Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-12 Thread Lawrence Sica
On Mar 8, 2012, at 6:06 AM, Jared Earle wrote: > No Siri because they do a Wifi-only iPad. Think about it. > What would be nice, though very hard to do really, would be to have it know if you are connected and have Siri enabled, with a non-Siri voice thing otherwise. That would lead to inco

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-11 Thread steve
on 2012-10-03 18:31 LuKreme wrote On Mar 10, 2012, at 17:32, st...@paper-ape.com wrote: i don't think it's fair to assume everyone reads a phone from 11", and an iPad much father; i'm sure it varies a lot; i can't recall ever seeing anyone doing much reading at 11" on an iPhone; i can't comfor

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-10 Thread LuKreme
On Mar 10, 2012, at 17:32, st...@paper-ape.com wrote: > i don't think it's fair to assume everyone reads a phone from 11", and an > iPad much father; i'm sure it varies a lot; i can't recall ever seeing anyone > doing much reading at 11" on an iPhone; i can't comfortably read either an > iPhone

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-10 Thread LuKreme
On Mar 10, 2012, at 17:32, st...@paper-ape.com wrote: > so in answer to my question about what you (or Scott) had meant by > "resolution", it sounds like you meant neither absolute pixel density nor > total number of pixels No,I was referring too the physical resolution, as in the pixels across

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-10 Thread steve
on 2012-10-03 8:16 LuKreme wrote On 10 Mar 2012, at 00:21 , st...@paper-ape.com wrote: as i have it, the iPhone 4& 4s have higher pixel density than el nuevo iPad, but not much else in consumer space Because not much else would ever be held as close as an iphon

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-09 Thread steve
on 2012-09-03 19:00 LuKreme wrote On 09 Mar 2012, at 14:56 , Scott Lewis wrote: 2) A "higher-density display" (that's putting it mildly - a 2048x1536 better than 1080p display that's higher resolution than any portable screen... ever) Well, there was one laptop that had a screen that res, but

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-09 Thread LuKreme
On 09 Mar 2012, at 14:56 , Scott Lewis wrote: > 2) A "higher-density display" (that's putting it mildly - a 2048x1536 better > than 1080p display that's higher resolution than any portable screen... ever) Well, there was one laptop that had a screen that res, but only one. I think it was a Sony?

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-09 Thread Scott Lewis
On Mar 07, 2012, at 03:16 PM, Nathan Sims wrote:Maybe it's just me, but I think Apple forgot to add anything new to the iPad 3, its just "more of the same": - Upgraded processor - Higher-density display - Slightly upgraded camera - 4G cell connectivity I would call this iPad 2.5, incremental at

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-08 Thread Ashley Aitken
It looks like the voice dictation does require an Internet connection. Given the amount of RAM and processing that full continuous speaker-independent speech voice recognition requires I am not surprised. http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/07/apple-new-ipad-hands-on/ > Update: ... the Voice Dict

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-08 Thread LuKreme
On 08 Mar 2012, at 19:59 , Ashley Aitken wrote: > On 08/03/2012, at 8:06 PM, Jared Earle wrote: >> No Siri because they do a Wifi-only iPad. Think about it. > > But wouldn't the voice recognition / dictation use the same centralised > infrastructure? Nope. The dictation doesn't appear to require

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-08 Thread Ashley Aitken
On 08/03/2012, at 8:06 PM, Jared Earle wrote: > No Siri because they do a Wifi-only iPad. Think about it. But wouldn't the voice recognition / dictation use the same centralised infrastructure? I'm guessing their using this as a first step towards Siri ... testing ... scaling ... etc. Cheers

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-08 Thread Jared Earle
No Siri because they do a Wifi-only iPad. Think about it. No Thunderbolt because … seriously, the 40-pin connector is called a 40-pin connector because it has 40 pins, some of which are used for stuff you couldn't do with Thunderbolt. So, yeah, it doesn't come with a Moon Pony. On Thu, Mar 8, 20

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-07 Thread LuKreme
On 08 Mar 2012, at 00:43 , Vince LaMonica wrote: > Umm...I do it all the time on my first generation iPad. $29 camera kit from > Apple [and a CF card adaptor for reading CF cards from my Canon]. This allows > me to read SD, CF and USB sticks with movies/photos on them and import them > into Ph

