another shortcut is needed, as Alt+Arrow is jump to the end  
of the next word on the Mac.

So Ctrl+arrow and Alt+arrow do the same right now on a Mac.

Johannes

Re: Drag and Drop

[Johannes Knaus]

Well, the thing with the shortcuts:

Ubuntu: Ctrl+X == Mac: Cmd+X (=the Command-Key, old Mac users still  
call it Apple-Key although there is no Apple on it any more but a  
kind of knot)

and so on.

Ah:
I just tried it in Lyx on MacOSX:
Alt+arrow and Ctrl+arrow do the same thing in Lyx.

In Openoffice on MacOSX they behave differently (right arrow here):
Alt+arrow == jump to the end of the next word
Ctrl+arrow == no function, just as arrows alone
Command+arrow == jump to end of the line

Anyway, when I work with the GIMP on a Mac I have to use Ctrl+X  
instead of Cmd+X, as GIMP runs in a seperate X.org on a Mac.


My Mac-only Editor uses Ctrl/Cmd or Alt+X to jump to the line endings.

I have to learn shortcuts for each App. And when I switch Apps or even  
more when I switch OSes (what I frequently do: I work on a Mac, in the  
Lab we've got a WindowsXP-PC and my Netbook is running Ubuntu) I mix  
it up frequently.


So maybe that's why I prefer to use a mouse: Every program uses  
different shortcuts but the mouse (nearly) always does what I intend.


Greets,
Johannes

Re: Eq numbering in ams article

[Paul A. Rubin]

Neal Becker wrote:

Paul A. Rubin wrote:


Neal Becker wrote:

In ams article, if I don't put a \section, equations are numbered as 0.1,
0.2, etc.  What can I do about that?


The layout file is adding that (as well as the same convention for
numbering figures) to the preamble.  There's a somewhat unhelpful
comment in the layout file to comment those lines out if you don't want
them -- the catch being that you cannot comment them out in the LyX doc;
you would have to export to LaTeX and comment them out (or delete them)
there.

For the nonce, about the best suggestion I have is to hack the
amsart.layout file, remove either or both lines, and save it -- assuming
you *never* want to number within sections when using AMS article.

Personally, I think the correct approach would be to omit those line
from the layout file and make an optional module for those who do want
numbering within sections.  You might want to file a bug report on this.

/Paul

http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6123



I've attached a hacked layout file and a couple of modules to the 
ticket.  If you have not already fixed this yourself, you can download 
them to your local layouts directory, then reconfigure/restart LyX.


/Paul

Re: Eq numbering in ams article

[Neal Becker]

Paul A. Rubin wrote:

 Neal Becker wrote:
 Paul A. Rubin wrote:
 
 Neal Becker wrote:
 In ams article, if I don't put a \section, equations are numbered as
 0.1,
 0.2, etc.  What can I do about that?

 The layout file is adding that (as well as the same convention for
 numbering figures) to the preamble.  There's a somewhat unhelpful
 comment in the layout file to comment those lines out if you don't want
 them -- the catch being that you cannot comment them out in the LyX doc;
 you would have to export to LaTeX and comment them out (or delete them)
 there.

 For the nonce, about the best suggestion I have is to hack the
 amsart.layout file, remove either or both lines, and save it -- assuming
 you *never* want to number within sections when using AMS article.

 Personally, I think the correct approach would be to omit those line
 from the layout file and make an optional module for those who do want
 numbering within sections.  You might want to file a bug report on this.

 /Paul
 http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6123
 
 
 I've attached a hacked layout file and a couple of modules to the
 ticket.  If you have not already fixed this yourself, you can download
 them to your local layouts directory, then reconfigure/restart LyX.
 
 /Paul

Thanks!

Re: about word counter

[Steve Litt]

On Thursday 06 August 2009 03:27:47 Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 Marcelo Acuña wrote:
  It seemed to me to have read that lyx 1.6.4 would have the feature that
  word in notes would not be counted, but I read the roadmap of this
  version and future 2.0 version and I can't see it

 Yes, LyX 1.6.4 introduces this feature. Look here (query for bug 2566):
 http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInBranch

 Jürgen

Curious -- if you did lyx -e text mydoc.lyx | wc -w wouldn't that give you a 
wordcount a fairly accurate without comments?

SteveT

Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
http://www.recession-relief.US
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Re: about word counter

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Steve Litt wrote:
  Yes, LyX 1.6.4 introduces this feature. Look here (query for bug 2566):
  http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInBranch
 
  Jürgen

 Curious -- if you did lyx -e text mydoc.lyx | wc -w wouldn't that give
 you a wordcount a fairly accurate without comments?

Maybe, maybe not. LyX's word count is always only an approximation. If you 
need precise statistics, you'll have to count the words in the output (DVI, 
PDF), including bibliography, references, etc.

Tools  Statistics is neat, fuzzy helper function, nothing more.

Jürgen

Re: Problems with indentation and linguistics module (covington)

[Johannes Knaus]

Can I correct this? How?


\renewenvironment{example}{%
\begin{examples}\settowidth{\labelwidth}{(0.00)}\item}
{\end{examples}}

Jürgen


I added these lines to the preamble and now the numbers are correctly  
indented but on the beginning/the left side they stand out a little  
bit, seen from the left textborder.

That isn't the case without the lines above.

Roughly, it looks like this:

  text text text text text text text
  text text text text text text text
  text text text text text text text

(3.10)  Example
 Example

  text text text text text text text
  text text text text text text text
  text text text text text text text
  text text text text text text text



Grüße,

Johannes

How to have 3 types of quotation marks

[Piero]

Hello,

I wonder if there's a simple manner to solve this.

I need 3 kinds of quotation marks:

single quotation mark ('), double quotation mark (), and caporal quotation 
mark 
(« »).

As I need both single and double quotation marks, I don't want to change 
Document  settings  Language  quotestyle which now is set as  this (and 
allows me to use 'this' pressing the Alt key).
But as I use an italian keyboard, I would like to have a direct key binding 
also 
to the « and » characters. The best would be to bind some combination, e. 
g. 

Alt +  = «

and

Alt +  = » (or Alt + Shift +  = »)



Another (smarter?) way would be a shortkey to change the auto quote style 
setting to «quote style» (and back)

but I have no clue on how to use the kmap file or similar. Any (starting) help?

Thanks.

Piero

Emphasis with passthrough

[Sam Liddicott]

If I use a layout with Passthrough 1 then the Lyx E emphasis toolbar
button will still insert \emph{} but other CharStyle: insets won't work.

Is this a bug, or is there some way I can specify an inset so that it
also inserts Latex macros into an environment defined with Passthrough 1

Sam

Re: Emphasis with passthrough

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Sam Liddicott s...@liddicott.com writes:
 If I use a layout with Passthrough 1 then the Lyx E emphasis toolbar
 button will still insert \emph{} but other CharStyle: insets won't work.

 Is this a bug, or is there some way I can specify an inset so that it
 also inserts Latex macros into an environment defined with Passthrough 1

It is a bug. Note that the semantics of passthru paragraphs is not well
defined right now. I hope that I will be able to improve this in 1.7/2.0

JMarc

Re: How to have 3 types of quotation marks

[Ignacio García]

Piero pierofaust...@... writes:

 I need 3 kinds of quotation marks:
 
 single quotation mark ('), double quotation mark (), and caporal quotation 
mark 
 (« »).
 
 As I need both single and double quotation marks, I don't want to change 
 Document  settings  Language  quotestyle which now is set as  this (and 
 allows me to use 'this' pressing the Alt key).
 But as I use an italian keyboard, I would like to have a direct key binding 
also 
 to the « and » characters. The best would be to bind some combination, e. 
g. 
 
