RE: new mac books

2019-06-13 Thread Simon Fogarty
something to play with at work tomorrow. -Original Message- From: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2019 12:14 AM To: Macvisionaries Subject: Re: new mac books You can always use an external keyboard while it's at home or at your workplace on a desk (either

Re: new mac books

2019-06-12 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
- From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries Sent: Tuesday, 11 June 2019 4:04 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: new mac books So, good luck with it, Simon! May you be pleasantly surprised. Best, Janina Simon Fogarty writes: &

RE: new mac books

2019-06-11 Thread Simon Fogarty
Thanks Janina, I'll let you know how it goes. Simon F -Original Message- From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries Sent: Tuesday, 11 June 2019 4:04 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: new mac books So, good luck with it, Simon! May you be pleasantly surprised. Best

Re: new mac books

2019-06-10 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
I get stuck I'll just make changes with a hot stick or something. > > -Original Message- > From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > Sent: Monday, 10 June 2019 1:27 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: new mac books > > Hi, Simon: > > Be

RE: new mac books

2019-06-10 Thread Simon Fogarty
: Monday, 10 June 2019 1:27 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: new mac books Hi, Simon: Being limited to 8Gb RAM might be a problem if you're running Win10, and especially if running in a vm. But, I should think a keyboard you don't like would be even worse. Can you hold out

Re: new mac books

2019-06-09 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
ies > Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2019 12:20 AM > To: 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries > Subject: Re: new mac books > > Thanks very much for this info, Shawn. > > > These days I'm preferring the smallest and lightest physical unit I can get > packed to the teeth with RAM

RE: new mac books

2019-06-06 Thread Simon Fogarty
erfly keyboard as I'm guessing it's not going anywhere quickly. -Original Message- From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2019 12:20 AM To: 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: new mac books Thanks very much for this info, Shawn. These days I'm prefe

Re: new mac books

2019-06-05 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Thanks very much for this info, Shawn. These days I'm preferring the smallest and lightest physical unit I can get packed to the teeth with RAM, CPU, and SSD. So, a 2017 Air might just be the ticket. Janina 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries writes: > I should've said the 2017 MacBook Air did

Re: new mac books

2019-06-05 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
I'm unaware of grub being used as the primary boot loader. I know it can be a secondary loader, as can the systemd loader. 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries writes: > Can Grub be installed on a recent Mac? If so, it might be your solution. > > I know their UEFI implementation is non-standard, but

Re: new mac books

2019-06-04 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, The MacOS version is immaterial to the startup chime. The chime is part of the basic firmware and hardware check, not an OS feature. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Jamf Certified Associate Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 3, 2019, at 22:04,

Re: new mac books

2019-06-04 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! It should be configurable as i don’t like it. THere’s a small sound when you turn your mac on without the bootchime. Its just a half of a second but you really have to have silence around you to hear that. At least that’s what i hear from my mac when i turn it on with no chime. But i have the

Re: new mac books

2019-06-03 Thread 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries
I should've said the 2017 MacBook Air did the startup chime in Mojave which is what I have. > On Jun 3, 2019, at 11:03 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi Janina. In Mojave, the 2017 models did make the startup chime. I'm > currently beta testing Catalina which is 10.15

Re: new mac books

2019-06-03 Thread 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries
Hi Janina. In Mojave, the 2017 models did make the startup chime. I'm currently beta testing Catalina which is 10.15 so I can't say if it's still there or not. > On Jun 3, 2019, at 12:45 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > I'm also interested in this question and wondering

Re: new mac books

2019-06-03 Thread lenron brown
ervices were functioning correctly. > Oh and that wally was charging but whether that still fits I can't be > sure. > > -Original Message- > From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > Sent: Tuesday, 4 June 2019 6:37 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sub

RE: new mac books

2019-06-03 Thread Simon Fogarty
' via MacVisionaries Sent: Tuesday, 4 June 2019 6:37 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: new mac books Yes, I'm not surprised. I'm just not recalling exactly when it was removed from what models, and whether or not it's now too late to pick up any that still have it unused

