Re: Short titles
On Fri, 8 Oct 2021, Paul A. Rubin wrote: I don't think the KOMA-Script Report class directly supports a short title for the title. In LyX, the short title entry on the Insert menu is there when you are in a chapter or section heading but not when you are in the document title. I searched the KOMA-Script manual for "short title", and the only hits were for captions or something called a "half title", which isn't what you want. Paul, I didn't find anything useful in the manual, either. Have you been able to insert short titles in KS Report titles in the past? Haven't tried. I'll not use the document title in the headers, then; I'll use the chapter titles instead (and they're all short anyway). Thanks, both of you, Rich -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Short titles
On 10/8/21 3:30 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: On Fri, 8 Oct 2021, Paul A. Rubin wrote: Rich: What class are you using? Paul, KOMA-Script Report Rich Rich, I don't think the KOMA-Script Report class directly supports a short title for the title. In LyX, the short title entry on the Insert menu is there when you are in a chapter or section heading but not when you are in the document title. I searched the KOMA-Script manual for "short title", and the only hits were for captions or something called a "half title", which isn't what you want. Have you been able to insert short titles in KS Report titles in the past? Paul -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Short titles
On Fri, 8 Oct 2021, Paul A. Rubin wrote: Rich: What class are you using? Paul, KOMA-Script Report Rich -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Short titles
On Fri, 8 Oct 2021, Paul A. Rubin wrote: Actually, yes and no. I just tried a small test document (article class). In a section heading, the insert menu has the item. In the article title, though, it does not (but formerly did). This is on 2.3.6.1. I suspect this is a bug. Paul, Aha! The report has a long title and I wanted to supply a short title which would be displayed in page headers. Must be a lightning fly type of bug, eh? Thanks! Rich -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Short titles
On Fri, 8 Oct 2021, Ricardo Berlasso wrote: It's still there, but only when the cursor is on a heading environment. Put your cursor on the same paragraph of a title and you'll see the entry under the Insert menu (the shortcut is Alt-A, then 1). Ricardo, I had the cursor at the head of the title; the Users Guide said to put it at the end of the title. Neither position showed it in the Insert menu. Alt-a moves the cursor to the head of the line; 1 inserts a 1 there. Thanks, Rich -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Short titles
On 10/8/21 3:02 PM, Ricardo Berlasso wrote: El vie, 8 oct 2021 a las 19:35, Rich Shepard (mailto:rshep...@appl-ecosys.com>>) escribió: I used to find an entry in the Insert menu for short titles. It's not there in version 2.6.3.1. Looking in the Users Guide I see that it should be there. Has anyone a thought why it's not being presented? It's still there, but only when the cursor is on a heading environment. Put your cursor on the same paragraph of a title and you'll see the entry under the Insert menu (the shortcut is Alt-A, then 1). Regards, Ricardo TIA, Rich -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org <mailto:lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users <http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users> Sorry, my bad. It's present in the title field with the AMS article class (which is where I usually employ it), but not with the generic article class (where it is unsupported?). Rich: What class are you using? Paul -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Short titles
On 10/8/21 3:02 PM, Ricardo Berlasso wrote: El vie, 8 oct 2021 a las 19:35, Rich Shepard (mailto:rshep...@appl-ecosys.com>>) escribió: I used to find an entry in the Insert menu for short titles. It's not there in version 2.6.3.1. Looking in the Users Guide I see that it should be there. Has anyone a thought why it's not being presented? It's still there, but only when the cursor is on a heading environment. Put your cursor on the same paragraph of a title and you'll see the entry under the Insert menu (the shortcut is Alt-A, then 1). Regards, Ricardo TIA, Rich -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org <mailto:lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users <http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users> Ricardo, Actually, yes and no. I just tried a small test document (article class). In a section heading, the insert menu has the item. In the article title, though, it does not (but formerly did). This is on 2.3.6.1. I suspect this is a bug. Paul -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Short titles
El vie, 8 oct 2021 a las 19:35, Rich Shepard () escribió: > I used to find an entry in the Insert menu for short titles. It's not there > in version 2.6.3.1. > > Looking in the Users Guide I see that it should be there. > > Has anyone a thought why it's not being presented? > It's still there, but only when the cursor is on a heading environment. Put your cursor on the same paragraph of a title and you'll see the entry under the Insert menu (the shortcut is Alt-A, then 1). Regards, Ricardo > > TIA, > > Rich > -- > lyx-users mailing list > lyx-users@lists.lyx.org > http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users > -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Short titles
I used to find an entry in the Insert menu for short titles. It's not there in version 2.6.3.1. Looking in the Users Guide I see that it should be there. Has anyone a thought why it's not being presented? TIA, Rich -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Short Titles in book (Koma-script)
Hi
I wrote my thesis in Lyx. Some of my chapter titles are quite long,
so I'd like to use short titles to appear in the page headers.
If I add the optional short title to a chapter and then only compile the
chapter, it works fine. Also the latex code looks how it should:
\chapter[Roughness]{Beyond the Lotus Effect: Roughness Influences on Wetting
over a Wide Surface-Energy Range\label{cha:6_BeyondLotusEffect}}
However, when I want to compile the book as a pdf, the following error message
appears:
Use of \...@chapter doesn't match its definition.
Use of \...@chapter doesn't match its definition.
Missing \endcsname inserted.
Extra \endcsname.
Use of \...@chapter doesn't match its definition.
The error message Use of \...@chapter doesn't match its definition. is
described
as:
...nergy Range\label{cha:6_BeyondLotusEffect}}
If you say, e.g., `\def\a1{...}', then you must always
put `1' after `\a', since control sequence names are
made up of letters only. The macro here has not been
followed by the required stuff, so I'm ignoring it.
So, I assume it thinks the label is the problem. However, I can remove the short
title again and the book is well compiled, also with the label.
Does anyone have an idea what could be the problem? I'm grateful for any help on
this.
I'm working on Windows Seven with Lyx version 1.6.7. The document class is book
(KOMA-Script). The language of the user interface in German (which I would
prefer to be in English, but I couldn't figure out how to change it. Doesn't
work under Tools/Settings (Werkzeue/Einstellungen)).
With best regards,
Doris
Short Titles in book (Koma-script)
Hi
I wrote my thesis in Lyx. Some of my chapter titles are quite long,
so I'd like to use short titles to appear in the page headers.
If I add the optional short title to a chapter and then only compile the
chapter, it works fine. Also the latex code looks how it should:
\chapter[Roughness]{Beyond the Lotus Effect: Roughness Influences on Wetting
over a Wide Surface-Energy Range\label{cha:6_BeyondLotusEffect}}
However, when I want to compile the book as a pdf, the following error message
appears:
Use of \...@chapter doesn't match its definition.
Use of \...@chapter doesn't match its definition.
Missing \endcsname inserted.
Extra \endcsname.
Use of \...@chapter doesn't match its definition.
The error message Use of \...@chapter doesn't match its definition. is
described
as:
...nergy Range\label{cha:6_BeyondLotusEffect}}
If you say, e.g., `\def\a1{...}', then you must always
put `1' after `\a', since control sequence names are
made up of letters only. The macro here has not been
followed by the required stuff, so I'm ignoring it.
So, I assume it thinks the label is the problem. However, I can remove the short
title again and the book is well compiled, also with the label.
Does anyone have an idea what could be the problem? I'm grateful for any help on
this.
I'm working on Windows Seven with Lyx version 1.6.7. The document class is book
(KOMA-Script). The language of the user interface in German (which I would
prefer to be in English, but I couldn't figure out how to change it. Doesn't
work under Tools/Settings (Werkzeue/Einstellungen)).
With best regards,
Doris
Short Titles in book (Koma-script)
Hi
I wrote my thesis in Lyx. Some of my chapter titles are quite long,
so I'd like to use "short titles" to appear in the page headers.
If I add the optional short title to a chapter and then only compile the
chapter, it works fine. Also the latex code looks how it should:
\chapter[Roughness]{Beyond the Lotus Effect: Roughness Influences on Wetting
over a Wide Surface-Energy Range\label{cha:6_BeyondLotusEffect}}
However, when I want to compile the book as a pdf, the following error message
appears:
Use of \...@chapter doesn't match its definition.
Use of \...@chapter doesn't match its definition.
Missing \endcsname inserted.
Extra \endcsname.