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-07 Thread Vince LaMonica
On Mar 8, 2012, at 2:39 AM, LuKreme wrote: > > On 07 Mar 2012, at 16:07 , William Ehrich wrote: > >> On 2012-3-7 4:37 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: >>> All the great stuff on your iPad — your music, photos, and videos — >>> can stream wirelessly >>> to your HDTV and speakers via Apple TV or to Air

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-07 Thread LuKreme
On 07 Mar 2012, at 16:07 , William Ehrich wrote: > On 2012-3-7 4:37 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: >>All the great stuff on your iPad — your music, photos, and videos — >> can stream wirelessly >>to your HDTV and speakers via Apple TV or to AirPlay-enabled >> speakers over a Wi-Fi network. > >

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-07 Thread LuKreme
On 07 Mar 2012, at 13:16 , Nathan Sims wrote: > Maybe it's just me, but I think Apple forgot to add anything new to the iPad > 3, its just "more of the same": > - Upgraded processor > - Higher-density display That is HUGE. > - Slightly upgraded camera Slightly? Are you MAD? > I would call

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-07 Thread Ashley Aitken
On 08/03/2012, at 10:39 AM, Michael Caplinger wrote: > Apple's Remote App for iOS allows full control of an Apple TV via WiFi, and > has since the ATV v1. There's no Siri, but it does everything else you > listed. Thanks Mike, I wasn't aware of that. I guess Nathan's focus was more on the vo

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-07 Thread Michael Caplinger
On Mar 7, 2012, at 9:31 PM, Ashley Aitken wrote: > > I think Nathan may be referring to a way to control the Apple TV with your > voice from the iPad (or other iOS device), or perhaps use the iPad as a > traditional remote or even a trackpad for the Apple TV (via WiFi). > > These I believe wi

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-07 Thread Ashley Aitken
I think Nathan may be referring to a way to control the Apple TV with your voice from the iPad (or other iOS device), or perhaps use the iPad as a traditional remote or even a trackpad for the Apple TV (via WiFi). These I believe will be introduced with a new Apple TV that runs full iOS (with

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-07 Thread steve
on 3/7/12 5:27 PMobjectwerks inc wrote You need to get the Camera manufacturers to support this first, over wifi or bluetooth. Then someone will make "an app for that" yes, exactly, to your last sentence, but … wifi approaches generally have too much lag for real-time image display, and few

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-07 Thread John Musbach
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: > > On 2012-03-07 4:06 PM  John Musbach wrote: >> >> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Neil >> Laubenthal  wrote: >> >>> What would you like? I grant you that Apple TV interface would be nice . >>> . >> >> What's a "Apple TV interface"? > > > It's

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-07 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2012-03-07 5:07 PM William Ehrich wrote: On 2012-3-7 4:37 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: All the great stuff on your iPad — your music, photos, and videos — can stream wirelessly to your HDTV and speakers via Apple TV or to AirPlay-enabled speakers over a Wi-Fi network. That quote is abo

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-07 Thread objectwerks inc
On Mar 7, 2012, at 5:22 PM, Neil Laubenthal wrote: > On Mar 7, 2012, at 7:20 PM,3/7, st...@paper-ape.com wrote: >> on 3/7/12 4:30 PMNeil Laubenthal wrote >>> Some cameras at least will tether to an iPad 1 with the camera connection >>> kit using the USB connector included in it. >> >> i suspect

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-07 Thread Neil Laubenthal
On Mar 7, 2012, at 7:20 PM,3/7, st...@paper-ape.com wrote: > on 3/7/12 4:30 PMNeil Laubenthal wrote >> Some cameras at least will tether to an iPad 1 with the camera connection >> kit using the USB connector included in it. > > i suspect we mean different things by "tethering"; i mean viewing ima

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-07 Thread steve
on 3/7/12 4:30 PMNeil Laubenthal wrote Some cameras at least will tether to an iPad 1 with the camera connection kit using the USB connector included in it. i suspect we mean different things by "tethering"; i mean viewing images before & after exposure, ability to zoom & view image parameter

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-07 Thread Neil Laubenthal
On Mar 7, 2012, at 5:13 PM,3/7, st...@paper-ape.com wrote: > personally, i would like the iPad to be a better photographer's companion; to > this end, on the hardware side at least, more storage would probably be > great; the ability to tether to a "real" camera would be fantastic; but that > d