RE: new mac books

2019-06-03 Thread Simon Fogarty
bject: Re: new mac books I'm also interested in this question and wondering whether the 2017 models still have the boot chime? Janina Simon Fogarty writes: > Hi Listers, > > It's looking like I'm going to have to replace my mid 2013 11" > MacBookAir, > > Currently t

RE: new mac books

2019-06-03 Thread Simon Fogarty
HI tim, >From us we’re looking at approx. 2500 Km to the west in probably Sydney as the >closest. From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries Sent: Tuesday, 4 June 2019 2:25 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: new mac books Hi, Hmmm, I'm not sure that access to an Apple

Re: new mac books

2019-06-03 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
Can Grub be installed on a recent Mac? If so, it might be your solution. I know their UEFI implementation is non-standard, but it's still a worthwhile question. On 6/3/19, 14:37, "'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries" wrote: I can't imagine what that could be. I note that grub

Re: new mac books

2019-06-03 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
I can't imagine what that could be. I note that grub offers the option of playing sound. If one wants sound in a grub mediated boot, one is able to add a directive to provide that. 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries writes: > Hi, > > I'm not sure why they removed it either. I've made my noise to

Re: new mac books

2019-06-03 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Yes, I'm not surprised. I'm just not recalling exactly when it was removed from what models, and whether or not it's now too late to pick up any that still have it unused. As to why, I suspect it's as simple as most sighted computer users, perhaps I should say many sighted users have a strong

Re: new mac books

2019-06-03 Thread Julie Rattray
Yes I am sure there will be a reason but it is one of those odd annoyances > On 3 Jun 2019, at 19:20, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm not sure why they removed it either. I've made my noise to some Apple > System

Re: new mac books

2019-06-03 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, I'm not sure why they removed it either. I've made my noise to some Apple System Engineers, but really haven't got any traction. There's probably some firmware level security reason, but I'm not smart enough to know it. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds

Re: new mac books

2019-06-03 Thread Julie Rattray
Hi, I have a 2018 model and no boot chime I really missed it in many ways and have wondered why the removed it > On 3 Jun 2019, at 18:48, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > wrote: > > Hi, > > The MBP models no longer have the Boot Chime. I have

Re: new mac books

2019-06-03 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, The MBP models no longer have the Boot Chime. I have the 2017 model and it does not have the Boot Chime. I'm pretty sure that all the new release models no longer have the Boot Chime. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Jamf Certified Associate

Re: new mac books

2019-06-03 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
I'm also interested in this question and wondering whether the 2017 models still have the boot chime? Janina Simon Fogarty writes: > Hi Listers, > > It's looking like I'm going to have to replace my mid 2013 11" MacBookAir, > > Currently the closest replacement would be the still currently

Re: new mac books

2019-06-03 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Sent: Monday, 3 June 2019 2:25 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: new mac books Hi, I've not heard of such a thing and I really doubt that it will ever be an option. They may design a new non-butterfly option at some point, bu

RE: new mac books

2019-06-02 Thread Simon Fogarty
MBA with the older and nicer keyboard style, Although the Pro is a nice machines. From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries Sent: Monday, 3 June 2019 2:25 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: new mac books Hi, I've not heard of such a thing and I really doubt that it will ever

Re: new mac books

2019-06-02 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
. The conclusion: they all have benefits and shortcomings. Choose the trade-offs that best suit your situation and purchase accordingly. From: Macvisionaries Reply-To: Macvisionaries Date: Sunday, June 2, 2019 at 10:25 To: Macvisionaries Subject: Re: new mac books Hi, I've not heard

Re: new mac books

2019-06-02 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, I've not heard of such a thing and I really doubt that it will ever be an option. They may design a new non-butterfly option at some point, but I believe, from history, that once they move forward with something like the new design, you're out of luck with them going back. Later... Tim