Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-09-22 Thread Brian White
I got the directory display working. https://github.com/aljex/SD2TPDD/tree/bkw_al32u4 So now it sleeps at about 2ma when idle, the light next to the card reader blinks during card access, and the spot in the top-right corner of TS-DOS shows the current directory, or "SD: " in the root dir, and

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-09-20 Thread Brian White
...yep, reducing ram usage down to 1.7k and everything is happy again... On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 12:13 AM Brian White wrote: > I think my problem was simply overfilling the small amount of ram on this > controller. > -- bkw

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-09-20 Thread Fugu ME100
Using the Arduino IDE the F() macro or equivalent is essential to store text strings otherwise you will run out of RAM fast. The SD-Card Library that is part of the IDE is a memory hog too.It does not work well on the smaller ATMEGA parts with only 2K of memory especially if you want to

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-09-20 Thread Brian White
I think my problem was simply overfilling the small amount of ram on this controller. I don't get any warning about that from the Arduino IDE at compile-upload time, but, * All the example sketches still worked fine, just this one version of my own sketch caused the problem, same laptop, without

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-09-20 Thread Kevin Becker
I’ve got a max232 I was using to talk to the GPIO pins on a raspberry pi that I was planning to use with this. I’ll most likely use Linux for the programming but I have a few Macs I can use too. No windows though. On Sep 20, 2018, at 7:12 PM, Brian White wrote: I'm continuing to hack on it, but

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-09-20 Thread Brian White
I'm continuing to hack on it, but now my own current local version isn't working any more. I'm *this* close to having the top-right corner of ts-dos display the current working dir instead of the static string "SDTPDD". But the version currently posted on github still works and does at least have

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-09-20 Thread Kevin Becker
My adafruit logger arrived today. Not sure if I'll get a chance to try this out tonight but sometime in the next few days I hope to give it a try. On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 1:04 PM, Stephen Adolph wrote: > If I were going to mount this inside the M100, I would > 1) retask the modem port to be

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-09-17 Thread Stephen Adolph
If I were going to mount this inside the M100, I would 1) retask the modem port to be directly connected to this 2) use a patched main rom to allow modem port to run at 19.2 3) directly wire it to the battery voltage (after the on/off switch) On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 11:37 AM Kevin Becker

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-09-17 Thread Kevin Becker
This is pretty cool. I think I might have to check it out. It might be an excuse to finally get a 3d printer too. On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 10:35 PM, Brian White wrote: > There's the entire kit for SD2TPDD on an Adalogger 32u4. > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/N2v6iB45pePNFQNA8 > > Bam. Couldn't

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-09-16 Thread Brian White
There's the entire kit for SD2TPDD on an Adalogger 32u4. https://photos.app.goo.gl/N2v6iB45pePNFQNA8 Bam. Couldn't be sweeter. On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 9:56 PM Brian White wrote: > SD2TPDD works without modification on an Adafruit Adalogger 32u4 > Your original code not my hacked up version I

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-09-16 Thread Brian White
SD2TPDD works without modification on an Adafruit Adalogger 32u4 Your original code not my hacked up version I mean. Even the chip select is already correct out of the box. https://www.adafruit.com/product/2795 This board doesn't have the cpu, ram, or other hardware to do some of the other facy

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-09-11 Thread Jesus R
Ken, any chance I can buy a NADSBox from you? It would really help with my WAV archiving project. Thanks, JR On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 4:51 PM, Jesus R wrote: > Thanks for the tips Ken! > > Jesus R >

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-09-10 Thread Brian White
Now that I think about this, that power drain with the M100 off is expected I guess. Resting state of the rs232 RX line is high right? So with the M100 turned off, the teensy is driving the line high while the M100 is not, so it's a continuous drain from teensy to m100. I guess I could add a DTR

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-09-10 Thread Brian White
Got the sleep working properly now. Goes right to 3ma right from power-up or reset. One last thing that isn't great about power drain is, if the teensy is connected to the M100, and the Teensy is turned on, but the M100 is turned OFF, then it draws 19 ma! But it's good with the teensy on and not

