Re: version control with RCS with LyX 2.3.3 on a mac with nextcloud-folders

2021-03-03 Thread Robert Neumann
yes, thanks, this seems to be the problem!
Regards
Robert

> Am 03.03.2021 um 12:23 schrieb Pavel Sanda :
> 
> On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 12:49:39PM +0100, Robert Neumann wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I am using Lyx 2.3.3 on a Mac with OS 10.13 and a Nextcloud-folder
>> I installed RCS, and as long as I use it, the version controll works fine. 
>> As soon as I acces the file from another Computer it does not work properly 
>> anymore. I get this message:
>> 
>> Bei der Ausführung des Befehls /while executing
>> 'co -p1.1 "Rundbrief_3_2021.lyx" > 
>> "/var/folders/fk/c_b11rp52kzddr83ky_w8d7mgn/T/lyx_tmpdir.jTeYDZU10377/lyxvcrev_1.1_.V10377"'
>>  ist ein Fehler aufgetreten.  / there was an error
>> 
>> and when I try to check in the changes:
>> 
>> Bei der Ausführung des Befehls / while executing
>> 'ci -q -u -m"(keine Protokollmeldung)??? ???test.lyx"' ist ein Fehler 
>> aufgetreten. / there was an error
>> 
>> So this seems to my, that the version control accesses some tmp-file which 
>> ??? of course ??? is not available on the other computer. I am not sure, if 
>> it might be a good idea, to change the tmp-path to the nextcloud. Especially 
>> since the local paths are different. 
> 
> I doubt it's related to the tmp directory.
> 
> When you check out the file is should be read-write, once you check-in it 
> should-be read-only.
> If this attribute is not set properly, RCS will fail.
> 
> So my first guess is that while Nextcloud transfers the content of the file 
> it does not properly transfer read-write attributtes of the file.
> Can you check it?
> 
> Pavel
> -- 
> lyx-users mailing list
> lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
-- 
lyx-users mailing list
lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users


Re: version control with RCS with LyX 2.3.3 on a mac with nextcloud-folders

2021-03-03 Thread Pavel Sanda
On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 12:49:39PM +0100, Robert Neumann wrote:
> Hello,
> I am using Lyx 2.3.3 on a Mac with OS 10.13 and a Nextcloud-folder
> I installed RCS, and as long as I use it, the version controll works fine. As 
> soon as I acces the file from another Computer it does not work properly 
> anymore. I get this message:
> 
> Bei der Ausführung des Befehls /while executing
> 'co -p1.1 "Rundbrief_3_2021.lyx" > 
> "/var/folders/fk/c_b11rp52kzddr83ky_w8d7mgn/T/lyx_tmpdir.jTeYDZU10377/lyxvcrev_1.1_.V10377"'
>  ist ein Fehler aufgetreten.  / there was an error
> 
> and when I try to check in the changes:
> 
> Bei der Ausführung des Befehls / while executing
> 'ci -q -u -m"(keine Protokollmeldung)??? ???test.lyx"' ist ein Fehler 
> aufgetreten. / there was an error
> 
> So this seems to my, that the version control accesses some tmp-file which 
> ??? of course ??? is not available on the other computer. I am not sure, if 
> it might be a good idea, to change the tmp-path to the nextcloud. Especially 
> since the local paths are different. 

I doubt it's related to the tmp directory.

When you check out the file is should be read-write, once you check-in it 
should-be read-only.
If this attribute is not set properly, RCS will fail.

So my first guess is that while Nextcloud transfers the content of the file it 
does not properly transfer read-write attributtes of the file.
Can you check it?

Pavel
-- 
lyx-users mailing list
lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users


Re: version control with RCS with LyX 2.3.3 on a mac with nextcloud-folders

2021-03-02 Thread Baris Erkus

On 02-Mar-21 2:49 PM, Robert Neumann wrote:

Hello,
I am using Lyx 2.3.3 on a Mac with OS 10.13 and a Nextcloud-folder
I installed RCS, and as long as I use it, the version controll works fine. As 
soon as I acces the file from another Computer it does not work properly 
anymore. I get this message:

Bei der Ausführung des Befehls /while executing
'co -p1.1 "Rundbrief_3_2021.lyx" > 
"/var/folders/fk/c_b11rp52kzddr83ky_w8d7mgn/T/lyx_tmpdir.jTeYDZU10377/lyxvcrev_1.1_.V10377"'
 ist ein Fehler aufgetreten.  / there was an error

and when I try to check in the changes:

Bei der Ausführung des Befehls / while executing
'ci -q -u -m"(keine Protokollmeldung)“ „test.lyx"' ist ein Fehler aufgetreten. 
/ there was an error

So this seems to my, that the version control accesses some tmp-file which – of 
course – is not available on the other computer. I am not sure, if it might be 
a good idea, to change the tmp-path to the nextcloud. Especially since the 
local paths are different.
Thanks!



RCS does not work on two different computers AFAIK.

--

↓↓
Please bottom-post. Start your reply here:

--
lyx-users mailing list
lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users


Re: version control with RCS with LyX 2.3.3 on a mac with nextcloud-folders

2021-03-02 Thread Robert Neumann
yes, it is synched and available on both computers.

RN

> Am 02.03.2021 um 13:25 schrieb Dr Eberhard Lisse :
> 
> Did you copy the ,v file?
> 
> el
> 
> On 02/03/2021 13:49, Robert Neumann wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I am using Lyx 2.3.3 on a Mac with OS 10.13 and a Nextcloud-folder
>> I installed RCS, and as long as I use it, the version controll works fine. 
>> As soon as I acces the file from another Computer it does not work properly 
>> anymore. I get this message:
>> 
>> Bei der Ausführung des Befehls /while executing
>> 'co -p1.1 "Rundbrief_3_2021.lyx" > 
>> "/var/folders/fk/c_b11rp52kzddr83ky_w8d7mgn/T/lyx_tmpdir.jTeYDZU10377/lyxvcrev_1.1_.V10377"'
>>  ist ein Fehler aufgetreten.  / there was an error
>> 
>> and when I try to check in the changes:
>> 
>> Bei der Ausführung des Befehls / while executing
>> 'ci -q -u -m"(keine Protokollmeldung)“ „test.lyx"' ist ein Fehler 
>> aufgetreten. / there was an error
>> 
>> So this seems to my, that the version control accesses some tmp-file which – 
>> of course – is not available on the other computer. I am not sure, if it 
>> might be a good idea, to change the tmp-path to the nextcloud. Especially 
>> since the local paths are different. 
>> Thanks!
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> To email me replace 'nospam' with 'el'
> 
> -- 
> lyx-users mailing list
> lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users

-- 
lyx-users mailing list
lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users


Re: version control with RCS with LyX 2.3.3 on a mac with nextcloud-folders

2021-03-02 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
Did you copy the ,v file?

el

On 02/03/2021 13:49, Robert Neumann wrote:
> Hello,
> I am using Lyx 2.3.3 on a Mac with OS 10.13 and a Nextcloud-folder
> I installed RCS, and as long as I use it, the version controll works fine. As 
> soon as I acces the file from another Computer it does not work properly 
> anymore. I get this message:
> 
> Bei der Ausführung des Befehls /while executing
> 'co -p1.1 "Rundbrief_3_2021.lyx" > 
> "/var/folders/fk/c_b11rp52kzddr83ky_w8d7mgn/T/lyx_tmpdir.jTeYDZU10377/lyxvcrev_1.1_.V10377"'
>  ist ein Fehler aufgetreten.  / there was an error
> 
> and when I try to check in the changes:
> 
> Bei der Ausführung des Befehls / while executing
> 'ci -q -u -m"(keine Protokollmeldung)“ „test.lyx"' ist ein Fehler 
> aufgetreten. / there was an error
> 
> So this seems to my, that the version control accesses some tmp-file which – 
> of course – is not available on the other computer. I am not sure, if it 
> might be a good idea, to change the tmp-path to the nextcloud. Especially 
> since the local paths are different. 
> Thanks!
> 


-- 
To email me replace 'nospam' with 'el'

-- 
lyx-users mailing list
lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users


version control with RCS with LyX 2.3.3 on a mac with nextcloud-folders

2021-03-02 Thread Robert Neumann
Hello,
I am using Lyx 2.3.3 on a Mac with OS 10.13 and a Nextcloud-folder
I installed RCS, and as long as I use it, the version controll works fine. As 
soon as I acces the file from another Computer it does not work properly 
anymore. I get this message:

Bei der Ausführung des Befehls /while executing
'co -p1.1 "Rundbrief_3_2021.lyx" > 
"/var/folders/fk/c_b11rp52kzddr83ky_w8d7mgn/T/lyx_tmpdir.jTeYDZU10377/lyxvcrev_1.1_.V10377"'
 ist ein Fehler aufgetreten.  / there was an error

and when I try to check in the changes:

Bei der Ausführung des Befehls / while executing
'ci -q -u -m"(keine Protokollmeldung)“ „test.lyx"' ist ein Fehler aufgetreten. 
/ there was an error

So this seems to my, that the version control accesses some tmp-file which – of 
course – is not available on the other computer. I am not sure, if it might be 
a good idea, to change the tmp-path to the nextcloud. Especially since the 
local paths are different. 
Thanks!
-- 
lyx-users mailing list
lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users


Re: Need a little help with version control

2021-02-12 Thread list_email

> On Feb 10, 2021, at 6:06 AM, Stephan Witt  wrote:
> 
> Am 10.02.2021 um 11:34 schrieb list_em...@icloud.com:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 9, 2021, at 5:16 AM, Stephan Witt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Am 09.02.2021 um 13:01 schrieb list_em...@icloud.com:
>>>> 
>>>> I’m trying to learn version control (SVN) with LyX on macOS. I have a 
>>>> little past experience with SVn in another context and I’m in Chapter 2 of 
>>>> the book at svnbook.red-bean.com as a refresher. I am the only person who 
>>>> will access the repository which is on my own computer.
>>>> 
>>>> I have set up new repository and imported three files, a LyX document and 
>>>> two graphics files. (I am using a nice GUI app on the Mac). I can check 
>>>> out the LyX document, edit it, and commit. But what I can’t figure out is 
>>>> what is the LyX File -> Version Control -> Register item for? I think it 
>>>> wants to add the current LyX file, which is assumed to be not under 
>>>> version control, to the repository. But _what_ repository? I made a second 
>>>> LyX file named Registering.lyx and typed “Registering a document” into the 
>>>> dialog box. Then I get this message:
>>>> 
>>>> Some problem occurred while running the command:
>>>> 'ci -q -u -i -t-"Registering a document" "Registering.lyx"'.
>>>> 
>>>> I think I am somehow am missing “Step 0” in setting things up.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks as always for any hints.
>>> 
>>> The problem with the "Register Item“ menu item is its missing cleverness. 
>>> It assumes the RCS version control system. That’s why it is unusable with 
>>> all other systems like SVN and GIT.
>>> 
>>> You have to register (add) it to your repository manually or with the help 
>>> of your GUI. Later you’re able to work with the LyX version control 
>>> features.
>>> 
>>> Stephan
>> 
>> Thanks, but still not working.
>> 
>> I create a new repository on my computer, then import or add a LyX document. 
>> The new doc appears as expected in the repository. I checkout the file into 
>> a working copy and edit with LyX, then commit the changes, make comparisons, 
>> etc. with my SVN client. In other words, I believe that I can manage things 
>> with my SVN client as expected. 
>> 
>> However, I cannot get the built-in LyX functionality to work. When the 
>> working copy of the LyX file is open, none of the expected File -> Version 
>> Control -> menu items appear, only Register…. Also, most of the icons in the 
>> Version Control Toolbar become active—only Register and Insert Version Info 
>> do anything, the latter inserting “No version control.”
>> 
>> The working copy that I checked out is apparently known as related to SVN 
>> because it has the .svn directory. Also (this is an update from my original 
>> post) when attempting the Regiser… action, I get a message
>> 
>> Some problem occurred while running the command:
>> 'svn add -q "Learning SVN in LyX.lyx”'.
>> 
>> So LyX recognizes somehow the presence of SVN but is trying to perform an 
>> add operation on a file that is already in the repository.
>> 
>> Clearly I am missing a basic step.
>> 
>> Jerry
> 
> Ok, it would be better if I verify my statements sometimes.
> 
> I’ve checked it myself now and it works for me. See the log below:
> 
> 13:59:54.564: Öffne Dokument ~/tmp/playground/Shortcuts-test2.lyx...
> 13:59:54.679: svn info "Shortcuts-test2.lyx"
> 13:59:54.693: svn: warning: W155010: The node 
> '/Users/stephan/tmp/playground/Shortcuts-test2.lyx' was not found.
> 13:59:54.693: 
> 13:59:54.694: svn: E29: Could not display info for all targets because 
> some targets don't exist
> 13:59:54.705: Dokument ~/tmp/playground/Shortcuts-test2.lyx ist geöffnet.
> 13:59:54.706: (file-open: ⌃O)support/Systemcall.cpp (276): Systemcall: 'svn 
> info "Shortcuts-test2.lyx"' finished with exit code 1
> 14:00:07.860: svn proplist "Shortcuts-test2.lyx"
> 14:00:07.877: svn: warning: W25: 
> '/Users/stephan/tmp/playground/Shortcuts-test2.lyx' is not under version 
> control
> 14:00:07.877: svn: E29: Could not display properties of all targets 
> because some targets are not versioned
> 14:00:07.878: svn: E29: Illegal target for the requested operation
> support/Systemcall.cpp (276): Systemcall: 'svn proplist 
> "Shortcuts-test2.lyx"' finished with exit code 1
> 14:00:16.886: 

Re: Need a little help with version control

2021-02-12 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 12.02.2021 um 10:52 schrieb list_em...@icloud.com:
> 
>> 
>> On Feb 10, 2021, at 6:06 AM, Stephan Witt  wrote:
>> 
>> Am 10.02.2021 um 11:34 schrieb list_em...@icloud.com:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 9, 2021, at 5:16 AM, Stephan Witt  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Am 09.02.2021 um 13:01 schrieb list_em...@icloud.com:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m trying to learn version control (SVN) with LyX on macOS. I have a 
>>>>> little past experience with SVn in another context and I’m in Chapter 2 
>>>>> of the book at svnbook.red-bean.com as a refresher. I am the only person 
>>>>> who will access the repository which is on my own computer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have set up new repository and imported three files, a LyX document and 
>>>>> two graphics files. (I am using a nice GUI app on the Mac). I can check 
>>>>> out the LyX document, edit it, and commit. But what I can’t figure out is 
>>>>> what is the LyX File -> Version Control -> Register item for? I think it 
>>>>> wants to add the current LyX file, which is assumed to be not under 
>>>>> version control, to the repository. But _what_ repository? I made a 
>>>>> second LyX file named Registering.lyx and typed “Registering a document” 
>>>>> into the dialog box. Then I get this message:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Some problem occurred while running the command:
>>>>> 'ci -q -u -i -t-"Registering a document" "Registering.lyx"'.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think I am somehow am missing “Step 0” in setting things up.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks as always for any hints.
>>>> 
>>>> The problem with the "Register Item“ menu item is its missing cleverness. 
>>>> It assumes the RCS version control system. That’s why it is unusable with 
>>>> all other systems like SVN and GIT.
>>>> 
>>>> You have to register (add) it to your repository manually or with the help 
>>>> of your GUI. Later you’re able to work with the LyX version control 
>>>> features.
>>>> 
>>>> Stephan
>>> 
>>> Thanks, but still not working.
>>> 
>>> I create a new repository on my computer, then import or add a LyX 
>>> document. The new doc appears as expected in the repository. I checkout the 
>>> file into a working copy and edit with LyX, then commit the changes, make 
>>> comparisons, etc. with my SVN client. In other words, I believe that I can 
>>> manage things with my SVN client as expected. 
>>> 
>>> However, I cannot get the built-in LyX functionality to work. When the 
>>> working copy of the LyX file is open, none of the expected File -> Version 
>>> Control -> menu items appear, only Register…. Also, most of the icons in 
>>> the Version Control Toolbar become active—only Register and Insert Version 
>>> Info do anything, the latter inserting “No version control.”
>>> 
>>> The working copy that I checked out is apparently known as related to SVN 
>>> because it has the .svn directory. Also (this is an update from my original 
>>> post) when attempting the Regiser… action, I get a message
>>> 
>>> Some problem occurred while running the command:
>>> 'svn add -q "Learning SVN in LyX.lyx”'.
>>> 
>>> So LyX recognizes somehow the presence of SVN but is trying to perform an 
>>> add operation on a file that is already in the repository.
>>> 
>>> Clearly I am missing a basic step.
>>> 
>>> Jerry
>> 
>> Ok, it would be better if I verify my statements sometimes.
>> 
>> I’ve checked it myself now and it works for me. See the log below:
>> 
>> 13:59:54.564: Öffne Dokument ~/tmp/playground/Shortcuts-test2.lyx...
>> 13:59:54.679: svn info "Shortcuts-test2.lyx"
>> 13:59:54.693: svn: warning: W155010: The node 
>> '/Users/stephan/tmp/playground/Shortcuts-test2.lyx' was not found.
>> 13:59:54.693: 
>> 13:59:54.694: svn: E29: Could not display info for all targets because 
>> some targets don't exist
>> 13:59:54.705: Dokument ~/tmp/playground/Shortcuts-test2.lyx ist geöffnet.
>> 13:59:54.706: (file-open: ⌃O)support/Systemcall.cpp (276): Systemcall: 'svn 
>> info "Shortcuts-test2.lyx"' finished with exit code 1
>> 14:00:07.860: svn proplist "Shortcuts-test2.lyx"
>> 14:00:07.877: svn: warning: W25: 
>> '/Users/stephan/tmp/p

Re: Need a little help with version control

2021-02-12 Thread list_email
TFM isn’t helpful. It does not tell how to get started. Plus, TFM assumes more 
knowledge of version control systems than most LyX users have. I don’t want to 
install rcs as long as svn is supposed to work.