 Alt +  = «
 
 and
 
 Alt +  = » (or Alt + Shift +  = »)
 
 Another (smarter?) way would be a shortkey to change the auto quote style 
 setting to «quote style» (and back)
 
 but I have no clue on how to use the kmap file or similar. Any (starting) 
help?
 

On Ubuntu 9.04 and Gnome, I use the following key sequence: 
Multi_key less less : «   guillemotleft
Multi_key greater greater : »   guillemotright

(from /usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose, I think is the one used
for it_IT.UTF-8, the same as used for es_ES.UTF-8)

These key combination works in LyX and many other applications.
You must press Right Win (or your ComposeKey) and release it, then twice  (or 
)

In my system Multi_key is associated to Right Win, this can be set in 
System  Preferences  Keyboard  Dists.  Options button

Regards
Ignacio

Re: Problems with indentation and linguistics module (covington)

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Johannes Knaus wrote:
 I added these lines to the preamble and now the numbers are correctly  
 indented but on the beginning/the left side they stand out a little  
 bit, seen from the left textborder.
 That isn't the case without the lines above.

You need to play with other list values such as \leftmargin. Adjusting lists 
can be a tricky business.

Jürgen

Re: Emphasis with passthrough

[Sam Liddicott]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

Sam Liddicott s...@liddicott.com writes:
  

If I use a layout with Passthrough 1 then the Lyx E emphasis toolbar
button will still insert \emph{} but other CharStyle: insets won't work.

Is this a bug, or is there some way I can specify an inset so that it
also inserts Latex macros into an environment defined with Passthrough 1



It is a bug. Note that the semantics of passthru paragraphs is not well
defined right now. I hope that I will be able to improve this in 1.7/2.0
  


Please keep me involved in the discussions.

I'm mostly re-written notangle in awk (to fix a few bugs) and so that it 
recognizes Latex macros like

\begin{CodeScrap}
instead of ...=


and
\end{CodeScrap}
instead of @

And I want to use an inset instead of ... for including chunks.

I'm also intending to re-write noweave entirely as latex macros if I can 
manage it, based on the listings package.



Sam

Re: How to have 3 types of quotation marks

[Piero]

Ignacio García ignacio.gmora...@... writes:

  
 
 On Ubuntu 9.04 and Gnome, I use the following key sequence: 
 Multi_key less less : «   guillemotleft
 Multi_key greater greater : »   guillemotright
 


I use - ehm - Win XP SP3
Thanks anyway

Re: Emphasis with passthrough

[Sam Liddicott]

Sam Liddicott wrote:

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

Sam Liddicott s...@liddicott.com writes:
 
If I use a layout with Passthrough 1 then the Lyx E emphasis 
toolbar
button will still insert \emph{} but other CharStyle: insets won't 
work.


Is this a bug, or is there some way I can specify an inset so that it
also inserts Latex macros into an environment defined with 
Passthrough 1



It is a bug. Note that the semantics of passthru paragraphs is not well
defined right now. I hope that I will be able to improve this in 1.7/2.0
  


Please keep me involved in the discussions.

I'm mostly re-written notangle in awk (to fix a few bugs) and so that 
it recognizes Latex macros 


I'm using the attached .layout file, which generates Latex like this;

\begin{CodeScrap}
\item [{new_chunk() }] 
function new_chunk(chunk_name)

{
 active_chunk = chunk_name;
 chunks[chunk_name, part, ++chunk[chunk_name, part] ] =
chunk_name SUBSEP chunklet SUBSEP ++chunks[chunk_name, 
chunklet];

}
\end{CodeScrap}

Where the \item declares a chunk name.

I also want a \usechunk{chunk-name} which will be shown in Lyx with a 
static label use chunk, but I don't know if that can be done as an 
inset...


I also want to be able to pass additional optional arguments to the \item.

So although it is passthrough it has the same problems as verbatim 
does which is that it still looks for some Latex, in this case \item and 
\end{CodeScrap}, however I'm not too worried. I'll invent a \literal{} 
if I have to (which would have to be expressed in a CodeScrap as 
\literal{{\literal}} no doubt).


(I'm also open to other notations if you have any suggestions).

Sam


#\DeclareLyXModule{Noweb Literate Lyx}
#DescriptionBegin
#Adds \usepackage{noweb} to your document, along with the Scrap style.
#Also fixes the CharStyle:Code to work with noweb, redefining nowebs
#\code command to \nwcode (if you need it).
#DescriptionEnd

Format 11
OutputType literate

AddToPreamble
\usepackage{noweb}
% noweb breaks code command for logical markup
\newcommand{\nwcode}{\code}
\renewcommand{\code}[1]{\texttt{#1}}
EndPreamble


Style Scrap
Category  List
MarginFirst_Dynamic
LatexType Item_environment
LatexName CodeScrap
#NextNoIndent  1
NewLine   0
LeftMarginMMM
LabelSep  MMM
ParSep0.4
TopSep0.4
BottomSep 0.4
ItemSep   0.4
Align Block
AlignPossible Block,Left
FreeSpacing   1
PassThru  1
LabelType Manual
LabelFont
  Color   magenta
EndFont
TextFont
  Color   latex
  Family  Typewriter
EndFont
End

InsetLayout CharStyle:Chunkref
LyxType   charstyle
LabelString   chunkref
LabelType static
LatexType command
LatexName chunkref
Font
  Series  bold
  Color   black
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\chunkref}[1]{\texttt{#1}}
EndPreamble
End

Re: LyX Stopped Responding

[Dave Jarvis]

1.6.2. I'll upgrade. Thanks!

Dave

1D or linear input mode for math

[d . grelich]

Hello everyone,

I've just spent two hours or so looking for a solution for my problem  
on the internet, but I failed it seems. I even looked through the LyX  
ressource file to find a way to disable that feature by force, but  
this wasn't productive either.


I'd like to disable LyX' automatic typesetting mechanism that makes my  
\frac into two blue boxes with a fraction bar between them, that is, I  
want to write 'pure' LaTeX code in math mode.


Maple has an option for that, for example. You can let it typeset a  
fractions if you type / and exponents if you type ^, or you can  
disable that feature and it will display the plain code.


I find the 2d math mode slightly annoying, especially when writing  
fractions and exponents since one has to use the arrow keys rather  
often. I *could* use ERT, but I like the preview mechanism for  
formulas in LyX, and I don't have that for ERT.


I hope I described my problem well enough and that someone can give me a hint.

Thanks in advance,

  Denis Grelich

Re: 1D or linear input mode for math

[Guenter Milde]

On 2009-08-05, d.grel...@stud.uni-saarland.de wrote:
 Hello everyone,

 I'd like to disable LyX' automatic typesetting mechanism that makes my  
 \frac into two blue boxes with a fraction bar between them, that is, I  
 want to write 'pure' LaTeX code in math mode.

You can type your formula as text, mark it and convert to math with
e.g. Ctrl-m. 

For editing an existing formula, you might have success with copy and
paste (with the mouse) to re-convert to TeX code as text and then again
to math with Ctrl-m. This works also with copy from the source-view.

 I find the 2d math mode slightly annoying, especially when writing  
 fractions and exponents since one has to use the arrow keys rather  
 often. 

The spacebar helps to get out of the exponent, indices and the denominator.

What I find really annoying is that I cannot change the type of fraction
(nicefrac, frac, simple /, ...) but have to copy the content to a new
fraction.

 I *could* use ERT, but I like the preview mechanism for  
 formulas in LyX, and I don't have that for ERT.

Günter

Re: about word counter

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Marcelo Acuña wrote:
 It seemed to me to have read that lyx 1.6.4 would have the feature that
 word in notes would not be counted, but I read the roadmap of this version
 and future 2.0 version and I can't see it

Yes, LyX 1.6.4 introduces this feature. Look here (query for bug 2566):
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInBranch

Jürgen

Problems with indentation and linguistics module (covington)

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello,

I've got a problem with the example-numbering in the linguistics  
module:


I use the example-style to refer to OT-constraint definition  
(linguists may know what I'm talking about).

