Re: CamelBones: Will hack for food!

2007-05-09 Thread Robert Hicks
Sherm Pendley wrote: On May 7, 2007, at 11:44 AM, Chris Nandor wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sherm Pendley) wrote: I need donations to CamelBones. Or web hosting customers. Or consulting clients. Or a plain old-fashioned job. Or something - and I need it soon.

Re: CamelBones: Will hack for food!

2007-05-09 Thread Jeremiah Foster
Sun, May 06, 2007 at 05:07:46PM -0400: Sherm Pendley mangled some bits into this alignment: On May 6, 2007, at 3:25 PM, Alex Robinson wrote: I wish even more that Apple had picked you up and made CamelBones a first class citizen. Good news: That may still happen. Good news indeed.

Re: CamelBones: Will hack for food!

2007-05-09 Thread Jeremiah Foster
Tue, May 08, 2007 at 05:25:35PM -0400: Sherm Pendley mangled some bits into this alignment: On May 7, 2007, at 6:23 AM, David Cantrell wrote: On Sun, May 06, 2007 at 08:25:49PM +0100, Alex Robinson wrote: Why did the OS X loving bit of the perl

Re: Speaking of support for Camel Bones

2007-05-09 Thread Robert Hicks
Sherm Pendley wrote: snip That's my biggest concern. CB is mostly of use to the subset of the community who are using Macs, and need to write GUI apps. My concern is whether that's a big enough subset to warrant a grant. Yes, but think of the future. If this is funded and gets to be a part

Re: CamelBones: Will hack for food!

2007-05-09 Thread Jeremiah Foster
Hi all, I have blogged a bit about Camel Bones here on O'Reilly. Please comment if you would so that the python person who commented is not the sole comment. Nothing personal against python but it sucks. http://www.oreillynet.com/mac/blog/2007/05/developing_with_camel_bones_pe_1.html

Re: CamelBones: Will hack for food!

2007-05-09 Thread Vic Norton
On 5/8/07, at 5:25 PM -0400, Sherm Pendley wrote: It's not just in Mac circles either - there's a very widespread misconception that Perl is useful for system admins, web developers, and little else. One thing I find personally frustrating is the corollary, that Perl *programmers* must

Re: CamelBones: Will hack for food!

2007-05-09 Thread Bruce Van Allen
On 5/9/07 Jeremiah Foster wrote: I have blogged a bit about Camel Bones here on O'Reilly. Please comment if you would so that the python person who commented is not the sole comment. Nothing personal against python but it sucks. But let's not turn this into a battle in the best language wars.

Re: CamelBones: Will hack for food!

2007-05-09 Thread Jeremiah Foster
Wed, May 09, 2007 at 08:55:54AM -0700: Bruce Van Allen mangled some bits into this alignment: On 5/9/07 Jeremiah Foster wrote: I have blogged a bit about Camel Bones here on O'Reilly. Please comment if you would so that the python person who commented is not the sole comment. Nothing

Re: CamelBones: Will hack for food!

2007-05-09 Thread Bruce Van Allen
On 5/9/07 Jeremiah Foster wrote: Wed, May 09, 2007 at 08:55:54AM -0700: Bruce Van Allen mangled some bits into this alignment: On 5/9/07 Jeremiah Foster wrote: I have blogged a bit about Camel Bones here on O'Reilly. Please comment if you would so that the python person who commented is not

Re: Speaking of support for Camel Bones

2007-05-09 Thread Bruce Van Allen
On 5/8/07 Tim Bunce wrote: On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 05:38:42PM -0400, Sherm Pendley wrote: On May 8, 2007, at 5:23 PM, Bruce Van Allen wrote: I think we can confidently answer the Benefits to the Perl Community issue. That's my biggest concern. CB is mostly of use to the subset of the

Re: CamelBones: Will hack for food!

2007-05-09 Thread Sherm Pendley
On May 9, 2007, at 11:55 AM, Bruce Van Allen wrote: On 5/9/07 Jeremiah Foster wrote: I have blogged a bit about Camel Bones here on O'Reilly. Please comment if you would so that the python person who commented is not the sole comment. Nothing personal against python but it sucks. But let's

Re: CamelBones: Will hack for food!

2007-05-09 Thread Sherm Pendley
On May 9, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Vic Norton wrote: On 5/8/07, at 5:25 PM -0400, Sherm Pendley wrote: It's not just in Mac circles either - there's a very widespread misconception that Perl is useful for system admins, web developers, and little else. One thing I find personally frustrating is the

Fwd: CamelBones: Will hack for food!

2007-05-09 Thread Tom Yarrish
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just figured out that this only went to Jeremiah. Begin forwarded message: From: Tom Yarrish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: May 9, 2007 9:11:08 AM CDT To: Jeremiah Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CamelBones: Will hack for food! -BEGIN PGP

Re: CamelBones: Will hack for food!

2007-05-09 Thread Daniel T. Staal
On Wed, May 9, 2007 3:50 pm, Sherm Pendley said: So, the next version - 1.2 release, preceded by 1.1.x betas - will also be licensed under the same terms: GPL or Artistic, your choice. I wouldn't have had a problem with a commercial program using CB anyway, even before the license change -

Re: CamelBones: Will hack for food!

2007-05-09 Thread Bruce Van Allen
On 5/9/07 Peter N Lewis wrote: Perhaps folks have some ideas for apps that could be written in CamelBones? Something that would presumably use some of the vast CPAN facilities to make something cool with minimal programming effort. Mine would not be as flashy as games, but I'm working toward

Re: CamelBones: Will hack for food!

2007-05-09 Thread Chris Devers
On May 9, 2007, at 4:32 PM, Daniel T. Staal wrote: Macs desperately _need_ a an app to manage third-party software updates. Something that you could run periodically to keep software up to date, avoiding having every seprate program connect to the internet on startup and check for itself.