Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-28 Thread Ken Springer
On 8/17/13 7:30 AM, Ken Springer wrote: I'm always looking for software that fits me better, giving me the output I'm looking for. I'm interested in knowing what users of LyX think of the idea of using it as a general word processor, instead of MS Word, Libre Office, Apple's Pages, etc. Pluses?

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-26 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
Even better, at the Technical University in Aachen they came with wonderful orange boxes to hold approximately a 10 cm stack of the cards so you kept them on your desk to write notes on the cards. I think I still have one with a few cards left at my mother's house :-)-O el On 2013-08-25 15:04 ,

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-25 Thread David L. Johnson
On 08/25/2013 09:01 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: That was a typo and should have been 15, as the original message said. I know Lyrix was implemented first using XForms some time late in the 90s, but it must have been after 1995. Not exactly. It began either in 95 or earlier, and the original wi

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-25 Thread John Kane
Kids.! Remember SGML on the IBM mainframe? And did you know that you could use IBM punch cards as postcards? From: Wolfgang Keller To: LyX Users List Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 9:01:08 AM Subject: Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-25 Thread Wolfgang Keller
> > > And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the past 15 years or so. > > > > The first public LyX version was when? Can't have been much longer > > than 10 years ago. That was a typo and should have been 15, as the original message said. I know Lyrix was implemented first using XForms some tim

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-25 Thread Wolfgang Keller
> Version 1.0.0 of the software was released in 1999. > by the way, in Tübingen, my home town And it's hosted at one of my almae matres. At least the FTP server. >;-> Sincerely, Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-25 Thread Wolfgang Keller
> The new (4.0 IIRC) version of LibreOffice had problems on the Mac I'm at 4.1. But I don't have a clue of its math support, since I wouldn't use it for writing documents anyway. Sincerely, Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-23 Thread Jerry
On Aug 23, 2013, at 7:28 AM, Les Denham wrote: > On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 17:26:31 -0700 > Jerry wrote: > >> >> On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:16 AM, Les Denham wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:13:23 -0700 >>> Jerry wrote: >>> On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Les Denham wrote: > M

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 10:20:06 +0200 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > 22/08/2013 21:09, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com: > > Yeah, now that you mention it, I remember KLyX. Thank you, thank > > you, THANK YOU for winning that battle! > > The problem was not only around KDE (although there were ideo

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-23 Thread Les Denham
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 17:26:31 -0700 Jerry wrote: > > On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:16 AM, Les Denham wrote: > > > On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:13:23 -0700 > > Jerry wrote: > > > >> > >> On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Les Denham wrote: > >> > >>> My general approach to getting a LyX document into Word for

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-23 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
Went and had a look, I can find LyX documents from 2000 having survived transitions through a number of Linux distributions and machines, to a number of Macs. :-)-O el on 2013-08-21 17:53 stefano franchi said the following: > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Wolfgang Keller

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-23 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
22/08/2013 21:09, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com: Yeah, now that you mention it, I remember KLyX. Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU for winning that battle! The problem was not only around KDE (although there were ideological ideas behind this port that we did not share), but rather that we w

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Alan L Tyree
On 23/08/13 10:26, Jerry wrote: On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:16 AM, Les Denham wrote: On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:13:23 -0700 Jerry wrote: On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Les Denham wrote: My general approach to getting a LyX document into Word format is to us the LyXHTML export, import the exported f

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Jerry
On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:16 AM, Les Denham wrote: > On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:13:23 -0700 > Jerry wrote: > >> >> On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Les Denham wrote: >> >>> My general approach to getting a LyX document into Word format is >>> to us the LyXHTML export, import the exported file into >>>

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread David L. Johnson
On 08/22/2013 02:42 PM, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote: Thursday, 22. August 2013, 09:18:09 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: I give thanks to eternity that LyX wasn't made into a KDE app. My business has banned all use of all KDE libraries, for stability's sake. Qt's not bad, as a matter of fact