Basically it always looks like this:

(3.1) Constraint Name linebreak
  Constraint Definition

This works fine and the two words Constraint are perfectly aligned  
under each other, i.e. have the same indentation (obviously better  
than in this email ;-).


The problem occurs in a chapter (maybe I should note that I use KOMA- 
script book) where the counter grows above 9.

This looks roughly like this:

(3.10) Constraint Name linebreak
   Constraint Definition

So the indentation of the second line is to small. It seems that it is  
aligned in the same depth as if the counter consisted of only one  
number.


Can I correct this? How?

Thanks for replying.

Johannes

Re: Drag and Drop

[Helge Hafting]

Johannes Knaus wrote:
First of all, I simply didn't realize that mouse drag'n'drop did not 
work in Lyx and thought this could maybe a platform specific issue, not 
a general one.



On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 11:43 -0400, Michael Joyner:

Drag and drop text is one the most annoying things I have found with
word processors.
It is too easy to do it by accident, not notice, and output garbage
for people to read.



I can't imagine how one could mark some text with the mouse 
hold-and-click it and drag it around by accident.


Openoffice do this now and then. Firefox is very prone to this problem, 
but there it doesn't matter as you aren't actually editing the website.


This is what happens:

1. User selects something with the mouse (click+drag+release)
2. User notices that the selection is slightly wrong. Maybe there is
   a letter too much or too little selected.
3. User tries to re-do the selection. (click+drag). The selection
   is supposed to start in the _same_ position, so it is very easy
   to accidentally grab the wrongly selected text.
4. Seeing things go wrong, the user release the mouse button
   and the text lands somewhere. :-(

5. The smart user does an angry undo, the not so smart try editing
   the document into shape again, the ignorant don't notice what
   happened, and merely select the text to be copied and goes on with
   that.



I think the discussion on going on here is somewhat dogmatic. Many 
people use Ctrl+X and then Ctrl+V to shift textparts around. That's o.k. 
and that's what I do as I have no other chance in Lyx to do this.
My point is: Drag and drop is something many Mac Users (I am one) and 
Windows users may be very used to in everyday work. So implementing this 
feature would make Lyx a little easier to work with when you are new to 
Lyx.


If it can be done so that it isn't so accident prone - fine.


Those who don't like drag and drop are not forced to use it, it would be 
just another editing option (maybe to be activated or deactivated via 
GUI). Still, I don't see the problem in having this feature – if you 
want to use it, use it, if not, don't. I don't think this can create any 
trouble by accident.


See above. I do use the mouse for selections now and then, even if I use
ctrl+c and ctrl+v to do the copying. Of course, LyX normally uses a nice 
large font, so it is somewhat less vulnerable to mis-selection.


It certainly would be a problem, if implementing this feature really 
costs a lot of time. I simply don't know this as I'm not a programmer.



Mouse marking is already implemented. So is copy and cut.
So all it takes is to recognise that the user tries to drag the 
selection, and drop it somewhere. LyX could then:


1. Change the mouse cursor to a drag text cursor, when the drag
   starts.
2. Use the existing copy code that gets called upon ctrl+c.
3. Move the cursor as if the user had clicked the drop location
4. Use the existing paste code as if the user typed ctrl+v

A copy drag might be easy. A move drag may be trickier, as the 
window changes upon cut. The drop location then moves from where

the pointer is.

Perhaps the cut should be done at the beginning of the drag,
so that the drop location will be valid. On the other hand, that
makes aborting the drag harder instead.

Helge Hafting

Re: Drag and Drop

[Nikos Alexandris]

JFYI,

gedit (GNOME's default text editor) has the Alt+Arrow(s) option to move
selected line_s_ of text. I find it very convenient.

Nikos

Re: Lyx 1.6.3 Can I ditch the pointNclick list of open files below the toolbars???

[Helge Hafting]

Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:

I'm using lyx 1.6.3 on Sabayon Linux 4.2. Which is fairly impressive BTW.
I like most of the user interface. Well that is except that As a
keyboard-centric user with very poor mouse coordination I always resent
screen space taken up by point n' click specific tools such as most
toolbars. For example if alt+p[space] worked without that
scrollbox attached to the standard toolbar the .ui file would say

= Toolbars
= standard off,top
= extra off,top
= table off,bottom
= math off,bottom
= minibuffer off,bottom
= End

As it is the only one I leave on is standard. And that to keep the
viability of the  3-key,2-stroke keybinding alt+p[space]. Thus
I put up with wasting a whole line of screen space on mostly useless
stuff I would never ever click on.


[...]

BUT I would never ever wrestle with my mouse to get that (expletive
deleted) pointer on the name of the document displayed with an [x]
just under the toolbars... And that would be so, even if I wasn't just
as likely to accidentally click on one of the [x]s...

Is there any way to get them off my screen???



You can turn off all the toolbars if you like. I did not know that you
could loose keybindings that way, but define the keybindings in a custom
key binding file instead. That way, you can have the same keybindings
without any toolbars. (And you can define other keybindings you find
useful also.)

To get rid of the document tabs too, open all your files in
separate windows. (ALT+f w, or File-New Window)
Then, use your window manager to switch
between them. This is usually performed by alt+tab, although some
keyboard centric window managers might do it differently.

Helge Hafting

Re: Problems with indentation and linguistics module (covington)

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Johannes Knaus wrote:
 So the indentation of the second line is to small. It seems that it is  
 aligned in the same depth as if the counter consisted of only one  
 number.

 Can I correct this? How?

\renewenvironment{example}{%
\begin{examples}\settowidth{\labelwidth}{(0.00)}\item}
{\end{examples}}

Jürgen

Re: Eq numbering in ams article

[Neal Becker]

Paul A. Rubin wrote:

 Neal Becker wrote:
 In ams article, if I don't put a \section, equations are numbered as 0.1,
 0.2, etc.  What can I do about that?
 
 
 The layout file is adding that (as well as the same convention for
 numbering figures) to the preamble.  There's a somewhat unhelpful
 comment in the layout file to comment those lines out if you don't want
 them -- the catch being that you cannot comment them out in the LyX doc;
 you would have to export to LaTeX and comment them out (or delete them)
 there.
 
 For the nonce, about the best suggestion I have is to hack the
 amsart.layout file, remove either or both lines, and save it -- assuming
 you *never* want to number within sections when using AMS article.
 
 Personally, I think the correct approach would be to omit those line
 from the layout file and make an optional module for those who do want
 numbering within sections.  You might want to file a bug report on this.
 
 /Paul
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6123

Change display equation to ams align

[Neal Becker]

If I typed in an equation as display, and then decide I'd like to turn it to 
ams align (multiline), how can I do this without loosing everything I 
already typed?

Selecting the equation, then insert/math/ams align is exactly the way to 
destroy your work.

RE: Change display equation to ams align

[Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW]

If I typed in an equation as display, and the
decide I'd like to turn it to ams align (multiline),
how can I do this without loosing everything I already typed?

Selecting the equation, then insert/math/ams align is
exactly the way to destroy your work.

Don't select the equation then :).

If your cursor is in the equation, then Insert-Math-AMS Align converts
your equation type. Better is to use Edit-Math-Change Formula
Type-etc.

Vincent

RE: Change display equation to ams align

[Neal Becker]

Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote:

If I typed in an equation as display, and the
decide I'd like to turn it to ams align (multiline),
how can I do this without loosing everything I already typed?

Selecting the equation, then insert/math/ams align is
exactly the way to destroy your work.
 
 Don't select the equation then :).
 