Jerry


> On Feb 10, 2021, at 5:45 AM, Dr Eberhard Lisse  wrote:
> 
> The 'ci not found' means it wants the RCS system to which ci belongs and
> this is not installed, which can be rectified easily by homebrew.
> 
> For the rest, RTFM (Help --> Additional Features)
> 
> el
> 
> 
> On 09/02/2021 14:01, list_em...@icloud.com wrote:
>> I’m trying to learn version control (SVN) with LyX on macOS. I have a
>> little past experience with SVn in another context and I’m in Chapter
>> 2 of the book at svnbook.red-bean.com as a refresher.  I am the only
>> person who will access the repository which is on my own computer.
>> 
>> I have set up new repository and imported three files, a LyX document
>> and two graphics files.  (I am using a nice GUI app on the Mac).  I
>> can check out the LyX document, edit it, and commit.  But what I can’t
>> figure out is what is the LyX File -> Version Control -> Register item
>> for?  I think it wants to add the current LyX file, which is assumed
>> to be not under version control, to the repository.  But _what_
>> repository?  I made a second LyX file named Registering.lyx and typed
>> “Registering a document” into the dialog box.  Then I get this
>> message:
>> 
>> Some problem occurred while running the command:
>> 'ci -q -u -i -t-"Registering a document" "Registering.lyx"'.
>> 
>> I think I am somehow am missing “Step 0” in setting things up.
>> 
>> Thanks as always for any hints.
>> 
>> Jerry
>> 
> 
> -- 
> To email me replace 'nospam' with 'el'
> 
> 
> -- 
> To email me replace 'nospam' with 'el'
> 
> -- 
> lyx-users mailing list
> lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users

-- 
lyx-users mailing list
lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users


Re: Need a little help with version control

2021-02-12 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
Jerry,

unless you collaborate SVN is overkill :-)-O

I have a large project under RCS and make control. Works very well.

el

On 12/02/2021 10:06, list_em...@icloud.com wrote:
> TFM isn’t helpful.  It does not tell how to get started.  Plus, TFM
> assumes more knowledge of version control systems than most LyX users
> have.  I don’t want to install rcs as long as svn is supposed to work.
> 
> Jerry

-- 
lyx-users mailing list
lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users


Re: Need a little help with version control

2021-02-10 Thread list_email

> On Feb 9, 2021, at 5:16 AM, Stephan Witt  wrote:
> 
> Am 09.02.2021 um 13:01 schrieb list_em...@icloud.com:
>> 
>> I’m trying to learn version control (SVN) with LyX on macOS. I have a little 
>> past experience with SVn in another context and I’m in Chapter 2 of the book 
>> at svnbook.red-bean.com as a refresher. I am the only person who will access 
>> the repository which is on my own computer.
>> 
>> I have set up new repository and imported three files, a LyX document and 
>> two graphics files. (I am using a nice GUI app on the Mac). I can check out 
>> the LyX document, edit it, and commit. But what I can’t figure out is what 
>> is the LyX File -> Version Control -> Register item for? I think it wants to 
>> add the current LyX file, which is assumed to be not under version control, 
>> to the repository. But _what_ repository? I made a second LyX file named 
>> Registering.lyx and typed “Registering a document” into the dialog box. Then 
>> I get this message:
>> 
>> Some problem occurred while running the command:
>> 'ci -q -u -i -t-"Registering a document" "Registering.lyx"'.
>> 
>> I think I am somehow am missing “Step 0” in setting things up.
>> 
>> Thanks as always for any hints.
> 
> The problem with the "Register Item“ menu item is its missing cleverness. It 
> assumes the RCS version control system. That’s why it is unusable with all 
> other systems like SVN and GIT.
> 
> You have to register (add) it to your repository manually or with the help of 
> your GUI. Later you’re able to work with the LyX version control features.
> 
> Stephan

Thanks, but still not working.

I create a new repository on my computer, then import or add a LyX document. 
The new doc appears as expected in the repository. I checkout the file into a 
working copy and edit with LyX, then commit the changes, make comparisons, etc. 
with my SVN client. In other words, I believe that I can manage things with my 
SVN client as expected. 

However, I cannot get the built-in LyX functionality to work. When the working 
copy of the LyX file is open, none of the expected File -> Version Control -> 
menu items appear, only Register…. Also, most of the icons in the Version 
Control Toolbar become active—only Register and Insert Version Info do 
anything, the latter inserting “No version control.”

The working copy that I checked out is apparently known as related to SVN 
because it has the .svn directory. Also (this is an update from my original 
post) when attempting the Regiser… action, I get a message

 Some problem occurred while running the command:
'svn add -q "Learning SVN in LyX.lyx”'.

So LyX recognizes somehow the presence of SVN but is trying to perform an add 
operation on a file that is already in the repository.

Clearly I am missing a basic step.

Jerry
 
-- 
lyx-users mailing list
lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users


Re: Need a little help with version control

2021-02-10 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 10.02.2021 um 11:34 schrieb list_em...@icloud.com:
> 
>> 
>> On Feb 9, 2021, at 5:16 AM, Stephan Witt  wrote:
>> 
>> Am 09.02.2021 um 13:01 schrieb list_em...@icloud.com:
>>> 
>>> I’m trying to learn version control (SVN) with LyX on macOS. I have a 
>>> little past experience with SVn in another context and I’m in Chapter 2 of 
>>> the book at svnbook.red-bean.com as a refresher. I am the only person who 
>>> will access the repository which is on my own computer.
>>> 
>>> I have set up new repository and imported three files, a LyX document and 
>>> two graphics files. (I am using a nice GUI app on the Mac). I can check out 
>>> the LyX document, edit it, and commit. But what I can’t figure out is what 
>>> is the LyX File -> Version Control -> Register item for? I think it wants 
>>> to add the current LyX file, which is assumed to be not under version 
>>> control, to the repository. But _what_ repository? I made a second LyX file 
>>> named Registering.lyx and typed “Registering a document” into the dialog 
>>> box. Then I get this message:
>>> 
>>> Some problem occurred while running the command:
>>> 'ci -q -u -i -t-"Registering a document" "Registering.lyx"'.
>>> 
>>> I think I am somehow am missing “Step 0” in setting things up.
>>> 
>>> Thanks as always for any hints.
>> 
>> The problem with the "Register Item“ menu item is its missing cleverness. It 
>> assumes the RCS version control system. That’s why it is unusable with all 
>> other systems like SVN and GIT.
>> 
>> You have to register (add) it to your repository manually or with the help 
>> of your GUI. Later you’re able to work with the LyX version control features.
>> 
>> Stephan
> 
> Thanks, but still not working.
> 
> I create a new repository on my computer, then import or add a LyX document. 
> The new doc appears as expected in the repository. I checkout the file into a 
> working copy and edit with LyX, then commit the changes, make comparisons, 
> etc. with my SVN client. In other words, I believe that I can manage things 
> with my SVN client as expected. 
> 
> However, I cannot get the built-in LyX functionality to work. When the 
> working copy of the LyX file is open, none of the expected File -> Version 
> Control -> menu items appear, only Register…. Also, most of the icons in the 
> Version Control Toolbar become active—only Register and Insert Version Info 
> do anything, the latter inserting “No version control.”
> 
> The working copy that I checked out is apparently known as related to SVN 
> because it has the .svn directory. Also (this is an update from my original 
> post) when attempting the Regiser… action, I get a message
> 
> Some problem occurred while running the command:
> 'svn add -q "Learning SVN in LyX.lyx”'.
> 
> So LyX recognizes somehow the presence of SVN but is trying to perform an add 
> operation on a file that is already in the repository.
> 
> Clearly I am missing a basic step.
> 
> Jerry

Ok, it would be better if I verify my statements sometimes.

I’ve checked it myself now and it works for me. See the log below:

13:59:54.564: Öffne Dokument ~/tmp/playground/Shortcuts-test2.lyx...
13:59:54.679: svn info "Shortcuts-test2.lyx"
13:59:54.693: svn: warning: W155010: The node 
'/Users/stephan/tmp/playground/Shortcuts-test2.lyx' was not found.
13:59:54.693: 
13:59:54.694: svn: E29: Could not display info for all targets because some 
targets don't exist
13:59:54.705: Dokument ~/tmp/playground/Shortcuts-test2.lyx ist geöffnet.
13:59:54.706: (file-open: ⌃O)support/Systemcall.cpp (276): Systemcall: 'svn 
info "Shortcuts-test2.lyx"' finished with exit code 1
14:00:07.860: svn proplist "Shortcuts-test2.lyx"
14:00:07.877: svn: warning: W25: 
'/Users/stephan/tmp/playground/Shortcuts-test2.lyx' is not under version control
14:00:07.877: svn: E29: Could not display properties of all targets because 
some targets are not versioned
14:00:07.878: svn: E29: Illegal target for the requested operation
support/Systemcall.cpp (276): Systemcall: 'svn proplist "Shortcuts-test2.lyx"' 
finished with exit code 1
14:00:16.886: svn add -q "Shortcuts-test2.lyx"
14:00:16.984: svn info "Shortcuts-test2.lyx"
14:00:17.007: svn proplist "Shortcuts-test2.lyx"
14:00:17.024: Dokument ~/tmp/playground/Shortcuts-test2.lyx neu geladen.

Conclusion:

1. The working environment is LyX-2.3.6.2 and svn binary in path (verify it in 
terminal).
2. You may check and possibly update your LyX app.
3. You may activate the status message pane and redo the register VC command.

Stephan
-- 
lyx-users mailing list
lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users


Re: Need a little help with version control

2021-02-10 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
The 'ci not found' means it wants the RCS system to which ci belongs and
this is not installed, which can be rectified easily by homebrew.

For the rest, RTFM (Help --> Additional Features)

el


On 09/02/2021 14:01, list_em...@icloud.com wrote:
> I’m trying to learn version control (SVN) with LyX on macOS. I have a
> little past experience with SVn in another context and I’m in Chapter
> 2 of the book at svnbook.red-bean.com as a refresher.  I am the only
> person who will access the repository which is on my own computer.
> 
> I have set up new repository and imported three files, a LyX document
> and two graphics files.  (I am using a nice GUI app on the Mac).  I
> can check out the LyX document, edit it, and commit.  But what I can’t
> figure out is what is the LyX File -> Version Control -> Register item
> for?  I think it wants to add the current LyX file, which is assumed
> to be not under version control, to the repository.  But _what_
> repository?  I made a second LyX file named Registering.lyx and typed
> “Registering a document” into the dialog box.  Then I get this
> message:
> 
>  Some problem occurred while running the command:
> 'ci -q -u -i -t-"Registering a document" "Registering.lyx"'.
> 
> I think I am somehow am missing “Step 0” in setting things up.
> 
> Thanks as always for any hints.
> 
> Jerry
> 

-- 
To email me replace 'nospam' with 'el'


-- 
To email me replace 'nospam' with 'el'

-- 
lyx-users mailing list
lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users


Need a little help with version control

2021-02-09 Thread list_email
I’m trying to learn version control (SVN) with LyX on macOS. I have a little 
past experience with SVn in another context and I’m in Chapter 2 of the book at 
svnbook.red-bean.com as a refresher. I am the only person who will access the 
repository which is on my own computer.

I have set up new repository and imported three files, a LyX document and two 
graphics files. (I am using a nice GUI app on the Mac). I can check out the LyX 
document, edit it, and commit. But what I can’t figure out is what is the LyX 
File -> Version Control -> Register item for? I think it wants to add the 
current LyX file, which is assumed to be not under version control, to the 
repository. But _what_ repository? I made a second LyX file named 
Registering.lyx and typed “Registering a document” into the dialog box. Then I 
get this message:

 Some problem occurred while running the command:
'ci -q -u -i -t-"Registering a document" "Registering.lyx"'.

I think I am somehow am missing “Step 0” in setting things up.

Thanks as always for any hints.

Jerry
-- 
lyx-users mailing list
lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users


Re: Need a little help with version control

2021-02-09 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 09.02.2021 um 13:01 schrieb list_em...@icloud.com:
> 
> I’m trying to learn version control (SVN) with LyX on macOS. I have a little 
> past experience with SVn in another context and I’m in Chapter 2 of the book 
> at svnbook.red-bean.com as a refresher. I am the only person who will access 
> the repository which is on my own computer.
> 
> I have set up new repository and imported three files, a LyX document and two 
> graphics files. (I am using a nice GUI app on the Mac). I can check out the 
> LyX document, edit it, and commit. But what I can’t figure out is what is the 
> LyX File -> Version Control -> Register item for? I think it wants to add the 
> current LyX file, which is assumed to be not under version control, to the 
> repository. But _what_ repository? I made a second LyX file named 
> Registering.lyx and typed “Registering a document” into the dialog box. Then 
> I get this message:
> 
> Some problem occurred while running the command:
> 'ci -q -u -i -t-"Registering a document" "Registering.lyx"'.
> 
> I think I am somehow am missing “Step 0” in setting things up.
> 
> Thanks as always for any hints.

The problem with the "Register Item“ menu item is its missing cleverness. It 
assumes the RCS version control system. That’s why it is unusable with all 
other systems like SVN and GIT.

You have to register (add) it to your repository manually or with the help of 
your GUI. Later you’re able to work with the LyX version control features.

Stephan
-- 
lyx-users mailing list
lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users


Re: Version control system

2019-04-11 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
Ivan,

I assume you use a Mac from the look of the icons. If you use Windows, 
stop reading here :-)-O



What happens if you try something like

ci -l Title.lyx

from a command line?

Or even better

ci -u -i -t-"Register" "Title.lyx"

(leave the -q out)


Does a file 

Title.lyx,v

already exist?



I have been using RCS on the mac for many years, and for a single user
it is perfectly sufficient.  On the Mac it was included in the past, but
now (Mojave) has to install it manually from something like Homebrew.


What does 

realpath $(which ci)

return? 

Homebrew would return something like

/usr/local/Cellar/rcs/5.9.4_1/bin/ci


For collaboration something like GIT or SVN is much better, but the
required setup effort is also bigger.

greetings, el

On 11/04/2019 11:22, Baris Erkus wrote:
> On 11-Apr-19 12:06 PM, Иван Горюнов wrote:
> 
> Hello!
> 
> I have a trouble using VCS.
> 
> When I try to register document in VCS I get the following message:
> 
> [cid:part1.BC09EC10.EECC986B@hotmail.com]
> 
> I tried solution in this article:
> https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/VersionControlInstallationAndUsage
> 
> I have installed RCS, but it did not make any changes.
> 
> Then I tried to use git, like it is described:
> 
> "Using git
> 
> If you want to use git, then it is straight forward.  Just install git
> and create a repo in the folder of the LyX document.  LyX will then
> will detect that git repo and you will be able to check in and check
> out the document.  You even can use your cloud storage with git
> without having to check in the last change in you work PC."
> 
> 
> 
> Also no changes, still the same error (git client works ok, but I
> wanted some built-in solutinon for LyX).
> 
> I performed TeXLive installation described in this article:
> https://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/TeXLive
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Ivan Goryunov
> 
> Hello,
> 
> You are either making a small mistake or it does not work due to some
> bug in RCS. Git is totally independent from RCS and is a seperate VCS.
> If you are using Git, you do not need to use RCS.
> 
> In fact, Git is more powerful and bug-free than RCS, so I would highly
> recommend to use Git along with a GUI such as Sourcetree instead of
> RCS (you can use built-in Git toolbar but that does not track files
> -e.g. figures- other than the LyX file).  AFAIK, RCS is not actively
> maintained/developed anymore, it is outdated and has some bugs.  I
> have spent too much time on RCS, and it did not prove to be useful for
> my case at all.  So in my opinion: dump RCS and invest into Git.
> 
> Baris
> 
> --
> ↓↓
> Please bottom-post. Start your reply here:
> 



Re: Version control system

2019-04-11 Thread Baris Erkus
On 11-Apr-19 12:06 PM, Иван Горюнов wrote:

Hello!

I have a trouble using VCS.

When I try to register document in VCS I get the following message:

[cid:part1.BC09EC10.EECC986B@hotmail.com]

I tried solution in this article: 
https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/VersionControlInstallationAndUsage

I have installed RCS, but it did not make any changes.

Then I tried to use git, like it is described:

"Using git

If you want to use git, then it is straight forward. Just install git and 
create a repo in the folder of the LyX document. LyX will then will detect that 
git repo and you will be able to check in and check out the document. You even 
can use your cloud storage with git without having to check in the last change 
in you work PC."



Also no changes, still the same error (git client works ok, but I wanted some 
built-in solutinon for LyX).

I performed TeXLive installation described in this article: 
https://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/TeXLive


Best regards,
Ivan Goryunov

Hello,

You are either making a small mistake or it does not work due to some bug in 
RCS.  Git is totally independent from RCS and is a seperate VCS. If you are 
using Git, you do not need to use RCS.

In fact, Git is more powerful and bug-free than RCS, so I would highly 
recommend to use Git along with a GUI such as Sourcetree instead of RCS (you 
can use built-in Git toolbar but that does not track files -e.g. figures- other 
than the LyX file). AFAIK, RCS is not actively maintained/developed anymore, it 
is outdated and has some bugs. I have spent too much time on RCS, and it did 
not prove to be useful for my case at all. So in my opinion: dump RCS and 
invest into Git.

Baris

--
↓↓
Please bottom-post. Start your reply here:


Version control system

2019-04-11 Thread Иван Горюнов

Hello!

I have a trouble using VCS. 

When I try to register document in VCS I get the following message:


I tried solution in this article:  
https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/VersionControlInstallationAndUsage

I have installed  RCS, but it did not make any changes. 

Then I tried to use git, like it is described: 

" Using git
If you want to use git, then it is straight forward. Just install git and 
create a repo in the folder of the LyX document. LyX will then will detect that 
git repo and you will be able to check in and check out the document. You even 
can use your cloud storage with git without having to check in the last change 
in you work PC."


Also no changes, still the same error (git client works ok, but I wanted some 
built-in solutinon for LyX). 

I performed TeXLive installation described in this article:  
https://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/TeXLive


Best regards,
Ivan Goryunov

Re: Version Control -> Compare with Older Revision... Question

2018-05-10 Thread Joel Kulesza
On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 8:36 AM, Pavel Sanda <sa...@lyx.org> wrote:

> Joel Kulesza wrote:
> > Is there a way to bring these consistent so a user can clearly see which
> > commits are going to be compared?  I understand the ease associated with
> > the HEAD~N approach; however, can that information be put into the
> Version
> > Control Log?  Alternatively, could a Version Control Log-like text box be
> > added to the diff dialog and populated with "git log -N" according to the
> > "N" selected by the user?  This latter approach is likely (a) easier and
> > (b) more descriptive.
>
> What sounds relatively easy is to add one-line text field next to
> "Revision back: N" counter which contains the ouput of:
> git show --quiet --abbrev-commit --pretty=oneline HEAD~N
> which would be triggered for any value entered in the counter.