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:54:36 +0200 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Le 22/08/13 20:42, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com a écrit : > > In the history of LyX, did anyone campaign for it to be a KDE app, > > and if so, how was that (in my opinion mistake) prevented? > > This is KLyX, a fork attempted

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 22/08/13 20:42, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com a écrit : In the history of LyX, did anyone campaign for it to be a KDE app, and if so, how was that (in my opinion mistake) prevented? This is KLyX, a fork attempted by Matthias without telling us. But we won in the end :) JMarc

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 09:26:39 +0200 Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 09:18:09 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann > > > > wrote: > > > by the way, in Tübingen, my home town > > > > Cool! :) > > > > Scott > > More to Matthia

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread David L. Johnson
On 08/22/2013 04:43 AM, Liviu Andronic wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:49 AM, David L. Johnson wrote: at one time, and used Motif widgets). It was originally called "LyriX", but Matthais got a letter from a lawyer about that, so he changed the name. According to Matthias: "The idea to simpl

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread David L. Johnson
On 08/22/2013 03:42 AM, Pavel Sanda wrote: Scott Kostyshak wrote: Also note that Wikipedia's LyX page [1] lists the following: LyX 0.7.0 was released on October 24, 1995. That's derived from in depth searching I did few years back and put on the page posted in my previous mail. BTW David,

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > I wonder how many man hours where saved in the meantime by having to write > Lyx instead of Lyrix? > What about the frustration from having to write LyX instead of Lyx, or even worse the following monstrosity: LyX/LaTeX, complete with

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 10:43:55 schrieb Liviu Andronic: > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:49 AM, David L. Johnson wrote: > > at one time, and used Motif widgets). It was originally called > > "LyriX", but Matthais got a letter from a lawyer about that, so he > > changed the name. > > According

Re: Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:49 AM, David L. Johnson wrote: > at one time, and used Motif widgets). It was originally called "LyriX", > but Matthais got a letter from a lawyer about that, so he changed the name. > According to Matthias: "The idea to simply strip the name down to LyX came from David

Re: Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Pavel Sanda
Scott Kostyshak wrote: > Also note that Wikipedia's LyX page [1] lists the following: > LyX 0.7.0 was released on October 24, 1995. That's derived from in depth searching I did few years back and put on the page posted in my previous mail. BTW David, do you still have somewhere stored any pre

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Pavel Sanda
Wolfgang Engelmann wrote: > The history of LyX http://www.lyx.org/misc/archaeology/ Pavel

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Thursday, 22. August 2013, 09:18:09 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann > > wrote: > > by the way, in Tübingen, my home town > > Cool! :) > > Scott More to Matthias Ettrich: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthias_Ettrich Wolfgang

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-22 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
Am Wednesday, 21. August 2013, 18:53:58 schrieb stefano franchi: > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: > > > And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the past 15 years or so. > > > > The first public LyX version was when? Can't have been much longer > > than 10 years ago. >

Re: Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:49 PM, David L. Johnson wrote: > > Original Message Subject: Re: Question: Using LyX as > your daily word processor Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 12:22:19 -0400 From: David > L. JohnsonTo: Wolfgang > Keller > > I just checked, a

Fwd: Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread David L. Johnson
Original Message Subject:Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 12:22:19 -0400 From: David L. Johnson To: Wolfgang Keller On 08/21/2013 11:45 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread Chris Menzel
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:53 AM, stefano franchi wrote: > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: > >> >> > And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the past 15 years or so. >> >> The first public LyX version was when? Can't have been much longer >> than 10 years ago. > > > Way e

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread stefano franchi
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 6:53 PM, stefano franchi > wrote: > >> > And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the past 15 years or so. > >> > >> The first public LyX version was when? Can't have been much longer > >> than 10 years ago. > > > > W

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 6:53 PM, stefano franchi wrote: >> > And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the past 15 years or so. >> >> The first public LyX version was when? Can't have been much longer >> than 10 years ago. > > Way earlier than that. I switched to Lyx after I completed my dissertatio