 If your cursor is in the equation, then Insert-Math-AMS Align converts
 your equation type. Better is to use Edit-Math-Change Formula
 Type-etc.
 
 Vincent

Thanks.  Missed that.

Re: Drag and Drop

[Marcelo Acuña]

 Drag and drop text is one the most annoying
 things I have found with
 word processors.
 It is too easy to do it by accident, not notice,
 and output garbage for people to read.

 I can't imagine how one could mark some text with the mouse hold-and-click it 
 and drag it around by accident.

 It is easy. By accident! It happens constantly of many forms.
 Regards
Marcelo


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Re: Drag and Drop

[Johannes Knaus]

Am 06.08.2009 um 13:32 schrieb Nikos Alexandris:


JFYI,

gedit (GNOME's default text editor) has the Alt+Arrow(s) option to  
move

selected line_s_ of text. I find it very convenient.

Nikos



This could be a nice alternative IMHO.

Surely, another shortcut is needed, as Alt+Arrow is jump to the end  
of the next word on the Mac.

So Ctrl+arrow and Alt+arrow do the same right now on a Mac.

Johannes

Re: Drag and Drop

[Johannes Knaus]

Well, the thing with the shortcuts:

Ubuntu: Ctrl+X == Mac: Cmd+X (=the Command-Key, old Mac users still  
call it Apple-Key although there is no Apple on it any more but a  
kind of knot)

and so on.

Ah:
I just tried it in Lyx on MacOSX:
Alt+arrow and Ctrl+arrow do the same thing in Lyx.

In Openoffice on MacOSX they behave differently (right arrow here):
Alt+arrow == jump to the end of the next word
Ctrl+arrow == no function, just as arrows alone
Command+arrow == jump to end of the line

Anyway, when I work with the GIMP on a Mac I have to use Ctrl+X  
instead of Cmd+X, as GIMP runs in a seperate X.org on a Mac.


My Mac-only Editor uses Ctrl/Cmd or Alt+X to jump to the line endings.

I have to learn shortcuts for each App. And when I switch Apps or even  
more when I switch OSes (what I frequently do: I work on a Mac, in the  
Lab we've got a WindowsXP-PC and my Netbook is running Ubuntu) I mix  
it up frequently.


So maybe that's why I prefer to use a mouse: Every program uses  
different shortcuts but the mouse (nearly) always does what I intend.


Greets,
Johannes

Re: Eq numbering in ams article

[Paul A. Rubin]

Neal Becker wrote:

Paul A. Rubin wrote:


Neal Becker wrote:

In ams article, if I don't put a \section, equations are numbered as 0.1,
0.2, etc.  What can I do about that?


The layout file is adding that (as well as the same convention for
numbering figures) to the preamble.  There's a somewhat unhelpful
comment in the layout file to comment those lines out if you don't want
them -- the catch being that you cannot comment them out in the LyX doc;
you would have to export to LaTeX and comment them out (or delete them)
there.

For the nonce, about the best suggestion I have is to hack the
amsart.layout file, remove either or both lines, and save it -- assuming
you *never* want to number within sections when using AMS article.

Personally, I think the correct approach would be to omit those line
from the layout file and make an optional module for those who do want
numbering within sections.  You might want to file a bug report on this.

/Paul

http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6123



I've attached a hacked layout file and a couple of modules to the 
ticket.  If you have not already fixed this yourself, you can download 
them to your local layouts directory, then reconfigure/restart LyX.


/Paul

Re: Eq numbering in ams article

[Neal Becker]

Paul A. Rubin wrote:

 Neal Becker wrote:
 Paul A. Rubin wrote:
 
 Neal Becker wrote:
 In ams article, if I don't put a \section, equations are numbered as
 0.1,
 0.2, etc.  What can I do about that?

 The layout file is adding that (as well as the same convention for
 numbering figures) to the preamble.  There's a somewhat unhelpful
 comment in the layout file to comment those lines out if you don't want
 them -- the catch being that you cannot comment them out in the LyX doc;
 you would have to export to LaTeX and comment them out (or delete them)
 there.

 For the nonce, about the best suggestion I have is to hack the
 amsart.layout file, remove either or both lines, and save it -- assuming
 you *never* want to number within sections when using AMS article.

 Personally, I think the correct approach would be to omit those line
 from the layout file and make an optional module for those who do want
 numbering within sections.  You might want to file a bug report on this.

 /Paul
 http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6123
 
 
 I've attached a hacked layout file and a couple of modules to the
 ticket.  If you have not already fixed this yourself, you can download
 them to your local layouts directory, then reconfigure/restart LyX.
 
 /Paul

Thanks!

Re: about word counter

[Steve Litt]

On Thursday 06 August 2009 03:27:47 Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 Marcelo Acuña wrote:
  It seemed to me to have read that lyx 1.6.4 would have the feature that
  word in notes would not be counted, but I read the roadmap of this
  version and future 2.0 version and I can't see it

 Yes, LyX 1.6.4 introduces this feature. Look here (query for bug 2566):
 http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInBranch

 Jürgen

Curious -- if you did lyx -e text mydoc.lyx | wc -w wouldn't that give you a 
wordcount a fairly accurate without comments?

SteveT

Steve Litt
Recession Relief Package
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Re: about word counter

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Steve Litt wrote:
  Yes, LyX 1.6.4 introduces this feature. Look here (query for bug 2566):
  http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInBranch
 
  Jürgen

 Curious -- if you did lyx -e text mydoc.lyx | wc -w wouldn't that give
 you a wordcount a fairly accurate without comments?

Maybe, maybe not. LyX's word count is always only an approximation. If you 
need precise statistics, you'll have to count the words in the output (DVI, 
PDF), including bibliography, references, etc.

Tools  Statistics is neat, fuzzy helper function, nothing more.

Jürgen

Re: Problems with indentation and linguistics module (covington)

[Johannes Knaus]

Can I correct this? How?


\renewenvironment{example}{%
\begin{examples}\settowidth{\labelwidth}{(0.00)}\item}
{\end{examples}}

Jürgen


I added these lines to the preamble and now the numbers are correctly  
indented but on the beginning/the left side they stand out a little  
bit, seen from the left textborder.

That isn't the case without the lines above.

Roughly, it looks like this:

  text text text text text text text
  text text text text text text text
  text text text text text text text

(3.10)  Example
 Example

  text text text text text text text
  text text text text text text text
  text text text text text text text
  text text text text text text text



Grüße,

Johannes

How to have 3 types of quotation marks

[Piero]

Hello,

I wonder if there's a simple manner to solve this.

I need 3 kinds of quotation marks:

single quotation mark ('), double quotation mark (), and caporal quotation 
mark 
(« »).

As I need both single and double quotation marks, I don't want to change 
Document  settings  Language  quotestyle which now is set as  this (and 
allows me to use 'this' pressing the Alt key).
But as I use an italian keyboard, I would like to have a direct key binding 
also 
to the « and » characters. The best would be to bind some combination, e. 
g. 

Alt +  = «

and

Alt +  = » (or Alt + Shift +  = »)



Another (smarter?) way would be a shortkey to change the auto quote style 
setting to «quote style» (and back)

but I have no clue on how to use the kmap file or similar. Any (starting) help?

Thanks.

Piero

Emphasis with passthrough

[Sam Liddicott]

If I use a layout with Passthrough 1 then the Lyx E emphasis toolbar
button will still insert \emph{} but other CharStyle: insets won't work.

Is this a bug, or is there some way I can specify an inset so that it
also inserts Latex macros into an environment defined with Passthrough 1

Sam

Re: Emphasis with passthrough

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Sam Liddicott s...@liddicott.com writes:
 If I use a layout with Passthrough 1 then the Lyx E emphasis toolbar
 button will still insert \emph{} but other CharStyle: insets won't work.