Even better!  I'll file that as a request.  Thanks!

- Joel


Re: Version Control -> Compare with Older Revision... Question

2018-05-10 Thread Pavel Sanda
Joel Kulesza wrote:
> Is there a way to bring these consistent so a user can clearly see which
> commits are going to be compared?  I understand the ease associated with
> the HEAD~N approach; however, can that information be put into the Version
> Control Log?  Alternatively, could a Version Control Log-like text box be
> added to the diff dialog and populated with "git log -N" according to the
> "N" selected by the user?  This latter approach is likely (a) easier and
> (b) more descriptive.

What sounds relatively easy is to add one-line text field next to 
"Revision back: N" counter which contains the ouput of:
git show --quiet --abbrev-commit --pretty=oneline HEAD~N
which would be triggered for any value entered in the counter.

Pavel


Re: Version Control -> Compare with Older Revision... Question

2018-05-10 Thread Joel Kulesza
On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 5:35 AM, Pavel Sanda <sa...@lyx.org> wrote:

> Joel Kulesza wrote:
> > Colleagues:
> >
> > I have a LyX document in a larger git repository that I wish to compare
> > with a previous commit.  Other than "counting back" commits, is there a
> way
> > to see precisely which two commits the LyX documents correspond to that
> are
> > being compared?
>
> If you mean sha of the commit then no, you would need to check log
> for the exact strings. In fact LyX internally does not deal with them,
> it just goes by HEAD~N pointers when reaching back to N-th commit in
> history...


Indeed, I meant the sha1sum hash.  A thought:

There is perhaps an inconsistency here: the LyX-internal Version Control
Log gives the standard `git log` output which is based only on the hashes.
The LyX-internal Compare with Older Revision is based only on HEAD~N
pointers.

Is there a way to bring these consistent so a user can clearly see which
commits are going to be compared?  I understand the ease associated with
the HEAD~N approach; however, can that information be put into the Version
Control Log?  Alternatively, could a Version Control Log-like text box be
added to the diff dialog and populated with "git log -N" according to the
"N" selected by the user?  This latter approach is likely (a) easier and
(b) more descriptive.

If any of these approaches (or another) sounds reasonable, I'll submit an
enhancement request.

Thank you,
Joel


Re: Version Control -> Compare with Older Revision... Question

2018-05-10 Thread Pavel Sanda
Joel Kulesza wrote:
> Colleagues:
> 
> I have a LyX document in a larger git repository that I wish to compare
> with a previous commit.  Other than "counting back" commits, is there a way
> to see precisely which two commits the LyX documents correspond to that are
> being compared?

If you mean sha of the commit then no, you would need to check log
for the exact strings. In fact LyX internally does not deal with them,
it just goes by HEAD~N pointers when reaching back to N-th commit in
history...

Pavel


Version Control -> Compare with Older Revision... Question

2018-05-09 Thread Joel Kulesza
Colleagues:

I have a LyX document in a larger git repository that I wish to compare
with a previous commit.  Other than "counting back" commits, is there a way
to see precisely which two commits the LyX documents correspond to that are
being compared?

I apologize in advance if I'm overlooking something totally obvious.

Thank you,
Joel


RE: RCS Version Control on Two Computers

2018-03-21 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 21 Mar 2018, Baris Erkus wrote:


How did you do it? Did you define the commands one-by-one? I guess, you
cannot see the difference between two files on LyX.


Baris,

  I have a local repository and when I'm done making changes (or stopping
for the day) I access the version control dialog (so far only checking in
changes) and entering a comment. I've not needed to check out a version, yet
using the menu command to check out a previous version to get the one
checked in on the other system _might_ do the trick.

Regards,

Rich


RE: RCS Version Control on Two Computers

2018-03-21 Thread Baris Erkus


> FWIW, I set up the git repository externally then use git commands within LyX.

How did you do it? Did you define the commands one-by-one? I guess, you cannot 
see the difference between two files on LyX.






Re: RCS Version Control on Two Computers

2018-03-21 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 21 Mar 2018, Rich Shepard wrote:


 FWIW, I set up the git repository externally then use git commands within
LyX.


  Then again, I run only linux.

Rich


Re: RCS Version Control on Two Computers

2018-03-21 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 21 Mar 2018, Baris Erkus wrote:


BTW, any future plans for incorporating Git commands into LyX? I can do it
externally, but would be great if it was placed in LyX.


Baris,

  FWIW, I set up the git repository externally then use git commands within
LyX.

Rich


RE: RCS Version Control on Two Computers

2018-03-21 Thread Baris Erkus
I found the answer by myself on the LyX wiki:

https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/VersionControlInstallationAndUsage#toc7

Version Control on the Cloud with RCS

Let’s assume this situation: you have to identical LyX installations with RCS 
on two different PCs, one at work and one at home. And you saved all your LyX 
files on your Box, dropbox or OneDrive. You want to be able to continue working 
at home after you leave your saved document at work. This can be done but not 
in a perfect way. What I mean is that you won’t be able to just have a version 
controlled document on one pc and use the same file on the other pc. What you 
have to do is check all changes on your work pc before leaving. When you go 
back home you have to check out the document and continue working. Note that 
won’t be able to keep the same history of version control on the file at work 
unless you do the check in/check out as I just described. If you save you 
document at work without checking them, then you lose all of these changes 
since you will have to check out the document at home to continue version 
control. This is an apparent bug in RCS and sadly it is the best thing 
available on Windows since LyX doesn’t yet fully support git.
(note: whoever is writting this I invite you to development mailing list. I do 
not exactly understand what your issue with RCS is, but we might be able to fix 
it. Pavel)


Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10


From: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> on behalf of Baris 
Erkus <bariser...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 9:11:19 AM
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: RCS Version Control on Two Computers

Hi,

I am working on a LyX document with RCS version control enabled.

I am working on the file during the day in my office on my office PC and in the 
evening on my home PC. I am using cloud to keep files.

I sometimes encounter that RCS gives an error. (I guess it is related with 
check-in check-out status, ready-only status and maybe other settings.)

[cid:image001.png@01D3C0F4.90C529F0]

What should I do to make RCS work on two PCs?

BTW, any future plans for incorporating Git commands into LyX? I can do it 
externally, but would be great if it was placed in LyX.

Thanks in advance,

Baris

Note: This is the fixed I found by myself:

When I check the “.lyx,v” file, I observe that the following header creates a 
problem. (I guess this header corresponds to checked-in status.)

head  1.8;
access;
symbols;
locks; strict;
comment@# @;

I check the header of fine-working RCS file and found that it is in the 
following format. (I guess this header corresponds to checked-out status.)

head  1.8;
access;
symbols;
locks
bariserkus:1.8; strict;
comment@# @;

If I replace the “locks; strict;”  portion with “locksbariserkus:1.8; 
strict;”, it works just fine.

Note that “1.8” is the version number and “bariserkus” is the author name.


RCS Version Control on Two Computers

2018-03-21 Thread Baris Erkus
Hi,

I am working on a LyX document with RCS version control enabled.

I am working on the file during the day in my office on my office PC and in the 
evening on my home PC. I am using cloud to keep files.

I sometimes encounter that RCS gives an error. (I guess it is related with 
check-in check-out status, ready-only status and maybe other settings.)

[cid:image001.png@01D3C0F4.90C529F0]

What should I do to make RCS work on two PCs?

BTW, any future plans for incorporating Git commands into LyX? I can do it 
externally, but would be great if it was placed in LyX.

Thanks in advance,

Baris

Note: This is the fixed I found by myself:

When I check the “.lyx,v” file, I observe that the following header creates a 
problem. (I guess this header corresponds to checked-in status.)

head  1.8;
access;
symbols;
locks; strict;
comment@# @;

I check the header of fine-working RCS file and found that it is in the 
following format. (I guess this header corresponds to checked-out status.)

head  1.8;
access;
symbols;
locks
bariserkus:1.8; strict;
comment@# @;

If I replace the “locks; strict;”  portion with “locksbariserkus:1.8; 
strict;”, it works just fine.

Note that “1.8” is the version number and “bariserkus” is the author name.


Re: Problem: version control suddenly no longer works in LyX 2.2 and 2.3rc1

2018-02-22 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
Pavel,


I didn't know that such a toolbar existed )-)-O More to explore :-)-O

Thank you.

el

On 21/02/2018 17:40, Pavel Sanda wrote:
> Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>> \rcsid{$Id: handbook.lyx,v 1.11 2017/08/12 18:20:59 el Exp $}
>>
>> \newcommand{\versionstring}{v\rcsfilerev,
>> \rcsfileyear-\rcsfilemonth-\rcsfileday}
>>
>> suitable for preamble and/or ERT, page styles or watermarks.
> 
> Do you know you can do such things natively in LyX? Version Control
> Toolbar->Insert Version Info and the select what you want in context
> menu.
> 
> Pavel
> 



Re: Problem: version control suddenly no longer works in LyX 2.2 and 2.3rc1

2018-02-21 Thread Pavel Sanda
Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
> \rcsid{$Id: handbook.lyx,v 1.11 2017/08/12 18:20:59 el Exp $}
> 
> \newcommand{\versionstring}{v\rcsfilerev,
> \rcsfileyear-\rcsfilemonth-\rcsfileday}
> 
> suitable for preamble and/or ERT, page styles or watermarks.

Do you know you can do such things natively in LyX?
Version Control Toolbar->Insert Version Info and the select what you want
in context menu.

Pavel


Re: Problem: version control suddenly no longer works in LyX 2.2 and 2.3rc1

2018-02-21 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
As I wrote,

for collaboration RCS is not good enough and I would also not use it.

Whether to use GIT or SVN, I defer to the experts and if GIT is
supported out of the box, so be it :-)-O

But, for my own use on the Mac with Time Machine and Unison (to
synchronize my machines at home and work) RCS is all I need.

el

On 21/02/2018 02:35, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Feb 2018 14:12:01 -0800 (PST) Rich Shepard
>  wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 21 Feb 2018, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe one can take the time to look at one of the already existing
>>> converters from RCS (CVS?) to SVN/GIT or whatever else LyX can
>>> handle, but to be honest, why bother?
>>
>> el,
>>
>>Even as a single user I've found git better suited to my needs
>>than svn.  Shrug.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rich
> 
> Git's the bomb.  If you're having your editor review your LyX doc,
> there could be two special paragraph styles that doesn't show up on
> the PDF: Query and Answer: Your editor queries you why you don't do
> something different, and you either answer "Agreed", or you say why
> you think it should stand.  The discussion might go another couple
> rounds.  If you both push and pull from the same Git repo, then you
> have a history of the whole thing, and a very easy way to collaborate.
> 
> SteveT
> 



Re: Problem: version control suddenly no longer works in LyX 2.2 and 2.3rc1

2018-02-20 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 20 Feb 2018 14:12:01 -0800 (PST)
Rich Shepard  wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Feb 2018, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
> 
> > Maybe one can take the time to look at one of the already existing
> > converters from RCS (CVS?) to SVN/GIT or whatever else LyX can
> > handle, but to be honest, why bother?  
> 
> el,
> 
>Even as a single user I've found git better suited to my needs
> than svn. Shrug.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Rich

Git's the bomb. If you're having your editor review your LyX doc, there
could be two special paragraph styles that doesn't show up on the PDF:
Query and Answer: Your editor queries you why you don't do something
different, and you either answer "Agreed", or you say why you think it
should stand. The discussion might go another couple rounds. If you both
push and pull from the same Git repo, then you have a history of the
whole thing, and a very easy way to collaborate.

SteveT


Re: Problem: version control suddenly no longer works in LyX 2.2 and 2.3rc1

2018-02-20 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 21 Feb 2018, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:


Maybe one can take the time to look at one of the already existing
converters from RCS (CVS?) to SVN/GIT or whatever else LyX can handle, but
to be honest, why bother?


el,

  Even as a single user I've found git better suited to my needs than svn.
Shrug.

Regards,

Rich





Re: Problem: version control suddenly no longer works in LyX 2.2 and 2.3rc1

2018-02-20 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
Rich,

half in jest :-)-O

RCS on an an existing file is better than no version control, or
starting a new version control with different software (on the same
document, and loosing all previous version control).

It also works for single users very well, I have a few documents with
includes all under RCS, and I use the rcs-multi package to generate
something like

\rcsid{$Id: handbook.lyx,v 1.11 2017/08/12 18:20:59 el Exp $}

\newcommand{\versionstring}{v\rcsfilerev,
\rcsfileyear-\rcsfilemonth-\rcsfileday}

suitable for preamble and/or ERT, page styles or watermarks.

On new files one can obviously take something modern, especially if one
collaborates.

Maybe one can take the time to look at one of the already existing
converters from RCS (CVS?) to SVN/GIT or whatever else LyX can handle,
but to be honest, why bother?



el

On 2018-02-20 15:49 , Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Feb 2018, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
> 
>> can you quickly hack up a converter for existing documents?
> 
> Eberhard,
> 
>   I don't understand what you're asking.
> 
>   When I want to track changes to a document I set up a git repository
>   in that document's subdirectory, external to lyx. Within LyX I use
>   File -> Version control (or the keyboard shortcuts) to commit
>   changes adding the explanatory text in the data entry widget without
>   quotes.
> 
> Rich
> 



Re: Problem: version control suddenly no longer works in LyX 2.2 and 2.3rc1

2018-02-20 Thread Rich Shepard

On Tue, 20 Feb 2018, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:


can you quickly hack up a converter for existing documents?


Eberhard,

  I don't understand what you're asking.

  When I want to track changes to a document I set up a git repository in
that document's subdirectory, external to lyx. Within LyX I use File ->
Version control (or the keyboard shortcuts) to commit changes adding the
explanatory text in the data entry widget without quotes.

Rich


Re: Problem: version control suddenly no longer works in LyX 2.2 and 2.3rc1

2018-02-20 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
Rich,

can you quickly hack up a converter for existing documents?

:-)-O

el

On 17/02/2018 15:40, Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Feb 2018, Pavel Sanda wrote:
> 
>> For the record, it turned out that High Sierra is no more compatible
>> with old RCS binaries (if you manually run co -l file.lyx you get
>> "Illegal instruction: 4").  Compiling RCS via homebrew fixed the
>> problem.
> 
> Pavel,
> 
>   If subversion, mercurial, or git are available for Macs they are
>   more modern than RCS. Have you considered them?
> 
> Rich
> 



Re: Problem: version control suddenly no longer works in LyX 2.2 and 2.3rc1

2018-02-17 Thread Pavel Sanda
Rich Shepard wrote:
>   If subversion, mercurial, or git are available for Macs they are more
> modern than RCS. Have you considered them?

I was solving someone-else's problem, so not my choice.

Anyway, more modern does not mean more appropriate.

RCS is most easy and one does not have to deal with repositories (I actually
prefer to use it for small-scale lyx documents myself). But the moment you need
to track pictures, bibliography etc, you need more powerful tool.  SVN is best
when you want collaborate and enforce locking for (childerns of) the document.
Git allows you to have easy local repo without any need of server hassle.
So it really depends what is the particular usecase...

Pavel


Re: Problem: version control suddenly no longer works in LyX 2.2 and 2.3rc1

2018-02-17 Thread Rich Shepard

On Sat, 17 Feb 2018, Pavel Sanda wrote:


For the record, it turned out that High Sierra is no more compatible with
old RCS binaries (if you manually run co -l file.lyx you get "Illegal
instruction: 4").
Compiling RCS via homebrew fixed the problem.


Pavel,

  If subversion, mercurial, or git are available for Macs they are more
modern than RCS. Have you considered them?

Rich


Re: Problem: version control suddenly no longer works in LyX 2.2 and 2.3rc1

2018-02-17 Thread Pavel Sanda
Pavel Sanda wrote:
> Busch, Andreas wrote:
> > I use GNU RCS 5.9.0 which appears to be the most recent, on a Mac with High 
> > Sierra (10.13.2) and LyX 2.2. Updating to LyX 2.3rc1 made no difference. I 
> > am not sure whether the last successful use of rcs with LyX predates 
> > upgrading to High Sierra, otherwise there were no changes to my setup.
> > 
> > Having checked the mailing list archive, I find no recent discussion of 
> > problems around rcs. If anyone has an idea where the cause of the error may 
> > be or any suggestions what else I should try I'd be very grateful!

For the record, it turned out that High Sierra is no more compatible with old 
RCS binaries (if you manually run co -l file.lyx you get "Illegal instruction: 
4").
Compiling RCS via homebrew fixed the problem.
Pavel


Re: Problem: version control suddenly no longer works in LyX 2.2 and 2.3rc1

2018-02-01 Thread Pavel Sanda
Busch, Andreas wrote:
> I use GNU RCS 5.9.0 which appears to be the most recent, on a Mac with High 
> Sierra (10.13.2) and LyX 2.2. Updating to LyX 2.3rc1 made no difference. I am 
> not sure whether the last successful use of rcs with LyX predates upgrading 
> to High Sierra, otherwise there were no changes to my setup.
> 
> Having checked the mailing list archive, I find no recent discussion of 
> problems around rcs. If anyone has an idea where the cause of the error may 
> be or any suggestions what else I should try I'd be very grateful!

First idea: change of username (rcs lock is saved under your login name).

Then looking at debug would be helpful:
1. View->Message Pane
2. Settings panel->Selected & "lyxvc - Version control"
3. Switch back to Output panel
4. run your erring command and check (post here) the message.

You can also play with the commands after "doVCCommandCall:"
msg on your own to check what is going on if you know how
to work with terminal/rcs.

Pavel


Problem: version control suddenly no longer works in LyX 2.2 and 2.3rc1

2018-01-30 Thread Busch, Andreas
Hi,

for years I have used LyX with version control (GNU rcs) on a number of 
documents which I regularly revise. It has proved very useful for that purpose.

Trying to check out one of these documents I ran into trouble yesterday, 
however. LyX threw up an unexplained error box indicating that trying to use co 
(checkout) had resulted in an error. All other attempts (rolling back the last 
check-in or trying to register a new document with rcs) also failed.