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-09-04 Thread Brian White
Forgot to say, by adding avr/sleep.h I think there might be other better low power libraries and examples. This was just my first attempt. It's not quite working right, but close. It draws 15ma on power-up until the first command is processed, then it acts like I wanted after that. It draws 3.3ma

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-09-04 Thread Brian White
I got it idling at 3.3ma. Holy crap 3.3ma! This includes the rs232 module being powered from the Teensy. This is with all the usb-serial code ifdef'd out, and the cpu clocked at 2Mhz. I'm not using RTS/CTS any more either, since TS-DOS itself doesn't. https://youtu.be/_lFqsHAlLyg On Sun, Sep 2,

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-09-02 Thread Gary Hammond
Hi All, It may also be a bug in TppdTool. It would be good to be able to replicate this so I can fix it. Cheers, Gary From: M100 On Behalf Of Brian White Sent: Monday, 3 September 2018 3:43 AM To: m...@bitchin100.com Subject: Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox) Well it turns out

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-09-02 Thread c646581
It's possible that I may have screwed up somewhere and forgotten to pad the shorter file names? I had a similar issue with short directory names and just needed to add a routine to pad it out with extra spaces. It'd be interesting to see what the directory reference return looks like when TpddTool

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-09-02 Thread Brian White
I don't see anything obvious either, but I haven't gotten methodical on it yet. What I've seen so far is: dir 0: works fine. Neither reading or writing a file works, though TpddTool thinks writes work. When reading, TpddTool generates the initial searchform that looks the same as ts-dos,

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-09-02 Thread c646581
Sorry for the inactivity. I fell off of a ladder at work and broke my ankle. I haven't been able to circle back around and catch up to the developments in this thread. I really like the idea of using a teensy instead of the Mega! There is a lot more power there for doing things like an OLED

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-09-02 Thread Brian White
Well it turns out this works fine with TS-DOS, it just doesn't work with TpddTool.py! It's strange: * TS-DOS works with a real TPDD2 (obviously) * TpddTool.py works with a real TPDD2 * TS-DOS works with SD2TPDD * TpddTool.py does not work with SD2TPDD ??? whatever I'll figure t out sooner or

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-31 Thread Brian White
LAN PARTY On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 10:42 AM Kevin Becker wrote: > I do kinda like the idea of having my house wired with an M100 LAN. There > are already unused RJ11 jacks all around the house. > > On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 10:04 AM, Kurt McCullum > wrote: > >> Yeah, but still fun to put

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-31 Thread Brian White
I managed to get it to run and satisfy Gary Hammond's TpddTool.py even running at the lowest possible clock rate of 2Mhz. At that clock rate the entire thing including the rs232/cmos tranceiver is drawing as little as 10ma when I get sleep() working. But still only about 18ma even without sleep()

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-31 Thread Kevin Becker
I do kinda like the idea of having my house wired with an M100 LAN. There are already unused RJ11 jacks all around the house. On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 10:04 AM, Kurt McCullum wrote: > Yeah, but still fun to put together! > > Kurt > > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2018, at 10:08 PM, Brian White wrote: > > >

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-31 Thread Kurt McCullum
Yeah, but still fun to put together! Kurt On Thu, Aug 30, 2018, at 10:08 PM, Brian White wrote: > > An office file server for M100's > > What a wonderfully useless project. :) > >

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-30 Thread Brian White
Dinking around with this.. it just ocurred to me that it might not be too hard to make the Teensy serve up tpdd on all 6 of it's external hardware serial ports... The Teensy only has rts/cts for 2 serial ports, so for simplicity's sake you'd just have rts/cts and dsr/dtr/cd shorted in all the

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-29 Thread Brian White
I just got your arduino code working on a Teensy 3.6, using the built-in card reader, SdFatSdioEX, hardware flow control, and even writing status/progress messages out to a little oled screen. https://photos.app.goo.gl/DaR7pHERsgNrGs718 So far, with the oled stuff enabled I can clock down to 4mhz

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-26 Thread Jesus R
Thanks for the tips Ken! Jesus R