 Is this a bug, or is there some way I can specify an inset so that it
 also inserts Latex macros into an environment defined with Passthrough 1

It is a bug. Note that the semantics of passthru paragraphs is not well
defined right now. I hope that I will be able to improve this in 1.7/2.0

JMarc

Re: How to have 3 types of quotation marks

[Ignacio García]

Piero pierofaust...@... writes:

 I need 3 kinds of quotation marks:
 
 single quotation mark ('), double quotation mark (), and caporal quotation 
mark 
 (« »).
 
 As I need both single and double quotation marks, I don't want to change 
 Document  settings  Language  quotestyle which now is set as  this (and 
 allows me to use 'this' pressing the Alt key).
 But as I use an italian keyboard, I would like to have a direct key binding 
also 
 to the « and » characters. The best would be to bind some combination, e. 
g. 
 
 Alt +  = «
 
 and
 
 Alt +  = » (or Alt + Shift +  = »)
 
 Another (smarter?) way would be a shortkey to change the auto quote style 
 setting to «quote style» (and back)
 
 but I have no clue on how to use the kmap file or similar. Any (starting) 
help?
 

On Ubuntu 9.04 and Gnome, I use the following key sequence: 
Multi_key less less : «   guillemotleft
Multi_key greater greater : »   guillemotright

(from /usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose, I think is the one used
for it_IT.UTF-8, the same as used for es_ES.UTF-8)

These key combination works in LyX and many other applications.
You must press Right Win (or your ComposeKey) and release it, then twice  (or 
)

In my system Multi_key is associated to Right Win, this can be set in 
System  Preferences  Keyboard  Dists.  Options button

Regards
Ignacio

Re: Problems with indentation and linguistics module (covington)

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Johannes Knaus wrote:
 I added these lines to the preamble and now the numbers are correctly  
 indented but on the beginning/the left side they stand out a little  
 bit, seen from the left textborder.
 That isn't the case without the lines above.

You need to play with other list values such as \leftmargin. Adjusting lists 
can be a tricky business.

Jürgen

Re: Emphasis with passthrough

[Sam Liddicott]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

Sam Liddicott s...@liddicott.com writes:
  

If I use a layout with Passthrough 1 then the Lyx E emphasis toolbar
button will still insert \emph{} but other CharStyle: insets won't work.

Is this a bug, or is there some way I can specify an inset so that it
also inserts Latex macros into an environment defined with Passthrough 1



It is a bug. Note that the semantics of passthru paragraphs is not well
defined right now. I hope that I will be able to improve this in 1.7/2.0
  


Please keep me involved in the discussions.

I'm mostly re-written notangle in awk (to fix a few bugs) and so that it 
recognizes Latex macros like

\begin{CodeScrap}
instead of ...=


and
\end{CodeScrap}
instead of @

And I want to use an inset instead of ... for including chunks.

I'm also intending to re-write noweave entirely as latex macros if I can 
manage it, based on the listings package.



Sam

Re: How to have 3 types of quotation marks

[Piero]

Ignacio García ignacio.gmora...@... writes:

  
 
 On Ubuntu 9.04 and Gnome, I use the following key sequence: 
 Multi_key less less : «   guillemotleft
 Multi_key greater greater : »   guillemotright
 


I use - ehm - Win XP SP3
Thanks anyway

Re: Emphasis with passthrough

[Sam Liddicott]

Sam Liddicott wrote:

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

Sam Liddicott s...@liddicott.com writes:
 
If I use a layout with Passthrough 1 then the Lyx E emphasis 
toolbar
button will still insert \emph{} but other CharStyle: insets won't 
work.


Is this a bug, or is there some way I can specify an inset so that it
also inserts Latex macros into an environment defined with 
Passthrough 1



It is a bug. Note that the semantics of passthru paragraphs is not well
defined right now. I hope that I will be able to improve this in 1.7/2.0
  


Please keep me involved in the discussions.

I'm mostly re-written notangle in awk (to fix a few bugs) and so that 
it recognizes Latex macros 


I'm using the attached .layout file, which generates Latex like this;

\begin{CodeScrap}
\item [{new_chunk() }] 
function new_chunk(chunk_name)

{
 active_chunk = chunk_name;
 chunks[chunk_name, part, ++chunk[chunk_name, part] ] =
chunk_name SUBSEP chunklet SUBSEP ++chunks[chunk_name, 
chunklet];

}
\end{CodeScrap}

Where the \item declares a chunk name.

I also want a \usechunk{chunk-name} which will be shown in Lyx with a 
static label use chunk, but I don't know if that can be done as an 
inset...


I also want to be able to pass additional optional arguments to the \item.

So although it is passthrough it has the same problems as verbatim 
does which is that it still looks for some Latex, in this case \item and 
\end{CodeScrap}, however I'm not too worried. I'll invent a \literal{} 
if I have to (which would have to be expressed in a CodeScrap as 
\literal{{\literal}} no doubt).


(I'm also open to other notations if you have any suggestions).

Sam


#\DeclareLyXModule{Noweb Literate Lyx}
#DescriptionBegin
#Adds \usepackage{noweb} to your document, along with the Scrap style.
#Also fixes the CharStyle:Code to work with noweb, redefining nowebs
#\code command to \nwcode (if you need it).
#DescriptionEnd

Format 11
OutputType literate

AddToPreamble
\usepackage{noweb}
% noweb breaks code command for logical markup
\newcommand{\nwcode}{\code}
\renewcommand{\code}[1]{\texttt{#1}}
EndPreamble


Style Scrap
Category  List
MarginFirst_Dynamic
LatexType Item_environment
LatexName CodeScrap
#NextNoIndent  1
NewLine   0
LeftMarginMMM
LabelSep  MMM
ParSep0.4
TopSep0.4
BottomSep 0.4
ItemSep   0.4
Align Block
AlignPossible Block,Left
FreeSpacing   1
PassThru  1
LabelType Manual
LabelFont
  Color   magenta
EndFont
TextFont
  Color   latex
  Family  Typewriter
EndFont
End

InsetLayout CharStyle:Chunkref
LyxType   charstyle
LabelString   chunkref
LabelType static
LatexType command
LatexName chunkref
Font
  Series  bold
  Color   black
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\chunkref}[1]{\texttt{#1}}
EndPreamble
End

Re: LyX Stopped Responding

[Dave Jarvis]

1.6.2. I'll upgrade. Thanks!

Dave

1D or linear input mode for math

[d . grelich]

Hello everyone,

I've just spent two hours or so looking for a solution for my problem  
on the internet, but I failed it seems. I even looked through the LyX  
ressource file to find a way to disable that feature by force, but  
this wasn't productive either.


I'd like to disable LyX' automatic typesetting mechanism that makes my  
\frac into two blue boxes with a fraction bar between them, that is, I  
want to write 'pure' LaTeX code in math mode.


Maple has an option for that, for example. You can let it typeset a  
fractions if you type / and exponents if you type ^, or you can  
disable that feature and it will display the plain code.


I find the 2d math mode slightly annoying, especially when writing  
fractions and exponents since one has to use the arrow keys rather  
often. I *could* use ERT, but I like the preview mechanism for  
formulas in LyX, and I don't have that for ERT.


I hope I described my problem well enough and that someone can give me a hint.

Thanks in advance,

  Denis Grelich

Re: 1D or linear input mode for math

[Guenter Milde]

On 2009-08-05, d.grel...@stud.uni-saarland.de wrote:
> Hello everyone,

> I'd like to disable LyX' automatic typesetting mechanism that makes my  
> \frac into two blue boxes with a fraction bar between them, that is, I  
> want to write 'pure' LaTeX code in math mode.

You can type your formula as text, mark it and convert to math with
e.g. Ctrl-m. 