I use GNU RCS 5.9.0 which appears to be the most recent, on a Mac with High 
Sierra (10.13.2) and LyX 2.2. Updating to LyX 2.3rc1 made no difference. I am 
not sure whether the last successful use of rcs with LyX predates upgrading to 
High Sierra, otherwise there were no changes to my setup.

Having checked the mailing list archive, I find no recent discussion of 
problems around rcs. If anyone has an idea where the cause of the error may be 
or any suggestions what else I should try I'd be very grateful!

Thanks and best wishes,

Andreas


signature.asc
Description: Message signed with OpenPGP


Re: Version control

2018-01-03 Thread Ahmad Abdullah
Refer to this short tutorial


https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/VersionControlInstallationAndUsage


I recommend you use git instead of RCS

LyX wiki | LyX / 
VersionControlInstallationAndUsage<https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/VersionControlInstallationAndUsage>
wiki.lyx.org
RCS Installation on Windows. It is assumed that you have a successful 
installation of LyX and Latex (Tex Live or MiKTeX). In the following your LyX 
installation is ...




Best Regards,
Ahmad Abdullah

From: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> on behalf of Wolfgang 
Engelmann <engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de>
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 11:27:32 AM
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Version control


I want to edit a document in collaboration with a colleague and thought to use 
Version Control for this.

When I try to register in version control, I get this message

LyX Fehler der Versionskontrolle:

Bei der Ausführung des Befehls

'ci -q -u -i -t-"SP-Witte20160927WE" "SP-Witte20160926kh.20160927WE.lyx"' ist 
ein Fehler aufgetreten

I have not used it before and do not know what I did wrong. Can somebody give 
me a hint?

I use Debian and Lyx 2.2.1 (July 2016)

Thanks,

Wolfgang


Re: Version control

2018-01-03 Thread Ahmad Abdullah
However, you need to know something. LyX doesn't commit any new files or 
pictures other than the lyx text file to the git repo. If you want the full git 
support, you have to commit manually using any git software such as SourceTree.


Best Regards,
Ahmad Abdullah

From: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> on behalf of Pavel 
Sanda <sa...@lyx.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2018 5:44:55 AM
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: Version control

Rich Shepard wrote:
>   When checking in using git and the within-lyx function I do not need to
> add the quotation marks surrounding the message in the text entry widget.
> LyX adds them for me. Correct?

No you don't. Pavel


Re: Version control

2018-01-02 Thread Pavel Sanda
Rich Shepard wrote:
>   When checking in using git and the within-lyx function I do not need to
> add the quotation marks surrounding the message in the text entry widget.
> LyX adds them for me. Correct?

No you don't. Pavel


Re: Issues with version control

2018-01-02 Thread Pavel Sanda
Rich Shepard wrote:
>   I _thought_ I had set up version control using GIT. Checking in the
> document after adding text now generates an error (see attached .png).
>
>   Turns out that there was no .git repository in that directory, so I
> created one manually and will manually commit changes. Perhaps it's not
> working from the File -> Version control menu item?

You can not create git repository with LyX. You need to do it manually
and then simple git commands will work inside LyX.

If you try to put lyx file under version control in LyX, it will try to
use rcs by default, not git and that's the problem you see ('ci' command
is part of rcs as others already suggested.)

Pavel


Version control

2017-12-31 Thread Rich Shepard

  When checking in using git and the within-lyx function I do not need to
add the quotation marks surrounding the message in the text entry widget.
LyX adds them for me. Correct?

Rich


Re: Issues with version control

2017-12-25 Thread Rich Shepard

On Mon, 25 Dec 2017, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:


does 'ci' on the command line work?


el,

  It does with SVN but GIT uses commit instead of check in. My fingers do
the right thing and I mis-remembered when I wrote the message.

Apologies,

Rich


Re: Issues with version control

2017-12-25 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
Os,

does 'ci' on the command line work?

el

On 2017-12-25 02:08 , Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Dec 2017, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
> 
>> it seems to want to use ci (which means rcs)..
> 
> el,
> 
>   'ci' is also a git alias for 'commit' and works on the command line.
> Since I use git for my programming (python, grass, R, sql) saving versions
> using the CLI is fine with me.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Rich
> 


Re: Issues with version control

2017-12-24 Thread Rich Shepard

On Mon, 25 Dec 2017, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:


it seems to want to use ci (which means rcs)..


el,

  'ci' is also a git alias for 'commit' and works on the command line.
Since I use git for my programming (python, grass, R, sql) saving versions
using the CLI is fine with me.

Regards,

Rich


Re: Issues with version control

2017-12-24 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
Rich,

it seems to want to use ci (which means rcs)..

el

On 2017-12-24 00:36 , Rich Shepard wrote:
>   I _thought_ I had set up version control using GIT. Checking in the
> document after adding text now generates an error (see attached .png).
> 
>   Turns out that there was no .git repository in that directory, so I
> created one manually and will manually commit changes. Perhaps it's not
> working from the File -> Version control menu item?
> 
> Rich


Issues with version control

2017-12-23 Thread Rich Shepard

  I _thought_ I had set up version control using GIT. Checking in the
document after adding text now generates an error (see attached .png).

  Turns out that there was no .git repository in that directory, so I
created one manually and will manually commit changes. Perhaps it's not
working from the File -> Version control menu item?

Rich

Re: Version control - works

2016-09-28 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann

https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=lyx

there I have chosen Jessie ...


On 28.09.2016 10:03, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:

URL would be helpful :-)-O

el

On 2016-09-28 08:32, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

I have updated/installed the recommended additional packages related to
lyx in


 Download Page for lyx_2.1.2-2_amd64.deb on AMD64 machines


and now the Version control works.
Wolfgang

On 27.09.2016 18:27, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

I want to edit a document in collaboration with a colleague and
thought to use Version Control for this.

When I try to register in version control, I get this message

LyX Fehler der Versionskontrolle:

Bei der Ausführung des Befehls

'ci -q -u -i -t-"SP-Witte20160927WE"
"SP-Witte20160926kh.20160927WE.lyx"' ist ein Fehler aufgetreten

I have not used it before and do not know what I did wrong. Can
somebody give me a hint?

I use Debian and Lyx 2.2.1 (July 2016)

Thanks,

Wolfgang





Re: Version control - works

2016-09-28 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
URL would be helpful :-)-O

el

On 2016-09-28 08:32, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> I have updated/installed the recommended additional packages related to
> lyx in
> 
> 
> Download Page for lyx_2.1.2-2_amd64.deb on AMD64 machines
> 
> 
> and now the Version control works.
> Wolfgang
> 
> On 27.09.2016 18:27, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
>>
>> I want to edit a document in collaboration with a colleague and
>> thought to use Version Control for this.
>>
>> When I try to register in version control, I get this message
>>
>> LyX Fehler der Versionskontrolle:
>>
>> Bei der Ausführung des Befehls
>>
>> 'ci -q -u -i -t-"SP-Witte20160927WE"
>> "SP-Witte20160926kh.20160927WE.lyx"' ist ein Fehler aufgetreten
>>
>> I have not used it before and do not know what I did wrong. Can
>> somebody give me a hint?
>>
>> I use Debian and Lyx 2.2.1 (July 2016)
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Wolfgang
>>




Re: Version control - works

2016-09-28 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
I have updated/installed the recommended additional packages related to 
lyx in



   Download Page for lyx_2.1.2-2_amd64.deb on AMD64 machines


and now the Version control works.
Wolfgang

On 27.09.2016 18:27, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:


I want to edit a document in collaboration with a colleague and 
thought to use Version Control for this.


When I try to register in version control, I get this message

LyX Fehler der Versionskontrolle:

Bei der Ausführung des Befehls

'ci -q -u -i -t-"SP-Witte20160927WE" 
"SP-Witte20160926kh.20160927WE.lyx"' ist ein Fehler aufgetreten


I have not used it before and do not know what I did wrong. Can 
somebody give me a hint?


I use Debian and Lyx 2.2.1 (July 2016)

Thanks,

Wolfgang



Version control

2016-09-27 Thread Wolfgang Engelmann
I want to edit a document in collaboration with a colleague and thought 
to use Version Control for this.


When I try to register in version control, I get this message

LyX Fehler der Versionskontrolle:

Bei der Ausführung des Befehls

'ci -q -u -i -t-"SP-Witte20160927WE" 
"SP-Witte20160926kh.20160927WE.lyx"' ist ein Fehler aufgetreten


I have not used it before and do not know what I did wrong. Can somebody 
give me a hint?


I use Debian and Lyx 2.2.1 (July 2016)

Thanks,

Wolfgang



RE: RCS Version Control on Windows

2016-07-24 Thread Ahmad Abdullah



YES! I discovered that the hard way. I also created a wiki for that at 
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/VersionControlInstallationAndUsage


Best Regards, 
Ahmad Abdullah

> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 16:51:35 -0700
> From: sa...@lyx.org
> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> Subject: Re: RCS Version Control on Windows
> 
> Richard Heck wrote:
> > On 06/30/2016 07:10 PM, Ahmad Abdullah wrote:
> >> This is just a recap and for future reference ( I will include it in the 
> >> wiki as well). So it seems that I can only check in from Home only after I 
> >> checkout the last version I checked in at work. Meaning that, if I need to 
> >> be able to do version control at home on the same file, I must check in 
> >> all changes I made at work before going home or else I will lose all of 
> >> them because at home I have to check out the last successfully checked in 
> >> version before being able to do any version control. Even if I save my 
> >> changes at work without checking them in, I will lose all of them at home 
> >> because I have to check out the last successfully checked in version. This 
> >> is a weird bug in RCS as far as I see.
> >
> > RCS was a very early VCS, and it has a lot of shortcomings.
> 
> Actually in current LyX setup RCS is more feature rich than git and given
> it's storage simplicity it's often better alternative than git.
> 
> Things change if you want collaborate or store also figures.
> 
> Pavel

  

Re: RCS Version Control on Windows

2016-07-24 Thread Pavel Sanda
Richard Heck wrote:
> On 06/30/2016 07:10 PM, Ahmad Abdullah wrote:
>> This is just a recap and for future reference ( I will include it in the 
>> wiki as well). So it seems that I can only check in from Home only after I 
>> checkout the last version I checked in at work. Meaning that, if I need to 
>> be able to do version control at home on the same file, I must check in 
>> all changes I made at work before going home or else I will lose all of 
>> them because at home I have to check out the last successfully checked in 
>> version before being able to do any version control. Even if I save my 
>> changes at work without checking them in, I will lose all of them at home 
>> because I have to check out the last successfully checked in version. This 
>> is a weird bug in RCS as far as I see.
>
> RCS was a very early VCS, and it has a lot of shortcomings.

Actually in current LyX setup RCS is more feature rich than git and given
it's storage simplicity it's often better alternative than git.

Things change if you want collaborate or store also figures.

Pavel


Re: RCS Version Control on Windows

2016-07-24 Thread Pavel Sanda
Ahmad Abdullah wrote:
> Are
>  you saying that I can still check in and check out LyX documents using 
> File/Version Control menu if I use git? I am not aware of that at all. 

You might want to look at Help->Additional Features, section "Version Control 
in LyX".

Most probably too late since you already switched to git, but anyway - 
for your original problem, my guess is that you have different user name
at work and at home. LyX uses RCS in the way that only the same name which
locked the document can unlock it again. So if you have different username
it will choke on that.

Second problem might by that OneDrive does not correctly store read-only
flags of the files, which is for RCS/SVN critical because they use locking.

Pavel


Re: RCS Version Control on Windows

2016-06-30 Thread Richard Heck

On 06/30/2016 07:10 PM, Ahmad Abdullah wrote:
This is just a recap and for future reference ( I will include it in 
the wiki as well). So it seems that I can only check in from Home only 
after I checkout the last version I checked in at work. Meaning that, 
if I need to be able to do version control at home on the same file, I 
must check in all changes I made at work before going home or else I 
will lose all of them because at home I have to check out the last 
successfully checked in version before being able to do any version 
control. Even if I save my changes at work without checking them in, I 
will lose all of them at home because I have to check out the last 
successfully checked in version. This is a weird bug in RCS as far as 
I see.


RCS was a very early VCS, and it has a lot of shortcomings.

Richard






Best Regards,
Ahmad Abdullah


From: ahmad.abdul...@msn.com
To: kor...@lyx.org; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: RE: RCS Version Control on Windows
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 22:54:05 +

Actually I couldn't wait the whole week to try git. I installed git on 
my work pc, created a sample LyX file then created a git repo using 
the git client (the LyX document resides in a folder in my OneDrive 
and the .git folder repo is within this folder). Once I do this and 
open the document in LyX, LyX detects the version control. I added few 
more lines and checked in the new document. I then go back home and 
installed git to see if I can continue checking in to the document. So 
I open the document with LyX, add few more lines and then check in and 
Voila! It works. I even can check out and compare revisions. Note that 
I don't interact with git anymore after I setup the repo.
The limitation of this approach is that you have to set up the git 
repo before you can do version control on the document but I can live 
with that. It would be a neat solution, if LyX in future versions 
ships with git and enable the user to register the document in the 
background without the user leaving the program to create his own repo 
(basically a small script that calls git internally without the user 
having to interact with git directly). Anyway thanks you all so much 
specially Kornel for your help. I will definitely submit a wiki on that.



Best Regards,
Ahmad Abdullah


From: ahmad.abdul...@msn.com
To: kor...@lyx.org; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: RE: RCS Version Control on Windows
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 21:43:58 +


I will give this a trial this week and will tell you what happens.

Best Regards,
Ahmad Abdullah

> From: kor...@lyx.org
> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> Subject: Re: RCS Version Control on Windows
> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 23:05:58 +0200
>
> Am Dienstag, 28. Juni 2016 um 20:49:50, schrieb Ahmad Abdullah 
<ahmad.abdul...@msn.com>

> > Are
> > you saying that I can still check in and check out LyX documents 
using
> > File/Version Control menu if I use git? I am not aware of that at 
all.

> > If so, please point me to something that tells me how. I have heard
> > about the support for git in LyX but never found something that 
explains

> > the process.
>
> Provided you have a checkout from a git repo.
> From lyx you can open a file which is under git control.
> Then use e.g.
> File->Version Control->Show History
>
> > Best Regards,
> > Ahmad Abdullah
>
> Kornel




RE: RCS Version Control on Windows

2016-06-30 Thread Ahmad Abdullah
This is just a recap and for future reference ( I will include it in the wiki 
as well). So it seems that I can only check in from Home only after I checkout 
the last version I checked in at work. Meaning that, if I need to be able to do 
version control at home on the same file, I must check in all changes I made at 
work before going home or else I will lose all of them because at home I have 
to check out the last successfully checked in version before being able to do 
any version control. Even if I save my changes at work without checking them 
in, I will lose all of them at home because I have to check out the last 
successfully checked in version. This is a weird bug in RCS as far as I see. 

Best Regards, 
Ahmad Abdullah

From: ahmad.abdul...@msn.com
To: kor...@lyx.org; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: RE: RCS Version Control on Windows
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 22:54:05 +




Actually I couldn't wait the whole week to try git. I installed git on my work 
pc, created a sample LyX file then created a git repo using the git client (the 
LyX document resides in a folder in my OneDrive and the .git folder repo is 
within this folder). Once I do this and open the document in LyX, LyX detects 
the version control. I added few more lines and checked in the new document. I 
then go back home and installed git to see if I can continue checking in to the 
document. So I open the document with LyX, add few more lines and then check in 
and Voila! It works. I even can check out and compare revisions. Note that I 
don't interact with git anymore after I setup the repo. 
The limitation of this approach is that you have to set up the git repo before 
you can do version control on the document but I can live with that. It would 
be a neat solution, if LyX in future versions ships with git and enable the 
user to register the document in the background without the user leaving the 
program to create his own repo (basically a small script that calls git 
internally without the user having to interact with git directly). Anyway 
thanks you all so much specially Kornel for your help. I will definitely submit 
a wiki on that. 

Best Regards, 
Ahmad Abdullah

From: ahmad.abdul...@msn.com
To: kor...@lyx.org; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: RE: RCS Version Control on Windows
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 21:43:58 +




I will give this a trial this week and will tell you what happens. 

Best Regards, 
Ahmad Abdullah

> From: kor...@lyx.org
> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> Subject: Re: RCS Version Control on Windows
> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 23:05:58 +0200
> 
> Am Dienstag, 28. Juni 2016 um 20:49:50, schrieb Ahmad Abdullah 
> <ahmad.abdul...@msn.com>
> > Are
> >  you saying that I can still check in and check out LyX documents using 
> > File/Version Control menu if I use git? I am not aware of that at all. 
> > If so, please point me to something that tells me how. I have heard 
> > about the support for git in LyX but never found something that explains
> >  the process. 
> 
> Provided you have a checkout from a git repo.
> From lyx you can open a file which is under git control.
> Then use e.g.
>   File->Version Control->Show History
>   
> > Best Regards, 
> > Ahmad Abdullah
> 
>   Kornel

  

RE: RCS Version Control on Windows

2016-06-28 Thread Ahmad Abdullah
Actually I couldn't wait the whole week to try git. I installed git on my work 
pc, created a sample LyX file then created a git repo using the git client (the 
LyX document resides in a folder in my OneDrive and the .git folder repo is 
within this folder). Once I do this and open the document in LyX, LyX detects 
the version control. I added few more lines and checked in the new document. I 
then go back home and installed git to see if I can continue checking in to the 
document. So I open the document with LyX, add few more lines and then check in 
and Voila! It works. I even can check out and compare revisions. Note that I 
don't interact with git anymore after I setup the repo. 
The limitation of this approach is that you have to set up the git repo before 
you can do version control on the document but I can live with that. It would 
be a neat solution, if LyX in future versions ships with git and enable the 
user to register the document in the background without the user leaving the 
program to create his own repo (basically a small script that calls git 
internally without the user having to interact with git directly). Anyway 
thanks you all so much specially Kornel for your help. I will definitely submit 
a wiki on that. 

Best Regards, 
Ahmad Abdullah

From: ahmad.abdul...@msn.com
To: kor...@lyx.org; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: RE: RCS Version Control on Windows
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 21:43:58 +




I will give this a trial this week and will tell you what happens. 

