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2018-03-20 Thread Chris Kmiec
t;> On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 4:37 PM, Gregory McGill >> > wrote: >>> >>>> It works! I just cleaned it a bit and worked out the gunk and it >>>> started charging the battery and booting up :) yay! >>>> >>>> >>>> >&g

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2018-03-20 Thread Steven Ranft
If it is going to be open anyhow, I would spend the extra 10 minutes. Don't sweat the petty stuff... Steve Steve Ranft Savage, MN From: M100 on behalf of Kevin Becker Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 9:06 PM To: m...@bitchin100.com Subject: Re: [

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2018-03-20 Thread Kevin Becker
.. >>>> >>>> yeah It either needs cleaning or replaced I think >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Fugu ME100 >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Or it may need some contact cleaner. >>>>> >>>>> From: M100 on behalf of "John R. >>>>> Hogerhuis" >>>>> Reply-To: >>>>> Date: Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 12:01 PM >>>>> To: >>>>> Subject: Re: [M100] batteries... >>>>> >>>>> I assume the “memory power” switch is turned on? >>>>> >>>>> :-) >>>>> >>>>> — John. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>

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2018-03-19 Thread Brian White
l be hard to replace. >>> >>> From: M100 on behalf of Gregory >>> McGill >>> Reply-To: >>> Date: Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 2:44 PM >>> To: >>> Subject: Re: [M100] batteries... >>> >>> yeah It either needs cleaning or re

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2018-03-19 Thread Chris Kmiec
ehalf of Gregory >> McGill >> Reply-To: >> Date: Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 2:44 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: [M100] batteries... >> >> yeah It either needs cleaning or replaced I think >> >> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Fugu ME100 wro

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2018-03-17 Thread Gregory McGill
> McGill > Reply-To: > Date: Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 2:44 PM > To: > Subject: Re: [M100] batteries... > > yeah It either needs cleaning or replaced I think > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Fugu ME100 wrote: > >> Or it may need some contact cleaner. >>

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2018-03-15 Thread Fugu ME100
to:m...@bitchin100.com>> Subject: Re: [M100] batteries... yeah It either needs cleaning or replaced I think On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Fugu ME100 mailto:b4me...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Or it may need some contact cleaner. From: M100 mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com>&

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2018-03-15 Thread Gregory McGill
yeah It either needs cleaning or replaced I think On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Fugu ME100 wrote: > Or it may need some contact cleaner. > > From: M100 on behalf of "John R. > Hogerhuis" > Reply-To: > Date: Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 12:01 PM > To:

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2018-03-15 Thread Fugu ME100
Or it may need some contact cleaner. From: M100 mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com>> on behalf of "John R. Hogerhuis" mailto:jho...@pobox.com>> Reply-To: mailto:m...@bitchin100.com>> Date: Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 12:01 PM To: mailto:m...@bitchin100.com>

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2018-03-15 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
I assume the “memory power” switch is turned on? :-) — John.

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2018-03-15 Thread Gregory McGill
Ok I got my new battery installed and it seems to be not getting power from the external to charge, i followed the external voltage to next to the switch.. any gotchas? Greg On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 11:01 PM, Gregory McGill wrote: > so I decided to take apart my m100 that has 8k of ram to see wha

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2018-03-13 Thread Jonathan Yuen
: den 12 mars 2018 22:29 Till: m...@bitchin100.com Ämne: Re: [M100] batteries... Agreed. There are some differences between NiCd and NiMH charging recommendations, but according to the Panasonic literature the standby Trickle charging currents are exactly the same. m - Original Message -

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2018-03-13 Thread Brian White
> *From:* Fugu ME100 > *To:* m...@bitchin100.com > *Sent:* Monday, March 12, 2018 4:21 PM > *Subject:* Re: [M100] batteries... > > Where is that stated about Trickle Charging, I don’t see it in the M102 > manual? > > I can find the section on pg 1-7 where it says "Cha