For editing an existing formula, you might have success with copy and
paste (with the mouse) to re-convert to TeX code as text and then again
to math with Ctrl-m. This works also with copy from the source-view.

> I find the 2d math mode slightly annoying, especially when writing  
> fractions and exponents since one has to use the arrow keys rather  
> often. 

The spacebar helps to get out of the exponent, indices and the denominator.

What I find really annoying is that I cannot change the type of fraction
(nicefrac, frac, simple /, ...) but have to copy the content to a new
fraction.

> I *could* use ERT, but I like the preview mechanism for  
> formulas in LyX, and I don't have that for ERT.

Günter

Re: about word counter

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Marcelo Acuña wrote:
> It seemed to me to have read that lyx 1.6.4 would have the feature that
> word in notes would not be counted, but I read the roadmap of this version
> and future 2.0 version and I can't see it

Yes, LyX 1.6.4 introduces this feature. Look here (query for "bug 2566"):
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInBranch

Jürgen

Problems with indentation and linguistics module (covington)

[Johannes Knaus]

Hello,

I've got a problem with the "example"-numbering in the linguistics  
module:


I use the example-style to refer to OT-constraint definition  
(linguists may know what I'm talking about).

Basically it always looks like this:

(3.1) Constraint Name 
  Constraint Definition

This works fine and the two words "Constraint" are perfectly aligned  
under each other, i.e. have the same indentation (obviously better  
than in this email ;-).


The problem occurs in a chapter (maybe I should note that I use KOMA- 
script book) where the counter grows above 9.

This looks roughly like this:

(3.10) Constraint Name 
   Constraint Definition

So the indentation of the second line is to small. It seems that it is  
aligned in the same depth as if the counter consisted of only one  
number.


Can I correct this? How?

Thanks for replying.

Johannes

Re: Drag and Drop

[Helge Hafting]

Johannes Knaus wrote:
First of all, I simply didn't realize that mouse drag'n'drop did not 
work in Lyx and thought this could maybe a platform specific issue, not 
a general one.



On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 11:43 -0400, Michael Joyner:

"Drag and drop" text is one the most annoying things I have found with
word processors.
It is too easy to do it by accident, not notice, and output garbage
for people to read.



I can't imagine how one could mark some text with the mouse 
hold-and-click it and drag it around by accident.


Openoffice do this now and then. Firefox is very prone to this problem, 
but there it doesn't matter as you aren't actually editing the website.


This is what happens:

1. User selects something with the mouse (click+drag+release)
2. User notices that the selection is slightly wrong. Maybe there is
   a letter too much or too little selected.
3. User tries to re-do the selection. (click+drag). The selection
   is supposed to start in the _same_ position, so it is very easy
   to accidentally grab the wrongly selected text.
4. Seeing things go wrong, the user release the mouse button
   and the text lands somewhere. :-(

5. The smart user does an angry undo, the not so smart try editing
   the document into shape again, the ignorant don't notice what
   happened, and merely select the text to be copied and goes on with
   that.



I think the discussion on going on here is somewhat dogmatic. Many 
people use Ctrl+X and then Ctrl+V to shift textparts around. That's o.k. 
and that's what I do as I have no other chance in Lyx to do this.
My point is: Drag and drop is something many Mac Users (I am one) and 
Windows users may be very used to in everyday work. So implementing this 
feature would make Lyx a little easier to work with when you are new to 
Lyx.


If it can be done so that it isn't so accident prone - fine.


Those who don't like drag and drop are not forced to use it, it would be 
just another editing option (maybe to be activated or deactivated via 
GUI). Still, I don't see the problem in having this feature – if you 
want to use it, use it, if not, don't. I don't think this can create any 
trouble by accident.


See above. I do use the mouse for selections now and then, even if I use
ctrl+c and ctrl+v to do the copying. Of course, LyX normally uses a nice 
large font, so it is somewhat less vulnerable to mis-selection.


It certainly would be a problem, if implementing this feature really 
costs a lot of time. I simply don't know this as I'm not a programmer.



Mouse marking is already implemented. So is copy and cut.
So all it takes is to recognise that the user tries to drag the 
selection, and drop it somewhere. LyX could then:


1. Change the mouse cursor to a "drag text" cursor, when the drag
   starts.
2. Use the existing "copy" code that gets called upon ctrl+c.
3. Move the cursor as if the user had clicked the drop location
4. Use the existing "paste" code as if the user typed ctrl+v

A "copy drag" might be easy. A "move drag" may be trickier, as the 
window changes upon "cut". The drop location then moves from where

the pointer is.

Perhaps the cut should be done at the beginning of the drag,
so that the drop location will be valid. On the other hand, that
makes aborting the drag harder instead.

Helge Hafting

Re: Drag and Drop

[Nikos Alexandris]

JFYI,

gedit (GNOME's default text editor) has the Alt+Arrow(s) option to move
selected line_s_ of text. I find it very convenient.

Nikos

Re: Lyx 1.6.3 Can I ditch the pointNclick list of open files below the toolbars???

[Helge Hafting]

Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:

I'm using lyx 1.6.3 on Sabayon Linux 4.2. Which is fairly impressive BTW.
I like most of the user interface. Well that is except that As a
keyboard-centric user with very poor mouse coordination I always resent
screen space taken up by point n' click specific tools such as most
toolbars. For example if "+[space]" worked without that
scrollbox attached to the "standard" toolbar the .ui file would say

=> Toolbars
=> "standard" "off,top"
=> "extra" "off,top"
=> "table" "off,bottom"
=> "math" "off,bottom"
=> "minibuffer" "off,bottom"
=> End

As it is the only one I leave on is "standard". And that to keep the
viability of the  "3-key,2-stroke" keybinding "+[space]". Thus
I put up with wasting a whole line of screen space on mostly useless
stuff I would never ever "click" on.


[...]

BUT I would never ever wrestle with my mouse to get that (expletive
deleted) pointer on the name of the document displayed with an [x]
just under the toolbars... And that would be so, even if I wasn't just
as likely to accidentally click on one of the [x]s...

Is there any way to get them off my screen???



You can turn off all the toolbars if you like. I did not know that you
could loose keybindings that way, but define the keybindings in a custom
key binding file instead. That way, you can have the same keybindings
without any toolbars. (And you can define other keybindings you find
useful also.)

To get rid of the document tabs too, open all your files in
separate windows. (ALT+f w, or "File->New Window")
Then, use your window manager to switch
between them. This is usually performed by alt+tab, although some
keyboard centric window managers might do it differently.

Helge Hafting

Re: Problems with indentation and linguistics module (covington)

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Johannes Knaus wrote:
> So the indentation of the second line is to small. It seems that it is  
> aligned in the same depth as if the counter consisted of only one  
> number.
>
> Can I correct this? How?

\renewenvironment{example}{%
\begin{examples}\settowidth{\labelwidth}{(0.00)}\item}
{\end{examples}}

Jürgen

Re: Eq numbering in ams article

[Neal Becker]

Paul A. Rubin wrote:

> Neal Becker wrote:
>> In ams article, if I don't put a \section, equations are numbered as 0.1,
>> 0.2, etc.  What can I do about that?
>> 
> 
> The layout file is adding that (as well as the same convention for
> numbering figures) to the preamble.  There's a somewhat unhelpful
> comment in the layout file to comment those lines out if you don't want
> them -- the catch being that you cannot comment them out in the LyX doc;
> you would have to export to LaTeX and comment them out (or delete them)
> there.
> 
> For the nonce, about the best suggestion I have is to hack the
> amsart.layout file, remove either or both lines, and save it -- assuming
> you *never* want to number within sections when using AMS article.
> 
> Personally, I think the correct approach would be to omit those line
> from the layout file and make an optional module for those who do want
> numbering within sections.  You might want to file a bug report on this.
> 
> /Paul
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6123

Change display equation to ams align

[Neal Becker]

If I typed in an equation as display, and then decide I'd like to turn it to 
ams align (multiline), how can I do this without loosing everything I 
already typed?