Best Regards, 
Ahmad Abdullah

> From: kor...@lyx.org
> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> Subject: Re: RCS Version Control on Windows
> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 23:05:58 +0200
> 
> Am Dienstag, 28. Juni 2016 um 20:49:50, schrieb Ahmad Abdullah 
> <ahmad.abdul...@msn.com>
> > Are
> >  you saying that I can still check in and check out LyX documents using 
> > File/Version Control menu if I use git? I am not aware of that at all. 
> > If so, please point me to something that tells me how. I have heard 
> > about the support for git in LyX but never found something that explains
> >  the process. 
> 
> Provided you have a checkout from a git repo.
> From lyx you can open a file which is under git control.
> Then use e.g.
>   File->Version Control->Show History
>   
> > Best Regards, 
> > Ahmad Abdullah
> 
>   Kornel

  

RE: RCS Version Control on Windows

2016-06-28 Thread Ahmad Abdullah
I will give this a trial this week and will tell you what happens. 

Best Regards, 
Ahmad Abdullah

> From: kor...@lyx.org
> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> Subject: Re: RCS Version Control on Windows
> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 23:05:58 +0200
> 
> Am Dienstag, 28. Juni 2016 um 20:49:50, schrieb Ahmad Abdullah 
> <ahmad.abdul...@msn.com>
> > Are
> >  you saying that I can still check in and check out LyX documents using 
> > File/Version Control menu if I use git? I am not aware of that at all. 
> > If so, please point me to something that tells me how. I have heard 
> > about the support for git in LyX but never found something that explains
> >  the process. 
> 
> Provided you have a checkout from a git repo.
> From lyx you can open a file which is under git control.
> Then use e.g.
>   File->Version Control->Show History
>   
> > Best Regards, 
> > Ahmad Abdullah
> 
>   Kornel
  

Re: RCS Version Control on Windows

2016-06-28 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Dienstag, 28. Juni 2016 um 20:49:50, schrieb Ahmad Abdullah 
<ahmad.abdul...@msn.com>
> Are
>  you saying that I can still check in and check out LyX documents using 
> File/Version Control menu if I use git? I am not aware of that at all. 
> If so, please point me to something that tells me how. I have heard 
> about the support for git in LyX but never found something that explains
>  the process. 

Provided you have a checkout from a git repo.
From lyx you can open a file which is under git control.
Then use e.g.
    File->Version Control->Show History

> Best Regards, 
> Ahmad Abdullah

Kornel

signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part.


RE: RCS Version Control on Windows

2016-06-28 Thread Ahmad Abdullah
Are
 you saying that I can still check in and check out LyX documents using 
File/Version Control menu if I use git? I am not aware of that at all. 
If so, please point me to something that tells me how. I have heard 
about the support for git in LyX but never found something that explains
 the process. 

Best Regards, 
Ahmad Abdullah

> From: kor...@lyx.org
> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> Subject: Re: RCS Version Control on Windows
> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 22:38:19 +0200
> 
> Am Dienstag, 28. Juni 2016 um 20:07:52, schrieb Ahmad Abdullah 
> <ahmad.abdul...@msn.com>
> > I
> >  do include the whole document and its RCS repo in OneDrive, as matter 
> > of fact in the same folder. This is what is confusing me, if everything 
> > lives in the same folder, why
> > can't I do version control on a different PC? I have examined the 
> > MyDoc.lyx,v file and I don't see any trace for OS dependent variables.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Setting up a git account would be a less neat solution as I will lose the 
> > version control from within LyX. 
> 
> Why that? Lyx works well with git IMHO.
> 
> > Best Regards, 
> > Ahmad Abdullah
> > 
> 
>   Kornel
  

Re: RCS Version Control on Windows

2016-06-28 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Dienstag, 28. Juni 2016 um 20:07:52, schrieb Ahmad Abdullah 
<ahmad.abdul...@msn.com>
> I
>  do include the whole document and its RCS repo in OneDrive, as matter 
> of fact in the same folder. This is what is confusing me, if everything 
> lives in the same folder, why
> can't I do version control on a different PC? I have examined the MyDoc.lyx,v 
> file and I don't see any trace for OS dependent variables.
> 
> 
> 
> Setting up a git account would be a less neat solution as I will lose the 
> version control from within LyX. 

Why that? Lyx works well with git IMHO.

> Best Regards, 
> Ahmad Abdullah
> 

Kornel

signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part.


RE: RCS Version Control on Windows

2016-06-28 Thread Ahmad Abdullah
I
 do include the whole document and its RCS repo in OneDrive, as matter 
of fact in the same folder. This is what is confusing me, if everything 
lives in the same folder, why
can't I do version control on a different PC? I have examined the MyDoc.lyx,v 
file and I don't see any trace for OS dependent variables.



Setting up a git account would be a less neat solution as I will lose the 
version control from within LyX. 

Best Regards, 
Ahmad Abdullah

Subject: Re: RCS Version Control on Windows
To: ahmad.abdul...@msn.com; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
From: rgh...@lyx.org
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 13:42:16 -0400


  

  
  
On 06/28/2016 10:35 AM, Ahmad Abdullah
  wrote:



  
  

Hi all, 
This is my first email to this group. I
  generally find the
  online resources as well as LyX documentation very helpful.
  The only exception
  to this rule is when it comes to version control. It took me
  so much time to
  know how to install RCS on Windows. I basically followed the
  steps given in the
  LyX wiki on how to install RCS for a portable LyX
  installation. After I did
  that, I was able to do version control easily. I have
  identical installations
  at the PC at home and the one at work (work is windows 7 and
  home is windows
  10). 
Now my problem is actually that I use my
  OneDrive to save my
  LyX document. I use my OneDrive so I have access to the
  document both at work
  and at home. So here is a typical scenario I am facing: I am
  at work, saved the
  document on my OneDrive and then checked in all changes. After
  that I go back
  home, the problem arises. When I open the document I saved at
  work with the LyX
  installation at home, LyX at home doesn’t recognize the last
  check in that I
  committed at work and I still have to check in the last change
  (LyX at home
  says the document is not locked). So I try to check in the
  last change, and
  then LyX complains saying that “Some error happened while ci,
  can’t check in
  the document”. Basically what is happening I can’t check in
  any changes made at
  home to the same RCS repo (the MyDoc.lyx,v file) I
  created at work, i.e.,
  I have to save the document with a new name and start a new
  version control in
  it which means I will have to lose all history in the RCS
  repo; a bad idea obviously.

My question is whether any one saw this
  before. What should
  I do so that I can check in to same RCS repo both at home and
  at work without
  the need to re-save the same document over and over again.
  



This is a problem with RCS, not with LyX.



If I were you, I'd set up a free git account somewhere, e.g.,
gitlab, and use that. Then you don't need OneDrive or whatever. You
can push your changes to yout git account from home, then pull them
at work, and vice versa.



Alternatively, if you really want to use OneDrive, then you should
put the entire directory where your RCS repo lives on it.



Richard




  




Best Regards, 

Ahmad Abdullah
  


  

RE: RCS Version Control on Windows

2016-06-28 Thread Ahmad Abdullah
Sure, I will do it over the weekend. 

Best Regards, 
Ahmad Abdullah

> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 15:57:45 -0400
> From: skost...@lyx.org
> To: ahmad.abdul...@msn.com
> CC: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> Subject: Re: RCS Version Control on Windows
> 
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 02:35:30PM +, Ahmad Abdullah wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Hi all, 
> > 
> > This is my first email to this group. I generally find the
> > online resources as well as LyX documentation very helpful. The only 
> > exception
> > to this rule is when it comes to version control. It took me so much time to
> > know how to install RCS on Windows. I basically followed the steps given in 
> > the
> > LyX wiki on how to install RCS for a portable LyX installation. After I did
> > that, I was able to do version control easily. I have identical 
> > installations
> > at the PC at home and the one at work (work is windows 7 and home is windows
> > 10). 
> 
> Sorry for the wasted time, Ahmad. Now that you made progress, could you
> please help improve the Wiki? You can edit it and improve it for the
> next users with the same issue.
> 
> Scott
  

Re: RCS Version Control on Windows

2016-06-28 Thread Scott Kostyshak
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 02:35:30PM +, Ahmad Abdullah wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> This is my first email to this group. I generally find the
> online resources as well as LyX documentation very helpful. The only exception
> to this rule is when it comes to version control. It took me so much time to
> know how to install RCS on Windows. I basically followed the steps given in 
> the
> LyX wiki on how to install RCS for a portable LyX installation. After I did
> that, I was able to do version control easily. I have identical installations
> at the PC at home and the one at work (work is windows 7 and home is windows
> 10). 

Sorry for the wasted time, Ahmad. Now that you made progress, could you
please help improve the Wiki? You can edit it and improve it for the
next users with the same issue.

Scott


signature.asc
Description: PGP signature


Re: RCS Version Control on Windows

2016-06-28 Thread Richard Heck

On 06/28/2016 10:35 AM, Ahmad Abdullah wrote:


Hi all,

This is my first email to this group. I generally find the online 
resources as well as LyX documentation very helpful. The only 
exception to this rule is when it comes to version control. It took me 
so much time to know how to install RCS on Windows. I basically 
followed the steps given in the LyX wiki on how to install RCS for a 
portable LyX installation. After I did that, I was able to do version 
control easily. I have identical installations at the PC at home and 
the one at work (work is windows 7 and home is windows 10).


Now my problem is actually that I use my OneDrive to save my LyX 
document. I use my OneDrive so I have access to the document both at 
work and at home. So here is a typical scenario I am facing: I am at 
work, saved the document on my OneDrive and then checked in all 
changes. After that I go back home, the problem arises. When I open 
the document I saved at work with the LyX installation at home, LyX at 
home doesn’t recognize the last check in that I committed at work and 
I still have to check in the last change (LyX at home says the 
document is not locked). So I try to check in the last change, and 
then LyX complains saying that “Some error happened while ci, can’t 
check in the document”. Basically what is happening I can’t check in 
any changes made at home to the same RCS repo (the *MyDoc.lyx,v* file) 
I created at work, i.e., I have to save the document with a new name 
and start a new version control in it which means I will have to lose 
all history in the RCS repo; a bad idea obviously.


My question is whether any one saw this before. What should I do so 
that I can check in to same RCS repo both at home and at work without 
the need to re-save the same document over and over again.




This is a problem with RCS, not with LyX.

If I were you, I'd set up a free git account somewhere, e.g., gitlab, 
and use that. Then you don't need OneDrive or whatever. You can push 
your changes to yout git account from home, then pull them at work, and 
vice versa.


Alternatively, if you really want to use OneDrive, then you should put 
the entire directory where your RCS repo lives on it.


Richard




Best Regards,
Ahmad Abdullah




Re: RCS Version Control on Windows

2016-06-28 Thread tim
 

Have you tried making sure that the RCS archive is getting copied
across? If you're just transporting the lyx file then you will, of
course, not be getting the history in the archive. 

Can you find a cloud-based version control service (Github? -- I'm so
naive)? Your version control wouldn't be integrated with lyx, then, but
RCS is so old it creaks. 

On 2016-06-28 07:35, Ahmad Abdullah wrote: 

> Hi all, 
> 
> This is my first email to this group. I generally find the online resources 
> as well as LyX documentation very helpful. The only exception to this rule is 
> when it comes to version control. It took me so much time to know how to 
> install RCS on Windows. I basically followed the steps given in the LyX wiki 
> on how to install RCS for a portable LyX installation. After I did that, I 
> was able to do version control easily. I have identical installations at the 
> PC at home and the one at work (work is windows 7 and home is windows 10). 
> 
> Now my problem is actually that I use my OneDrive to save my LyX document. I 
> use my OneDrive so I have access to the document both at work and at home. So 
> here is a typical scenario I am facing: I am at work, saved the document on 
> my OneDrive and then checked in all changes. After that I go back home, the 
> problem arises. When I open the document I saved at work with the LyX 
> installation at home, LyX at home doesn't recognize the last check in that I 
> committed at work and I still have to check in the last change (LyX at home 
> says the document is not locked). So I try to check in the last change, and 
> then LyX complains saying that "Some error happened while ci, can't check in 
> the document". Basically what is happening I can't check in any changes made 
> at home to the same RCS repo (the MYDOC.LYX,V file) I created at work, i.e., 
> I have to save the document with a new name and start a new version control 
> in it which means I will have to lose all history in the RCS repo; a bad idea
obviously. 
> 
> My question is whether any one saw this before. What should I do so that I 
> can check in to same RCS repo both at home and at work without the need to 
> re-save the same document over and over again. 
> 
> Best Regards, 
> Ahmad Abdullah

 

RCS Version Control on Windows

2016-06-28 Thread Ahmad Abdullah


Hi all, 

This is my first email to this group. I generally find the
online resources as well as LyX documentation very helpful. The only exception
to this rule is when it comes to version control. It took me so much time to
know how to install RCS on Windows. I basically followed the steps given in the
LyX wiki on how to install RCS for a portable LyX installation. After I did
that, I was able to do version control easily. I have identical installations
at the PC at home and the one at work (work is windows 7 and home is windows
10). 

Now my problem is actually that I use my OneDrive to save my
LyX document. I use my OneDrive so I have access to the document both at work
and at home. So here is a typical scenario I am facing: I am at work, saved the
document on my OneDrive and then checked in all changes. After that I go back
home, the problem arises. When I open the document I saved at work with the LyX
installation at home, LyX at home doesn’t recognize the last check in that I
committed at work and I still have to check in the last change (LyX at home
says the document is not locked). So I try to check in the last change, and
then LyX complains saying that “Some error happened while ci, can’t check in
the document”. Basically what is happening I can’t check in any changes made at
home to the same RCS repo (the MyDoc.lyx,v file) I created at work, i.e.,
I have to save the document with a new name and start a new version control in
it which means I will have to lose all history in the RCS repo; a bad idea 
obviously.


My question is whether any one saw this before. What should
I do so that I can check in to same RCS repo both at home and at work without
the need to re-save the same document over and over again.



Best Regards, 
Ahmad Abdullah

Re: no export..save as..close-version control

2015-05-23 Thread Richard Heck

On 05/23/2015 12:07 PM, Eildert Groeneveld wrote:

Dear All

lately I am having an issue with lyx 2.1.3 on Ubuntu 15.04

Much of the pull down elements are shaded and can thus not be chosen.
Under the FILE tab I have only a few unshaded like open import but not
save, print, export and a few others.

I have found nothing on the web. After deleting the ~/.lyx file
everything looks fine, only to quickly revert back to its old state.


BTW, the keyboard shortcuts work.

Any idea what might be wrong?


This: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx/+bug/1430059

Richard



no export..save as..close-version control

2015-05-23 Thread Eildert Groeneveld
Dear All

lately I am having an issue with lyx 2.1.3 on Ubuntu 15.04

Much of the pull down elements are shaded and can thus not be chosen.
Under the FILE tab I have only a few unshaded like open import but not
save, print, export and a few others.

I have found nothing on the web. After deleting the ~/.lyx file
everything looks fine, only to quickly revert back to its old state.


BTW, the keyboard shortcuts work.

Any idea what might be wrong?

cheers

Eildert





no export..save as..close-version control

2015-05-23 Thread Eildert Groeneveld
Dear All

lately I am having an issue with lyx 2.1.3 on Ubuntu 15.04

Much of the pull down elements are shaded and can thus not be chosen.
Under the FILE tab I have only a few unshaded like open import but not
save, print, export and a few others.

I have found nothing on the web. After deleting the ~/.lyx file
everything looks fine, only to quickly revert back to its old state.


BTW, the keyboard shortcuts work.

Any idea what might be wrong?

cheers

Eildert





Re: no export..save as..close-version control

2015-05-23 Thread Richard Heck

On 05/23/2015 12:07 PM, Eildert Groeneveld wrote:

Dear All

lately I am having an issue with lyx 2.1.3 on Ubuntu 15.04

Much of the pull down elements are shaded and can thus not be chosen.
Under the FILE tab I have only a few unshaded like open import but not
save, print, export and a few others.

I have found nothing on the web. After deleting the ~/.lyx file
everything looks fine, only to quickly revert back to its old state.


BTW, the keyboard shortcuts work.

Any idea what might be wrong?


This: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx/+bug/1430059

Richard



no export..save as..close-version control

2015-05-23 Thread Eildert Groeneveld
Dear All

lately I am having an issue with lyx 2.1.3 on Ubuntu 15.04

Much of the pull down elements are shaded and can thus not be chosen.
Under the FILE tab I have only a few unshaded like open import but not
save, print, export and a few others.

I have found nothing on the web. After deleting the ~/.lyx file
everything looks fine, only to quickly revert back to its old state.


BTW, the keyboard shortcuts work.

Any idea what might be wrong?

cheers

Eildert





Re: no export..save as..close-version control

2015-05-23 Thread Richard Heck

On 05/23/2015 12:07 PM, Eildert Groeneveld wrote:

Dear All

lately I am having an issue with lyx 2.1.3 on Ubuntu 15.04

Much of the pull down elements are shaded and can thus not be chosen.
Under the FILE tab I have only a few unshaded like open import but not
save, print, export and a few others.

I have found nothing on the web. After deleting the ~/.lyx file
everything looks fine, only to quickly revert back to its old state.


BTW, the keyboard shortcuts work.

Any idea what might be wrong?


This: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx/+bug/1430059

Richard



Re: Problematic Version Control

2013-12-05 Thread Thomas Wirtz
Hi all together,

Thank you Murat and Stephan for your help!
Stephan got the Jackpot, you’re absolutely right! Now everything’s back to 
normal :)

Thank you very much

All the best
Thomas


Am 05.12.2013 um 07:58 schrieb Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net:

 Am 04.12.2013 um 23:46 schrieb Thomas Wirtz th...@gmx.li:
 
 Hi Murat,
 
 Thank your for your advice and your link.
 I can’t really say something about Xcode / Coda and if it affects the 
 version control system of LyX. I don’t use Git / SVN with Lyx - just the 
 regular VC: http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/VersionControl
 So it’s RCS.
 
 Fine to know, that LyX now supports Git / SVN. I will use that for future 
 projects, but of course now I would be really happy to recover my current VC 
 (RCS) .lyx,v file to have the full history back for use :)
 
 For the list, I added the two error messages to this e-mail:
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1625441/error1.jpg
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1625441/error2.jpg
 
 First error occurs when I try to „commit, and the second one when I try to 
 retrieve the history.
 