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2018-03-12 Thread Mike Stein
: Monday, March 12, 2018 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [M100] batteries... Where is that stated about Trickle Charging, I don’t see it in the M102 manual? I can find the section on pg 1-7 where it says "Charging current 1.2mA (typ)". Which is in line with an average current however it

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2018-03-12 Thread Gregory McGill
ld NiCd. The initial charge might be slower for NiMH compared > to NiCd but that is not really an issue in this application it is merely > acting as a backup battery. > > > > From: M100 on behalf of George > Michael Rimakis > Reply-To: > Date: Monday, March 12, 2018

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2018-03-12 Thread Fugu ME100
gt; Reply-To: mailto:m...@bitchin100.com>> Date: Monday, March 12, 2018 at 12:11 PM To: mailto:m...@bitchin100.com>> Subject: Re: [M100] batteries... The M102 service manual says the trickle charge is at 1.2mA, and some batteries may not be as tolerant. On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 3:54 PM, Fugu

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2018-03-12 Thread George Michael Rimakis
would NiCd. The initial charge might be slower for NiMH compared > to NiCd but that is not really an issue in this application it is merely > acting as a backup battery. > > > > From: M100 on behalf of George > Michael Rimakis > Reply-To: > Date: Monday, March

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2018-03-12 Thread Fugu ME100
tions of Energizer the charge should be mailto:m100-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com>> on behalf of George Michael Rimakis mailto:grima...@gmail.com>> Reply-To: mailto:m...@bitchin100.com>> Date: Monday, March 12, 2018 at 10:10 AM To: mailto:m...@bitchin100.com>> Subject: Re

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2018-03-12 Thread Josh Malone
> Most manufacturers advise against trickle-charging NiMH >> The thing about NiMH, is the level of trickle charge that they can tolerate >> is a bit less than NiCD. Might not be good in the long run. Oh - right. This is why I haven't replaced my battery yet: no clear consensus on what's the appro

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2018-03-12 Thread Kevin Becker
My replacement battery specifically said NiCd when I ordered it. I never even looked at the battery when I installed it, but coincidentally just this past weekend I happened to look closely at the 2nd one (it came in a 2 pack) and noticed it was NiMH not NiCd. I was planning to to some research t

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2018-03-12 Thread John Gardner
Most manufacturers advise against trickle-charging NiMH ... . On 3/12/18, George Michael Rimakis wrote: > The thing about NiMH, is the level of trickle charge that they can tolerate > is a bit less than NiCD. Might not be good in the long run. > > On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 5:00 PM, Jim Anderson

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2018-03-12 Thread George Michael Rimakis
The thing about NiMH, is the level of trickle charge that they can tolerate is a bit less than NiCD. Might not be good in the long run. On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 5:00 PM, Jim Anderson wrote: > > -Original Message- > > > > This brings up an interesting point. Having just replaced my NiCad I

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2018-03-09 Thread Jim Anderson
> -Original Message- > > This brings up an interesting point.  Having just replaced my NiCad I > think I'm going to use my label maker to leave a note about when it was > replaced under the battery door. I like to do this anyway (and not just with m100s), because I find myself struggling

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2018-03-09 Thread Brian White
I wonder if nimh leak the way nicd do eventually? My replacement batteries are all nimh instead of the original nicd. Or, if a new nimh or nicd is actually certain to leak in 20 or 30 years just because the original ones did? Maybe better tech means they won't leak? Or maybe the opposite, maybe mo

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2018-03-09 Thread Josh Malone
I really need to replace my nicad. Thanks for the reminder thread.