Selecting the equation, then insert/math/ams align is exactly the way to 
destroy your work.

RE: Change display equation to ams align

[Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW]

>If I typed in an equation as display, and the
>decide I'd like to turn it to ams align (multiline),
>how can I do this without loosing everything I already typed?
>
>Selecting the equation, then insert/math/ams align is
>exactly the way to destroy your work.

Don't select the equation then :).

If your cursor is in the equation, then Insert->Math->AMS Align converts
your equation type. Better is to use Edit->Math->Change Formula
Type->etc.

Vincent

RE: Change display equation to ams align

[Neal Becker]

Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote:

>>If I typed in an equation as display, and the
>>decide I'd like to turn it to ams align (multiline),
>>how can I do this without loosing everything I already typed?
>>
>>Selecting the equation, then insert/math/ams align is
>>exactly the way to destroy your work.
> 
> Don't select the equation then :).
> 
> If your cursor is in the equation, then Insert->Math->AMS Align converts
> your equation type. Better is to use Edit->Math->Change Formula
> Type->etc.
> 
> Vincent

Thanks.  Missed that.

Re: Drag and Drop

[Marcelo Acuña]

>> "Drag and drop" text is one the most annoying
>> things I have found with
 word processors.
 It is too easy to do it by accident, not notice,
 and output garbage for people to read.
>
> I can't imagine how one could mark some text with the mouse hold-and-click it 
> and drag it around by accident.

 It is easy. By accident! It happens constantly of many forms.
 Regards
Marcelo


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Re: Drag and Drop

[Johannes Knaus]

Am 06.08.2009 um 13:32 schrieb Nikos Alexandris:


JFYI,

gedit (GNOME's default text editor) has the Alt+Arrow(s) option to  
move

selected line_s_ of text. I find it very convenient.

Nikos



This could be a nice alternative IMHO.

Surely, another shortcut is needed, as Alt+Arrow is "jump to the end  
of the next word" on the Mac.

So Ctrl+arrow and Alt+arrow do the same right now on a Mac.

Johannes

Re: Drag and Drop

[Johannes Knaus]

Well, the thing with the shortcuts:

Ubuntu: Ctrl+X == Mac: Cmd+X (=the Command-Key, old Mac users still  
call it "Apple-Key" although there is no Apple on it any more but a  
kind of knot)

and so on.

Ah:
I just tried it in Lyx on MacOSX:
Alt+arrow and Ctrl+arrow do the same thing in Lyx.

In Openoffice on MacOSX they behave differently (right arrow here):
Alt+arrow == jump to the end of the next word
Ctrl+arrow == no function, just as arrows alone
Command+arrow == jump to end of the line

Anyway, when I work with the GIMP on a Mac I have to use Ctrl+X  
instead of Cmd+X, as GIMP runs in a seperate X.org on a Mac.


My Mac-only Editor uses Ctrl/Cmd or Alt+X to jump to the line endings.

I have to learn shortcuts for each App. And when I switch Apps or even  
more when I switch OSes (what I frequently do: I work on a Mac, in the  
Lab we've got a WindowsXP-PC and my Netbook is running Ubuntu) I mix  
it up frequently.


So maybe that's why I prefer to use a mouse: Every program uses  
different shortcuts but the mouse (nearly) always does what I intend.


Greets,
Johannes

Re: Eq numbering in ams article

[Paul A. Rubin]

Neal Becker wrote:

Paul A. Rubin wrote:


Neal Becker wrote:

In ams article, if I don't put a \section, equations are numbered as 0.1,
0.2, etc.  What can I do about that?


The layout file is adding that (as well as the same convention for
numbering figures) to the preamble.  There's a somewhat unhelpful
comment in the layout file to comment those lines out if you don't want
them -- the catch being that you cannot comment them out in the LyX doc;
you would have to export to LaTeX and comment them out (or delete them)
there.

For the nonce, about the best suggestion I have is to hack the
amsart.layout file, remove either or both lines, and save it -- assuming
you *never* want to number within sections when using AMS article.

Personally, I think the correct approach would be to omit those line
from the layout file and make an optional module for those who do want
numbering within sections.  You might want to file a bug report on this.

/Paul

http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6123



I've attached a hacked layout file and a couple of modules to the 
ticket.  If you have not already fixed this yourself, you can download 
them to your local layouts directory, then reconfigure/restart LyX.


/Paul

Re: Eq numbering in ams article

[Neal Becker]

Paul A. Rubin wrote:

> Neal Becker wrote:
>> Paul A. Rubin wrote:
>> 
>>> Neal Becker wrote:
 In ams article, if I don't put a \section, equations are numbered as
 0.1,
 0.2, etc.  What can I do about that?

>>> The layout file is adding that (as well as the same convention for
>>> numbering figures) to the preamble.  There's a somewhat unhelpful
>>> comment in the layout file to comment those lines out if you don't want
>>> them -- the catch being that you cannot comment them out in the LyX doc;
>>> you would have to export to LaTeX and comment them out (or delete them)
>>> there.
>>>
>>> For the nonce, about the best suggestion I have is to hack the
>>> amsart.layout file, remove either or both lines, and save it -- assuming
>>> you *never* want to number within sections when using AMS article.
>>>
>>> Personally, I think the correct approach would be to omit those line
>>> from the layout file and make an optional module for those who do want
>>> numbering within sections.  You might want to file a bug report on this.
>>>
>>> /Paul
>> http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6123
>> 
> 
> I've attached a hacked layout file and a couple of modules to the
> ticket.  If you have not already fixed this yourself, you can download
> them to your local layouts directory, then reconfigure/restart LyX.
> 
> /Paul

Thanks!

Re: about word counter

[Steve Litt]

On Thursday 06 August 2009 03:27:47 Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> Marcelo Acuña wrote:
> > It seemed to me to have read that lyx 1.6.4 would have the feature that
> > word in notes would not be counted, but I read the roadmap of this
> > version and future 2.0 version and I can't see it
>
> Yes, LyX 1.6.4 introduces this feature. Look here (query for "bug 2566"):
> http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInBranch
>
> Jürgen

Curious -- if you did "lyx -e text mydoc.lyx | wc -w" wouldn't that give you a 
wordcount a fairly accurate without comments?

SteveT

Steve Litt
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Re: about word counter

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Steve Litt wrote:
> > Yes, LyX 1.6.4 introduces this feature. Look here (query for "bug 2566"):
> > http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInBranch
> >
> > Jürgen
>
> Curious -- if you did "lyx -e text mydoc.lyx | wc -w" wouldn't that give
> you a wordcount a fairly accurate without comments?

Maybe, maybe not. LyX's word count is always only an approximation. If you 
need precise statistics, you'll have to count the words in the output (DVI, 
PDF), including bibliography, references, etc.

Tools > Statistics is neat, fuzzy helper function, nothing more.

Jürgen

Re: Problems with indentation and linguistics module (covington)

[Johannes Knaus]

Can I correct this? How?


\renewenvironment{example}{%
\begin{examples}\settowidth{\labelwidth}{(0.00)}\item}
{\end{examples}}

Jürgen


I added these lines to the preamble and now the numbers are correctly  
indented but on the beginning/the left side they stand out a little  
bit, seen from the left textborder.

That isn't the case without the lines above.

Roughly, it looks like this:

  text text text text text text text
  text text text text text text text
  text text text text text text text

(3.10)  Example
 Example

  text text text text text text text
  text text text text text text text
  text text text text text text text
  text text text text text text text



Grüße,

Johannes

How to have 3 types of quotation marks

[Piero]

Hello,

I wonder if there's a simple manner to solve this.