Use of \...@chapter doesn't match its definition.
The error message "Use of \...@chapter doesn't match its definition." is
described
as:
...nergy Range\label{cha:6_BeyondLotusEffect}}
If you say, e.g., `\def\a1{...}', then you must always
put `1' after `\a', since control sequence names are
made up of letters only. The macro here has not been
followed by the required stuff, so I'm ignoring it.
So, I assume it thinks the label is the problem. However, I can remove the short
title again and the book is well compiled, also with the label.
Does anyone have an idea what could be the problem? I'm grateful for any help on
this.
I'm working on Windows Seven with Lyx version 1.6.7. The document class is "book
(KOMA-Script)". The language of the user interface in German (which I would
prefer to be in English, but I couldn't figure out how to change it. Doesn't
work under Tools/Settings (Werkzeue/Einstellungen)).
With best regards,
Doris
Re: Short titles in fancyheader: delayed reaction
mt == mt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
mt I use Lyx 1.3.7 (German) but i can't find InsertShort Title.
Looks like it is Kurztitel. It is only usable in layouts that support
such a thing.
mt But it seems that the code created is
mt \section[short]{long title}, isn't it? The short title
mt will appear in the TOC in this case.
Exactly. If you use memoir, it is possible to specify separately the
toc and the header, and LyX supports this.
JMarc
Re: Short titles in fancyheader: delayed reaction
Hello! Thank you very much for your answer. The trick worked for me too,
and is remarkably hassle-free.
My solution:
\markright{short}
\section{looong title}
\markright{short}
The only thing is that the section number does not appear in the header
that way. So, assuming it was section A, I had to put in the following:
\markright{A. SHORT TITLE}
\section{looong title}
\sectionmark{short title}
The long title will appear in the TOC.
It does, no problem there.
But i think that this will cause
problems when the section starts on a new page...
I have not noticed that.
I haven't tried it with chapters; maybe there is a problem that the
short title appears on the page before the new chapter (because this
always uses a new page)!?
Actually, the same problem cannot happen with chapters, since the first
page of the chapter has no header. Then, from the second page onward, all
is fine, it follows whatever \chaptermark you decided to give it.
Cheers,
Catherine
Re: Short titles in fancyheader: delayed reaction
The only thing is that the section number does not appear in the header
that way. So, assuming it was section A, I had to put in the following:
\markright{A. SHORT TITLE}
Oh, thank you, i haven't noticed that yet. There is just another dirty trick
from my side (maybe Jean Marc's memoir-class is better advised... ;):
to include the section name you could write:
\markright{\thesection\ short} [same with \thechapter]
But before defining the new section the counter for the new section is on the
old value, it is one to low. So you could add artificially 1 and subtract it
afterwards:
\addtocounter{section}{1} \markright{\thesection\ SHORT}
\addtocounter{section}{-1}
\section{LOOONG}
\markright{\thesection\ SHORT}
Best wishes, Marco
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Re: Short titles in fancyheader: delayed reaction
mt == mt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
mt I use Lyx 1.3.7 (German) but i can't find InsertShort Title.
Looks like it is Kurztitel. It is only usable in layouts that support
such a thing.
mt But it seems that the code created is
mt \section[short]{long title}, isn't it? The short title
mt will appear in the TOC in this case.
Exactly. If you use memoir, it is possible to specify separately the
toc and the header, and LyX supports this.
JMarc
Re: Short titles in fancyheader: delayed reaction
Hello! Thank you very much for your answer. The trick worked for me too,
and is remarkably hassle-free.
My solution:
\markright{short}
\section{looong title}
\markright{short}
The only thing is that the section number does not appear in the header
that way. So, assuming it was section A, I had to put in the following:
\markright{A. SHORT TITLE}
\section{looong title}
\sectionmark{short title}
The long title will appear in the TOC.
It does, no problem there.
But i think that this will cause
problems when the section starts on a new page...
I have not noticed that.
I haven't tried it with chapters; maybe there is a problem that the
short title appears on the page before the new chapter (because this
always uses a new page)!?
Actually, the same problem cannot happen with chapters, since the first
page of the chapter has no header. Then, from the second page onward, all
is fine, it follows whatever \chaptermark you decided to give it.
Cheers,
Catherine
Re: Short titles in fancyheader: delayed reaction
The only thing is that the section number does not appear in the header
that way. So, assuming it was section A, I had to put in the following:
\markright{A. SHORT TITLE}
Oh, thank you, i haven't noticed that yet. There is just another dirty trick
from my side (maybe Jean Marc's memoir-class is better advised... ;):
to include the section name you could write:
\markright{\thesection\ short} [same with \thechapter]
But before defining the new section the counter for the new section is on the
old value, it is one to low. So you could add artificially 1 and subtract it
afterwards:
\addtocounter{section}{1} \markright{\thesection\ SHORT}
\addtocounter{section}{-1}
\section{LOOONG}
\markright{\thesection\ SHORT}
Best wishes, Marco
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Re: Short titles in fancyheader: delayed reaction
> "mt" == mt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
mt> I use Lyx 1.3.7 (German) but i can't find "Insert>Short Title".
Looks like it is Kurztitel. It is only usable in layouts that support
such a thing.
mt> But it seems that the code created is
mt> "\section[short]{long title}", isn't it? The short title
mt> will appear in the TOC in this case.
Exactly. If you use memoir, it is possible to specify separately the
toc and the header, and LyX supports this.
JMarc
Re: Short titles in fancyheader: delayed reaction
Hello! Thank you very much for your answer. The trick worked for me too,
and is remarkably hassle-free.
My "solution":
\markright{short}
\section{looong title}
\markright{short}
The only thing is that the section number does not appear in the header
that way. So, assuming it was section A, I had to put in the following:
\markright{A. SHORT TITLE}
\section{looong title}
\sectionmark{short title}
The long title will appear in the TOC.
It does, no problem there.
But i think that this will cause
problems when the section starts on a new page...
I have not noticed that.
I haven't tried it with chapters; maybe there is a problem that the
short title appears on the page before the new chapter (because this
always uses a new page)!?
Actually, the same problem cannot happen with chapters, since the first
page of the chapter has no header. Then, from the second page onward, all
is fine, it follows whatever \chaptermark you decided to give it.
Cheers,
Catherine
Re: Short titles in fancyheader: delayed reaction
> The only thing is that the section number does not appear in the header
> that way. So, assuming it was section A, I had to put in the following:
>
> \markright{A. SHORT TITLE}
Oh, thank you, i haven't noticed that yet. There is just another "dirty trick"
from my side (maybe Jean Marc's memoir-class is better advised... ;):
to include the section name you could write:
\markright{\thesection\ short} [same with \thechapter]
But before defining the new section the counter for the new section is on the
old value, it is one to low. So you could add artificially 1 and subtract it
afterwards:
\addtocounter{section}{1} \markright{\thesection\ SHORT}
\addtocounter{section}{-1}
\section{LOOONG}
\markright{\thesection\ SHORT}
Best wishes, Marco
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Re: Short titles in fancyheader: delayed reaction
Hello !
i have the same problem with sections (in book style).
I use \markright for changing the section title in the header - TWICE, just
before and after the \section. Otherwise [just with \markright{..}
\section{..}] (only!) the first page with the new section has the long title in
the fancyheader!
My solution:
\markright{short}
\section{looong title}
\markright{short}
The long title will appear in the TOC. But i think that this will cause
problems when the section starts on a new page...
I haven't tried it with chapters; maybe there is a problem that the short title
appears on the page before the new chapter (because this always uses a new
page)!?
For chapters the caommand is not \markright but \markboth{short CHAPTER
name}{section name}.
I use Lyx 1.3.7 (German) but i can't find InsertShort Title. But it seems
that the code created is \section[short]{long title}, isn't it? The
short title will appear in the TOC in this case.
Best wishes,
Marco
Try to use instead InsertShort Title to specify the shorter version
of the chapter title.
Actually, I spoke too soon. This solution does sort my header problem, but
it creates another one. In the toc, I then get the short title, but I
would like the full title to appear.
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Re: Short titles in fancyheader: delayed reaction
Hello !
i have the same problem with sections (in book style).
I use \markright for changing the section title in the header - TWICE, just
before and after the \section. Otherwise [just with \markright{..}
\section{..}] (only!) the first page with the new section has the long title in
the fancyheader!