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2018-03-09 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Brian White wrote: > > It's arguable both ways though. You could say that by removing the > battery, you are removing all possibility of it leaking an corroding the > motherboard in the future unless someone goes out of their way to add a > battery back in, but the

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2018-03-09 Thread Kevin Becker
This brings up an interesting point. Having just replaced my NiCad I think I'm going to use my label maker to leave a note about when it was replaced under the battery door. On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 4:20 PM, Brian White wrote: > I meant to say, the only harm it does is, it harms the next owner,

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2018-03-09 Thread Brian White
I meant to say, the only harm it does is, it harms the next owner, in that they may or may not like the idea that their M100 has been modified in this way.​ It's arguable both ways though. You could say that by removing the battery, you are removing all possibility of it leaking an corroding the m

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2018-03-09 Thread Kurt McCullum
: Re: [M100] batteries... Just curious: why? A good quality replacement would probably last at least another ten years. m - Original Message - From: Kurt McCullum <mailto:kurt.mccul...@att.net> To: m...@bitchin100.com <mailto:m...@bitchin100.com> Sent: Frid

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2018-03-09 Thread Mike Stein
Just curious: why? A good quality replacement would probably last at least another ten years. m - Original Message - From: Kurt McCullum To: m...@bitchin100.com Sent: Friday, March 09, 2018 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [M100] batteries... I run my 200 without a backup battery

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2018-03-09 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 12:13 PM Brian White wrote: > Only to the next owner. > > Didn’t quite get that. But if it seems I’m advocating for removing the nicd, definitely not. — John.

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2018-03-09 Thread Brian White
Only to the next owner. On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 1:28 PM, Earl Evans wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 9:18 AM, John R. Hogerhuis > wrote: > >> >> But maybe with REX, doing without the nicd Is ok since you can always >> quickly restore a backup. >> >> — John. >> > > ​I do have a REX, and would

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2018-03-09 Thread Earl Evans
On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 9:18 AM, John R. Hogerhuis wrote: > > But maybe with REX, doing without the nicd Is ok since you can always > quickly restore a backup. > > — John. > ​I do have a REX, and would be happier just removing the NiCad. Would there be any harm in doing this, other than potential

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2018-03-09 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
Believe it or not I think the backup battery is a core feature of the model t that sets it apart from others. When you have a ram file system it’s critical to have that kept alive so you don’t lose your work. I guess if you’re religious about managing the batteries it doesn’t matter. I’m not rel

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2018-03-09 Thread Kurt McCullum
-boun...@lists.bitchin100.com] On Behalf Of Chris Kmiec Sent: Friday, March 09, 2018 2:34 AM To: m...@bitchin100.com Subject: Re: [M100] batteries... Sorry, I meant why not just remove it. That's what I did with all my Tandys. On Mar 8, 2018 9:10 PM, "John R. Hogerhuis" mailto:j

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2018-03-09 Thread Chris Kmiec
Sorry, I meant why not just remove it. That's what I did with all my Tandys. On Mar 8, 2018 9:10 PM, "John R. Hogerhuis" wrote: > The reason for replacing the internal nicd is that they’re 20+ years old. > > They are in the process of failing and leaking corrosive material on the > printed circu

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2018-03-08 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
The reason for replacing the internal nicd is that they’re 20+ years old. They are in the process of failing and leaking corrosive material on the printed circuit board damaging it. — John.

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2018-03-08 Thread Chris Kmiec
Besides not having a backup if your main batteries suddenly go bad, is there any other reason to replace the battery? I have REX, and I have not replaced my backup battery. Just wanted to make sure I'm actually doing any harm? On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:00 PM, Gregory McGill wrote: > I found the

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2018-03-07 Thread Gregory McGill
I found them at jameco (batteries) Greg On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 6:14 AM, Kevin Becker wrote: > I recently replaced mine with a battery from eBay. I checked my history > and the seller no longer has them but if you search for something like > "60mAh 3.6v ni-cd button cell tab" you should find a

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2018-03-07 Thread Kevin Becker
I recently replaced mine with a battery from eBay. I checked my history and the seller no longer has them but if you search for something like "60mAh 3.6v ni-cd button cell tab" you should find a few suitable replacements. I know lots of people use super capacitors instead but I don't have any ex