 
 Does this help?
 https://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg97282.html
 
 Stephan
 
 
 Am 04.12.2013 um 23:20 schrieb Murat Yildizoglu 
 murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr:
 
 Hi Thomas,
 
 I am not sure that I understand everything :-)  I am not a big VC user 
 myself, I am trying to get disciplined enough to be able to use it, but no 
 avail. But, I am more or less following the evolution of the softs, and 
 rather tempted to adopt git, now that Lyx can use it. 
 Unfortunately, I cannot directly answer your questions. But I have found 
 the following post by the editors of Coda, maybe their tricks could help 
 you if you end up by using SVN with Lyx:
 
 http://www.visuallizard.com/blog/2013/10/23/xcode-5-coda-2-and-svn
 
 I also send my answer to the list, probably someone else, more competent 
 than me could help you using the information you give below, in your 
 message.
 
 Please keep us informed if you locate the source and the solution of your 
 problem.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Murat
 
 
 
 
 2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz th...@gmx.li
 Hi Murat,
 
 Thanks for your quick reply.
 I’m using the native version control of Lyx which creates a .lyx,v file. So 
 I think this is not SVN but simple version control, right?
 Nevertheless I reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode some time ago 
 after Mavericks update - but when using SVN I am using the app „Versions“ 
 and for eclipse I’m using subclipse for SVN support.
 
 I don’t know if those information is helping you getting to know what went 
 wrong here - but is Lyx really using SVN for version control?
 
 
 Cheers,
 Thomas
 
 
 Am 04.12.2013 um 22:32 schrieb Murat Yildizoglu 
 murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr:
 
 Hi Thomas,
 Were you using  the SVN version that comes with Xcode? If yes, have you 
 reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode? They are suppressed during 
 the installation of Mavericks if I remember well. Their reinstallation  is 
 necessary if you need that SVN, or have not installed another one. If you 
 rather use Git, you can also install it yourself. Mavericks update has 
 deleted many things in my case (including the Oracle Java, for example).
 
 
 2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz th...@gmx.li
 Hi guys,
 
 I’ve a huge problem with my version control in an existing file and 
 noticed it now.
 There may be a connection to the Mavericks update on OS X, but I’m not 
 100% sure.
 I’ve posted some screenshots of my errors here: 
 http://latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19t=24217p=82332#p82332
 
 I receive the error on both 2.0.6 and 2.1beta2. 
 
 Can you tell me something about this error? How can I fix this?
 
 All the best,
 Thomas
 
 
 
 -- 
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
 
 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France
 
 Bureau : E-331
 
 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
 
 web: yildizoglu.info
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
 
 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France
 
 Bureau : E-331
 
 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
 
 web: yildizoglu.info
 
 



signature.asc
Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail


Re: Problematic Version Control

2013-12-05 Thread Thomas Wirtz
Hi all together,

Thank you Murat and Stephan for your help!
Stephan got the Jackpot, you’re absolutely right! Now everything’s back to 
normal :)

Thank you very much

All the best
Thomas


Am 05.12.2013 um 07:58 schrieb Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net:

 Am 04.12.2013 um 23:46 schrieb Thomas Wirtz th...@gmx.li:
 
 Hi Murat,
 
 Thank your for your advice and your link.
 I can’t really say something about Xcode / Coda and if it affects the 
 version control system of LyX. I don’t use Git / SVN with Lyx - just the 
 regular VC: http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/VersionControl
 So it’s RCS.
 
 Fine to know, that LyX now supports Git / SVN. I will use that for future 
 projects, but of course now I would be really happy to recover my current VC 
 (RCS) .lyx,v file to have the full history back for use :)
 
 For the list, I added the two error messages to this e-mail:
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1625441/error1.jpg
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1625441/error2.jpg
 
 First error occurs when I try to „commit, and the second one when I try to 
 retrieve the history.
 
 
 Does this help?
 https://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg97282.html
 
 Stephan
 
 
 Am 04.12.2013 um 23:20 schrieb Murat Yildizoglu 
 murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr:
 
 Hi Thomas,
 
 I am not sure that I understand everything :-)  I am not a big VC user 
 myself, I am trying to get disciplined enough to be able to use it, but no 
 avail. But, I am more or less following the evolution of the softs, and 
 rather tempted to adopt git, now that Lyx can use it. 
 Unfortunately, I cannot directly answer your questions. But I have found 
 the following post by the editors of Coda, maybe their tricks could help 
 you if you end up by using SVN with Lyx:
 
 http://www.visuallizard.com/blog/2013/10/23/xcode-5-coda-2-and-svn
 
 I also send my answer to the list, probably someone else, more competent 
 than me could help you using the information you give below, in your 
 message.
 
 Please keep us informed if you locate the source and the solution of your 
 problem.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Murat
 
 
 
 
 2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz th...@gmx.li
 Hi Murat,
 
 Thanks for your quick reply.
 I’m using the native version control of Lyx which creates a .lyx,v file. So 
 I think this is not SVN but simple version control, right?
 Nevertheless I reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode some time ago 
 after Mavericks update - but when using SVN I am using the app „Versions“ 
 and for eclipse I’m using subclipse for SVN support.
 
 I don’t know if those information is helping you getting to know what went 
 wrong here - but is Lyx really using SVN for version control?
 
 
 Cheers,
 Thomas
 
 
 Am 04.12.2013 um 22:32 schrieb Murat Yildizoglu 
 murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr:
 
 Hi Thomas,
 Were you using  the SVN version that comes with Xcode? If yes, have you 
 reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode? They are suppressed during 
 the installation of Mavericks if I remember well. Their reinstallation  is 
 necessary if you need that SVN, or have not installed another one. If you 
 rather use Git, you can also install it yourself. Mavericks update has 
 deleted many things in my case (including the Oracle Java, for example).
 
 
 2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz th...@gmx.li
 Hi guys,
 
 I’ve a huge problem with my version control in an existing file and 
 noticed it now.
 There may be a connection to the Mavericks update on OS X, but I’m not 
 100% sure.
 I’ve posted some screenshots of my errors here: 
 http://latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19t=24217p=82332#p82332
 
 I receive the error on both 2.0.6 and 2.1beta2. 
 
 Can you tell me something about this error? How can I fix this?
 
 All the best,
 Thomas
 
 
 
 -- 
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
 
 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France
 
 Bureau : E-331
 
 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
 
 web: yildizoglu.info
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
 
 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France
 
 Bureau : E-331
 
 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
 
 web: yildizoglu.info
 
 



signature.asc
Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail


Re: Problematic Version Control

2013-12-05 Thread Thomas Wirtz
Hi all together,

Thank you Murat and Stephan for your help!
Stephan got the Jackpot, you’re absolutely right! Now everything’s back to 
normal :)

Thank you very much

All the best
Thomas


Am 05.12.2013 um 07:58 schrieb Stephan Witt <st.w...@gmx.net>:

> Am 04.12.2013 um 23:46 schrieb Thomas Wirtz <th...@gmx.li>:
> 
>> Hi Murat,
>> 
>> Thank your for your advice and your link.
>> I can’t really say something about Xcode / Coda and if it affects the 
>> version control system of LyX. I don’t use Git / SVN with Lyx - just the 
>> regular VC: http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/VersionControl
>> So it’s RCS.
>> 
>> Fine to know, that LyX now supports Git / SVN. I will use that for future 
>> projects, but of course now I would be really happy to recover my current VC 
>> (RCS) .lyx,v file to have the full history back for use :)
>> 
>> For the list, I added the two error messages to this e-mail:
>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1625441/error1.jpg
>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1625441/error2.jpg
>> 
>> First error occurs when I try to „commit", and the second one when I try to 
>> retrieve the history.
> 
> 
> Does this help?
> https://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg97282.html
> 
> Stephan
> 
>> 
>> Am 04.12.2013 um 23:20 schrieb Murat Yildizoglu 
>> <murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr>:
>> 
>>> Hi Thomas,
>>> 
>>> I am not sure that I understand everything :-)  I am not a big VC user 
>>> myself, I am trying to get disciplined enough to be able to use it, but no 
>>> avail. But, I am more or less following the evolution of the softs, and 
>>> rather tempted to adopt git, now that Lyx can use it. 
>>> Unfortunately, I cannot directly answer your questions. But I have found 
>>> the following post by the editors of Coda, maybe their tricks could help 
>>> you if you end up by using SVN with Lyx:
>>> 
>>> http://www.visuallizard.com/blog/2013/10/23/xcode-5-coda-2-and-svn
>>> 
>>> I also send my answer to the list, probably someone else, more competent 
>>> than me could help you using the information you give below, in your 
>>> message.
>>> 
>>> Please keep us informed if you locate the source and the solution of your 
>>> problem.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Murat
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz <th...@gmx.li>
>>> Hi Murat,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your quick reply.
>>> I’m using the native version control of Lyx which creates a .lyx,v file. So 
>>> I think this is not SVN but simple version control, right?
>>> Nevertheless I reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode some time ago 
>>> after Mavericks update - but when using SVN I am using the app „Versions“ 
>>> and for eclipse I’m using subclipse for SVN support.
>>> 
>>> I don’t know if those information is helping you getting to know what went 
>>> wrong here - but is Lyx really using SVN for version control?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Thomas
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 04.12.2013 um 22:32 schrieb Murat Yildizoglu 
>>> <murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr>:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Thomas,
>>>> Were you using  the SVN version that comes with Xcode? If yes, have you 
>>>> reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode? They are suppressed during 
>>>> the installation of Mavericks if I remember well. Their reinstallation  is 
>>>> necessary if you need that SVN, or have not installed another one. If you 
>>>> rather use Git, you can also install it yourself. Mavericks update has 
>>>> deleted many things in my case (including the Oracle Java, for example).
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz <th...@gmx.li>
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve a huge problem with my version control in an existing file and 
>>>> noticed it now.
>>>> There may be a connection to the Mavericks update on OS X, but I’m not 
>>>> 100% sure.
>>>> I’ve posted some screenshots of my errors here: 
>>>> http://latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19=24217=82332#p82332
>>>> 
>>>> I receive the error on both 2.0.6 and 2.1beta2. 
>>>> 
>>>> Can you tell me something about this error? How can I fix this?
>>>> 
>>>> All the best,
>>>> Thomas
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
>>>> 
>>>> Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
>>>> GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
>>>> Avenue Léon Duguit
>>>> 33608 Pessac cedex
>>>> France
>>>> 
>>>> Bureau : E-331
>>>> 
>>>> mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
>>>> 
>>>> web: yildizoglu.info
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
>>> 
>>> Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
>>> GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
>>> Avenue Léon Duguit
>>> 33608 Pessac cedex
>>> France
>>> 
>>> Bureau : E-331
>>> 
>>> mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
>>> 
>>> web: yildizoglu.info
>> 
> 



signature.asc
Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail


Problematic Version Control

2013-12-04 Thread Thomas Wirtz
Hi guys,

I’ve a huge problem with my version control in an existing file and noticed it 
now.
There may be a connection to the Mavericks update on OS X, but I’m not 100% 
sure.
I’ve posted some screenshots of my errors here: 
http://latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19t=24217p=82332#p82332

I receive the error on both 2.0.6 and 2.1beta2. 

Can you tell me something about this error? How can I fix this?

All the best,
Thomas


signature.asc
Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail


Re: Problematic Version Control

2013-12-04 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
Hi Thomas,
Were you using  the SVN version that comes with Xcode? If yes, have you
reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode? They are suppressed during the
installation of Mavericks if I remember well. Their reinstallation  is
necessary if you need that SVN, or have not installed another one. If you
rather use Git, you can also install it yourself. Mavericks update has
deleted many things in my case (including the Oracle Java, for example).


2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz th...@gmx.li

 Hi guys,

 I’ve a huge problem with my version control in an existing file and
 noticed it now.
 There may be a connection to the Mavericks update on OS X, but I’m not
 100% sure.
 I’ve posted some screenshots of my errors here:
 http://latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19t=24217p=82332#p82332

 I receive the error on both 2.0.6 and 2.1beta2.

 Can you tell me something about this error? How can I fix this?

 All the best,
 Thomas




-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info


Re: Problematic Version Control

2013-12-04 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
Hi Thomas,

I am not sure that I understand everything :-)  I am not a big VC user
myself, I am trying to get disciplined enough to be able to use it, but no
avail. But, I am more or less following the evolution of the softs, and
rather tempted to adopt git, now that Lyx can use it.
Unfortunately, I cannot directly answer your questions. But I have found
the following post by the editors of Coda, maybe their tricks could help
you if you end up by using SVN with Lyx:

http://www.visuallizard.com/blog/2013/10/23/xcode-5-coda-2-and-svn

I also send my answer to the list, probably someone else, more competent
than me could help you using the information you give below, in your
message.

Please keep us informed if you locate the source and the solution of your
problem.

Best regards,

Murat




2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz th...@gmx.li

 Hi Murat,

 Thanks for your quick reply.
 I’m using the native version control of Lyx which creates a .lyx,v file.
 So I think this is not SVN but simple version control, right?
 Nevertheless I reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode some time ago
 after Mavericks update - but when using SVN I am using the app „Versions“
 and for eclipse I’m using subclipse for SVN support.

 I don’t know if those information is helping you getting to know what went
 wrong here - but is Lyx really using SVN for version control?


 Cheers,
 Thomas


 Am 04.12.2013 um 22:32 schrieb Murat Yildizoglu 
 murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr:

 Hi Thomas,
 Were you using  the SVN version that comes with Xcode? If yes, have you
 reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode? They are suppressed during the
 installation of Mavericks if I remember well. Their reinstallation  is
 necessary if you need that SVN, or have not installed another one. If you
 rather use Git, you can also install it yourself. Mavericks update has
 deleted many things in my case (including the Oracle Java, for example).


 2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz th...@gmx.li

 Hi guys,

 I’ve a huge problem with my version control in an existing file and
 noticed it now.
 There may be a connection to the Mavericks update on OS X, but I’m not
 100% sure.
 I’ve posted some screenshots of my errors here:
 http://latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19t=24217p=82332#p82332

 I receive the error on both 2.0.6 and 2.1beta2.

 Can you tell me something about this error? How can I fix this?

 All the best,
 Thomas




 --
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France

 Bureau : E-331

 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

 web: yildizoglu.info





-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info


Re: Problematic Version Control

2013-12-04 Thread Thomas Wirtz
Hi Murat,

Thank your for your advice and your link.
I can’t really say something about Xcode / Coda and if it affects the version 
control system of LyX. I don’t use Git / SVN with Lyx - just the regular VC: 
http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/VersionControl
So it’s RCS.

Fine to know, that LyX now supports Git / SVN. I will use that for future 
projects, but of course now I would be really happy to recover my current VC 
(RCS) .lyx,v file to have the full history back for use :)

For the list, I added the two error messages to this e-mail:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1625441/error1.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1625441/error2.jpg

First error occurs when I try to „commit, and the second one when I try to 
retrieve the history.


Cheers,
Thomas


Am 04.12.2013 um 23:20 schrieb Murat Yildizoglu 
murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr:

 Hi Thomas,
 
 I am not sure that I understand everything :-)  I am not a big VC user 
 myself, I am trying to get disciplined enough to be able to use it, but no 
 avail. But, I am more or less following the evolution of the softs, and 
 rather tempted to adopt git, now that Lyx can use it. 
 Unfortunately, I cannot directly answer your questions. But I have found the 
 following post by the editors of Coda, maybe their tricks could help you if 
 you end up by using SVN with Lyx:
 
 http://www.visuallizard.com/blog/2013/10/23/xcode-5-coda-2-and-svn
 
 I also send my answer to the list, probably someone else, more competent than 
 me could help you using the information you give below, in your message.
 
 Please keep us informed if you locate the source and the solution of your 
 problem.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Murat
 
 
 
 
 2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz th...@gmx.li
 Hi Murat,
 
 Thanks for your quick reply.
 I’m using the native version control of Lyx which creates a .lyx,v file. So I 
 think this is not SVN but simple version control, right?
 Nevertheless I reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode some time ago 
 after Mavericks update - but when using SVN I am using the app „Versions“ and 
 for eclipse I’m using subclipse for SVN support.
 
 I don’t know if those information is helping you getting to know what went 
 wrong here - but is Lyx really using SVN for version control?
 
 
 Cheers,
 Thomas
 
 
 Am 04.12.2013 um 22:32 schrieb Murat Yildizoglu 
 murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr:
 
 Hi Thomas,
 Were you using  the SVN version that comes with Xcode? If yes, have you 
 reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode? They are suppressed during the 
 installation of Mavericks if I remember well. Their reinstallation  is 
 necessary if you need that SVN, or have not installed another one. If you 
 rather use Git, you can also install it yourself. Mavericks update has 
 deleted many things in my case (including the Oracle Java, for example).
 
 
 2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz th...@gmx.li
 Hi guys,
 
 I’ve a huge problem with my version control in an existing file and noticed 
 it now.
 There may be a connection to the Mavericks update on OS X, but I’m not 100% 
 sure.
 I’ve posted some screenshots of my errors here: 
 http://latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19t=24217p=82332#p82332
 
 I receive the error on both 2.0.6 and 2.1beta2. 
 
 Can you tell me something about this error? How can I fix this?
 
 All the best,
 Thomas
 
 
 
 -- 
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
 
 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France
 
 Bureau : E-331
 
 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
 
 web: yildizoglu.info
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
 
 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France
 
 Bureau : E-331
 
 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
 
 web: yildizoglu.info



signature.asc
Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail


Re: Problematic Version Control

2013-12-04 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
Thomas,
I have never used RCS so I do not know what Lyx uses for this on Mac. But I
read on the Wiki the following (http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/VersionControl) :
LyX uses RCS http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/tichy91rcs.html in order to
implement version control. By default RCS is not installed on OS X (10.5 at
least). It is however part of Xcodehttp://developer.apple.com/tools/xcode/.


So, if you depend on the version installed by Xcode, and if Xcode 5 has
updated it to a new version, you could meet the same problems as the ones
met by the Coda people using SVN (the version 1.7 installed by Xcode is not
compatible with their repository created using an older version of SVN).
The version I have with Xcode 5.2 on my laptop is RCS version 5.7
You can check yours by executing rcs -V in Terminal.
I do not fully grok the messages in German, so I am just guessing here.
More people could maybe help you if you translate the messages to English,
I think.