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread stefano franchi
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: > > > And I say this as a LyX-only writer for the past 15 years or so. > > The first public LyX version was when? Can't have been much longer > than 10 years ago. Way earlier than that. I switched to Lyx after I completed my dissertation

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread Wolfgang Keller
> BTW, not to tamper enthusiasms, but the "standard" output of > LaTeX/TeX is not quite (yet) at the level that a professional > typesetter would produce. Obviously, an experienced competent human being will (almost) always be able to deliver better results than *any* algorithm. But since I am a

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread stefano franchi
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: > > Since all the typographic algorithms of TeX (linebreaking etc.) are > well-documented open-source, I always wondered why none of the more > reasonable document processors has ever implemented them. Wordperfect > could have been a "killer

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-21 Thread Les Denham
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:13:23 -0700 Jerry wrote: > > On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Les Denham wrote: > > > My general approach to getting a LyX document into Word format is > > to us the LyXHTML export, import the exported file into > > LibreOffice, fix the inevitable problems, and save in DOCX

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-20 Thread Jerry
On Aug 18, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Les Denham wrote: > My general approach to getting a LyX document into Word format is to > us the LyXHTML export, import the exported file into LibreOffice, fix > the inevitable problems, and save in DOCX format. How do you import the XHTML from LyXHTML into LibreO

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-20 Thread Wolfgang Keller
> > The only case where I still prefer to use LO over LyX is > > generation of documents from databases. > > That I do with LaTeX and Perl (such as pulling out VAT out of my > accounting package SQL-Ledger and printing it onto the scanned > form :-)-O That's exactly why I prefer to use LO for such

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-20 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: > For beamer I still prefer Texworks. The last time I tried, I couldn't > get the overlays to work *exactly* the way I wanted them with LyX, this > is one thing that's just much easier with a source-level editor. > > I do use LyX to write th

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-20 Thread Wolfgang Keller
I forgot to mention one "minus", btw: Compared to XML, with LyX/LaTeX you can't *enforce* compliance of documents with a given structure, like with XML schemas and validating editors. That can be a nuisance in an environment with several authors. > I literally cannot use Word or its clones for an

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-19 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
Maybe I am fortunate, in private practice and as such independent, but I plain refuse to send someone a document in Word format. And I tell all people sending me Microsoft documents that I don't use Microsoft products. el On 2013-08-19 00:02 , Chris Menzel wrote: [...] > Two of our best journals

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-19 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
That I do with LaTeX and Perl (such as pulling out VAT out of my accounting package SQL-Ledger and printing it onto the scanned form :-)-O el On 2013-08-18 21:24 , Wolfgang Keller wrote: [...] > The only case where I still prefer to use LO over LyX is > generation of documents from databases. [.

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-18 Thread Les Denham
On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 19:02:31 -0400 Chris Menzel wrote: > Two of our best journals in philosophy -- journals that regularly > publish rather technical papers -- require final versions of accepted > papers be submitted in Word. Transcribing a fairly technical 30 page > paper I'd written in LyX into

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-18 Thread David L. Johnson
On 08/18/2013 09:26 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On 8/18/13 5:02 PM, Chris Menzel wrote: On Aug 18, 2013 5:10 PM, "David L. Johnson" mailto:d...@lehigh.edu>> wrote: >... > For my papers it is of course ideal. Math journals all accept (prefer) LaTeX source, and they can change margins and other style

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-18 Thread Ken Springer
On 8/18/13 5:02 PM, Chris Menzel wrote: On Aug 18, 2013 5:10 PM, "David L. Johnson" mailto:d...@lehigh.edu>> wrote: >... > For my papers it is of course ideal. Math journals all accept (prefer) LaTeX source, and they can change margins and other style tweaks with their own style files --- so I

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-18 Thread Chris Menzel
On Aug 18, 2013 5:10 PM, "David L. Johnson" wrote: >... > For my papers it is of course ideal. Math journals all accept (prefer) LaTeX source, and they can change margins and other style tweaks with their own style files --- so I don't have to worry about it. Two of our best journals in philosop

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-18 Thread David L. Johnson
On 08/18/2013 04:24 PM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: I'm always looking for software that fits me better, giving me the output I'm looking for. I'm interested in knowing what users of LyX think of the idea of using it as a general word processor, instead of MS Word, Libre Office, Apple's Pages, etc.