My solution:
\markright{short}
\section{looong title}
\markright{short}
The long title will appear in the TOC. But i think that this will cause
problems when the section starts on a new page...
I haven't tried it with chapters; maybe there is a problem that the short title
appears on the page before the new chapter (because this always uses a new
page)!?
For chapters the caommand is not \markright but \markboth{short CHAPTER
name}{section name}.
I use Lyx 1.3.7 (German) but i can't find InsertShort Title. But it seems
that the code created is \section[short]{long title}, isn't it? The
short title will appear in the TOC in this case.
Best wishes,
Marco
Try to use instead InsertShort Title to specify the shorter version
of the chapter title.
Actually, I spoke too soon. This solution does sort my header problem, but
it creates another one. In the toc, I then get the short title, but I
would like the full title to appear.
--
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Re: Short titles in fancyheader: delayed reaction
Hello !
i have the same problem with sections (in book style).
I use \markright for changing the section title in the header - TWICE, just
before and after the \section. Otherwise [just with \markright{..}
\section{..}] (only!) the first page with the new section has the long title in
the fancyheader!
My "solution":
\markright{short}
\section{looong title}
\markright{short}
The long title will appear in the TOC. But i think that this will cause
problems when the section starts on a new page...
I haven't tried it with chapters; maybe there is a problem that the short title
appears on the page before the new chapter (because this always uses a new
page)!?
For chapters the caommand is not \markright but \markboth{short CHAPTER
name}{section name}.
I use Lyx 1.3.7 (German) but i can't find "Insert>Short Title". But it seems
that the code created is "\section[short]{long title}", isn't it? The
short title will appear in the TOC in this case.
Best wishes,
Marco
> > Try to use instead Insert>Short Title to specify the shorter version
> > of the chapter title.
>
> Actually, I spoke too soon. This solution does sort my header problem, but
> it creates another one. In the toc, I then get the short title, but I
> would like the full title to appear.
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Short titles in fancyheader: delayed reaction
When I use the ERT \chaptermark{my shorter title} in order to have a
shorter chapter title in the header, there is a delayed reaction. It
works well for all pages, but not for the first page, the one with the
actual chapter title. Instead, I get the full title inelegantly cut in the
header. Any ideas how to get the chapter title page to work too?
The problem was mentioned almost 3 years ago (see below) but I couldn't
find any answers.
Many thanks,
Catherine
Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:33:22 -0700
Hello LyX-List,
In a document I use fancy pagestyle and I want the chapters and
sectiontitles to be printed in short form in the header, so some of the
older E-mails tell that the command needed is:
\sectionmark{abc}
and it works for all the pages where no new section is started. But on
this page the short chapter-title but the long (original) section-title
is displayed in the header; so another E-mail tells that the pagestyle
ist set to plain at the beginning of new chapters - is it the same with
beginnings of new sections, and: is this the problem? - can I change
this?
-Kai-
--
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Re: Short titles in fancyheader: delayed reaction
Catherine == Catherine Heyrendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Catherine When I use the ERT \chaptermark{my shorter title} in
Catherine order to have a shorter chapter title in the header, there
Catherine is a delayed reaction. It works well for all pages, but
Catherine not for the first page, the one with the actual chapter
Catherine title. Instead, I get the full title inelegantly cut in the
Catherine header. Any ideas how to get the chapter title page to work
Catherine too?
Hello,
Try to use instead InsertShort Title to specify the shorter version
of the chapter title.
JMarc
Re: Short titles in fancyheader: delayed reaction
Try to use instead InsertShort Title to specify the shorter version of the chapter title. It works beautifully, thanks a lot! I needn't have bothered using \chaptermark... Catherine
Re: Short titles in fancyheader: delayed reaction
Try to use instead InsertShort Title to specify the shorter version of the chapter title. Actually, I spoke too soon. This solution does sort my header problem, but it creates another one. In the toc, I then get the short title, but I would like the full title to appear.
Re: Short titles in fancyheader: delayed reaction
Catherine == Catherine Heyrendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Try to use instead InsertShort Title to specify the shorter version of the chapter title. Catherine Actually, I spoke too soon. This solution does sort my Catherine header problem, but it creates another one. In the toc, I Catherine then get the short title, but I would like the full title Catherine to appear. This is how standard LaTeX classes work... If you use the memoir class, this is possible by adding two different Short Title insets in the paragraph (I do not remember what the order is). JMarc
Re: Short titles in fancyheader: delayed reaction
Catherine Heyrendt wrote:
When I use the ERT \chaptermark{my shorter title} in order to have a
shorter chapter title in the header, there is a delayed reaction. It
works well for all pages, but not for the first page, the one with the
actual chapter title. Instead, I get the full title inelegantly cut in
the header. Any ideas how to get the chapter title page to work too?
The problem was mentioned almost 3 years ago (see below) but I couldn't
find any answers.
Google fancyplain. This is an alternative page style (also defined in
fancyhdr.sty IIRC) that allows you to specify headers/footers separately
for ordinary pages (which fancy style does) and for title pages
(including first page of a chapter), which fancy style skips. I'm not
sure, but I think this will help.
/Paul
Short titles in fancyheader: delayed reaction
When I use the ERT \chaptermark{my shorter title} in order to have a
shorter chapter title in the header, there is a delayed reaction. It
works well for all pages, but not for the first page, the one with the
actual chapter title. Instead, I get the full title inelegantly cut in the
header. Any ideas how to get the chapter title page to work too?
The problem was mentioned almost 3 years ago (see below) but I couldn't
find any answers.
Many thanks,
Catherine
Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:33:22 -0700
Hello LyX-List,
In a document I use fancy pagestyle and I want the chapters and
sectiontitles to be printed in short form in the header, so some of the
older E-mails tell that the command needed is:
\sectionmark{abc}
and it works for all the pages where no new section is started. But on
this page the short chapter-title but the long (original) section-title
is displayed in the header; so another E-mail tells that the pagestyle
ist set to plain at the beginning of new chapters - is it the same with
beginnings of new sections, and: is this the problem? - can I change
this?
-Kai-
--
Kai Johannes Keller
Re: Short titles in fancyheader: delayed reaction
Catherine == Catherine Heyrendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Catherine When I use the ERT \chaptermark{my shorter title} in
Catherine order to have a shorter chapter title in the header, there
Catherine is a delayed reaction. It works well for all pages, but
Catherine not for the first page, the one with the actual chapter
Catherine title. Instead, I get the full title inelegantly cut in the
Catherine header. Any ideas how to get the chapter title page to work
Catherine too?
Hello,
Try to use instead InsertShort Title to specify the shorter version
of the chapter title.
JMarc
Re: Short titles in fancyheader: delayed reaction
Try to use instead InsertShort Title to specify the shorter version of the chapter title. It works beautifully, thanks a lot! I needn't have bothered using \chaptermark... Catherine
Re: Short titles in fancyheader: delayed reaction
Try to use instead InsertShort Title to specify the shorter version of the chapter title. Actually, I spoke too soon. This solution does sort my header problem, but it creates another one. In the toc, I then get the short title, but I would like the full title to appear.
Re: Short titles in fancyheader: delayed reaction
Catherine == Catherine Heyrendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Try to use instead InsertShort Title to specify the shorter version of the chapter title. Catherine Actually, I spoke too soon. This solution does sort my Catherine header problem, but it creates another one. In the toc, I Catherine then get the short title, but I would like the full title Catherine to appear. This is how standard LaTeX classes work... If you use the memoir class, this is possible by adding two different Short Title insets in the paragraph (I do not remember what the order is). JMarc
Re: Short titles in fancyheader: delayed reaction
Catherine Heyrendt wrote:
When I use the ERT \chaptermark{my shorter title} in order to have a
shorter chapter title in the header, there is a delayed reaction. It
works well for all pages, but not for the first page, the one with the
actual chapter title. Instead, I get the full title inelegantly cut in
the header. Any ideas how to get the chapter title page to work too?
The problem was mentioned almost 3 years ago (see below) but I couldn't
find any answers.
Google fancyplain. This is an alternative page style (also defined in
fancyhdr.sty IIRC) that allows you to specify headers/footers separately
for ordinary pages (which fancy style does) and for title pages
(including first page of a chapter), which fancy style skips. I'm not
sure, but I think this will help.