2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz th...@gmx.li

 Hi Murat,

 Thank your for your advice and your link.
 I can’t really say something about Xcode / Coda and if it affects the
 version control system of LyX. I don’t use Git / SVN with Lyx - just the
 regular VC: http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/VersionControl
 So it’s RCS.

 Fine to know, that LyX now supports Git / SVN. I will use that for future
 projects, but of course now I would be really happy to recover my current
 VC (RCS) .lyx,v file to have the full history back for use :)

 For the list, I added the two error messages to this e-mail:
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1625441/error1.jpg
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1625441/error2.jpg

 First error occurs when I try to „commit, and the second one when I try
 to retrieve the history.


 Cheers,
 Thomas


 Am 04.12.2013 um 23:20 schrieb Murat Yildizoglu 
 murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr:

 Hi Thomas,

 I am not sure that I understand everything :-)  I am not a big VC user
 myself, I am trying to get disciplined enough to be able to use it, but no
 avail. But, I am more or less following the evolution of the softs, and
 rather tempted to adopt git, now that Lyx can use it.
 Unfortunately, I cannot directly answer your questions. But I have found
 the following post by the editors of Coda, maybe their tricks could help
 you if you end up by using SVN with Lyx:

 http://www.visuallizard.com/blog/2013/10/23/xcode-5-coda-2-and-svn

 I also send my answer to the list, probably someone else, more competent
 than me could help you using the information you give below, in your
 message.

 Please keep us informed if you locate the source and the solution of your
 problem.

 Best regards,

 Murat




 2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz th...@gmx.li

 Hi Murat,

 Thanks for your quick reply.
 I’m using the native version control of Lyx which creates a .lyx,v file.
 So I think this is not SVN but simple version control, right?
 Nevertheless I reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode some time ago
 after Mavericks update - but when using SVN I am using the app „Versions“
 and for eclipse I’m using subclipse for SVN support.

 I don’t know if those information is helping you getting to know what
 went wrong here - but is Lyx really using SVN for version control?


 Cheers,
 Thomas


 Am 04.12.2013 um 22:32 schrieb Murat Yildizoglu 
 murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr:

 Hi Thomas,
 Were you using  the SVN version that comes with Xcode? If yes, have you
 reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode? They are suppressed during the
 installation of Mavericks if I remember well. Their reinstallation  is
 necessary if you need that SVN, or have not installed another one. If you
 rather use Git, you can also install it yourself. Mavericks update has
 deleted many things in my case (including the Oracle Java, for example).


 2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz th...@gmx.li

 Hi guys,

 I’ve a huge problem with my version control in an existing file and
 noticed it now.
 There may be a connection to the Mavericks update on OS X, but I’m not
 100% sure.
 I’ve posted some screenshots of my errors here:
 http://latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19t=24217p=82332#p82332

 I receive the error on both 2.0.6 and 2.1beta2.

 Can you tell me something about this error? How can I fix this?

 All the best,
 Thomas




 --
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France

 Bureau : E-331

 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

 web: yildizoglu.info





 --
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France

 Bureau : E-331

 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

 web: yildizoglu.info





-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info


Re: Problematic Version Control

2013-12-04 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 04.12.2013 um 23:46 schrieb Thomas Wirtz th...@gmx.li:

 Hi Murat,
 
 Thank your for your advice and your link.
 I can’t really say something about Xcode / Coda and if it affects the version 
 control system of LyX. I don’t use Git / SVN with Lyx - just the regular VC: 
 http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/VersionControl
 So it’s RCS.
 
 Fine to know, that LyX now supports Git / SVN. I will use that for future 
 projects, but of course now I would be really happy to recover my current VC 
 (RCS) .lyx,v file to have the full history back for use :)
 
 For the list, I added the two error messages to this e-mail:
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1625441/error1.jpg
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1625441/error2.jpg
 
 First error occurs when I try to „commit, and the second one when I try to 
 retrieve the history.


Does this help?
https://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg97282.html

Stephan

 
 Am 04.12.2013 um 23:20 schrieb Murat Yildizoglu 
 murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr:
 
 Hi Thomas,
 
 I am not sure that I understand everything :-)  I am not a big VC user 
 myself, I am trying to get disciplined enough to be able to use it, but no 
 avail. But, I am more or less following the evolution of the softs, and 
 rather tempted to adopt git, now that Lyx can use it. 
 Unfortunately, I cannot directly answer your questions. But I have found the 
 following post by the editors of Coda, maybe their tricks could help you if 
 you end up by using SVN with Lyx:
 
 http://www.visuallizard.com/blog/2013/10/23/xcode-5-coda-2-and-svn
 
 I also send my answer to the list, probably someone else, more competent 
 than me could help you using the information you give below, in your message.
 
 Please keep us informed if you locate the source and the solution of your 
 problem.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Murat
 
 
 
 
 2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz th...@gmx.li
 Hi Murat,
 
 Thanks for your quick reply.
 I’m using the native version control of Lyx which creates a .lyx,v file. So 
 I think this is not SVN but simple version control, right?
 Nevertheless I reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode some time ago 
 after Mavericks update - but when using SVN I am using the app „Versions“ 
 and for eclipse I’m using subclipse for SVN support.
 
 I don’t know if those information is helping you getting to know what went 
 wrong here - but is Lyx really using SVN for version control?
 
 
 Cheers,
 Thomas
 
 
 Am 04.12.2013 um 22:32 schrieb Murat Yildizoglu 
 murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr:
 
 Hi Thomas,
 Were you using  the SVN version that comes with Xcode? If yes, have you 
 reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode? They are suppressed during the 
 installation of Mavericks if I remember well. Their reinstallation  is 
 necessary if you need that SVN, or have not installed another one. If you 
 rather use Git, you can also install it yourself. Mavericks update has 
 deleted many things in my case (including the Oracle Java, for example).
 
 
 2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz th...@gmx.li
 Hi guys,
 
 I’ve a huge problem with my version control in an existing file and noticed 
 it now.
 There may be a connection to the Mavericks update on OS X, but I’m not 100% 
 sure.
 I’ve posted some screenshots of my errors here: 
 http://latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19t=24217p=82332#p82332
 
 I receive the error on both 2.0.6 and 2.1beta2. 
 
 Can you tell me something about this error? How can I fix this?
 
 All the best,
 Thomas
 
 
 
 -- 
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
 
 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France
 
 Bureau : E-331
 
 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
 
 web: yildizoglu.info
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
 
 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France
 
 Bureau : E-331
 
 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
 
 web: yildizoglu.info
 



Problematic Version Control

2013-12-04 Thread Thomas Wirtz
Hi guys,

I’ve a huge problem with my version control in an existing file and noticed it 
now.
There may be a connection to the Mavericks update on OS X, but I’m not 100% 
sure.
I’ve posted some screenshots of my errors here: 
http://latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19t=24217p=82332#p82332

I receive the error on both 2.0.6 and 2.1beta2. 

Can you tell me something about this error? How can I fix this?

All the best,
Thomas


signature.asc
Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail


Re: Problematic Version Control

2013-12-04 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
Hi Thomas,
Were you using  the SVN version that comes with Xcode? If yes, have you
reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode? They are suppressed during the
installation of Mavericks if I remember well. Their reinstallation  is
necessary if you need that SVN, or have not installed another one. If you
rather use Git, you can also install it yourself. Mavericks update has
deleted many things in my case (including the Oracle Java, for example).


2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz th...@gmx.li

 Hi guys,

 I’ve a huge problem with my version control in an existing file and
 noticed it now.
 There may be a connection to the Mavericks update on OS X, but I’m not
 100% sure.
 I’ve posted some screenshots of my errors here:
 http://latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19t=24217p=82332#p82332

 I receive the error on both 2.0.6 and 2.1beta2.

 Can you tell me something about this error? How can I fix this?

 All the best,
 Thomas




-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info


Re: Problematic Version Control

2013-12-04 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
Hi Thomas,

I am not sure that I understand everything :-)  I am not a big VC user
myself, I am trying to get disciplined enough to be able to use it, but no
avail. But, I am more or less following the evolution of the softs, and
rather tempted to adopt git, now that Lyx can use it.
Unfortunately, I cannot directly answer your questions. But I have found
the following post by the editors of Coda, maybe their tricks could help
you if you end up by using SVN with Lyx:

http://www.visuallizard.com/blog/2013/10/23/xcode-5-coda-2-and-svn

I also send my answer to the list, probably someone else, more competent
than me could help you using the information you give below, in your
message.

Please keep us informed if you locate the source and the solution of your
problem.

Best regards,

Murat




2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz th...@gmx.li

 Hi Murat,

 Thanks for your quick reply.
 I’m using the native version control of Lyx which creates a .lyx,v file.
 So I think this is not SVN but simple version control, right?
 Nevertheless I reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode some time ago
 after Mavericks update - but when using SVN I am using the app „Versions“
 and for eclipse I’m using subclipse for SVN support.

 I don’t know if those information is helping you getting to know what went
 wrong here - but is Lyx really using SVN for version control?


 Cheers,
 Thomas


 Am 04.12.2013 um 22:32 schrieb Murat Yildizoglu 
 murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr:

 Hi Thomas,
 Were you using  the SVN version that comes with Xcode? If yes, have you
 reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode? They are suppressed during the
 installation of Mavericks if I remember well. Their reinstallation  is
 necessary if you need that SVN, or have not installed another one. If you
 rather use Git, you can also install it yourself. Mavericks update has
 deleted many things in my case (including the Oracle Java, for example).


 2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz th...@gmx.li

 Hi guys,

 I’ve a huge problem with my version control in an existing file and
 noticed it now.
 There may be a connection to the Mavericks update on OS X, but I’m not
 100% sure.
 I’ve posted some screenshots of my errors here:
 http://latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19t=24217p=82332#p82332

 I receive the error on both 2.0.6 and 2.1beta2.

 Can you tell me something about this error? How can I fix this?

 All the best,
 Thomas




 --
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France

 Bureau : E-331

 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

 web: yildizoglu.info





-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info


Re: Problematic Version Control

2013-12-04 Thread Thomas Wirtz
Hi Murat,

Thank your for your advice and your link.
I can’t really say something about Xcode / Coda and if it affects the version 
control system of LyX. I don’t use Git / SVN with Lyx - just the regular VC: 
http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/VersionControl
So it’s RCS.

Fine to know, that LyX now supports Git / SVN. I will use that for future 
projects, but of course now I would be really happy to recover my current VC 
(RCS) .lyx,v file to have the full history back for use :)

For the list, I added the two error messages to this e-mail:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1625441/error1.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1625441/error2.jpg

First error occurs when I try to „commit, and the second one when I try to 
retrieve the history.


Cheers,
Thomas


Am 04.12.2013 um 23:20 schrieb Murat Yildizoglu 
murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr:

 Hi Thomas,
 
 I am not sure that I understand everything :-)  I am not a big VC user 
 myself, I am trying to get disciplined enough to be able to use it, but no 
 avail. But, I am more or less following the evolution of the softs, and 
 rather tempted to adopt git, now that Lyx can use it. 
 Unfortunately, I cannot directly answer your questions. But I have found the 
 following post by the editors of Coda, maybe their tricks could help you if 
 you end up by using SVN with Lyx:
 
 http://www.visuallizard.com/blog/2013/10/23/xcode-5-coda-2-and-svn
 
 I also send my answer to the list, probably someone else, more competent than 
 me could help you using the information you give below, in your message.
 
 Please keep us informed if you locate the source and the solution of your 
 problem.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Murat
 
 
 
 
 2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz th...@gmx.li
 Hi Murat,
 
 Thanks for your quick reply.
 I’m using the native version control of Lyx which creates a .lyx,v file. So I 
 think this is not SVN but simple version control, right?
 Nevertheless I reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode some time ago 
 after Mavericks update - but when using SVN I am using the app „Versions“ and 
 for eclipse I’m using subclipse for SVN support.
 
 I don’t know if those information is helping you getting to know what went 
 wrong here - but is Lyx really using SVN for version control?
 
 
 Cheers,
 Thomas
 
 
 Am 04.12.2013 um 22:32 schrieb Murat Yildizoglu 
 murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr:
 
 Hi Thomas,
 Were you using  the SVN version that comes with Xcode? If yes, have you 
 reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode? They are suppressed during the 
 installation of Mavericks if I remember well. Their reinstallation  is 
 necessary if you need that SVN, or have not installed another one. If you 
 rather use Git, you can also install it yourself. Mavericks update has 
 deleted many things in my case (including the Oracle Java, for example).
 
 
 2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz th...@gmx.li
 Hi guys,
 
 I’ve a huge problem with my version control in an existing file and noticed 
 it now.
 There may be a connection to the Mavericks update on OS X, but I’m not 100% 
 sure.
 I’ve posted some screenshots of my errors here: 
 http://latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19t=24217p=82332#p82332
 
 I receive the error on both 2.0.6 and 2.1beta2. 
 
 Can you tell me something about this error? How can I fix this?
 
 All the best,
 Thomas
 
 
 
 -- 
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
 
 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France
 
 Bureau : E-331
 
 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
 
 web: yildizoglu.info
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
 
 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France
 
 Bureau : E-331
 
 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
 
 web: yildizoglu.info



signature.asc
Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail


Re: Problematic Version Control

2013-12-04 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
Thomas,
I have never used RCS so I do not know what Lyx uses for this on Mac. But I
read on the Wiki the following (http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/VersionControl) :
LyX uses RCS http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/tichy91rcs.html in order to
implement version control. By default RCS is not installed on OS X (10.5 at
least). It is however part of Xcodehttp://developer.apple.com/tools/xcode/.


So, if you depend on the version installed by Xcode, and if Xcode 5 has
updated it to a new version, you could meet the same problems as the ones
met by the Coda people using SVN (the version 1.7 installed by Xcode is not
compatible with their repository created using an older version of SVN).
The version I have with Xcode 5.2 on my laptop is RCS version 5.7
You can check yours by executing rcs -V in Terminal.
I do not fully grok the messages in German, so I am just guessing here.
More people could maybe help you if you translate the messages to English,
I think.


2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz th...@gmx.li

 Hi Murat,

 Thank your for your advice and your link.
 I can’t really say something about Xcode / Coda and if it affects the
 version control system of LyX. I don’t use Git / SVN with Lyx - just the
 regular VC: http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/VersionControl
 So it’s RCS.

 Fine to know, that LyX now supports Git / SVN. I will use that for future
 projects, but of course now I would be really happy to recover my current
 VC (RCS) .lyx,v file to have the full history back for use :)

 For the list, I added the two error messages to this e-mail:
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1625441/error1.jpg
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1625441/error2.jpg

 First error occurs when I try to „commit, and the second one when I try
 to retrieve the history.


 Cheers,
 Thomas


 Am 04.12.2013 um 23:20 schrieb Murat Yildizoglu 
 murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr:

 Hi Thomas,

 I am not sure that I understand everything :-)  I am not a big VC user
 myself, I am trying to get disciplined enough to be able to use it, but no
 avail. But, I am more or less following the evolution of the softs, and
 rather tempted to adopt git, now that Lyx can use it.
 Unfortunately, I cannot directly answer your questions. But I have found
 the following post by the editors of Coda, maybe their tricks could help
 you if you end up by using SVN with Lyx:

 http://www.visuallizard.com/blog/2013/10/23/xcode-5-coda-2-and-svn

 I also send my answer to the list, probably someone else, more competent
 than me could help you using the information you give below, in your
 message.

 Please keep us informed if you locate the source and the solution of your
 problem.

 Best regards,

 Murat




 2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz th...@gmx.li

 Hi Murat,

 Thanks for your quick reply.
 I’m using the native version control of Lyx which creates a .lyx,v file.
 So I think this is not SVN but simple version control, right?
 Nevertheless I reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode some time ago
 after Mavericks update - but when using SVN I am using the app „Versions“
 and for eclipse I’m using subclipse for SVN support.

 I don’t know if those information is helping you getting to know what
 went wrong here - but is Lyx really using SVN for version control?


 Cheers,
 Thomas


 Am 04.12.2013 um 22:32 schrieb Murat Yildizoglu 
 murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr:

 Hi Thomas,
 Were you using  the SVN version that comes with Xcode? If yes, have you
 reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode? They are suppressed during the
 installation of Mavericks if I remember well. Their reinstallation  is
 necessary if you need that SVN, or have not installed another one. If you
 rather use Git, you can also install it yourself. Mavericks update has
 deleted many things in my case (including the Oracle Java, for example).


 2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz th...@gmx.li

 Hi guys,

 I’ve a huge problem with my version control in an existing file and
 noticed it now.
 There may be a connection to the Mavericks update on OS X, but I’m not
 100% sure.
 I’ve posted some screenshots of my errors here:
 http://latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19t=24217p=82332#p82332

 I receive the error on both 2.0.6 and 2.1beta2.

 Can you tell me something about this error? How can I fix this?

 All the best,
 Thomas




 --
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France

 Bureau : E-331

 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

 web: yildizoglu.info





 --
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France

 Bureau : E-331

 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

 web: yildizoglu.info





-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info


Re: Problematic Version Control

2013-12-04 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 04.12.2013 um 23:46 schrieb Thomas Wirtz th...@gmx.li:

 Hi Murat,
 
 Thank your for your advice and your link.
 I can’t really say something about Xcode / Coda and if it affects the version 
 control system of LyX. I don’t use Git / SVN with Lyx - just the regular VC: 
 http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/VersionControl
 So it’s RCS.
 
 Fine to know, that LyX now supports Git / SVN. I will use that for future 
 projects, but of course now I would be really happy to recover my current VC 
 (RCS) .lyx,v file to have the full history back for use :)
 
 For the list, I added the two error messages to this e-mail:
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1625441/error1.jpg
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1625441/error2.jpg
 
 First error occurs when I try to „commit, and the second one when I try to 
 retrieve the history.