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-26 Thread Ken Pettit
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Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-26 Thread Jesus R
et="utf-8" >> >> I have the memory modules at arcadeshopper.com and also a android based >> tpdd solution >> >> Greg >> >> On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 12:12 PM Jesus R wrote: >> >> > Team, I know I'm late to the party, but I j

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-26 Thread Brian White
rrent right now :) >> https://photos.app.goo.gl/rq2TM5cWNV8NMkyi8 >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 3:15 PM Fugu ME100 wrote: >> >>> That sounds great. What sort of current draw are you getting? Quite >>> curious. >>> >>>

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-26 Thread Josh Malone
> Running at 2mhz: > While waiting for a keypress: 18.3ma @ 5.07v > While writing to sdcard: 33-38ma @ 5.07v That's not bad by itself. This is roughly 1/3 of the current draw of the M102 itself, so maybe ~33% impact on battery life with no optimization. > This is with no special tricks to go

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-26 Thread Brian White
100 on behalf of Brian >> White >> *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 20:12 >> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com >> *Subject:* Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox) >> >> I was playing with the Teensy 3.6 some more last night and got it waiting >> &am

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-24 Thread Brian White
urious. > > -- > *From:* M100 on behalf of Brian White > > *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2018 20:12 > *To:* m...@bitchin100.com > *Subject:* Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox) > > I was playing with the Teensy 3.6 some more last night

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-24 Thread james . zeun
; > From: M100 on behalf of Brian White > > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 20:12 > To: m...@bitchin100.com > Subject: Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox) > > I was playing with the Teensy 3.6 some more last night and got it waiting & > responding t

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-24 Thread Fugu ME100
That sounds great. What sort of current draw are you getting? Quite curious. From: M100 on behalf of Brian White Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 20:12 To: m...@bitchin100.com Subject: Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox) I was playing

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-24 Thread Brian White
I was playing with the Teensy 3.6 some more last night and got it waiting & responding to commands by serial (the built-in ftdi usb-serial not via max232 yet), reading/writing to files in a fat32 fs on the sd, blinking the on-board led during drive activity, and displaying text on a tiny 128x64

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-24 Thread Fugu ME100
4, 2018 at 4:31 AM To: mailto:m...@bitchin100.com>> Subject: Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox) If you need power, how much are we talking? Could you not just use AA's? The TPDD uses 2xAA :-) On Fri, 24 Aug 2018, 3:37 a.m. Brian White, mailto:bw.al...@gmail.com>>

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-24 Thread James Zeun
If you need power, how much are we talking? Could you not just use AA's? The TPDD uses 2xAA :-) On Fri, 24 Aug 2018, 3:37 a.m. Brian White, wrote: > That's what I would say if using an sbc (pi) instead of a microcontroller > (arduino). > But even these microcontrollers are more powerful cpus

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-23 Thread Brian White
That's what I would say if using an sbc (pi) instead of a microcontroller (arduino). But even these microcontrollers are more powerful cpus and have more ram than the host machine in this case, but then again, ever since day one, peripherals have always had their own cpus that were at least the

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-23 Thread Josh Malone
I think you would be much better off pulling power from the bar code port. I've successfully run a WiFi 232 off that port with a simple cable. Sure, it's not as pretty with another cable to connect, but it's still highly portable. Or just run it off an AA battery and a boost regulator. Mark Blair

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-23 Thread Ken Pettit
The series resistors in the Model T series portables are too large to sipheon off anything but low micro amps. Ken On 8/23/18 4:37 PM, Brian White wrote: I'm playing with Teensy 3.5 and 3.6 myself right now. They have sd slot built in and, and of course serial minus the max232, and seemingly

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-23 Thread Brian White
I'm playing with Teensy 3.5 and 3.6 myself right now. They have sd slot built in and, and of course serial minus the max232, and seemingly gobs more cpu and ram than needed for this task, considering what a real tpdd itself has to do almost the same job. And unlike Tinyduino, the io pins are all