/Paul
Short titles in fancyheader: delayed reaction
When I use the ERT \chaptermark{} in order to have a
shorter chapter title in the header, there is a "delayed reaction". It
works well for all pages, but not for the first page, the one with the
actual chapter title. Instead, I get the full title inelegantly cut in the
header. Any ideas how to get the chapter title page to work too?
The problem was mentioned almost 3 years ago (see below) but I couldn't
find any answers.
Many thanks,
Catherine
Mon, 22 Sep 2003 16:33:22 -0700
Hello LyX-List,
In a document I use "fancy" pagestyle and I want the chapters and
sectiontitles to be printed in short form in the header, so some of the
older E-mails tell that the command needed is:
\sectionmark{abc}
and it works for all the pages where no new section is started. But on
this page the short chapter-title but the long (original) section-title
is displayed in the header; so another E-mail tells that the pagestyle
ist set to plain at the beginning of new chapters - is it the same with
beginnings of new sections, and: is this the problem? - can I change
this?
-Kai-
--
Kai Johannes Keller
Re: Short titles in fancyheader: delayed reaction
> "Catherine" == Catherine Heyrendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Catherine> When I use the ERT \chaptermark{} in
Catherine> order to have a shorter chapter title in the header, there
Catherine> is a "delayed reaction". It works well for all pages, but
Catherine> not for the first page, the one with the actual chapter
Catherine> title. Instead, I get the full title inelegantly cut in the
Catherine> header. Any ideas how to get the chapter title page to work
Catherine> too?
Hello,
Try to use instead Insert>Short Title to specify the shorter version
of the chapter title.
JMarc
Re: Short titles in fancyheader: delayed reaction
Try to use instead Insert>Short Title to specify the shorter version of the chapter title. It works beautifully, thanks a lot! I needn't have bothered using \chaptermark... Catherine
Re: Short titles in fancyheader: delayed reaction
Try to use instead Insert>Short Title to specify the shorter version of the chapter title. Actually, I spoke too soon. This solution does sort my header problem, but it creates another one. In the toc, I then get the short title, but I would like the full title to appear.
Re: Short titles in fancyheader: delayed reaction
> "Catherine" == Catherine Heyrendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Try to use instead Insert>Short Title to specify the shorter >> version of the chapter title. Catherine> Actually, I spoke too soon. This solution does sort my Catherine> header problem, but it creates another one. In the toc, I Catherine> then get the short title, but I would like the full title Catherine> to appear. This is how standard LaTeX classes work... If you use the memoir class, this is possible by adding two different Short Title insets in the paragraph (I do not remember what the order is). JMarc
Re: Short titles in fancyheader: delayed reaction
Catherine Heyrendt wrote:
When I use the ERT \chaptermark{} in order to have a
shorter chapter title in the header, there is a "delayed reaction". It
works well for all pages, but not for the first page, the one with the
actual chapter title. Instead, I get the full title inelegantly cut in
the header. Any ideas how to get the chapter title page to work too?
The problem was mentioned almost 3 years ago (see below) but I couldn't
find any answers.
Google "fancyplain". This is an alternative page style (also defined in
fancyhdr.sty IIRC) that allows you to specify headers/footers separately
for ordinary pages (which fancy style does) and for title pages
(including first page of a chapter), which fancy style skips. I'm not
sure, but I think this will help.
/Paul
Re: 6.3 Short titles
Class is (for the time being as I know you advised otherwise) book (mwbk). I have noted to experiment with memoir :-) On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 12:38 +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Bruce == Bruce Ernest Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bruce For neatness' sake I note that the scrip below (now corrected Bruce in line with J-Marc's direction) over-writes the Article XXI Bruce over (under?) text of the section text in the table of Bruce contents. I guess it is a limitation of the class you use. Which one is it? JMarc -- Bruce Ernest Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6.3 Short titles
Class is (for the time being as I know you advised otherwise) book (mwbk). I have noted to experiment with memoir :-) On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 12:38 +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Bruce == Bruce Ernest Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bruce For neatness' sake I note that the scrip below (now corrected Bruce in line with J-Marc's direction) over-writes the Article XXI Bruce over (under?) text of the section text in the table of Bruce contents. I guess it is a limitation of the class you use. Which one is it? JMarc -- Bruce Ernest Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6.3 Short titles
Class is (for the time being as I know you advised otherwise) . I have noted to experiment with memoir :-) On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 12:38 +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Bruce" == Bruce Ernest Weller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Bruce> For neatness' sake I note that the scrip below (now corrected > Bruce> in line with J-Marc's direction) over-writes the "Article XXI" > Bruce> over (under?) text of the text in the table of > Bruce> contents. > > I guess it is a limitation of the class you use. Which one is it? > > JMarc -- Bruce Ernest Weller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: 6.3 Short titles
For neatness' sake I note that the scrip below (now corrected in line
with J-Marc's direction) over-writes the Article XXI over (under?)
text of the section text in the table of contents.
Not a problem.
I rather like the look of my solution which was to put a hard return
before the section text. Crude, perhaps, but workable and the header
text does reflect this with a space.
Again, thanks for the support.
On Thu, 2005-06-02 at 11:17 +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Bruce == Bruce Ernest Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bruce J-Marc Happy to carry out the correspondence
Bruce \usepackage{remreset}
Bruce \renewcommand{\thesection}{Article \Roman{section}}
Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bruce (Blind copying here as I do not understand apart from what I
Bruce read)
...
JMarc
--
Bruce Ernest Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6.3 Short titles
Bruce == Bruce Ernest Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bruce For neatness' sake I note that the scrip below (now corrected Bruce in line with J-Marc's direction) over-writes the Article XXI Bruce over (under?) text of the section text in the table of Bruce contents. I guess it is a limitation of the class you use. Which one is it? JMarc
Re: 6.3 Short titles
For neatness' sake I note that the scrip below (now corrected in line
with J-Marc's direction) over-writes the Article XXI over (under?)
text of the section text in the table of contents.
Not a problem.
I rather like the look of my solution which was to put a hard return
before the section text. Crude, perhaps, but workable and the header
text does reflect this with a space.
Again, thanks for the support.
On Thu, 2005-06-02 at 11:17 +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Bruce == Bruce Ernest Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bruce J-Marc Happy to carry out the correspondence
Bruce \usepackage{remreset}
Bruce \renewcommand{\thesection}{Article \Roman{section}}
Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bruce (Blind copying here as I do not understand apart from what I
Bruce read)
...
JMarc
--
Bruce Ernest Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6.3 Short titles
Bruce == Bruce Ernest Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bruce For neatness' sake I note that the scrip below (now corrected Bruce in line with J-Marc's direction) over-writes the Article XXI Bruce over (under?) text of the section text in the table of Bruce contents. I guess it is a limitation of the class you use. Which one is it? JMarc
Re: 6.3 Short titles
For neatness' sake I note that the scrip below (now corrected in line
with J-Marc's direction) over-writes the "Article XXI" over (under?)
text of the text in the table of contents.
Not a problem.
I rather like the look of my solution which was to put a hard return
before the text. Crude, perhaps, but workable and the header
text does reflect this with a space.
Again, thanks for the support.
On Thu, 2005-06-02 at 11:17 +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > "Bruce" == Bruce Ernest Weller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Bruce> J-Marc Happy to carry out the correspondence
> Bruce> \usepackage{remreset}
> Bruce> \renewcommand{\thesection}{Article \Roman{section}}
> Bruce> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Bruce> (Blind copying here as I do not understand apart from what I
> Bruce> read)
...
