Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Timothy J. Meloy
I have not experienced some of the voice over bugs that have been widely talked about. The pros outweigh the cons for upgrading. TJ On Sep 27, 2014, at 1:30 AM, Diane Bomar bomon...@earthlink.net wrote: Unless there is something in IOS 8, that you absolutely must have, I would encourage

Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread eleanor martha burke
in what way? Eleanor Martha Burke On 27 Sep 2014, at 07:46, Timothy J. Meloy tme...@fuse.net wrote: I have not experienced some of the voice over bugs that have been widely talked about. The pros outweigh the cons for upgrading. TJ On Sep 27, 2014, at 1:30 AM, Diane Bomar

Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation

2014-09-27 Thread john gallagher
hi there late on this one but can't you go and connect it to itunes and do it that way. - Original Message - From: Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Date: Friday, 26 September 2014 10.29 pm Subject: Re: iPod Touch 5th

Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation

2014-09-27 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
Yes that is correct thank you. I got Mo to do that for me as he is brilliant with computers and I haven't a clue about iTunes really. Eleanor - Original Message - From: john gallagher j...@pianotuner.plus.com To: mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 9:47 AM

RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Shaun Oliver
I may be seen as confrontational with this response, but, I'mnot concerned with that. What concerns me, however, is the arrogants displayed by people who believe they know better than they who've coded the operating system we're discussing. Regardless of accessibility bugs, which aren't

Re: Abbyy fine reader pro help please

2014-09-27 Thread Ian Harrison
Hi Brian, thanks very much. A walk through using frp with a scanner would also be brilliant! Ian On 26 Sep 2014, at 18:05, Leo Bissonnette leo.bissonne...@videotron.ca wrote: Hwllo Bryan, I found this info very helpful, as I consider moving to FRP. Would be interested in learning more

Another macbook air set up question

2014-09-27 Thread Ian Harrison
Hi listers. I am suffering from technoblock. I am setting up my macbook and want to put my mail accounts on it. I am already set up on my iphone and linked to the cloud. Is there a quick way to install my mailboxes? Thanks in advance. Ian --- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net

Re: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Graham Smith
I could not agree more. People that just sit back are not helping us at all. Perhaps if we all updated and showed our interest in getting things fixed it would all happen a lot quicker and the likes of Appple may concentrate a little more on the voice over side of some great software.

Re: Another macbook air set up question

2014-09-27 Thread eleanor martha burke
not particularly you still have to go through the process but that in itself does not take very long Eleanor Martha Burke On 27 Sep 2014, at 13:11, Ian Harrison harrisonc...@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk wrote: Hi listers. I am suffering from technoblock. I am setting up my macbook

Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Bryan Jones
ALthough I generally prefer to live on the bleeding edge when it comes to OS upgrades, I depend on a number of apps for work school and thus am sometimes willing to wait for clearance from Devs or other trustworthy and level-headed Users of critical apps before upgrading. For example, the

Re: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Matthew Chao
Hello. I'd like to thank those of you on the list who gave advice regarding upgrading. While I agree the more the better regarding reporting bugs, I'm not a fan of aggravation trying to downgrade because you can't stand the new bugs you got with the upgrade. Speaking of bugs, did iOS8.0.2

Re: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Glenn
Speaking of security, I seem to recall, in IOS 7, in the major release from 6x to 7, that there was a security breakage. Here is an example where it is more secure to stay with the older version. These developers are in too much of a rush to upgrade their OS. I think Apple wanted to get this out

Re: Another macbook air set up question

2014-09-27 Thread Devin Prater
Just go to system preferences, then to mail, contacts and calendars, or internet account, or you can launch the mail app, and set up your accounts there. Sent from my iPad On Sep 27, 2014, at 8:53 AM, eleanor martha burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: not particularly you still

Re: iPod Touch 5th Generation

2014-09-27 Thread Devin Prater
On the subject of the iPod touch, I hope they release another one soon. I don't wanna have to purchase an iPad in order to get iOS 10 or something. Sent from my iPad On Sep 27, 2014, at 4:09 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com wrote: Yes that is correct thank you. I

RE: IOS8 and handwriting

2014-09-27 Thread Josh
I do not know if anyone else has chimed in to answer you or not, but the answer is yes. It is broken in 8.0. I hate that too since I use that feature quite a bit on the campus. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf

Re: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
Well my niece who is sighted said the upgrade really messed up her iPad. - Original Message - From: Glenn glenner...@cableone.net To: OS X iOS Accessibility mac-access@mac-access.net Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

Upgrading to iOS 8: Having A Problem Upgrading

2014-09-27 Thread Leo Bissonnette
Hello, Today we have decided to update our various iPhones and iPads. We started with my son-in-law’s iPhone and have found that his phone isn’t responding. We have left it for over an hour and it’s at a blank screen. He started the process connected to power, starting the upgrade directly

Re: Upgrading to iOS 8: Having A Problem Upgrading

2014-09-27 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Try that maybe the phone is in recovery mode and so requires a restore from iTunes. Sent from my laptop On 27/09/2014 19:42, Leo Bissonnette wrote: Hello, Today we have decided to update our various iPhones and iPads. We started with my son-in-law’s iPhone and have found that his phone

Re: Upgrading to iOS 8: Having A Problem Upgrading

2014-09-27 Thread Leo Bissonnette
Hi, Will try that. Leo On Sep 27, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Try that maybe the phone is in recovery mode and so requires a restore from iTunes. Sent from my laptop On 27/09/2014 19:42, Leo Bissonnette wrote: Hello, Today we have

Re: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Mark
I am not going to upgrade to I OS 8 until there is some reliance upon usability. I don't believe there's any folly, in wanting to actually use the iPhone you have become reliant upon. The folly, is that somehow upgrading to an in adequate upgrade, is better so all others will be better off

Re: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Matthew Chao
How do I find the change log? Matthew Chao At 01:39 PM 9/27/2014, you wrote: , I beleive the keyboard problem has been fixed according to the change log I saw. Not sure about the tone problem as I only had it happened to me once and it was not durring anything importent. Just my

Re: Upgrading to iOS 8: Having A Problem Upgrading

2014-09-27 Thread Glenn
Leo, Sometimes it gets stuck, I would not stop the process. Is it on the USB cable for power? Also, are you installing from a phone download, or from iTunes? I recommend the latter. I also find it helpful to close all running apps in the app switcher before doing an upgrade, as that will free up

Re: Upgrading to iOS 8: Having A Problem Upgrading

2014-09-27 Thread Leo Bissonnette
Hi Glenn, Thanks for your suggestions. We had closed all apps before starting. We had started the upgrade directly from the phone with it on power. So, maybe the iTunes method might have been the better way to go…. Will keep you posted on progress…. Leo On Sep 27, 2014, at 3:46 PM, Glenn

Re: Another macbook air set up question

2014-09-27 Thread Sarah k Alawami
No, you need to set up each account individually which works. It will take some time to dl all of tha tdata but with in 10 minutes you can have yoru mail set up. Tke care. On Sep 27, 2014, at 5:11 AM, Ian Harrison harrisonc...@harrisonclan.karoo.co.uk wrote: Hi listers. I

Re: IOS8 and handwriting

2014-09-27 Thread Daniela Rubio
Hello! If you turn off predictive text it will work again. Best Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 27/09/2014, a las 18:18, Josh lawdog...@comcast.net escribió: I do not know if anyone else has chimed in to answer you or not, but the answer is yes. It is broken in 8.0. I hate that too

Re: IOS8 and handwriting

2014-09-27 Thread Diane Bomar
This is especially interesting, as I was just on the phone for THREE hours with Apple Accessibility, and the person I spoke to said that he had no problems with handwriting when running VO and IOS 8.0.2. The reason for the 3 hour call will be described in another post. Thanks Josh, and I hope

Re: IOS8 and handwriting

2014-09-27 Thread Diane Bomar
Thanks, I will try that, as soon as my iPhone talks to me again . Sent from my iPad On Sep 27, 2014, at 3:50 PM, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! If you turn off predictive text, it will work again. Hope it helps! Best Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 27/09/2014, a

RE: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Shaun Oliver
Well, if the iDevice you're updating goes west, or developes a few quriks, reset it and reflash it. And if worst comes to worst, wack it in DFU mode and restore it. It'll force a redownload of the operating system and firmware. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net

RE: Upgrading to iOS 8: Having A Problem Upgrading

2014-09-27 Thread Shaun Oliver
This might be a case for putting the phone in DFU mode. To do this, hold down the home and power buttons symoltaniusly for around 20 seconds and let up off of the power button first and the home button around 5 seconds after. Then, use iTunes either on your mac or PC to reflash your phone.

Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Diane Bomar
If one considers the possibility of being on the line with Apple Accessibility for 3 hours a pro, then go for it. I, personally, spent last Saturday, and this Saturday, dealing with resetting and restoring my iPhone multiple times, due to glitches that Accessibility tech support did not know

Re: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Diane Bomar
You make a good poing. Misery loves company, and maybe if enough people call the accessibility line, when VO stops talking, Apple will fix the bugs that cause those problems. But, one should make an informed choice by knowing the risks. Diane Sent from my iPad On Sep 27, 2014, at 7:48 AM,

Re: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Mark
I don't want to spend too much time going tit for tat on this subject. Many blind people I know in fact embrace change. The assumption that the problem is not embracing change is perhaps misguided. My experience, has been from people I know, and customers of the blind agency where I work, that

Re Bulk in Subject Title

2014-09-27 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
Your e-mails have bulk in the subject line, not sure why this is, maybe mine does to you too or maybe the Mods can tell us what is going on. I know on another list I am on, they were encouraging us to have Gmail accounts to get rid of this issue of bulk. - Original Message - From:

RE: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Shaun Oliver
I'm not suggesting for a minute you go in guns blazing. Read the documentation, read the various bug reports and anything else you can lay your hands on, but, don't dismiss upgrading out of hand, just because. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net

RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Shaun Oliver
One of those bugs with siri is easily overcome by single tapping the listen button just above the home key. Sometimes, siri and voiceover get in the way of each other. I admit, it's annoying, but, again, nothing you can't get out of. I'm unaware of the bug that requires you to reset your phone.l

RE: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Shaun Oliver
I'll conseed the point that IOS8 was released a little too early, as was, in my opinion IOS7. It too had a good number of bugs when it first came out if I remember correctly. Say what you like about the late steve jobs, but, he made sure that each release of IOS had as few debilitating bugs as

Re: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Glenn
It's not like anyone is not going to upgrade. Pretty much everyone will in time. Historically, there are bugs in software, and if less people were to upgrade right away, the software people would spend more time making sure that there are no bugs. We do not need to be unwilling beta testers.

RE: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not?

2014-09-27 Thread Shaun Oliver
Problem with that is exactly that. Anyone can sign up to be a beta tester. They want the latest and greatest toys and don't want to report the bugs so we can have a smooth transition. I'd sign up to be a beta tester, but, I don't want to spend my days compiling bug reports, so I wait for the

RE: IOS8 and handwriting

2014-09-27 Thread Josh
Hello Daniela, I tried this using IOS 8.0 and it was still a no go after turning off predictive text. Is this only after upgrading to 8.0.2? Thank you for your help with this matter. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On

RE: IOS8 and handwriting

2014-09-27 Thread Josh
I will indeed let them know. -Original Message- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Diane Bomar Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 6:17 PM To: OS X iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: IOS8 and handwriting This is especially

Re: Abbyy fine reader pro help please

2014-09-27 Thread Bryan Jones
Here is the workflow I generally follow when using ABBYY FineReader Pro on my Mac in combination with a WiFi connected scanner to scan, import, OCR and export single- or multipage documents. These instructions were written based on FineReader Pro version 12.0.6, MacOS 10.9.5, a 2013 Macbook

Re: Bluetooth keyboard on IOS 8 I Am Not Happy!

2014-09-27 Thread Martin G. McCormick
As one who works, at least for a few more months, in networking and computing, I think we should upgrade our operating system whenever possible to the current state of the art for one's own security if nothing else. The hackers and crackers out there have usually figured out how to break

Re: Bluetooth keyboard on IOS 8 I Am Not Happy!

2014-09-27 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Tur on and off quick nav to get this to work. This sithe work around. Take care. On Sep 27, 2014, at 9:27 PM, Martin G. McCormick mar...@server1.shellworld.net wrote: As one who works, at least for a few more months, in networking and computing, I think we should upgrade our operating