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-21 Thread Brian White
This looks great! On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 4:31 PM c646581 wrote: > I have a project that uses an Arduino Mega to emulate a TPDD. > > https://github.com/TangentDelta/SD2TPDD > > I have plans to eventually sell easy-to-use shields that provide the RS232 > level shifting and SD card interface. > >

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-21 Thread John Gardner
Feel better now? "8) OK, suit yourself. On 8/21/18, Brian White wrote: > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 8:16 PM John Gardner wrote: > > Brian, here's an idea - How about junking the html so I can read > > your interesting posts without converting them to text files first... > > Just a suggestion -

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-21 Thread Brian White
On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 8:16 PM John Gardner wrote: Brian, here's an idea - How about junking the html so I can read your interesting posts without converting them to text files first... Just a suggestion - My 70-year-old eyesight would appreciate it. Ok, just remember who started this

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-20 Thread Daryl Tester
On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 19:16:31 -0500, John Gardner wrote: Brian, here's an idea - How about junking the html so I can read your interesting posts without converting them to text files first... Just a suggestion - My 70-year-old eyesight would appreciate it. Brian's emails have both text and

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-20 Thread John Gardner
Brian, here's an idea - How about junking the html so I can read your interesting posts without converting them to text files first... Just a suggestion - My 70-year-old eyesight would appreciate it. thanks, Jack On 8/20/18, c646581 wrote: > I'm sure it'd be possible to program a M100

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-20 Thread c646581
I'm sure it'd be possible to program a M100 simulator for the Arduino/Arduino Mega, but it'd be difficult and have tons of overhead. Running one of the off-the-shelf simulators on a Raspberry Pi is much more doable, but you're just slaving a much more powerful device to the M100. I like using

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-20 Thread Jeff Gonzales
Yeah, but if you're bringing an Arduino into the picture why not just build a new unit around it? Or gut an m100 and use it directly with the keyboard and screen? On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 4:38 PM, Kurt McCullum wrote: > Not for loading and storing files. That requires a TPDD client running on >

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-20 Thread Kurt McCullum
Not for loading and storing files. That requires a TPDD client running on the m100. But when you go to TELCOM to do anything, you are basically a vt52 terminal. Kurt On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Jeff Gonzales wrote: > at this point is the m100 just a keyboard/dumb terminal? > > On Mon, Aug

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-20 Thread Jeff Gonzales
at this point is the m100 just a keyboard/dumb terminal? On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 4:31 PM, c646581 wrote: > I have a project that uses an Arduino Mega to emulate a TPDD. > > https://github.com/TangentDelta/SD2TPDD > > I have plans to eventually sell easy-to-use shields that provide the RS232 >

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-20 Thread c646581
I have a project that uses an Arduino Mega to emulate a TPDD. https://github.com/TangentDelta/SD2TPDD I have plans to eventually sell easy-to-use shields that provide the RS232 level shifting and SD card interface. On Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 16:02 Brian White wrote: > A tpdd emulated in low level

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-20 Thread Brian White
A tpdd emulated in low level basic hardware in line with the tpdd itself really appeals to me. I would love to try to make it work on a tinyduino, or maybe a gotek. Tinyduino may not seem "basic" being so small and modern, but it's a microcontroller not a PC. It doesn't run linux and systemd and

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-20 Thread Kurt McCullum
Even though NADSBox units are not available currently, there are alternatives. LaddieAlpha runs on multiple platforms (Windows/Linux/Raspberry Pi) and provides full TPDD support. There are two versions of mComm, one for Windows and one for Android. The Android version can be used on a smart phone

Re: [M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-20 Thread Gregory McGill
I have the memory modules at arcadeshopper.com and also a android based tpdd solution Greg On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 12:12 PM Jesus R wrote: > Team, I know I'm late to the party, but I just purchased a T100 and it > should arrive soon:) I noticed the NADSBox has been discontinued or out of >

[M100] New Age Digital Storage Box (NADSBox)

2018-08-18 Thread Jesus R
Team, I know I'm late to the party, but I just purchased a T100 and it should arrive soon:) I noticed the NADSBox has been discontinued or out of stock. I'm happy to help to get more made and the proceeds can all go to the club. Is there anyone to talk to about the design and firmware? Also,