>
> JMarc
--
Bruce Ernest Weller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: 6.3 Short titles
> "Bruce" == Bruce Ernest Weller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Bruce> For neatness' sake I note that the scrip below (now corrected Bruce> in line with J-Marc's direction) over-writes the "Article XXI" Bruce> over (under?) text of the text in the table of Bruce> contents. I guess it is a limitation of the class you use. Which one is it? JMarc
Re: 6.3 Short titles
Ahh right! There are none so blind as they who will not look (carefully)! Corrected and it works beautifully Changed the Article to ARTICLE (for the same period flavour as the original) as a little test and learned what that bit of the code does. A step forward. I have memoir and will update the text for the changes you have shown me and then experiment as you suggest. Then to chase up the links. Lots to look forward to ---thank you, J-Marc. On Thu, 2005-06-02 at 11:17 +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Bruce == Bruce Ernest Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bruce J-Marc Happy to carry out the correspondence in the list ... Bruce (Blind copying here as I do not understand apart from what I Bruce read) So blind that you forgot a \ before thesection on the second line :) Bruce Now, the bit that I did not clearly set out is that I am using Bruce Document class 'book (mwbk)' ... mwbk is a document class that is supposed to be tailored for books written in Polish. I doubt this is what you want to do. If you want a high quality and customizable class, I suggest to look up memoir. It has a great manual that first explains how to typeset a book and second how to use memoir commands. Note that some memoir commands are not (yet) supported transparently by LyX. Bruce Would the purchase of the TeXbook be the next step? Or should I Bruce just go back to the LyX Help files and chase down ERT Bruce explanations? I think the fix I pointed above will be sufficient to get you started. If you want to read about LaTeX, the TeXbook is definitely not the first book to read. You could maybe try the not so short introduction to LaTeX http://www.tug.org/tex-archive/info/lshort/english/lshort.pdf or the memoir class documentation http://www.tug.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/memoir/memman.pdf JMarc -- Bruce Ernest Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6.3 Short titles
Ahh right! There are none so blind as they who will not look (carefully)! Corrected and it works beautifully Changed the Article to ARTICLE (for the same period flavour as the original) as a little test and learned what that bit of the code does. A step forward. I have memoir and will update the text for the changes you have shown me and then experiment as you suggest. Then to chase up the links. Lots to look forward to ---thank you, J-Marc. On Thu, 2005-06-02 at 11:17 +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Bruce == Bruce Ernest Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bruce J-Marc Happy to carry out the correspondence in the list ... Bruce (Blind copying here as I do not understand apart from what I Bruce read) So blind that you forgot a \ before thesection on the second line :) Bruce Now, the bit that I did not clearly set out is that I am using Bruce Document class 'book (mwbk)' ... mwbk is a document class that is supposed to be tailored for books written in Polish. I doubt this is what you want to do. If you want a high quality and customizable class, I suggest to look up memoir. It has a great manual that first explains how to typeset a book and second how to use memoir commands. Note that some memoir commands are not (yet) supported transparently by LyX. Bruce Would the purchase of the TeXbook be the next step? Or should I Bruce just go back to the LyX Help files and chase down ERT Bruce explanations? I think the fix I pointed above will be sufficient to get you started. If you want to read about LaTeX, the TeXbook is definitely not the first book to read. You could maybe try the not so short introduction to LaTeX http://www.tug.org/tex-archive/info/lshort/english/lshort.pdf or the memoir class documentation http://www.tug.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/memoir/memman.pdf JMarc -- Bruce Ernest Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6.3 Short titles
Ahh right! There are none so blind as they who will not look (carefully)! Corrected and it works beautifully Changed the Article to ARTICLE (for the same period flavour as the original) as a little test and learned what that bit of the code does. A step forward. I have memoir and will update the text for the changes you have shown me and then experiment as you suggest. Then to chase up the links. Lots to look forward to ---thank you, J-Marc. On Thu, 2005-06-02 at 11:17 +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Bruce" == Bruce Ernest Weller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Bruce> J-Marc Happy to carry out the correspondence in the list > ... > > Bruce> (Blind copying here as I do not understand apart from what I > Bruce> read) > > So blind that you forgot a \ before "thesection" on the second line :) > > Bruce> Now, the bit that I did not clearly set out is that I am using > Bruce> Document class 'book (mwbk)' ... > > mwbk is a document class that is supposed to be tailored for books > written in Polish. I doubt this is what you want to do. If you want a > high quality and customizable class, I suggest to look up memoir. It > has a great manual that first explains how to typeset a book and > second how to use memoir commands. > > Note that some memoir commands are not (yet) supported transparently > by LyX. > > Bruce> Would the purchase of the TeXbook be the next step? Or should I > Bruce> just go back to the LyX Help files and chase down ERT > Bruce> explanations? > > I think the fix I pointed above will be sufficient to get you started. > If you want to read about LaTeX, the TeXbook is definitely not the > first book to read. You could maybe try the not so short introduction > to LaTeX > http://www.tug.org/tex-archive/info/lshort/english/lshort.pdf > or the memoir class documentation > http://www.tug.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/memoir/memman.pdf > > JMarc -- Bruce Ernest Weller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: 6.3 Specifying Short Titles with Optional Arguments
JMarc,
Many thanks; I shall fire up and try your first recommended approach.
Will post outcome here for future readers.
Bruce W
On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 13:15 +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Bruce == Bruce Ernest Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bruce The captioned reference, from the User Guide, appears clear
Bruce enough and works well in the Section environment but the
Bruce option is, as far as I can see, not available in the Section*
Bruce environment.
Bruce Not sure of the rationale for this decision.
Section* layouts do not appear in the table of contents, and LaTeX
does not offer a way of specifying an optional caption in these cases.
Therefore there is not much we can do about it.
Bruce My problem is typesetting an old-fashioned book where, for the
Bruce their pains, the authors- translators have chosen to head each
Bruce separate article along the lines of Article XXIV - The old
Bruce system of wars of position and the modern system of marches
Bruce and the Roman numerals run sequentially (regardless of chapter)
Bruce through the book.
You can use normal Section and redefine at LaTeX level how sections
appear. Something like this in the preamble
\usepackage{remreset}
\renewcommand{\thesection}{Article \Roman{section}}
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
will do what you want with normal Section layout, although it will not
show on screen (in 1.4.0 it will be possible to see the right thing on
screen if you make a (short) layout file).
Concerning not resetting sections, you can also use the article class
and use parts instead of chapters. Then your preamble can be just
\renewcommand{\thesection}{Article \Roman{section}}
Hope this helps.
JMarc
Re: 6.3 Short titles
Bruce == Bruce Ernest Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bruce J-Marc Happy to carry out the correspondence in the list but I
Bruce suspect that I am guilty of not providing enough
Bruce information.Not really sure of the etiquette and reluctant to
Bruce lead the list readers on a wild goose chase.
Writing on the list is always better (I readded it) because:
1/ people actually learn from what we write
2/ maybe someone else will step up to help me :)
Bruce Plugged your script into LayoutDocumentLaTeX preamble like
Bruce this:
Bruce \usepackage{remreset}
Bruce \renewcommand{thesection}{Article \Roman{section}}
Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bruce (Blind copying here as I do not understand apart from what I
Bruce read)
So blind that you forgot a \ before thesection on the second line :)
Bruce Now, the bit that I did not clearly set out is that I am using
Bruce Document class 'book (mwbk)' which may have made a difference
Bruce to your response? Another point is that while the Section* do
Bruce not appear in Lyx's Content Table they are in the dvi and in
Bruce the page headings. (Which is the reason why I want the opt.)
mwbk is a document class that is supposed to be tailored for books
written in Polish. I doubt this is what you want to do. If you want a
high quality and customizable class, I suggest to look up memoir. It
has a great manual that first explains how to typeset a book and
second how to use memoir commands.
Note that some memoir commands are not (yet) supported transparently
by LyX.
Bruce Would the purchase of the TeXbook be the next step? Or should I
Bruce just go back to the LyX Help files and chase down ERT
Bruce explanations?
I think the fix I pointed above will be sufficient to get you started.
If you want to read about LaTeX, the TeXbook is definitely not the
first book to read. You could maybe try the not so short introduction
to LaTeX
http://www.tug.org/tex-archive/info/lshort/english/lshort.pdf
or the memoir class documentation
http://www.tug.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/memoir/memman.pdf
JMarc
Re: 6.3 Specifying Short Titles with Optional Arguments
JMarc,
Many thanks; I shall fire up and try your first recommended approach.
Will post outcome here for future readers.
Bruce W
On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 13:15 +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Bruce == Bruce Ernest Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bruce The captioned reference, from the User Guide, appears clear
Bruce enough and works well in the Section environment but the
Bruce option is, as far as I can see, not available in the Section*
Bruce environment.
Bruce Not sure of the rationale for this decision.
Section* layouts do not appear in the table of contents, and LaTeX
does not offer a way of specifying an optional caption in these cases.
Therefore there is not much we can do about it.