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-07 Thread objectwerks inc
On Mar 7, 2012, at 3:37 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: > > On 2012-03-07 4:06 PM John Musbach wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Neil >> Laubenthal wrote: >>> What would you like? I grant you that Apple TV interface would be nice . . >> What's a "Apple TV interface"? > > It's called "Airply"

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-07 Thread Andy Lee
On Mar 7, 2012, at 4:28 PM, Nathan Sims wrote: > "New" if you buy into the marketing hype maybe, but totally uninnovative. > There's nothing innovative in the iPad 3 over the iPad 2, just more of the > same. You say "just" like the hardware updates are trivial. I think it's extremely impressive

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-07 Thread Vince LaMonica
On Mar 7, 2012, at 6:07 PM, William Ehrich wrote: > Can it input files from a USB memory or a disk player? I do that with my iPad 1 just fine. You need to buy the SD/USB kit that Apple sells for $29. /vjl/___ MacOSX-talk mailing list MacOSX-talk@omnig

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-07 Thread William Ehrich
On 2012-3-7 4:37 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: All the great stuff on your iPad — your music, photos, and videos — can stream wirelessly to your HDTV and speakers via Apple TV or to AirPlay-enabled speakers over a Wi-Fi network. Can it input files from a USB memory or a disk player?

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-07 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
On Mar 8, 2012, at 5:16 AM, Nathan Sims wrote: > I mean, give me something NEW... Get yourself an Android tablet. Jean-Christophe Helary fun: http://mac4translators.blogspot.com work: http://www.doublet.jp (ja/en > fr) tweets: http://twitter.com/brandelu

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-07 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2012-03-07 4:06 PM John Musbach wrote: On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Neil Laubenthal wrote: What would you like? I grant you that Apple TV interface would be nice . . What's a "Apple TV interface"? It's called "Airply". All the great stuff on your iPad — your music, photos, and v

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-07 Thread steve
on 3/7/12 1:16 PMNathan Sims wrote Maybe it's just me, but I think Apple forgot to add anything new to the iPad 3, its just "more of the same" it's not more of the same, it's just not the mindblowing 3D-immersive, waterproof, 20-finger-multitouch, subwoofing, never-needs-charging, two-mile-w

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-07 Thread John Musbach
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Neil Laubenthal wrote: > On Mar 7, 2012, at 3:16 PM,3/7, Nathan Sims wrote: >> Maybe it's just me, but I think Apple forgot to add anything new to the iPad >> 3, its just "more of the same": >> - Upgraded processor >> - Higher-density display >> - Slightly upgraded

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-07 Thread Neil Laubenthal
On Mar 7, 2012, at 3:16 PM,3/7, Nathan Sims wrote: > Maybe it's just me, but I think Apple forgot to add anything new to the iPad > 3, its just "more of the same": > - Upgraded processor > - Higher-density display > - Slightly upgraded camera > - 4G cell connectivity > > I would call this iPad

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-07 Thread objectwerks inc
On Mar 7, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Nathan Sims wrote: > > On Mar 7, 2012, at 1:07 PM, objectwerks inc wrote: > >> Interesting how you call it "more of the same" and then list all sorts of >> new things that were not in the older one. A new much faster processor. >> A new much higher density disp

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-07 Thread Nathan Sims
On Mar 7, 2012, at 1:07 PM, objectwerks inc wrote: > Interesting how you call it "more of the same" and then list all sorts of new > things that were not in the older one. A new much faster processor. A new > much higher density display. A new camera (which is more than a slight > upgrade

Re: iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-07 Thread objectwerks inc
Interesting how you call it "more of the same" and then list all sorts of new things that were not in the older one. A new much faster processor. A new much higher density display. A new camera (which is more than a slight upgrade). And LTE connectivity. All that is "new." Apple is not a

iPad 3: More of the same?

2012-03-07 Thread Nathan Sims
Maybe it's just me, but I think Apple forgot to add anything new to the iPad 3, its just "more of the same": - Upgraded processor - Higher-density display - Slightly upgraded camera - 4G cell connectivity I would call this iPad 2.5, incremental at best. So where's the innovation? No Apple TV i