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-18 Thread Wolfgang Keller
> I'm always looking for software that fits me better, giving me the > output I'm looking for. > > I'm interested in knowing what users of LyX think of the idea of > using it as a general word processor, instead of MS Word, Libre > Office, Apple's Pages, etc. > > Pluses? Minuses? Since I've st

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-18 Thread Ken Springer
On 8/18/13 3:15 AM, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote: Ken, ROTFLHMSBAHPIMP OK, this one has me stumped! LOL -- Ken Mac OS X 10.8.4 Firefox 23.0 Thunderbird 17.0.8 LibreOffice 4.1.04

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-18 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
I like Koma-Script for most everything which is very easy to tweak. But, the LaTeX requirement is a strength, rather than a weakness, in my view, "forcing" a certain structure for most cases. el On 2013-08-17 23:38 , Charlie wrote: [...] > Pluses, minuses? Don't know what they mean? I think i

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-18 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
Ken, On 2013-08-18 01:28 , Ken Springer wrote: [...] > NeoOffice exports LaTeX Being able to exchange Word docs when > I need to is a concern of mine. I don't know how much I'll need > it, but I don't want to have to jump through hoops to get it done. > I'm not too sure about how well the RT

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-17 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 2:28 AM, Ken Springer wrote: > NeoOffice exports LaTeX Being able to exchange Word docs when I need to > is a concern of mine. I don't know how much I'll need it, but I don't want > to have to jump through hoops to get it done. > Then I guess you're out of luck here.

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-17 Thread Ken Springer
On 8/17/13 2:57 PM, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote: I am using it for most everything in my private practice as an Obstetrician and Gynecologist. Letters, Operation Reports, Medical Certificates, Prescriptions, even third party forms (which I recreated), and of course presentations with Beamer. I use

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-17 Thread Charlie
On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 07:30:43 -0600 "Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com" sent this: >I'm always looking for software that fits me better, giving me the >output I'm looking for. I use it for just about everything letters, notes, articles and anything that doesn't need fancy fonts for the output, a

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-17 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
I am using it for most everything in my private practice as an Obstetrician and Gynecologist. Letters, Operation Reports, Medical Certificates, Prescriptions, even third party forms (which I recreated), and of course presentations with Beamer. I use NeoOffice to import Word documents, export them

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-17 Thread Ken Springer
On 8/17/13 12:13 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: Sat, 17 Aug 2013, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote: I'm interested in knowing what users of LyX think of the idea of using it as a general word processor, instead of MS Word, Libre Office, Apple's Pages, etc. Minuses: Much more difficult to cre

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-17 Thread Rich Shepard
Sat, 17 Aug 2013, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote: I'm interested in knowing what users of LyX think of the idea of using it as a general word processor, instead of MS Word, Libre Office, Apple's Pages, etc. Minuses: Much more difficult to create/change paragraph styles and character

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-17 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote: > Minuses: Much more difficult to create/change paragraph styles and > character styles than in MSWord or LibreOffice. > - LaTeX errors may become a nightmare if you don't know how to deal with them. Liviu

Re: Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-17 Thread Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com
On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 07:30:43 -0600 Ken Springer wrote: > I'm always looking for software that fits me better, giving me the > output I'm looking for. > > I'm interested in knowing what users of LyX think of the idea of > using it as a general word processor, instead of MS Word, Libre > Office,

Question: Using LyX as your daily word processor

2013-08-17 Thread Ken Springer
I'm always looking for software that fits me better, giving me the output I'm looking for. I'm interested in knowing what users of LyX think of the idea of using it as a general word processor, instead of MS Word, Libre Office, Apple's Pages, etc. Pluses? Minuses? -- Ken Mac OS X 10.8.4 F