Bruce My problem is typesetting an old-fashioned book where, for the
Bruce their pains, the authors- translators have chosen to head each
Bruce separate article along the lines of Article XXIV - The old
Bruce system of wars of position and the modern system of marches
Bruce and the Roman numerals run sequentially (regardless of chapter)
Bruce through the book.
You can use normal Section and redefine at LaTeX level how sections
appear. Something like this in the preamble
\usepackage{remreset}
\renewcommand{\thesection}{Article \Roman{section}}
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
will do what you want with normal Section layout, although it will not
show on screen (in 1.4.0 it will be possible to see the right thing on
screen if you make a (short) layout file).
Concerning not resetting sections, you can also use the article class
and use parts instead of chapters. Then your preamble can be just
\renewcommand{\thesection}{Article \Roman{section}}
Hope this helps.
JMarc
Re: 6.3 Short titles
Bruce == Bruce Ernest Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bruce J-Marc Happy to carry out the correspondence in the list but I
Bruce suspect that I am guilty of not providing enough
Bruce information.Not really sure of the etiquette and reluctant to
Bruce lead the list readers on a wild goose chase.
Writing on the list is always better (I readded it) because:
1/ people actually learn from what we write
2/ maybe someone else will step up to help me :)
Bruce Plugged your script into LayoutDocumentLaTeX preamble like
Bruce this:
Bruce \usepackage{remreset}
Bruce \renewcommand{thesection}{Article \Roman{section}}
Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bruce (Blind copying here as I do not understand apart from what I
Bruce read)
So blind that you forgot a \ before thesection on the second line :)
Bruce Now, the bit that I did not clearly set out is that I am using
Bruce Document class 'book (mwbk)' which may have made a difference
Bruce to your response? Another point is that while the Section* do
Bruce not appear in Lyx's Content Table they are in the dvi and in
Bruce the page headings. (Which is the reason why I want the opt.)
mwbk is a document class that is supposed to be tailored for books
written in Polish. I doubt this is what you want to do. If you want a
high quality and customizable class, I suggest to look up memoir. It
has a great manual that first explains how to typeset a book and
second how to use memoir commands.
Note that some memoir commands are not (yet) supported transparently
by LyX.
Bruce Would the purchase of the TeXbook be the next step? Or should I
Bruce just go back to the LyX Help files and chase down ERT
Bruce explanations?
I think the fix I pointed above will be sufficient to get you started.
If you want to read about LaTeX, the TeXbook is definitely not the
first book to read. You could maybe try the not so short introduction
to LaTeX
http://www.tug.org/tex-archive/info/lshort/english/lshort.pdf
or the memoir class documentation
http://www.tug.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/memoir/memman.pdf
JMarc
Re: 6.3 Specifying Short Titles with Optional Arguments
JMarc,
Many thanks; I shall fire up and try your first recommended approach.
Will post outcome here for future readers.
Bruce W
On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 13:15 +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > "Bruce" == Bruce Ernest Weller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Bruce> The captioned reference, from the User Guide, appears clear
> Bruce> enough and works well in the "Section" environment but the
> Bruce> option is, as far as I can see, not available in the "Section*"
> Bruce> environment.
>
> Bruce> Not sure of the rationale for this decision.
>
> Section* layouts do not appear in the table of contents, and LaTeX
> does not offer a way of specifying an optional caption in these cases.
> Therefore there is not much we can do about it.
>
> Bruce> My problem is typesetting an old-fashioned book where, for the
> Bruce> their pains, the authors- translators have chosen to head each
> Bruce> separate article along the lines of "Article XXIV - The old
> Bruce> system of wars of position and the modern system of marches"
> Bruce> and the Roman numerals run sequentially (regardless of chapter)
> Bruce> through the book.
>
> You can use normal Section and redefine at LaTeX level how sections
> appear. Something like this in the preamble
> \usepackage{remreset}
> \renewcommand{\thesection}{Article \Roman{section}}
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> will do what you want with normal Section layout, although it will not
> show on screen (in 1.4.0 it will be possible to see the right thing on
> screen if you make a (short) layout file).
>
> Concerning not resetting sections, you can also use the article class
> and use parts instead of chapters. Then your preamble can be just
> \renewcommand{\thesection}{Article \Roman{section}}
>
> Hope this helps.
> JMarc
Re: 6.3 Short titles
> "Bruce" == Bruce Ernest Weller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Bruce> J-Marc Happy to carry out the correspondence in the list but I
Bruce> suspect that I am guilty of not providing enough
Bruce> information.Not really sure of the etiquette and reluctant to
Bruce> lead the list readers on a wild goose chase.
Writing on the list is always better (I readded it) because:
1/ people actually learn from what we write
2/ maybe someone else will step up to help me :)
Bruce> Plugged your script into >Layout>Document>LaTeX preamble like
Bruce> this:
Bruce> \usepackage{remreset}
Bruce> \renewcommand{thesection}{Article \Roman{section}}
Bruce> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bruce> (Blind copying here as I do not understand apart from what I
Bruce> read)
So blind that you forgot a \ before "thesection" on the second line :)
Bruce> Now, the bit that I did not clearly set out is that I am using
Bruce> Document class 'book (mwbk)' which may have made a difference
Bruce> to your response? Another point is that while the Section* do
Bruce> not appear in Lyx's Content Table they are in the dvi and in
Bruce> the page headings. (Which is the reason why I want the opt.)
mwbk is a document class that is supposed to be tailored for books
written in Polish. I doubt this is what you want to do. If you want a
high quality and customizable class, I suggest to look up memoir. It
has a great manual that first explains how to typeset a book and
second how to use memoir commands.
Note that some memoir commands are not (yet) supported transparently
by LyX.
Bruce> Would the purchase of the TeXbook be the next step? Or should I
Bruce> just go back to the LyX Help files and chase down ERT
Bruce> explanations?
I think the fix I pointed above will be sufficient to get you started.
If you want to read about LaTeX, the TeXbook is definitely not the
first book to read. You could maybe try the not so short introduction
to LaTeX
http://www.tug.org/tex-archive/info/lshort/english/lshort.pdf
or the memoir class documentation
http://www.tug.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/memoir/memman.pdf
JMarc
6.3 Specifying Short Titles with Optional Arguments
The captioned reference, from the User Guide, appears clear enough and works well in the Section environment but the option is, as far as I can see, not available in the Section* environment. Not sure of the rationale for this decision. My problem is typesetting an old-fashioned book where, for the their pains, the authors- translators have chosen to head each separate article along the lines of Article XXIV - The old system of wars of position and the modern system of marches and the Roman numerals run sequentially (regardless of chapter) through the book. Can I force the opt box into the Section* environment or should I try to work out how to number (Roman) the Section* environments independently of the Chapters? I have been unable to locate any obvious reference to either approach (or to think of another). I would be grateful for any hints for this little glitch ---I am reluctant to lose the slightly antique flavour of the book by tampering too much with the style adopted. -- Bruce Weller
Re: 6.3 Specifying Short Titles with Optional Arguments
Bruce == Bruce Ernest Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bruce The captioned reference, from the User Guide, appears clear
Bruce enough and works well in the Section environment but the
Bruce option is, as far as I can see, not available in the Section*
Bruce environment.
Bruce Not sure of the rationale for this decision.
Section* layouts do not appear in the table of contents, and LaTeX
does not offer a way of specifying an optional caption in these cases.
Therefore there is not much we can do about it.
Bruce My problem is typesetting an old-fashioned book where, for the
Bruce their pains, the authors- translators have chosen to head each
Bruce separate article along the lines of Article XXIV - The old
Bruce system of wars of position and the modern system of marches
Bruce and the Roman numerals run sequentially (regardless of chapter)
Bruce through the book.
You can use normal Section and redefine at LaTeX level how sections
appear. Something like this in the preamble
\usepackage{remreset}
\renewcommand{\thesection}{Article \Roman{section}}
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
will do what you want with normal Section layout, although it will not
show on screen (in 1.4.0 it will be possible to see the right thing on
screen if you make a (short) layout file).
Concerning not resetting sections, you can also use the article class
and use parts instead of chapters. Then your preamble can be just
\renewcommand{\thesection}{Article \Roman{section}}
Hope this helps.