Does this help?
https://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg97282.html

Stephan

 
 Am 04.12.2013 um 23:20 schrieb Murat Yildizoglu 
 murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr:
 
 Hi Thomas,
 
 I am not sure that I understand everything :-)  I am not a big VC user 
 myself, I am trying to get disciplined enough to be able to use it, but no 
 avail. But, I am more or less following the evolution of the softs, and 
 rather tempted to adopt git, now that Lyx can use it. 
 Unfortunately, I cannot directly answer your questions. But I have found the 
 following post by the editors of Coda, maybe their tricks could help you if 
 you end up by using SVN with Lyx:
 
 http://www.visuallizard.com/blog/2013/10/23/xcode-5-coda-2-and-svn
 
 I also send my answer to the list, probably someone else, more competent 
 than me could help you using the information you give below, in your message.
 
 Please keep us informed if you locate the source and the solution of your 
 problem.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Murat
 
 
 
 
 2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz th...@gmx.li
 Hi Murat,
 
 Thanks for your quick reply.
 I’m using the native version control of Lyx which creates a .lyx,v file. So 
 I think this is not SVN but simple version control, right?
 Nevertheless I reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode some time ago 
 after Mavericks update - but when using SVN I am using the app „Versions“ 
 and for eclipse I’m using subclipse for SVN support.
 
 I don’t know if those information is helping you getting to know what went 
 wrong here - but is Lyx really using SVN for version control?
 
 
 Cheers,
 Thomas
 
 
 Am 04.12.2013 um 22:32 schrieb Murat Yildizoglu 
 murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr:
 
 Hi Thomas,
 Were you using  the SVN version that comes with Xcode? If yes, have you 
 reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode? They are suppressed during the 
 installation of Mavericks if I remember well. Their reinstallation  is 
 necessary if you need that SVN, or have not installed another one. If you 
 rather use Git, you can also install it yourself. Mavericks update has 
 deleted many things in my case (including the Oracle Java, for example).
 
 
 2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz th...@gmx.li
 Hi guys,
 
 I’ve a huge problem with my version control in an existing file and noticed 
 it now.
 There may be a connection to the Mavericks update on OS X, but I’m not 100% 
 sure.
 I’ve posted some screenshots of my errors here: 
 http://latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19t=24217p=82332#p82332
 
 I receive the error on both 2.0.6 and 2.1beta2. 
 
 Can you tell me something about this error? How can I fix this?
 
 All the best,
 Thomas
 
 
 
 -- 
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
 
 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France
 
 Bureau : E-331
 
 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
 
 web: yildizoglu.info
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
 
 Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
 GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
 Avenue Léon Duguit
 33608 Pessac cedex
 France
 
 Bureau : E-331
 
 mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
 
 web: yildizoglu.info
 



Problematic Version Control

2013-12-04 Thread Thomas Wirtz
Hi guys,

I’ve a huge problem with my version control in an existing file and noticed it 
now.
There may be a connection to the Mavericks update on OS X, but I’m not 100% 
sure.
I’ve posted some screenshots of my errors here: 
http://latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19=24217=82332#p82332

I receive the error on both 2.0.6 and 2.1beta2. 

Can you tell me something about this error? How can I fix this?

All the best,
Thomas


signature.asc
Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail


Re: Problematic Version Control

2013-12-04 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
Hi Thomas,
Were you using  the SVN version that comes with Xcode? If yes, have you
reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode? They are suppressed during the
installation of Mavericks if I remember well. Their reinstallation  is
necessary if you need that SVN, or have not installed another one. If you
rather use Git, you can also install it yourself. Mavericks update has
deleted many things in my case (including the Oracle Java, for example).


2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz <th...@gmx.li>

> Hi guys,
>
> I’ve a huge problem with my version control in an existing file and
> noticed it now.
> There may be a connection to the Mavericks update on OS X, but I’m not
> 100% sure.
> I’ve posted some screenshots of my errors here:
> http://latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19=24217=82332#p82332
>
> I receive the error on both 2.0.6 and 2.1beta2.
>
> Can you tell me something about this error? How can I fix this?
>
> All the best,
> Thomas
>



-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info


Re: Problematic Version Control

2013-12-04 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
Hi Thomas,

I am not sure that I understand everything :-)  I am not a big VC user
myself, I am trying to get disciplined enough to be able to use it, but no
avail. But, I am more or less following the evolution of the softs, and
rather tempted to adopt git, now that Lyx can use it.
Unfortunately, I cannot directly answer your questions. But I have found
the following post by the editors of Coda, maybe their tricks could help
you if you end up by using SVN with Lyx:

http://www.visuallizard.com/blog/2013/10/23/xcode-5-coda-2-and-svn

I also send my answer to the list, probably someone else, more competent
than me could help you using the information you give below, in your
message.

Please keep us informed if you locate the source and the solution of your
problem.

Best regards,

Murat




2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz <th...@gmx.li>

> Hi Murat,
>
> Thanks for your quick reply.
> I’m using the native version control of Lyx which creates a .lyx,v file.
> So I think this is not SVN but simple version control, right?
> Nevertheless I reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode some time ago
> after Mavericks update - but when using SVN I am using the app „Versions“
> and for eclipse I’m using subclipse for SVN support.
>
> I don’t know if those information is helping you getting to know what went
> wrong here - but is Lyx really using SVN for version control?
>
>
> Cheers,
> Thomas
>
>
> Am 04.12.2013 um 22:32 schrieb Murat Yildizoglu <
> murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr>:
>
> Hi Thomas,
> Were you using  the SVN version that comes with Xcode? If yes, have you
> reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode? They are suppressed during the
> installation of Mavericks if I remember well. Their reinstallation  is
> necessary if you need that SVN, or have not installed another one. If you
> rather use Git, you can also install it yourself. Mavericks update has
> deleted many things in my case (including the Oracle Java, for example).
>
>
> 2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz <th...@gmx.li>
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I’ve a huge problem with my version control in an existing file and
>> noticed it now.
>> There may be a connection to the Mavericks update on OS X, but I’m not
>> 100% sure.
>> I’ve posted some screenshots of my errors here:
>> http://latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19=24217=82332#p82332
>>
>> I receive the error on both 2.0.6 and 2.1beta2.
>>
>> Can you tell me something about this error? How can I fix this?
>>
>> All the best,
>> Thomas
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
>
> Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
> GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
> Avenue Léon Duguit
> 33608 Pessac cedex
> France
>
> Bureau : E-331
>
> mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
>
> web: yildizoglu.info
>
>
>


-- 
Prof. Murat Yildizoglu

Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV
GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
Avenue Léon Duguit
33608 Pessac cedex
France

Bureau : E-331

mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr

web: yildizoglu.info


Re: Problematic Version Control

2013-12-04 Thread Thomas Wirtz
Hi Murat,

Thank your for your advice and your link.
I can’t really say something about Xcode / Coda and if it affects the version 
control system of LyX. I don’t use Git / SVN with Lyx - just the regular VC: 
http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/VersionControl
So it’s RCS.

Fine to know, that LyX now supports Git / SVN. I will use that for future 
projects, but of course now I would be really happy to recover my current VC 
(RCS) .lyx,v file to have the full history back for use :)

For the list, I added the two error messages to this e-mail:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1625441/error1.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1625441/error2.jpg

First error occurs when I try to „commit", and the second one when I try to 
retrieve the history.


Cheers,
Thomas


Am 04.12.2013 um 23:20 schrieb Murat Yildizoglu 
<murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr>:

> Hi Thomas,
> 
> I am not sure that I understand everything :-)  I am not a big VC user 
> myself, I am trying to get disciplined enough to be able to use it, but no 
> avail. But, I am more or less following the evolution of the softs, and 
> rather tempted to adopt git, now that Lyx can use it. 
> Unfortunately, I cannot directly answer your questions. But I have found the 
> following post by the editors of Coda, maybe their tricks could help you if 
> you end up by using SVN with Lyx:
> 
> http://www.visuallizard.com/blog/2013/10/23/xcode-5-coda-2-and-svn
> 
> I also send my answer to the list, probably someone else, more competent than 
> me could help you using the information you give below, in your message.
> 
> Please keep us informed if you locate the source and the solution of your 
> problem.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Murat
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz <th...@gmx.li>
> Hi Murat,
> 
> Thanks for your quick reply.
> I’m using the native version control of Lyx which creates a .lyx,v file. So I 
> think this is not SVN but simple version control, right?
> Nevertheless I reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode some time ago 
> after Mavericks update - but when using SVN I am using the app „Versions“ and 
> for eclipse I’m using subclipse for SVN support.
> 
> I don’t know if those information is helping you getting to know what went 
> wrong here - but is Lyx really using SVN for version control?
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Thomas
> 
> 
> Am 04.12.2013 um 22:32 schrieb Murat Yildizoglu 
> <murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr>:
> 
>> Hi Thomas,
>> Were you using  the SVN version that comes with Xcode? If yes, have you 
>> reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode? They are suppressed during the 
>> installation of Mavericks if I remember well. Their reinstallation  is 
>> necessary if you need that SVN, or have not installed another one. If you 
>> rather use Git, you can also install it yourself. Mavericks update has 
>> deleted many things in my case (including the Oracle Java, for example).
>> 
>> 
>> 2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz <th...@gmx.li>
>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> I’ve a huge problem with my version control in an existing file and noticed 
>> it now.
>> There may be a connection to the Mavericks update on OS X, but I’m not 100% 
>> sure.
>> I’ve posted some screenshots of my errors here: 
>> http://latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19=24217=82332#p82332
>> 
>> I receive the error on both 2.0.6 and 2.1beta2. 
>> 
>> Can you tell me something about this error? How can I fix this?
>> 
>> All the best,
>> Thomas
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
>> 
>> Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
>> GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
>> Avenue Léon Duguit
>> 33608 Pessac cedex
>> France
>> 
>> Bureau : E-331
>> 
>> mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
>> 
>> web: yildizoglu.info
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
> 
> Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
> GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
> Avenue Léon Duguit
> 33608 Pessac cedex
> France
> 
> Bureau : E-331
> 
> mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
> 
> web: yildizoglu.info



signature.asc
Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail


Re: Problematic Version Control

2013-12-04 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
Thomas,
I have never used RCS so I do not know what Lyx uses for this on Mac. But I
read on the Wiki the following (http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/VersionControl) :
"LyX uses RCS <http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/tichy91rcs.html> in order to
implement version control. By default RCS is not installed on OS X (10.5 at
least). It is however part of Xcode<http://developer.apple.com/tools/xcode/>.
"

So, if you depend on the version installed by Xcode, and if Xcode 5 has
updated it to a new version, you could meet the same problems as the ones
met by the Coda people using SVN (the version 1.7 installed by Xcode is not
compatible with their repository created using an older version of SVN).
The version I have with Xcode 5.2 on my laptop is RCS version 5.7
You can check yours by executing rcs -V in Terminal.
I do not fully grok the messages in German, so I am just guessing here.
More people could maybe help you if you translate the messages to English,
I think.


2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz <th...@gmx.li>

> Hi Murat,
>
> Thank your for your advice and your link.
> I can’t really say something about Xcode / Coda and if it affects the
> version control system of LyX. I don’t use Git / SVN with Lyx - just the
> regular VC: http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/VersionControl
> So it’s RCS.
>
> Fine to know, that LyX now supports Git / SVN. I will use that for future
> projects, but of course now I would be really happy to recover my current
> VC (RCS) .lyx,v file to have the full history back for use :)
>
> For the list, I added the two error messages to this e-mail:
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1625441/error1.jpg
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1625441/error2.jpg
>
> First error occurs when I try to „commit", and the second one when I try
> to retrieve the history.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Thomas
>
>
> Am 04.12.2013 um 23:20 schrieb Murat Yildizoglu <
> murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr>:
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> I am not sure that I understand everything :-)  I am not a big VC user
> myself, I am trying to get disciplined enough to be able to use it, but no
> avail. But, I am more or less following the evolution of the softs, and
> rather tempted to adopt git, now that Lyx can use it.
> Unfortunately, I cannot directly answer your questions. But I have found
> the following post by the editors of Coda, maybe their tricks could help
> you if you end up by using SVN with Lyx:
>
> http://www.visuallizard.com/blog/2013/10/23/xcode-5-coda-2-and-svn
>
> I also send my answer to the list, probably someone else, more competent
> than me could help you using the information you give below, in your
> message.
>
> Please keep us informed if you locate the source and the solution of your
> problem.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Murat
>
>
>
>
> 2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz <th...@gmx.li>
>
>> Hi Murat,
>>
>> Thanks for your quick reply.
>> I’m using the native version control of Lyx which creates a .lyx,v file.
>> So I think this is not SVN but simple version control, right?
>> Nevertheless I reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode some time ago
>> after Mavericks update - but when using SVN I am using the app „Versions“
>> and for eclipse I’m using subclipse for SVN support.
>>
>> I don’t know if those information is helping you getting to know what
>> went wrong here - but is Lyx really using SVN for version control?
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Thomas
>>
>>
>> Am 04.12.2013 um 22:32 schrieb Murat Yildizoglu <
>> murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr>:
>>
>> Hi Thomas,
>> Were you using  the SVN version that comes with Xcode? If yes, have you
>> reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode? They are suppressed during the
>> installation of Mavericks if I remember well. Their reinstallation  is
>> necessary if you need that SVN, or have not installed another one. If you
>> rather use Git, you can also install it yourself. Mavericks update has
>> deleted many things in my case (including the Oracle Java, for example).
>>
>>
>> 2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz <th...@gmx.li>
>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> I’ve a huge problem with my version control in an existing file and
>>> noticed it now.
>>> There may be a connection to the Mavericks update on OS X, but I’m not
>>> 100% sure.
>>> I’ve posted some screenshots of my errors here:
>>> http://latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19=24217=82332#p82332
>>>
>>> I receive the error on both 2.0.6 and 2.1beta2.
>>>
>>> Can you tell me something about this error? How can I fix this?
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>> Thomas
&

Re: Problematic Version Control

2013-12-04 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 04.12.2013 um 23:46 schrieb Thomas Wirtz <th...@gmx.li>:

> Hi Murat,
> 
> Thank your for your advice and your link.
> I can’t really say something about Xcode / Coda and if it affects the version 
> control system of LyX. I don’t use Git / SVN with Lyx - just the regular VC: 
> http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/VersionControl
> So it’s RCS.
> 
> Fine to know, that LyX now supports Git / SVN. I will use that for future 
> projects, but of course now I would be really happy to recover my current VC 
> (RCS) .lyx,v file to have the full history back for use :)
> 
> For the list, I added the two error messages to this e-mail:
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1625441/error1.jpg
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1625441/error2.jpg
> 
> First error occurs when I try to „commit", and the second one when I try to 
> retrieve the history.


Does this help?
https://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg97282.html

Stephan

> 
> Am 04.12.2013 um 23:20 schrieb Murat Yildizoglu 
> <murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr>:
> 
>> Hi Thomas,
>> 
>> I am not sure that I understand everything :-)  I am not a big VC user 
>> myself, I am trying to get disciplined enough to be able to use it, but no 
>> avail. But, I am more or less following the evolution of the softs, and 
>> rather tempted to adopt git, now that Lyx can use it. 
>> Unfortunately, I cannot directly answer your questions. But I have found the 
>> following post by the editors of Coda, maybe their tricks could help you if 
>> you end up by using SVN with Lyx:
>> 
>> http://www.visuallizard.com/blog/2013/10/23/xcode-5-coda-2-and-svn
>> 
>> I also send my answer to the list, probably someone else, more competent 
>> than me could help you using the information you give below, in your message.
>> 
>> Please keep us informed if you locate the source and the solution of your 
>> problem.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Murat
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz <th...@gmx.li>
>> Hi Murat,
>> 
>> Thanks for your quick reply.
>> I’m using the native version control of Lyx which creates a .lyx,v file. So 
>> I think this is not SVN but simple version control, right?
>> Nevertheless I reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode some time ago 
>> after Mavericks update - but when using SVN I am using the app „Versions“ 
>> and for eclipse I’m using subclipse for SVN support.
>> 
>> I don’t know if those information is helping you getting to know what went 
>> wrong here - but is Lyx really using SVN for version control?
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Thomas
>> 
>> 
>> Am 04.12.2013 um 22:32 schrieb Murat Yildizoglu 
>> <murat.yildizo...@u-bordeaux4.fr>:
>> 
>>> Hi Thomas,
>>> Were you using  the SVN version that comes with Xcode? If yes, have you 
>>> reinstalled the command line tools of Xcode? They are suppressed during the 
>>> installation of Mavericks if I remember well. Their reinstallation  is 
>>> necessary if you need that SVN, or have not installed another one. If you 
>>> rather use Git, you can also install it yourself. Mavericks update has 
>>> deleted many things in my case (including the Oracle Java, for example).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2013/12/4 Thomas Wirtz <th...@gmx.li>
>>> Hi guys,
>>> 
>>> I’ve a huge problem with my version control in an existing file and noticed 
>>> it now.
>>> There may be a connection to the Mavericks update on OS X, but I’m not 100% 
>>> sure.
>>> I’ve posted some screenshots of my errors here: 
>>> http://latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19=24217=82332#p82332
>>> 
>>> I receive the error on both 2.0.6 and 2.1beta2. 
>>> 
>>> Can you tell me something about this error? How can I fix this?
>>> 
>>> All the best,
>>> Thomas
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
>>> 
>>> Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
>>> GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
>>> Avenue Léon Duguit
>>> 33608 Pessac cedex
>>> France
>>> 
>>> Bureau : E-331
>>> 
>>> mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
>>> 
>>> web: yildizoglu.info
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Prof. Murat Yildizoglu
>> 
>> Université Montesquieu Bordeaux IV 
>> GREThA (UMR CNRS 5113)
>> Avenue Léon Duguit
>> 33608 Pessac cedex
>> France
>> 
>> Bureau : E-331
>> 
>> mail: yildi-at-u-bordeaux4.fr
>> 
>> web: yildizoglu.info
> 



Re: Version Control Problems

2011-12-04 Thread Pavel Sanda
Christoph Weber wrote:
 Hi everybody!

 I've some problems with RCS.

 I start using RCS with the Register-command. And the first version of my 
 file is registered, no error messages appear and the file is now 
 write-protected.
 But the problem is, that all the other buttons stay inactive. I can't click 
 Check Out for Edit to edit the file again.

 Has anyone similar problems or knows how to solve them?

it should just work. what is the version of RCS you use? 
can you provide detailed debug report what happens when you open
the file? (view-view messages-settings-selected-version control-yes)

pavel


  1   2   3   4   >