I need 3 kinds of quotation marks:

single quotation mark ('), double quotation mark ("), and caporal quotation 
mark 
(« »).

As I need both single and double quotation marks, I don't want to change 
Document > settings > Language > quotestyle which now is set as  "this" (and 
allows me to use 'this' pressing the Alt key).
But as I use an italian keyboard, I would like to have a direct key binding 
also 
to the "«" and "»" characters. The best would be to bind some combination, e. 
g. 

Alt + < = "«"

and

Alt + > = "»" (or Alt + Shift + < = "»")



Another (smarter?) way would be a shortkey to change the auto "quote style" 
setting to «quote style» (and back)

but I have no clue on how to use the kmap file or similar. Any (starting) help?

Thanks.

Piero

Emphasis with passthrough

[Sam Liddicott]

If I use a layout with "Passthrough 1" then the Lyx "E" emphasis toolbar
button will still insert \emph{} but other "CharStyle:" insets won't work.

Is this a bug, or is there some way I can specify an inset so that it
also inserts Latex macros into an environment defined with Passthrough 1

Sam

Re: Emphasis with passthrough

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

"Sam Liddicott"  writes:
> If I use a layout with "Passthrough 1" then the Lyx "E" emphasis toolbar
> button will still insert \emph{} but other "CharStyle:" insets won't work.
>
> Is this a bug, or is there some way I can specify an inset so that it
> also inserts Latex macros into an environment defined with Passthrough 1

It is a bug. Note that the semantics of passthru paragraphs is not well
defined right now. I hope that I will be able to improve this in 1.7/2.0

JMarc

Re: How to have 3 types of quotation marks

[Ignacio García]

Piero  writes:

> I need 3 kinds of quotation marks:
> 
> single quotation mark ('), double quotation mark ("), and caporal quotation 
mark 
> (« »).
> 
> As I need both single and double quotation marks, I don't want to change 
> Document > settings > Language > quotestyle which now is set as  "this" (and 
> allows me to use 'this' pressing the Alt key).
> But as I use an italian keyboard, I would like to have a direct key binding 
also 
> to the "«" and "»" characters. The best would be to bind some combination, e. 
g. 
> 
> Alt + < = "«"
> 
> and
> 
> Alt + > = "»" (or Alt + Shift + < = "»")
> 
> Another (smarter?) way would be a shortkey to change the auto "quote style" 
> setting to «quote style» (and back)
> 
> but I have no clue on how to use the kmap file or similar. Any (starting) 
help?
> 

On Ubuntu 9.04 and Gnome, I use the following key sequence: 
   : "«"   guillemotleft
   : "»"   guillemotright

(from /usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose, I think is the one used
for it_IT.UTF-8, the same as used for es_ES.UTF-8)

These key combination works in LyX and many other applications.
You must press Right Win (or your ComposeKey) and release it, then twice < (or 
>)

In my system  is associated to Right Win, this can be set in 
System > Preferences > Keyboard > Dists. > Options button

Regards
Ignacio

Re: Problems with indentation and linguistics module (covington)

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Johannes Knaus wrote:
> I added these lines to the preamble and now the numbers are correctly  
> indented but on the beginning/the left side they stand out a little  
> bit, seen from the left textborder.
> That isn't the case without the lines above.

You need to play with other list values such as \leftmargin. Adjusting lists 
can be a tricky business.

Jürgen

Re: Emphasis with passthrough

[Sam Liddicott]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

"Sam Liddicott"  writes:
  

If I use a layout with "Passthrough 1" then the Lyx "E" emphasis toolbar
button will still insert \emph{} but other "CharStyle:" insets won't work.

Is this a bug, or is there some way I can specify an inset so that it
also inserts Latex macros into an environment defined with Passthrough 1



It is a bug. Note that the semantics of passthru paragraphs is not well
defined right now. I hope that I will be able to improve this in 1.7/2.0
  


Please keep me involved in the discussions.

I'm mostly re-written notangle in awk (to fix a few bugs) and so that it 
recognizes Latex macros like

\begin{CodeScrap}
instead of <<...>>=


and
\end{CodeScrap}
instead of @

And I want to use an inset instead of <<...>> for including chunks.

I'm also intending to re-write noweave entirely as latex macros if I can 
manage it, based on the listings package.



Sam

Re: How to have 3 types of quotation marks

[Piero]

Ignacio García  writes:

> > 
> 
> On Ubuntu 9.04 and Gnome, I use the following key sequence: 
>: "«"   guillemotleft
>: "»"   guillemotright
> 


I use - ehm - Win XP SP3
Thanks anyway

Re: Emphasis with passthrough

[Sam Liddicott]

Sam Liddicott wrote:

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

"Sam Liddicott"  writes:
 
If I use a layout with "Passthrough 1" then the Lyx "E" emphasis 
toolbar
button will still insert \emph{} but other "CharStyle:" insets won't 
work.


Is this a bug, or is there some way I can specify an inset so that it
also inserts Latex macros into an environment defined with 
Passthrough 1



It is a bug. Note that the semantics of passthru paragraphs is not well
defined right now. I hope that I will be able to improve this in 1.7/2.0
  


Please keep me involved in the discussions.

I'm mostly re-written notangle in awk (to fix a few bugs) and so that 
it recognizes Latex macros 


I'm using the attached .layout file, which generates Latex like this;

\begin{CodeScrap}
\item [{new_chunk() }] 
function new_chunk(chunk_name)

{
 active_chunk = chunk_name;
 chunks[chunk_name, "part", ++chunk[chunk_name, "part"] ] =
chunk_name SUBSEP "chunklet" SUBSEP ++chunks[chunk_name, 
"chunklet"];

}
\end{CodeScrap}

Where the \item declares a chunk name.

I also want a \usechunk{chunk-name} which will be shown in Lyx with a 
static label "use chunk", but I don't know if that can be done as an 
inset...


I also want to be able to pass additional optional arguments to the \item.

So although it is "passthrough" it has the same problems as verbatim 
does which is that it still looks for some Latex, in this case \item and 
\end{CodeScrap}, however I'm not too worried. I'll invent a \literal{} 
if I have to (which would have to be expressed in a CodeScrap as 
\literal{{\literal}} no doubt).


(I'm also open to other notations if you have any suggestions).

Sam


#\DeclareLyXModule{Noweb Literate Lyx}
#DescriptionBegin
#Adds \usepackage{noweb} to your document, along with the Scrap style.
#Also fixes the CharStyle:Code to work with noweb, redefining nowebs
#\code command to \nwcode (if you need it).
#DescriptionEnd

Format 11
OutputType literate

AddToPreamble
\usepackage{noweb}
% noweb breaks code command for logical markup
\newcommand{\nwcode}{\code}
\renewcommand{\code}[1]{\texttt{#1}}
EndPreamble


Style Scrap
Category  List
MarginFirst_Dynamic
LatexType Item_environment
LatexName CodeScrap
#NextNoIndent  1
NewLine   0
LeftMarginMMM
LabelSep  MMM
ParSep0.4
TopSep0.4
BottomSep 0.4
ItemSep   0.4
Align Block
AlignPossible Block,Left
FreeSpacing   1
PassThru  1
LabelType Manual
LabelFont
  Color   magenta
EndFont
TextFont
  Color   latex
  Family  Typewriter
EndFont
End

InsetLayout CharStyle:Chunkref
LyxType   charstyle
LabelString   chunkref
LabelType static
LatexType command
LatexName chunkref
Font
  Series  bold
  Color   black
EndFont
Preamble
\newcommand{\chunkref}[1]{\texttt{#1}}
EndPreamble
End

Re: LyX Stopped Responding

[Dave Jarvis]

1.6.2. I'll upgrade. Thanks!

Dave