JMarc
6.3 Specifying Short Titles with Optional Arguments
The captioned reference, from the User Guide, appears clear enough and works well in the Section environment but the option is, as far as I can see, not available in the Section* environment. Not sure of the rationale for this decision. My problem is typesetting an old-fashioned book where, for the their pains, the authors- translators have chosen to head each separate article along the lines of Article XXIV - The old system of wars of position and the modern system of marches and the Roman numerals run sequentially (regardless of chapter) through the book. Can I force the opt box into the Section* environment or should I try to work out how to number (Roman) the Section* environments independently of the Chapters? I have been unable to locate any obvious reference to either approach (or to think of another). I would be grateful for any hints for this little glitch ---I am reluctant to lose the slightly antique flavour of the book by tampering too much with the style adopted. -- Bruce Weller
Re: 6.3 Specifying Short Titles with Optional Arguments
Bruce == Bruce Ernest Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bruce The captioned reference, from the User Guide, appears clear
Bruce enough and works well in the Section environment but the
Bruce option is, as far as I can see, not available in the Section*
Bruce environment.
Bruce Not sure of the rationale for this decision.
Section* layouts do not appear in the table of contents, and LaTeX
does not offer a way of specifying an optional caption in these cases.
Therefore there is not much we can do about it.
Bruce My problem is typesetting an old-fashioned book where, for the
Bruce their pains, the authors- translators have chosen to head each
Bruce separate article along the lines of Article XXIV - The old
Bruce system of wars of position and the modern system of marches
Bruce and the Roman numerals run sequentially (regardless of chapter)
Bruce through the book.
You can use normal Section and redefine at LaTeX level how sections
appear. Something like this in the preamble
\usepackage{remreset}
\renewcommand{\thesection}{Article \Roman{section}}
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
will do what you want with normal Section layout, although it will not
show on screen (in 1.4.0 it will be possible to see the right thing on
screen if you make a (short) layout file).
Concerning not resetting sections, you can also use the article class
and use parts instead of chapters. Then your preamble can be just
\renewcommand{\thesection}{Article \Roman{section}}
Hope this helps.
JMarc
6.3 Specifying Short Titles with Optional Arguments
The captioned reference, from the User Guide, appears clear enough and works well in the "Section" environment but the option is, as far as I can see, not available in the "Section*" environment. Not sure of the rationale for this decision. My problem is typesetting an old-fashioned book where, for the their pains, the authors- translators have chosen to head each separate article along the lines of "Article XXIV - The old system of wars of position and the modern system of marches" and the Roman numerals run sequentially (regardless of chapter) through the book. Can I force the "opt" box into the "Section*" environment or should I try to work out how to number (Roman) the "Section*" environments independently of the Chapters? I have been unable to locate any obvious reference to either approach (or to think of another). I would be grateful for any hints for this little glitch ---I am reluctant to lose the slightly antique flavour of the book by tampering too much with the style adopted. -- Bruce Weller
Re: 6.3 Specifying Short Titles with Optional Arguments
> "Bruce" == Bruce Ernest Weller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Bruce> The captioned reference, from the User Guide, appears clear
Bruce> enough and works well in the "Section" environment but the
Bruce> option is, as far as I can see, not available in the "Section*"
Bruce> environment.
Bruce> Not sure of the rationale for this decision.
Section* layouts do not appear in the table of contents, and LaTeX
does not offer a way of specifying an optional caption in these cases.
Therefore there is not much we can do about it.
Bruce> My problem is typesetting an old-fashioned book where, for the
Bruce> their pains, the authors- translators have chosen to head each
Bruce> separate article along the lines of "Article XXIV - The old
Bruce> system of wars of position and the modern system of marches"
Bruce> and the Roman numerals run sequentially (regardless of chapter)
Bruce> through the book.
You can use normal Section and redefine at LaTeX level how sections
appear. Something like this in the preamble
\usepackage{remreset}
\renewcommand{\thesection}{Article \Roman{section}}
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
will do what you want with normal Section layout, although it will not
show on screen (in 1.4.0 it will be possible to see the right thing on
screen if you make a (short) layout file).
Concerning not resetting sections, you can also use the article class
and use parts instead of chapters. Then your preamble can be just
\renewcommand{\thesection}{Article \Roman{section}}
Hope this helps.
JMarc
Re: Short titles
Rich Shepard wrote: Is is possible to configure the short titles so they are used only on page headers while the full title is used in the Table of Contents In 1.3.x, you have to use ERT. See attached. In 1.4.x this will be supported natively, although at the moment it crashes ;-) -- Angus rich_13x.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: Short titles
Angus Leeming wrote: Is is possible to configure the short titles so they are used only on page headers while the full title is used in the Table of Contents In 1.3.x, you have to use ERT. See attached. What what what? Insert-Short title. Jürgen.
Re: Short titles
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: Angus Leeming wrote: Is is possible to configure the short titles so they are used only on page headers while the full title is used in the Table of Contents In 1.3.x, you have to use ERT. See attached. What what what? Insert-Short title. Must be sleepy ;-) I thought that this was a 1.4.x goodie. -- Angus
Re: Short titles
Rich Shepard wrote: Is is possible to configure the short titles so they are used only on page headers while the full title is used in the Table of Contents In 1.3.x, you have to use ERT. See attached. In 1.4.x this will be supported natively, although at the moment it crashes ;-) -- Angus rich_13x.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: Short titles
Angus Leeming wrote: Is is possible to configure the short titles so they are used only on page headers while the full title is used in the Table of Contents In 1.3.x, you have to use ERT. See attached. What what what? Insert-Short title. Jürgen.
Re: Short titles
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: Angus Leeming wrote: Is is possible to configure the short titles so they are used only on page headers while the full title is used in the Table of Contents In 1.3.x, you have to use ERT. See attached. What what what? Insert-Short title. Must be sleepy ;-) I thought that this was a 1.4.x goodie. -- Angus
Re: Short titles
Rich Shepard wrote: > Is is possible to configure the short titles so they are used only > on page headers while the full title is used in the Table of > Contents In 1.3.x, you have to use ERT. See attached. In 1.4.x this will be supported natively, although at the moment it crashes ;-) -- Angus rich_13x.lyx Description: application/lyx
Re: Short titles
Angus Leeming wrote: > > Is is possible to configure the short titles so they are used only > > on page headers while the full title is used in the Table of > > Contents > > In 1.3.x, you have to use ERT. See attached. What what what? Insert->Short title. Jürgen.
Re: Short titles
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: > Angus Leeming wrote: >> > Is is possible to configure the short titles so they are used >> > only on page headers while the full title is used in the Table of >> > Contents >> >> In 1.3.x, you have to use ERT. See attached. > > What what what? Insert->Short title. Must be sleepy ;-) I thought that this was a 1.4.x goodie. -- Angus
Short titles
Is is possible to configure the short titles so they are used only on page headers while the full title is used in the Table of Contents? Thanks, Rich -- Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM) http://www.appl-ecosys.com
Short titles
Is is possible to configure the short titles so they are used only on page headers while the full title is used in the Table of Contents? Thanks, Rich -- Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM) http://www.appl-ecosys.com
Short titles
Is is possible to configure the short titles so they are used only on page headers while the full title is used in the Table of Contents? Thanks, Rich -- Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM) <http://www.appl-ecosys.com>
Short titles
To solve my problems with running heads (sometimes they print on two lines, sometimes on a single, overlapping line) I decided to use short titles. According to the Users Guide (version 1.3.2), I end up with short titles not only on each page's running head but also in the Table of Contents. Is there a LaTeX command that will print the long titles in the ToC but leave the short titles in the running head? TIA, Rich Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM) 2404 SW 22nd Street | Troutdale, OR 97060-1247 | U.S.A. + 1 503-667-4517 (voice) | + 1 503-667-8863 (fax) | rshepard#64;appl-ecosys.com http://www.appl-ecosys.com/
Short titles
To solve my problems with running heads (sometimes they print on two lines, sometimes on a single, overlapping line) I decided to use short titles. According to the Users Guide (version 1.3.2), I end up with short titles not only on each page's running head but also in the Table of Contents. Is there a LaTeX command that will print the long titles in the ToC but leave the short titles in the running head? TIA, Rich Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM) 2404 SW 22nd Street | Troutdale, OR 97060-1247 | U.S.A. + 1 503-667-4517 (voice) | + 1 503-667-8863 (fax) | rshepard#64;appl-ecosys.com http://www.appl-ecosys.com/
Short titles
To solve my problems with running heads (sometimes they print on two lines, sometimes on a single, overlapping line) I decided to use short titles. According to the Users Guide (version 1.3.2), I end up with short titles not only on each page's running head but also in the Table of Contents. Is there a LaTeX command that will print the long titles in the ToC but leave the short titles in the running head? TIA, Rich Dr. Richard B. Shepard, President Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. (TM) 2404 SW 22nd Street | Troutdale, OR 97060-1247 | U.S.A. + 1 503-667-4517 (voice) | + 1 503-667-8863 (fax) | rshepardappl-ecosys.com http://www.appl-ecosys.com/
Re: short titles in headers, but not in TOC
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
Pedro Tejedor wrote:
¿is there a way to use the short titles only in headers, but not in TOC?
use \chaptermark{Short Title} or \sectionmark{Short Title} in ERT just below
the title.
Juergen.
Thanks, Dekel,
that worked.
Pedro
Re: short titles in headers, but not in TOC
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
Pedro Tejedor wrote:
¿is there a way to use the short titles only in headers, but not in TOC?
use \chaptermark{Short Title} or \sectionmark{Short Title} in ERT just below
the title.
Juergen.
Thanks, Dekel,
that worked.
Pedro
Re: short titles in headers, but not in TOC
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
Pedro Tejedor wrote:
¿is there a way to use the short titles only in headers, but not in TOC?
use \chaptermark{Short Title} or \sectionmark{Short Title} in ERT just below
the title.
Juergen.
Thanks, Dekel,
that worked.
Pedro
Re: how to add short titles to titles ?
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes writes: If you can wait until 1.3.1, you will be able to specify TitleLatexName maketitlepage in your layout file. JMarc PS: if you come up with what you think is a good hermes style, feel free to submit it for LyX :) Thank you again Jean-Marc. Yes, I can submit the layout, but it only works with specific preferences (with almost every think desabled). Is it possible to modify LyX preferences for only one document ? for only one layout ? regards, --Nabil Hathout
Re: how to add short titles to titles ?
Nabil == Nabil Hathout [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nabil Thank you again Jean-Marc. Yes, I can submit the layout, but it Nabil only works with specific preferences (with almost every think Nabil desabled). What do you mean? What preferences? Nabil Is it possible to modify LyX preferences for only one document Nabil ? for only one layout ? I do not think so. JMarc
Re: how to add short titles to titles ?
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes writes: If you can wait until 1.3.1, you will be able to specify TitleLatexName maketitlepage in your layout file. JMarc PS: if you come up with what you think is a good hermes style, feel free to submit it for LyX :) Thank you again Jean-Marc. Yes, I can submit the layout, but it only works with specific preferences (with almost every think desabled). Is it possible to modify LyX preferences for only one document ? for only one layout ? regards, --Nabil Hathout
Re: how to add short titles to titles ?
Nabil == Nabil Hathout [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nabil Thank you again Jean-Marc. Yes, I can submit the layout, but it Nabil only works with specific preferences (with almost every think Nabil desabled). What do you mean? What preferences? Nabil Is it possible to modify LyX preferences for only one document Nabil ? for only one layout ? I do not think so. JMarc
Re: how to add short titles to titles ?
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes writes: > If you can wait until 1.3.1, you will be able to specify > TitleLatexName "maketitlepage" > in your layout file. > > JMarc > > PS: if you come up with what you think is a good hermes style, feel > free to submit it for LyX :) Thank you again Jean-Marc. Yes, I can submit the layout, but it only works with specific preferences (with almost every think desabled). Is it possible to modify LyX preferences for only one document ? for only one layout ? regards, --Nabil Hathout
Re: how to add short titles to titles ?
> "Nabil" == Nabil Hathout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Nabil> Thank you again Jean-Marc. Yes, I can submit the layout, but it Nabil> only works with specific preferences (with almost every think Nabil> desabled). What do you mean? What preferences? Nabil> Is it possible to modify LyX preferences for only one document Nabil> ? for only one layout ? I do not think so. JMarc
how to add short titles to titles ?
Hello, I have to add an obligatory short title to article title. Is it possible to modify the article layout to do so ? Thank you for your help, regards, --Nabil Hathout
Re: how to add short titles to titles ?
Nabil == Nabil Hathout [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nabil Hello, I have to add an obligatory short title to article Nabil title. Is it possible to modify the article layout to do so ? Could you show us the latex syntax? JMarc
Re: how to add short titles to titles ?
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes writes:
Nabil == Nabil Hathout [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Nabil Hello, I have to add an obligatory short title to article
Nabil title. Is it possible to modify the article layout to do so ?
Could you show us the latex syntax?
\title[Short Title]{Full Title}
--Nabil
Re: how to add short titles to titles ?
Nabil == Nabil Hathout [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Nabil Jean-Marc Lasgouttes writes:
Nabil == Nabil Hathout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Nabil Hello, I have to add an obligatory short title to article
Nabil title. Is it possible to modify the article layout to do so ?
Could you show us the latex syntax?
Nabil \title[Short Title]{Full Title}
In the definition of the Title style, add
OptionalArgs 1
Then you will be able to use InsertShort title to insert your shorrt
version. This will be documented in 1.3.1.
Does this suggestion help?
JMarc
Re: how to add short titles to titles ?
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes writes:
Nabil == Nabil Hathout [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Nabil Jean-Marc Lasgouttes writes:
Nabil == Nabil Hathout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Nabil Hello, I have to add an obligatory short title to article
Nabil title. Is it possible to modify the article layout to do so ?
Could you show us the latex syntax?
Nabil \title[Short Title]{Full Title}
In the definition of the Title style, add
OptionalArgs 1
Then you will be able to use InsertShort title to insert your shorrt
version. This will be documented in 1.3.1.
Does this suggestion help?
Yes, thank you very much.
I have a last question (for now). In order to make Lyx not generate
\maketitle, I have had to change the names of some of the styles
(eg. HermesTitle instead of Title). Is there a cleaner way to diseable the
\maketitle generation.
--Nabil
Re: how to add short titles to titles ?
Nabil == Nabil Hathout [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nabil I have a last question (for now). In order to make Lyx not Nabil generate \maketitle, I have had to change the names of some of Nabil the styles (eg. HermesTitle instead of Title). Is there a Nabil cleaner way to diseable the \maketitle generation. You can set InTitle 0 or remove any 'InTitle 1' in the title layouts. Can you tell me how titles work in hermes? JMarc
Re: how to add short titles to titles ?
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes writes: Nabil == Nabil Hathout [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nabil I have a last question (for now). In order to make Lyx not Nabil generate \maketitle, I have had to change the names of some of Nabil the styles (eg. HermesTitle instead of Title). Is there a Nabil cleaner way to diseable the \maketitle generation. You can set InTitle 0 or remove any 'InTitle 1' in the title layouts. Ok, thank you. Can you tell me how titles work in hermes? The article title is generated by \maketitlepage and not by \maketitle. I could redefine the \maketitle command but since I have to send the LaTeX file, I prefer to insert \maketitlepage as ERT. --Nabil
Re: how to add short titles to titles ?
Nabil == Nabil Hathout [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nabil Jean-Marc Lasgouttes writes: Nabil == Nabil Hathout [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nabil I have a last question (for now). In order to make Lyx not Nabil generate \maketitle, I have had to change the names of some of Nabil the styles (eg. HermesTitle instead of Title). Is there a Nabil cleaner way to diseable the \maketitle generation. You can set InTitle 0 or remove any 'InTitle 1' in the title layouts. Nabil Ok, thank you. Can you tell me how titles work in hermes? Nabil The article title is generated by \maketitlepage and not by Nabil \maketitle. I could redefine the \maketitle command but since I Nabil have to send the LaTeX file, I prefer to insert \maketitlepage Nabil as ERT. If you can wait until 1.3.1, you will be able to specify TitleLatexName maketitlepage in your layout file. JMarc PS: if you come up with what you think is a good hermes style, feel free to submit it for LyX :)
how to add short titles to titles ?
Hello, I have to add an obligatory short title to article title. Is it possible to modify the article layout to do so ? Thank you for your help, regards, --Nabil Hathout
Re: how to add short titles to titles ?
Nabil == Nabil Hathout [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nabil Hello, I have to add an obligatory short title to article Nabil title. Is it possible to modify the article layout to do so ? Could you show us the latex syntax? JMarc
